Have at it.
Methinks this thread should be placed in The Diner because it obviously has no remotely serious purpose......
Quote from: kyjo on October 09, 2013, 11:11:53 AM
Methinks this thread should be placed in The Diner because it obviously has no remotely serious purpose......
Fine. Make it two contrabassoons.
Quote from: (poco) Sforzando on October 09, 2013, 11:27:34 AM
Fine. Make it two contrabassoons.
I was very disappointed to see this ensemble omitted from the "favorite chamber combinations" poll.
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Quote from: (poco) Sforzando on October 09, 2013, 11:27:34 AM
Fine. Make it two contrabassoons.
Still no remotely serious purpose......
Quote from: kyjo on October 09, 2013, 11:31:01 AM
Still no remotely serious purpose......
All right, I'll add a piccolo. But no more concessions. This is important stuff.
Is kyjo the only arbiter of serious?
Methinks this "frivolous" thread has an obviously and ostentatiously serious purpose, and I, for one, approve of it thoroughly.
Quote from: (poco) Sforzando on October 09, 2013, 11:52:06 AM
All right, I'll add a piccolo. But no more concessions. This is important stuff.
Two contra-bassoons and piccolo? It's starting to sound like a Stockhausen piece. :)
This is the Internet; all our purpose is remote.
Edit :: damn, a typo
I'm having a difficult time deciding on my 1/2 choice.
Quote from: TheGSMoeller on October 09, 2013, 12:00:40 PM
I'm having a difficult time deciding on my 1/2 choice.
No pressure, you can always save some works for the later rounds!
I want to know what the most common substitution for contrabassoon was in the 14th century . . . .
They had sonatas in the 14th century?
Trick question.
The answer is zero. The answer is always ZERO.
Quote from: Rinaldo on October 09, 2013, 12:03:15 PM
No pressure, you can always save some works for the later rounds!
Later rounds, or 15th-century canons. ;D
Quote from: karlhenning on October 09, 2013, 12:11:26 PM
I want to know what the most common substitution for contrabassoon was in the 14th century . . . .
I don't know, but it probably made a rackett. ;)
Quote from: some guy on October 09, 2013, 11:54:48 AM
Is kyjo the only arbiter of serious?
Methinks this "frivolous" thread has an obviously and ostentatiously serious purpose, and I, for one, approve of it thoroughly.
Indeed. I believe a point has been missed.
Quote from: jochanaan on October 09, 2013, 03:37:53 PM
I don't know, but it probably made a rackett. ;)
Only a sackbutt could make a pun like that.
Did the even timpani exist in the 14th century? Not very HIP (Historically Informed Post).
I would think that Wallace Wafflehouse's To Bacon or not to Bacon is somewhat anachronistic in this thread.
It's threads like this that remind me of the book/movie High Fidelity... :)
Quote from: some guy on October 09, 2013, 11:54:48 AM
Is kyjo the only arbiter of serious?
Kyjo is The Arbiter. Full stop.
For my first choice I'm going to go with Holmboe's Music for Birds and Frogs that I mentioned recently on another thread. Okay, so it's 6 centuries late, but IMHO 2 flutes are a good timpani equivalent, and no-one could possibly deny me that having 16 bassoons is worth at least 1 contrabassoon, so I say it's a perfect fit for this thread.
1. Holmboe, Music for Birds and Frogs
Quote from: mc ukrneal on October 10, 2013, 02:24:13 AM
Did the even timpani exist in the 14th century? Not very HIP (Historically Informed Post).
Wikipedia:
"In 1188, Cambro-Norman chronicler Gerald of Wales wrote, "Ireland uses and delights in two instruments only, the harp namely, and the tympanum."[19]
Arabic nakers, the direct ancestors of most timpani, were brought to 13th century Continental Europe by Crusaders and Saracens.[6] These drums, which were small (with a diameter of about 20–22 cm or 8–8½ in) and mounted to the player's belt, were used primarily for military ceremonies. This form of timpani remained in use until the 16th century.
In 1457, a Hungarian legation sent by King Ladislaus V carried larger timpani mounted on horseback to the court of King Charles VII in France. This variety of timpani had been used in the Middle East since the 12th century. These drums evolved together with trumpets to be the primary instruments of the cavalry. This practice continues to this day in sections of the British Army, and timpani continued to be paired with trumpets when they entered the classical orchestra."
So there.
Quote from: Brian on October 09, 2013, 03:49:38 PMOnly a sackbutt could make a pun like that.
Are you telling me that pun was viol? :laugh:
Quote from: edward on October 10, 2013, 04:50:13 AMI would think that Wallace Wafflehouse's To Bacon or not to Bacon is somewhat anachronistic in this thread.
It's official: This thread is fried. ;)
Quote from: (poco) Sforzando on October 10, 2013, 07:01:15 AM
Wikipedia:
"In 1188, Cambro-Norman chronicler Gerald of Wales wrote, "Ireland uses and delights in two instruments only, the harp namely, and the tympanum."[19]
Arabic nakers, the direct ancestors of most timpani, were brought to 13th century Continental Europe by Crusaders and Saracens.[6] These drums, which were small (with a diameter of about 20–22 cm or 8–8½ in) and mounted to the player's belt, were used primarily for military ceremonies. This form of timpani remained in use until the 16th century.
In 1457, a Hungarian legation sent by King Ladislaus V carried larger timpani mounted on horseback to the court of King Charles VII in France. This variety of timpani had been used in the Middle East since the 12th century. These drums evolved together with trumpets to be the primary instruments of the cavalry. This practice continues to this day in sections of the British Army, and timpani continued to be paired with trumpets when they entered the classical orchestra."
So there.
And as we all know, Wikipedia is the arbiter to end all arbiters. $:) :laugh:
"These drums evolved together with timpani": Now, wait just a minute, there. This was not natural selection, but GMI (genetically modified instruments).