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Title: Grammy Awards 2017-18 - rebooted
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 29, 2018, 06:28:09 AM
Hearty congratulations to the Houston Symphony on their first-ever Grammy, and for Wozzeck!
Title: Re: Grammy Awards 2017-18 - rebooted
Post by: Cato on January 29, 2018, 07:22:57 AM
Hearty congratulations to the Houston Symphony on their first-ever Grammy, and for Wozzeck!

Imagine a Grammy show where 10 minutes of Wozzeck are performed, instead of ....well you know!* ;)



*  :P
Title: Re: Grammy Awards 2017-18 - rebooted
Post by: The One on January 29, 2018, 07:28:25 AM
Two Grammies!! Must be a great recording

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Title: Re: Grammy Awards 2017-18 - rebooted
Post by: Mirror Image on January 29, 2018, 07:36:07 AM
Two Grammies!! Must be a great recording

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Surprisingly good, indeed. Honeck really is an excellent conductor and I never really paid him much attention prior to this recording. His new recording of Martinu’s The Epic of Gilgamesh is a must-buy.
Title: Re: Grammy Awards 2017-18 - rebooted
Post by: The One on January 29, 2018, 08:05:33 AM
Surprisingly good, indeed. Honeck really is an excellent conductor and I never really paid him much attention prior to this recording. His new recording of Martinu’s The Epic of Gilgamesh is a must-buy.

I don't listen to Shostakovich or Martinu. Do you think only Adagio make this worth buying?
Title: Re: Grammy Awards 2017-18 - rebooted
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 29, 2018, 08:09:15 AM
I don't listen to Shostakovich or Martinu.

I am not angry, only hurt  8)
Title: Re: Grammy Awards 2017-18 - rebooted
Post by: The One on January 29, 2018, 08:12:18 AM
Heridetary. Sorry, I've tried everything. Hopeless
Title: Re: Grammy Awards 2017-18 - rebooted
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 29, 2018, 08:29:10 AM
You've given it a try, I can ask no better.
Title: Re: Grammy Awards 2017-18 - rebooted
Post by: Mahlerian on January 29, 2018, 08:39:44 AM
Can anyone explain to me what others hear in Jennifer Higdon's music?  It sounds completely empty to me, using the rhetoric of music without the content.

Congratulations to Barbara Hannigan, though; I haven't heard her latest disc, but she has been doing fantastic work over the last few years.
Title: Re: Grammy Awards 2017-18 - rebooted
Post by: Cato on January 29, 2018, 08:58:59 AM

Can anyone explain to me what others hear in Jennifer Higdon's music?  It sounds completely empty to me, using the rhetoric of music without the content.


"It bafflers Science!"  0:)

Perhaps the committee heard....female empowerment?  ??? :o
Title: Re: Grammy Awards 2017-18 - rebooted
Post by: Baron Scarpia on January 29, 2018, 09:19:16 AM
Perhaps the committee heard....female empowerment?  ??? :o

Perhaps the committee heard music that people enjoy?
Title: Re: Grammy Awards 2017-18 - rebooted
Post by: Brian on January 29, 2018, 09:29:51 AM
Can anyone explain to me what others hear in Jennifer Higdon's music?  It sounds completely empty to me, using the rhetoric of music without the content.
I like the chamber music a lot more than the orchestral. The orchestral often has a Hollywood soft gauze glow, while the conversational push-and-pull of chamber music is something she seems to respond well to. Check out the Lark Quartet's CD on Bridge Records.
Title: Re: Grammy Awards 2017-18 - rebooted
Post by: Mahlerian on January 29, 2018, 09:59:51 AM
I like the chamber music a lot more than the orchestral. The orchestral often has a Hollywood soft gauze glow, while the conversational push-and-pull of chamber music is something she seems to respond well to. Check out the Lark Quartet's CD on Bridge Records.

https://www.youtube.com/v/8evj3Vz4IgI

I still don't hear anything besides a collection of gestures.  Where's the motivation, the throughline?  What's animating the music and driving it forwards?
Title: Re: Grammy Awards 2017-18 - rebooted
Post by: Mirror Image on January 29, 2018, 10:18:54 AM
https://www.youtube.com/v/8evj3Vz4IgI

I still don't hear anything besides a collection of gestures.  Where's the motivation, the throughline?  What's animating the music and driving it forwards?

Perhaps it’s just not for you? No need in trying to understand something that doesn’t please you. FWIW, I don’t like Higdon’s music at all. I pretty much feel the same way you do.
Title: Re: Grammy Awards 2017-18 - rebooted
Post by: Mirror Image on January 29, 2018, 10:21:56 AM
I don't listen to Shostakovich or Martinu. Do you think only Adagio make this worth buying?

It’s okay, there’s a lot of folks who don’t like either composer. If you don’t like Shostakovich’s 5th, then there’s really no need to buy the recording since Barber’s Adagio for Strings isn’t a long work. Your money is better spent on composers whose music you actually enjoy.

Edit: Honeck’s performance of Barber’s Adagio is nice enough, but I’m still not wholly convinced and haven’t been convinced with any other performance other than Thomas Schippers’ classic account. The Schippers remains my reference.
Title: Re: Grammy Awards 2017-18 - rebooted
Post by: Cato on January 29, 2018, 10:38:09 AM

Edit: Honeck’s performance of Barber’s Adagio is nice enough, but I’m still not wholly convinced and haven’t been convinced with any other performance other than Thomas Schippers’ classic account. The Schippers remains my reference.

Thomas Schippers!  Wow!  I remember hearing some of his concerts when he led the Cincinnati Symphony!

He was another victim of lung cancer: only 47 when he died!
Title: Re: Grammy Awards 2017-18 - rebooted
Post by: Mahlerian on January 29, 2018, 10:38:20 AM
Perhaps it’s just not for you? No need in trying to understand something that doesn’t please you.

On the contrary, it's all the more reason for me to wish to understand why others find it appealing.  If I discarded everything that I found unpalatable at first hearing, I would never have come to appreciate many things that I love.
Title: Re: Grammy Awards 2017-18 - rebooted
Post by: Mirror Image on January 29, 2018, 10:54:05 AM
Thomas Schippers!  Wow!  I remember hearing some of his concerts when he led the Cincinnati Symphony!

He was another victim of lung cancer: only 47 when he died!

A tragic loss for sure.
Title: Re: Grammy Awards 2017-18 - rebooted
Post by: Mirror Image on January 29, 2018, 10:55:18 AM
On the contrary, it's all the more reason for me to wish to understand why others find it appealing.  If I discarded everything that I found unpalatable at first hearing, I would never have come to appreciate many things that I love.

But how often has someone given you ample reason to check out a composer and listen with a different set of ears only for you to find yourself in the same predicament time and time again?

For me, it’s more of a personal thing and no one can really help me understand a composer whose music I just don’t connect to. No amount of convincing simply won’t work if you’re not attuned to the musical language.
Title: Re: Grammy Awards 2017-18 - rebooted
Post by: TheGSMoeller on January 29, 2018, 11:30:04 AM
Can anyone explain to me what others hear in Jennifer Higdon's music?  It sounds completely empty to me, using the rhetoric of music without the content.

Yesterday I was at the Nashville Symphony for an afternoon concert with the orchestra's strings and Nadja Salerno-Sonnenberg. Right after intermission, before they begun the second half of the program Salerno-Sonnenberg announced to the audience that N.S. had just won 2 Grammy's. Pretty cool moment.
Title: Re: Grammy Awards 2017-18 - rebooted
Post by: The One on January 29, 2018, 12:31:57 PM
It’s okay,

Yay!

but I’m still not wholly convinced and haven’t been convinced with any other performance other than Thomas Schippers’ classic account. The Schippers remains my reference.

Very thoughtful of you to give a point of reference. Try Slatkin, Thomas, Bernstein and Bernstein LAPO...not that it's not OK to have the schippers as a reference though. Thanks
Title: Re: Grammy Awards 2017-18 - rebooted
Post by: Mirror Image on January 29, 2018, 12:38:45 PM
Yay!

Very thoughtful of you to give a point of reference. Try Slatkin, Thomas, Bernstein and Bernstein LAPO...not that it's not OK to have the schippers as a reference though. Thanks

Oh, I know Bernstein (both accounts), Alsop, and several others, but, as I said, Schippers is my favorite and, for me, the most impassioned reading of this work I know.
Title: Re: Grammy Awards 2017-18 - rebooted
Post by: The One on January 29, 2018, 12:41:20 PM
Oh, I know Bernstein (both accounts), Alsop, and several others, but, as I said, Schippers is my favorite and, for me, the most impassioned reading of this work I know.

What about Agnus Dei? Have you found your Agnus Dei?
Title: Re: Grammy Awards 2017-18 - rebooted
Post by: Mirror Image on January 29, 2018, 12:47:50 PM
What about Agnus Dei? Have you found your Agnus Dei?

No, but I’m not too worried about it since it’s just a rearrangement of Adagio for Strings. To be honest, while I do love the Adagio, it’s not one of my favorite Barber works and, for me, the popularity of the work does little justice to the other music he wrote.
Title: Re: Grammy Awards 2017-18 - rebooted
Post by: Cato on January 29, 2018, 01:18:34 PM
Perhaps the committee heard music that people enjoy?

Das versteht sich!  0:)

What about Agnus Dei? Have you found your Agnus Dei?

I can recommend this one:



Title: Re: Grammy Awards 2017-18 - rebooted
Post by: The One on January 29, 2018, 03:00:49 PM
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Title: Re: Grammy Awards 2017-18 - rebooted
Post by: ShineyMcShineShine on February 08, 2018, 03:13:15 AM
https://youtu.be/Tf9V0hwJ6qk