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Title: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on March 05, 2008, 08:14:50 AM
Every now and again I find a fun news story that doesn't merit its own thread. Perhaps we could collect a few here?

Con artists use fake $100 to rip off Girl Scouts (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23244309/)

Court Finds Model Innocent Based on Breast Size (http://www.weirdasianews.com/2008/03/04/court-finds-model-innocent-based-on-breast-size/)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: BachQ on March 05, 2008, 08:37:34 AM
Con artists use fake $100 to rip off Girl Scouts

"The [counterfeit $100] exchange eradicated the Scouts' earnings that day."   :'(
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: SonicMan46 on March 05, 2008, 03:57:00 PM
Every now and again I find a fun news story that doesn't merit its own thread. Perhaps we could collect a few here?

Court Finds Model Innocent Based on Breast Size (http://www.weirdasianews.com/2008/03/04/court-finds-model-innocent-based-on-breast-size/)

Lethe - LOL on the story above -  ;D  Maybe her 'prominent attributes' are deflatable?  ;) :D

(http://www.weirdasianews.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/serena_kozakura-01.JPG)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lady Chatterley on March 05, 2008, 06:59:10 PM
Lethe - LOL on the story above -  ;D  Maybe her 'prominent attributes' are deflatable?  ;) :D

(http://www.weirdasianews.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/serena_kozakura-01.JPG)

 Where's the hatpin!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: BachQ on March 07, 2008, 10:22:13 AM
Minnesota Bars Beat Smoking Ban
By GREGG AAMOT – 22 hours ago

MAPLEWOOD, Minn. (AP) — All the world's a stage at some of Minnesota's bars. A new state ban on smoking in restaurants and other nightspots contains an exception for performers in theatrical productions. So some bars are getting around the ban by printing up playbills, encouraging customers to come in costume, and pronouncing them "actors."  The customers are playing right along, merrily puffing away — and sometimes speaking in funny accents and doing a little improvisation, too.

At The Rock, a hard-rock and heavy-metal bar in suburban St. Paul, the "actors" during "theater night" do little more than sit around, drink, smoke and listen to the earsplitting music.   The smoking ban, passed by the Legislature last year, allows actors to light up in character during theatrical performances as long as patrons are notified in advance. About 30 bars in Minnesota have been exploiting the loophole by staging the faux theater productions and pronouncing cigarettes props, according to an anti-smoking group.

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: BachQ on March 12, 2008, 01:32:32 PM

Student suspended for buying Skittles at school


NEW HAVEN, Connecticut (AP) -- Contraband candy has led to big trouble for an eighth-grade honors student in Connecticut.  Michael Sheridan was stripped of his title as class vice president, barred from attending an honors student dinner and suspended for a day after buying a bag of Skittles from a classmate. School spokeswoman Catherine Sullivan-DeCarlo says the New Haven school system banned candy sales in 2003 as part of a districtwide school wellness policy.  Michael's suspension has been reduced from three days to one, but he has not been reinstated as class vice president.  He says he didn't realize his candy purchase was against the rules -- although he did notice the student selling the Skittles on February 26 was being secretive.
 (http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/03/12/skittles.suspension.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on March 13, 2008, 04:04:25 AM
I wonder if the seller was working for the teachers undercover ???
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: BachQ on March 18, 2008, 08:30:45 AM

Tampa sued to collect on 147-year-old promissory note worth millions

(http://www.tampabay.com/multimedia/archive/00014/b4s_oldloan031708_14313c.jpeg)

TAMPA — In the early months of the Civil War, the city of Tampa needed ammunition and other supplies to defend against attack but apparently was short on cash.  So it issued a promissory note for $299.58 to storekeeper Thomas Pugh Kennedy on June 21, 1861.  Kennedy's great-granddaughter says the city never made good on its loan. Now, Joan Kennedy Biddle and her family are suing to collect the payment plus 8 percent annual interest.

The total bill: $22.7-million.

"Obviously we came at a bad time because the city seems like they're trying to cut their budget," she said. "On the other hand, they're building the Riverwalk."  Attorney James Purdy filed the suit in the Hillsborough Circuit Court last week. He did not return calls for comment.   Biddle wouldn't give specifics on why she decided to sue now, using as evidence a piece of paper that has been handed down as an heirloom for generations.  "This thing has been in the family since the date on the note, and it has never been repaid," said Biddle, 77. "My daddy told me, and I certainly believe him."

Tampa City Attorney David Smith said he doesn't consider the claim valid. In legal documents, Biddle's attorney argues that the statute of limitations doesn't apply in the case because at the time the note was issued, the state had no such statute on such documents. And Biddle pointed out that in the 1990s the federal government agreed to pay the Seminole tribe for land illegally taken in the 1820s.

But attorney John Grandoff said the city can defend against the case using the "doctrine of laches," which prevents claims from being made after an extraordinary passage of time. "It's kind of how the court feels about whether it's been too long or not," Grandoff said. "It's total discretion on the judge's part."
Rodney Kite-Powell, curator at the Tampa Bay History Center, noted that the Tampa of 1861 is not the same city that exists today — literally.

Tampa was originally incorporated in 1855, but was abolished in 1869 in part because residents had no money to pay taxes, and the city had no money to pay its bills, Kite-Powell said. It was reincorporated in 1887. At the time the note was issued, Tampa was a tiny town with about 800 residents, city limits that included just a portion of downtown. It also was home to Fort Brooke, where local Confederate soldiers were stationed.

Biddle's great-grandfather, Thomas Pugh Kennedy, was one of the city's most significant pioneers, Kite-Powell said. He operated a store with business partner John Darling. "Merchants are always important because they're the way people get stuff — from cannons to clothing and food," he said. "People really relied on these early merchants to supply people with what they needed."  Joan Kennedy Biddle grew up on Davis Islands and attended Plant High School. She moved to east Hillsborough in the 1960s and ran a lumber business with her late husband. She now owns a three-bedroom home in Brandon.  Biddle said she's known about the note since she was a little girl. "I showed it to the attorney, and he said it looked very interesting," she said. "It's strange that the thing has never been collected."

(http://www.tampabay.com/news/localgovernment/article419897.ece)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: pjme on March 18, 2008, 12:04:12 PM
Belgium has a government.  ;D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: BorisG on March 18, 2008, 01:17:36 PM
McCain, Clinton, Obama. God bless us all.  0:)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: XB-70 Valkyrie on March 18, 2008, 09:29:33 PM
I think anything that happens in Canada qualifies.

Here, knock youself out: http://www.cbc.ca/bc/
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: BachQ on March 21, 2008, 02:55:06 AM


Starbucks ordered to pay $100M in tips

SAN DIEGO (AP) -- A Superior Court judge on Thursday ordered Starbucks to pay its California baristas more than $100 million in back tips and interest that the coffee chain paid to shift supervisors.  San Diego Superior Court Judge Patricia Cowett also issued an injunction that prevents Starbucks' shift supervisors from sharing in future tips, saying state law prohibits managers and supervisors from sharing in employee gratuities.

Starbucks spokeswoman Valerie O'Neil said the company planned an immediate appeal of the ruling, calling it "fundamentally unfair and beyond all common sense and reason."  The lawsuit was filed in October 2004 by Jou Chou, a former Starbucks barista in La Jolla, who complained shift supervisors were sharing in employee tips.  The lawsuit gained ground in 2006 when it was granted class-action status, allowing the suit to go forward for as many as 100,000 former and current baristas in the coffee chain's California stores.  It was not immediately clear how many current and former employees are affected by the ruling.

"I feel vindicated," Chou said in a written statement released by attorneys. "Tips really help those receiving the lowest wages. I think Starbucks should pay shift supervisors higher wages instead of taking money from the tip pool."  California is Starbucks' largest U.S. market, with 2,460 stores as of January 8, the latest count available. The Seattle-based company has more than 11,000 stores nationwide.  Starbucks employs more than 135,000 baristas in the U.S. The company did not immediately respond to a request for a head count in California.

The judgment comes as Starbucks is struggling to revive its U.S. business, where store traffic has slipped amid a sagging economy, rising energy and dairy costs, and growing competition from cheaper rivals.  The company's stock has slid more than 50 percent since late 2006, when it was trading close to $40 a share. Starbucks shares rose 3 cents to $17.53 Thursday.  Starbucks earned more than $672 million on revenue of $9.4 billion during its 2007 fiscal year, which ended Sept. 30. 

The judge ordered Starbucks to pay $87 million in back tips, plus interest of $19 million, bringing the total judgment to about $106 million.  The company said it planned to ask the court to stay the ruling while the appeal is pending.  "The decision today, in our view, represents an extreme example of an abuse of the class-action procedures in California's courts," O'Neil said.

The coffee company also took issue with the brevity of the judge's ruling, which was only four paragraphs, saying she failed to address the unfairness to shift supervisors.  "This case was filed by a single former barista and, despite Starbucks request, the interests of the shift supervisors were not represented in litigation," O'Neil said.

But attorney Laura Ho, who tried the baristas case, said the court's verdict follows state law.  "Starbucks illegally took a huge amount of money from the tip pool to pay shift supervisors, rather than paying them out of its own pocket. The court's verdict rightfully restores that money to the baristas," Ho said.
(http://www.cnn.com/2008/BUSINESS/03/20/us.starbucks.ap/index.html)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Benny on March 21, 2008, 06:08:21 AM
A woman in Boulder was fined $1000 for having a pink poodle.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Benny on March 21, 2008, 06:16:51 AM
Cat woman's daughter named to mediate disputes between Israel and Arab countries:
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Berry names daughter
Updated: 11:18, Friday March 21, 2008
Halle Berry has proudly announced that her new baby daughter is called Nahla Ariela Aubry.

Maybe no name would have been better after all.

But regardless of her name, the little one sure has good DNA.

She is the first child of 41 year old Berry and model Gabriel Aubry - enough said.

The couple met while shooting a Versace commercial in Los Angeles two years ago. Berry has said she and Aubry do not plan to marry, but feel fully committed to each other.

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Sergeant Rock on March 21, 2008, 08:29:40 AM
US BORDER PATROL REFUSES ENTRY TO FLAMBOYANT BRITISH AUTHOR

"I was dressed flamboyantly -- top hat, long velvet coat, gloves," Horsley said. "My one concession to American sensibilities was to remove my nail polish. I thought that would get me through."

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/books/03/21/author.deported.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: BachQ on March 21, 2008, 11:20:57 AM
US BORDER PATROL REFUSES ENTRY TO FLAMBOYANT BRITISH AUTHOR

"I was dressed flamboyantly -- top hat, long velvet coat, gloves," Horsley said. "My one concession to American sensibilities was to remove my nail polish. I thought that would get me through."

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/books/03/21/author.deported.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

"We know you're a heroin addict, we know you're a crack addict, we know you're involved in prostitution."
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ephemerid on March 21, 2008, 11:44:12 AM
"We know you're a heroin addict, we know you're a crack addict, we know you're involved in prostitution."

'...being denied entry on grounds of "moral turpitude."' ?? ::)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: BachQ on March 22, 2008, 03:17:33 AM
 
Marijuana Grower Busted by Cops After Reporting Pot Plant Stolen
Friday , March 21, 2008

SYDNEY, Australia  —

An Australian man's complaint of an break-in at his home went to pot Friday when police arrested him for growing marijuana.  The 35-year-old man in the central Australian city of Adelaide called police to report that six men had broken into his house through a window and stolen parts of his cannabis plants, South Australia Police said.  Police were unable to find the intruders but brought a drug warrant to search the home, where they found six large cannabis plants growing in two bedrooms, police said in a statement.  The man was charged with cultivating cannabis for sale.

"Members of the public are reminded that the growing of cannabis is not only illegal but can also attract other criminal activity such home break-ins and assaults," the statement said.
(http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,340389,00.html)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: BachQ on March 22, 2008, 03:20:43 AM
Line Rage’ at Disney Could Land Woman in Jail for 15 Years
ORANGE COUNTY, Florida. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) --

It's supposed to be the happiest place on earth. But one woman says her experience at Disney World was anything but.  Aimee Krause claims Victoria Walker cut in line last year then beat her up when Krause called her out.  Now it seems the alleged "line rage" could send Walker to jail for 15 years.  The incident happened in May of 2007, but because the victim is now suffering serious after affects prosecutors are going forward with the case. New charges have also been added because Krause claims her children were also attacked.  Court documents say Walker beat Krause because Krause supposedly skipped Walker in the Mad Tea Cup ride line.  “She came from behind just screaming,” Krause said this week. “Next thing I knew she kicked me in my left leg, threw me to the ground and at that point I was pinned between the teacup and the saucer and she continued to beat up on my body.”
(http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=6090222&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on March 22, 2008, 04:38:56 AM
"They knew more about me than I did," Horsley said Thursday in an interview from his London home. "They said, 'We know you're a heroin addict, we know you're a crack addict, we know you're involved in prostitution.' "

So why did it take eight hours of interviewing then for them to make up their minds? Was this about being fair minded I wonder?

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ephemerid on March 22, 2008, 05:18:58 AM
"They knew more about me than I did," Horsley said Thursday in an interview from his London home. "They said, 'We know you're a heroin addict, we know you're a crack addict, we know you're involved in prostitution.' "

So why did it take eight hours of interviewing then for them to make up their minds? Was this about being fair minded I wonder?

Mike

He should be thankful they didn't ship him off to Syria to be beaten with steel cables like poor Canadian Maher Arar...  >:(  >:(  >:(

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maher_Arar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maher_Arar)

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ephemerid on March 25, 2008, 01:19:23 PM
YEE HAW.  What a genius...  ::)

http://www.kctv5.com/news/15698864/detail.html

Man Shooting Hole Through Wall Kills Wife
Deepwater Man Fatally Shoots Wife While Installing Satellite TV

POSTED: 6:25 am CDT March 25, 2008
UPDATED: 2:56 pm CDT March 25, 2008

DEEPWATER, Mo. -- Officials are trying to decide whether to file charges against a Missouri man who fatally shot his wife while trying to install a satellite TV system in their home.

Patsy Long, 34, of Deepwater, died after being shot in the chest with a .22-caliber handgun on Saturday. Her husband, Ronald Long, fired the shot from the inside of their home after several unsuccessful efforts to punch a hole through the exterior wall using other means.

Henry County sheriff's deputies said the woman was hit by the second of two shots fired by her husband.

Long was given CPR by neighbors and family until medics arrived, police said. She was transported by air ambulance, but was pronounced dead at the hospital just after 6 p.m.

Sheriff's department spokesman Maj. Robert Hills said a person involved in such a case normally would be charged with manslaughter, but that was up to the prosecutor.

"Once we complete a diagram of the incident, we will be submitting everything to the prosecuting attorney and let him decide if he wants to press criminal charges," Hills said.

On Tuesday morning, Henry County Prosecuting Attorney Richard M. Shields said he has yet to receive the case from the sheriff's department.

Henry County Coroner Scott Largent declined to release details about Patsy Long's death until the sheriff's department completes its investigation.

Neighbor Mark Lassince said he believed it was a tragic accident.

He was taking a shower when the woman’s son knocked on his door and told him that his mother had been shot. Lassince went to try to help, but Patsy Long was already dead, he said.

Lassince described Patsy Long as a good person who always took care of her family.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Sergeant Rock on March 25, 2008, 01:27:24 PM
So why did it take eight hours of interviewing then for them to make up their minds? Was this about being fair minded I wonder?
Mike

Sometimes...well, quite often actually...my country embarrasses me. Land of the free...right... ::)

Sarge
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on March 25, 2008, 01:31:38 PM
I know....both our counteries are quietly eroding freedoms. Soon it is to be fingerprinting everyone at the new part of Heathrow Airport; this, so people can circulate round the shops and not be able to swop tickets with one another to board the wrong plane to blow it up.....what are the photos in passports for I wonder?

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: BachQ on March 27, 2008, 12:05:54 PM
Rare newt delays repairs to flooded house

Published: March 27, 2008 at 3:58 PM

DAUNTSEY, England, March 27 (UPI) -- A retired couple has been barred from repairing their flood-damaged house in the English countryside because a rare newt may have set up housekeeping.  :-*

That means Margie and John Histed may have to stay in a trailer on their property in Wiltshire for months, The Daily Mail reported.

The great crested newt may be living in a blocked drainage ditch that flooded the house last year and overflowed again last week. The Histeds were told that they cannot unblock the ditch until it is searched for newts -- even though a healthy newt population is living in a nearby pond, the newspaper said.

"It's not that we're not sympathetic towards wildlife -- in fact, we're very keen on it and understand the need to protect certain species," John Histed said. "But it seems ridiculous that we can't protect our property from more flood damage for many months because newts may be there."  :-*  :-*  :-*

The newt search cannot start until the breeding season ends in June.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: MN Dave on March 27, 2008, 12:07:31 PM
She turned me into a newt!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on March 27, 2008, 12:10:17 PM
Glad you're finding the thread useful Dm - that newt story is hilarious ;D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: BachQ on March 28, 2008, 02:27:19 PM
 Ohio man facing charges for having sex with a picnic table
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(BELLEVUE, OH) -- Police say a man in Bellevue, Ohio was caught on tape having sex with a picnic table.

Bellevue Police Captain Matt Johnson says Art Price, Jr., 40, was seen on four occasions between the hours of 10:30 a.m. and noon having sex with his picnic table. What makes this a felony, Johnson says, is that it took place in close proximity to a school, which made it likely that children could have seen Price. 

The neighbor -- who wishes to remain anonymous -- saw Price walk out onto his deck, stand a round metal table on its side and use the hole in the umbrella to have sex.  The most recent instance took place March 14, we're told. A neighbor videotaped Price.  "The first video we had, he was completely nude.   He would use the hole from the umbrella and have sex with the table," Johnson says.  Police say Price admitted to the crimes -- four charges of public indecency. Usually these sorts of things are misdemeanors, but in this case, they are felonies.

Price is married with three school-aged children. Neighbors tell us they're now worried about the kids. This case has police in this small town shaking their heads. "Once you think you've seen it all, something else comes around," Johnson says.

 (http://www.fox19.com/Global/story.asp?S=8083860&nav=menu63_2)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ephemerid on March 28, 2008, 02:33:15 PM
Ohio man facing charges for having sex with a picnic table
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(BELLEVUE, OH) -- Police say a man in Bellevue, Ohio was caught on tape having sex with a picnic table.

Bellevue Police Captain Matt Johnson says Art Price, Jr., 40, was seen on four occasions between the hours of 10:30 a.m. and noon having sex with his picnic table. What makes this a felony, Johnson says, is that it took place in close proximity to a school, which made it likely that children could have seen Price. 

The neighbor -- who wishes to remain anonymous -- saw Price walk out onto his deck, stand a round metal table on its side and use the hole in the umbrella to have sex.  The most recent instance took place March 14, we're told. A neighbor videotaped Price.  "The first video we had, he was completely nude.   He would use the hole from the umbrella and have sex with the table," Johnson says.  Police say Price admitted to the crimes -- four charges of public indecency. Usually these sorts of things are misdemeanors, but in this case, they are felonies.

Price is married with three school-aged children. Neighbors tell us they're now worried about the kids. This case has police in this small town shaking their heads. "Once you think you've seen it all, something else comes around," Johnson says.


 (http://www.fox19.com/Global/story.asp?S=8083860&nav=menu63_2)

Dude, you can buy sex toys on the internet!  Its gotta feel better than ramming yourself into a hole in a picnic table.  Owch! 
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on March 28, 2008, 02:39:35 PM
Ohio man facing charges for having sex with a picnic table
(http://wxix.images.worldnow.com/images/8083860_BG1.jpg)

(BELLEVUE, OH) -- Police say a man in Bellevue, Ohio was caught on tape having sex with a picnic table.

Bellevue Police Captain Matt Johnson says Art Price, Jr., 40, was seen on four occasions between the hours of 10:30 a.m. and noon having sex with his picnic table. What makes this a felony, Johnson says, is that it took place in close proximity to a school, which made it likely that children could have seen Price. 

The neighbor -- who wishes to remain anonymous -- saw Price walk out onto his deck, stand a round metal table on its side and use the hole in the umbrella to have sex.  The most recent instance took place March 14, we're told. A neighbor videotaped Price.  "The first video we had, he was completely nude.   He would use the hole from the umbrella and have sex with the table," Johnson says.  Police say Price admitted to the crimes -- four charges of public indecency. Usually these sorts of things are misdemeanors, but in this case, they are felonies.

Price is married with three school-aged children. Neighbors tell us they're now worried about the kids. This case has police in this small town shaking their heads. "Once you think you've seen it all, something else comes around," Johnson says.


 (http://www.fox19.com/Global/story.asp?S=8083860&nav=menu63_2)

In related news...

Man who had sex with bicycle sentenced (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/11/14/nbikesex114.xml)

Worker caught having sex with Henry Hoover (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/03/nhoover103.xml)

Man 'attempted sex with fence' in London park (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/11/21/nfence121.xml)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ephemerid on March 28, 2008, 02:44:46 PM
In related news...

Man who had sex with bicycle sentenced (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/11/14/nbikesex114.xml)

Worker caught having sex with Henry Hoover (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/03/nhoover103.xml)

Man 'attempted sex with fence' in London park (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/11/21/nfence121.xml)

*gasp!* this is that slippery slope people said would happen with teh evil gay marriage!! :o

 ::)

But seriously, there are some weird people out there.  If you're gonna do weird kinky* things like that, please, keep it indoors & private!

* "kinky" really isn't quite the right word here... LOL
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on March 28, 2008, 02:50:23 PM
The interesting thing I find with stories like these is that ones involving females are almost non-existent, despite the anatomy obviously making sex with inanimate objects easier. Sure males have Beethoven on their side, but for every one of those, you get inundated by exhibitionistic bike shaggers (http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/742/awwwwwpg5.gif)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: BachQ on March 29, 2008, 12:20:17 PM
Man Held On $1M Bond For $21 1990 Theft

CINCINNATI, Mar. 28, 2008
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(AP) A man arrested in Cincinnati on a charge of disorderly conduct remained in custody Friday because a judge refused to reduce a $1 million bond that was imposed on a charge he stole $21 in products nearly 18 years ago.

Gary Weaver, 41, of Owingsville, Ky., was arrested Wednesday, and court officials found out that there was a warrant for him from 1990.

A judge dealt with the disorderly conduct charge on Thursday by sentencing Weaver to the one night he already had spent in jail. But he refused to reduce the original bond, which was imposed after Weaver allegedly used fake rolls of dimes to pay a store for a $21.64 purchase.

The store found that the coin rolls were filled with pennies, with dimes on each end. The crime was elevated to a felony because Weaver had a prior theft conviction, an assistant prosecutor said.

Hamilton County Municipal Court Judge Richard Bernat refused to lower the $1 million bond that was set on the theft charge from 1990.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on March 29, 2008, 12:24:19 PM
*gasp!* this is that slippery slope people said would happen with teh evil gay marriage!! :o

 ::)

But seriously, there are some weird people out there.  If you're gonna do weird kinky* things like that, please, keep it indoors & private!

* "kinky" really isn't quite the right word here... LOL

Man-with-bike was in his own room. He was disturbed by two cleaners who ought to have apologised and left him to it. I don't imagine the bike was going to bring any charges.

Man-with-table is in a different league. Out where he was filmed. Some people do not have the sense they were born with.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: BachQ on March 29, 2008, 12:34:10 PM
Man-with-table is in a different league. Out where he was filmed.

SOLUTION: Bring picnic table inside house ........ lock doors and close drapes ........

ADD'L PROBLEM: Husband must have excuse when wife asks "Honey, why is the picnic table inside of our house"
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on March 29, 2008, 12:36:02 PM
Oh...I was just buffing it up dear.

Mike

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Benny on March 30, 2008, 06:35:55 AM
'Bum Bot' patrols Atlanta neighborhood


Published: March 28, 2008 at 6:11 PM
Print story Email to a friend Font size:ATLANTA, March 28 (UPI) -- An Atlanta bar owner said his "Bum Bot," a robot he created to chase drug dealers and prostitutes out of his neighborhood, is successful in scaring criminals.

Rufus Terrill said he regularly sends the remote-controlled Bum Bot -- which he created from a Cajun meat cooker, a mechanical scooter, a walkie-talkie wired to a home-alarm speaker, an infrared camera, a spotlight and a homemade water cannon -- out to patrol the neighborhood around his bar after dark, the Los Angeles Times reported Friday.

He said drug dealers and prostitutes encountered by his creation are confronted with a warning that if they don't immediately leave the area, they will be blasted by the water cannon.

"It scares the bejesus out of 'em," Terrill said.

However, Anita Beaty, executive director of the non-profit Metro Atlanta Task Force for the Homeless, said the robot, which frequently targets people surrounding a homeless shelter nearby the bar, hinders more than it helps.

"Not everybody outside our building is a drug dealer, and when they are, we want them arrested as much as (Terrill). A robot is not the way to solve anything," she said.

(http://www.geeksaresexy.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/2260-0032a.jpg)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on March 30, 2008, 06:38:47 AM
Man, if that thing tried to mess with me I'd rip out all those exposed wires :D I guess some people have an irrational fear of being wet :P
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on March 30, 2008, 08:15:30 AM
As the machine does not seem to have a water tank; it is unlikely that it can carry out the threat. I assume this 'inventor' is one of the redundant Star Wars System scientists.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on March 30, 2008, 08:28:09 AM
I tried to copy the following fascinating item from my local paper The Stroud News and Journal, 26th March 08. However, it is not available on-line.

So here it a typed up copy......

"Annette Emms of the Stroud branch of the Embroiderers Guild will be giving a talk entitled 'How would you like to make a pair of fairy shoes?' on Friday at Whitminster Village Hall. It will be about her fascination with all things magical and on Saturday she will demonstrate how to make her delicate 'fairy shoes' in a workshop starting at 10am."

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A friend of ours who has a daughter at university in Devon told us that the daughter has a new boyfriend. He is the leader of a group of about 60 people who dress up as elves and fairies and spend weekends living out fantasy scenarios, camping.....and so on. Sometimes for the entire weekend they stay in character, otherwise they, remaining in costume, revert to being themselves for a BBQ.

Initially I thought she said 'Furry' rather than 'Fairy' as I know that in the US they have conventions of people dressed as creatures. But this Fairy one was news to me. Seemingly 60 or so is a smallish troop, some have 200 in them. These larger ones tend to go in for mock fighting. There are also some who dress as Vikings and enact 'mock rape and pillage'.

Mike

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on March 30, 2008, 08:28:36 AM
I wonder if they used a fake image because they couldn't find a picture of his robot? The one they supply looks identical to the robot from the Short Circuit film:

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=%22short+circuit%22&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on March 30, 2008, 08:30:34 AM
A friend of ours who has a daughter at university in Devon told us that the daughter has a new boyfriend. He is the leader of a group of about 60 people who dress up as elves and fairies and spend weekends living out fantasy scenarios, camping.....and so on. Sometimes for the entire weekend they stay in character, otherwise they, remaining in costume, revert to being themselves for a BBQ.

Initially I thought she said 'Furry' rather than 'Fairy' as I know that in the US they have conventions of people dressed as creatures. But this Fairy one was news to me. Seemingly 60 or so is a smallish troop, some have 200 in them. These larger ones tend to go in for mock fighting. There are also some who dress as Vikings and enact 'mock rape and pillage'.

OMG LARPERS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_action_role-playing_game)? A rare breed indeed :)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on March 30, 2008, 08:32:18 AM
Lethe, I see....it would appear the publication has been less than fully honest with us. Outraged of Stroud will have to wing a letter of complaint. Presumably the real one is the size of a petrol tanker with the concometent capacity to soak.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: BachQ on March 30, 2008, 08:32:42 AM
There are also some who dress as Vikings and enact 'mock rape and pillage'.


How do I join this organization?  I want to sign up ...........
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: drogulus on March 30, 2008, 08:34:55 AM
I know....both our counteries are quietly eroding freedoms. Soon it is to be fingerprinting everyone at the new part of Heathrow Airport; this, so people can circulate round the shops and not be able to swop tickets with one another to board the wrong plane to blow it up.....what are the photos in passports for I wonder?

Mike

    Are we supposed to blame ourselves for restricting freedoms because people want to blow up planes? Isn't this typical liberal narcissism, making everything in the galaxy our fault?

     We're such baad people for wanting to protect ourselves.

     As for that shit who was stopped at the border, think about this: Isn't it more or less part of the drill that you do things that make you unwelcome and then say you've been abused? And as far as taking 8 hours to make a decision, they were probably trying to think of a way to let him in so we wouldn't have this kind of story. But that's OK, you're thinking just what you're supposed to think. Oppression at the border: we aren't letting people in, what's wrong with us?  ::)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on March 30, 2008, 08:35:11 AM
Lethe, I see....it would appear the publication has been less than fully honest with us. Outraged of Stroud will have to wing a letter of complaint. Presumably the real one is the size of a petrol tanker with the concometent capacity to soak.

I feel like my trust has been betrayed... I will never believe another news story again :'(
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on March 30, 2008, 08:39:18 AM
OMG LARPERS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_action_role-playing_game)? A rare breed indeed :)

Thank you for that link.....I would not aim to offend anyone here who is into it, but it does seem a bit barking. But if they enjoy it...well.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on March 30, 2008, 08:44:36 AM
    Are we supposed to blame ourselves for restricting freedoms because people want to blow up planes? Isn't this typical liberal narcissism, making everything in the galaxy our fault?

     We're such baad people for wanting to protect ourselves.

     As for that shit who was stopped at the border, think about this: Isn't it more or less part of the drill that you do things that make you unwelcome and then say you've been abused? And as far as taking 8 hours to make a decision, they were probably trying to think of a way to let him in so we wouldn't have this kind of story. But that's OK, you're thinking just what you're supposed to think. Oppression at the border: we aren't letting people in, what's wrong with us?  ::)

If by any chance you are addressing me and imagine you can intuit my attitudes as being those you have outlined; then as so often, you are right off beam.

I am not about to go into this with you. But basically there is plenty of evidence that the petty restrictions being placed on us and that consume time, often have no proven effect of preventing any outrage. So take your comments and place them carefully in that dark place you ought to place your insulting and highly personalised comments on religion.

This is basically supposed to be a fun thread, not an opportunity to insult posters and wrestle them into the ground.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on March 30, 2008, 08:45:48 AM
How do I join this organization?  I want to sign up ...........

Care to disclose which end of the pillaging you want to join? If only you lived near to Devon!

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: BachQ on March 30, 2008, 08:55:28 AM
Care to disclose which end of the pillaging you want to join? If only you lived near to Devon!

Mike

I'll begin with the raping team ....... and see how that works out .........
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on March 30, 2008, 09:00:24 AM
I'll begin with the raping team ....... and see how that works out .........

I would have thought that ultimately, it would prove to be something of a frustration...and just as well.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Benny on March 30, 2008, 09:23:06 AM
I wonder if they used a fake image because they couldn't find a picture of his robot? The one they supply looks identical to the robot from the Short Circuit film:

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=%22short+circuit%22&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

Could be a fake photo. It's clearly tied to the Atlanta story on this web site:
http://www.capitolvalley.net/cgi-bin/mt/mt-search.cgi?tag=Japan&IncludeBlogs=1
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Gurn Blanston on March 30, 2008, 09:33:37 AM
Could be a fake photo. It's clearly tied to the Atlanta story on this web site:
http://www.capitolvalley.net/cgi-bin/mt/mt-search.cgi?tag=Japan&IncludeBlogs=1

The story states that the robot is made essentially from a Louisiana Cajun Cooker, of which this is a typical example:

(http://www.barbecueandbeans.com/Weber%20Smoker%20Mountain%20Cooker.JPG)

So, there is no doubt at all that this media monster has attempted to deceive the unwary. Bloody newspapers! >:(

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Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on March 30, 2008, 09:37:17 AM
I'm shocked and apalled... somebody must be held to account for this abuse of media ethics...
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on March 30, 2008, 09:48:05 AM
I do hope this bruhaha will not overshadow my unimportant fairy shoes story!

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Gurn Blanston on March 30, 2008, 09:54:42 AM
I'm shocked and apalled... somebody must be held to account for this abuse of media ethics...

Dear Editor,
I am writing to say that I am shocked and appalled at the callus abuse of the public trust presented in your edition of Sunday last. The use of a photo obviously taken from an Internet archive of an Hollywood robot, and placing it in your story about the Atlanta robot where it is obviously intended to portray said Atlanta robot is a clearly fraudulent attempt to deceive the public. I shall see to it that it is YOUR effigy that is hung on Guy Fawkes Day in our village, you Media Satan!

Brig. General (ret.) Chauncey Harold Farquhart (Mrs.)


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Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: BachQ on March 30, 2008, 10:05:45 AM
The story states that the robot is made essentially from a Louisiana Cajun Cooker, of which this is a typical example:

(http://www.barbecueandbeans.com/Weber%20Smoker%20Mountain%20Cooker.JPG)

Interesting.  It just so happens that all of my prototype robots are also based on the Louisiana Cajun Cooker .......

Such a coincidence.......
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Gurn Blanston on March 30, 2008, 10:08:18 AM
Interesting.  It just so happens that all of my prototype robots are also based on the Louisiana Cajun Cooker .......

Such a coincidence.......

Yeah, but do you have paulb with a water pistol inside yours? If so, you can make the World Review and Picayune too. :D

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Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on March 30, 2008, 10:15:47 AM

Brig. General (ret.) Chauncey Harold Farquhart (Mrs.)[/i]



There is indeed some rough business transacted at the old baptismal font. Only today, my neice had her daughter named 'Tiana'.
Neither one thing nor the other; it sounds to me like the try-out name for a new alcho-pop, perhaps based on Tia Maria.

The baby's name is pronounced Teeeana, with two very flat 'a's.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: BachQ on March 31, 2008, 08:02:19 AM
Child Genius at Oxford Becomes Prostitute
Monday , March 31, 2008

A child prodigy with a talent in mathematics that won her a spot at Oxford at the age of 13 somehow found her way into prostitution.  Sufiah Yusof, who calls herself Shilpa Lee, advertises her body on an Internet sex site, charging 130 pounds an hour or $258.  Yusof and two siblings won university places in their teens but she ran away at age 15 with claims of pressure from her parents.  "It is all desperately heartbreaking," a friend of Yusof said. "With her amazing brain she should be able to make money any way she wants. But instead, her life spiraled completely out of control."  Yusof describes herself as a "sexy, smart student" who prefers "older gentlemen" and offers services every day from 11 a.m. to 8 p.m. Yusof claims her father was "controlling and bullying," which led her to ending the relationship with her family.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on April 01, 2008, 09:38:35 PM
11 Students Plotted To Kill Third-Grade Teacher

WAYCROSS, Ga. -- Eleven students got together and plotted to kill their teacher, even going so far as to bring handcuffs and a knife to school, Waycross police said.

One of the teacher's relatives said each child at Center Elementary School in Waycross had a job to do, including one assigned to wipe up the blood.

The plot unraveled over the weekend when a student tipped off police, Local 6 reported.

School officials said they never imagined that some of the 8- and 9-year-olds boys and girls at the school would think of bringing physical harm to a teacher, WJXT reported.

"A plan had been developed amongst several of our third-grade students to allegedly do harm to their teacher," said Theresa Martin, of Ware County Schools. "It's shocking that they would think of this at their young age. I think that is probably the most shocking part for all of us," Martin said.

In addition to the knife being found, the school officials said other students had duct tape, handcuffs, ribbon and a heavy crystal paperweight.

The police chief in Waycross said that he believes the plan may have been developed because one of the students was punished with some sort of time out. However, that theory remains under investigation.

"I can't believe that -- because he's a third-grader. You know, I cannot believe that. Especially, for here," said parent Doris Rowland.

The children could face expulsion and criminal charges pending the investigation. (http://www.local6.com/news/15757528/detail.html)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on April 02, 2008, 12:31:17 AM
...and as sex fits very well alongside death:

The teens call their public orgies ponceo. On a typical Friday afternoon in the Chilean capital of Santiago, hundreds gather in a leafy urban park for a few hours of sexual experimentation. (http://www.newsweek.com/id/124098)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on April 02, 2008, 08:31:32 AM
Both of these stories make me wonder what adults will be like if I am around when I am 80....probably I will have been done in by then for being unattractive, or for asking some younger person to not stand on my foot.

Evolution...what is the opposite? We seem to be in for a dose of it.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: MN Dave on April 02, 2008, 09:00:30 AM
Evolution...what is the opposite? We seem to be in for a dose of it.

Are we not men?

(http://www.getreadytorock.com/rock_stars/devo3.jpg)

We are DEVO!!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: BachQ on April 02, 2008, 10:46:28 AM
What's worse: to be arrested for possession of cocaine or death?

Man swallows baggie with suspected cocaine, dies
Star Tribune

April 2, 2008

By PAUL WALSH
A passenger in a car that was stopped by police in downtown Minneapolis swallowed a plastic baggie of suspected cocaine as an officer tried to remove it, and the man died, police said today.  According to the release:  The officer pulled over a vehicle for failure to signal. A male passenger was removed from the vehicle, and police saw that he had a plastic baggie with suspected crack cocaine concealed in his mouth.  The officer attempted to remove the baggie, but the man swallowed it and "immediately went into respiratory arrest." An ambulance was called to the scene, and the man was taken to Hennepin County Medical Center. He had emergency surgery to remove the baggie. He died Tuesday.  The officer was placed on three-day administrative leave, which is standard policy. Police homicide and internal affairs investigators are handling the case.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on April 02, 2008, 01:59:26 PM
Both of these stories make me wonder what adults will be like if I am around when I am 80....probably I will have been done in by then for being unattractive, or for asking some younger person to not stand on my foot.

Evolution...what is the opposite? We seem to be in for a dose of it.

Mike

Brave New World was non-fiction :P
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: BachQ on April 02, 2008, 02:52:59 PM
Man crowded out of home by collecting passion
Wed Apr 2, 2008 11:35am EDT

BERLIN (Reuters) - A German man was such an avid collector of weapons and other paraphernalia that he ran out of space at home and had to sleep in a hotel, neighbors said following the 71-year-old's death.
Executors found an arsenal of weaponry and assorted goods at the man's two-story home in the western city of Aachen, police said on Wednesday. 

"The house was stuffed to the rafters," a reporter said. "By the end, the neighbors said he had to sleep in a hotel sometimes because there was no more room."  One neighbor sometimes handled up to 14 deliveries of goods a day for the man when he was out, he added. "At some point she got fed up with it."


Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: MN Dave on April 03, 2008, 05:16:13 AM
Toddlers Can No Longer Marry in Ark.
April 03, 2008 7:46 AM EST

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. - Arkansas' marriage-age crisis is over. A law that mistakenly allowed anyone - even toddlers - to marry with parental permission was repealed by a measure signed into law Wednesday by Gov. Mike Beebe, ending months of embarrassment for the state and confusion for county clerks.

Lawmakers didn't realize until after the end of last year's regular session that a law they approved, intended to establish 18 as the minimum age for marriage, instead removed the minimum age to marry entirely. An extraneous "not" in the bill allowed anyone who was not pregnant to marry at any age with permission.

The bill read: "In order for a person who is younger than eighteen (18) years of age and who is not pregnant to obtain a marriage license, the person must provide the county clerk with evidence of parental consent to the marriage."

Some lawmakers called for a special session last year, saying the error would make it easy for pedophiles to take advantage of the law. Gov. Mike Beebe said he didn't see any imminent crisis and said the chances of children marrying under the law were slim.

Legislators, however, had the chance for a do-over this week when Beebe convened a special session to consider a hike in the state's severance tax on natural gas. They repealed the botched law, and reinstated 17 as the minimum age to marry for boys and 16 for girls.

Rep. Will Bond, the sponsor of the botched 2007 law and its correction, apologized for the error and asked his colleagues to "throw me a rope and bail me out here."

"I always thought if you put your name on a bill, you should be ready to take the blame if you're willing to accept the credit," Bond said Wednesday.

Bond, a Democrat, said there hadn't been any reports of young children attempting to marry under the 2007 law.

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: karlhenning on April 03, 2008, 05:25:55 AM
All this kerfuffle over a tyro typo . . . .
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: MN Dave on April 03, 2008, 05:26:16 AM
5th-Grader Finds Mistake at Smithsonian
April 02, 2008 9:11 PM EST

ALLEGAN, Mich. - Is fifth-grader Kenton Stufflebeam smarter than the Smithsonian? On a winter break trip with his family to the Smithsonian Institution's National Museum of Natural History, the 11-year-old southwestern Michigan boy noticed that a notation, in bold lettering, mistakenly identified the Precambrian as an era.

Since it opened in 1981, millions of people have paraded past the museum's Tower of Time, a display involving prehistoric time. Kenton was the first to point out the error.

Kenton, who lives in Allegan but attends Alamo Elementary School near Kalamazoo, said his fifth-grade teacher, John Chapman, had nearly made the same mistake about the Precambrian in a classroom earth-science lesson before catching himself.

"I knew Mr. Chapman wouldn't tell all these students" bad information, the boy told the Kalamazoo Gazette for a story published Wednesday.

So Kevin Stufflebeam took his son to the museum's information desk to report Kenton's concern on a comment form.

Last week, the boy received a letter from the museum acknowledging that his observation was "spot on."

"The Precambrian is a dimensionless unit of time, which embraces all the time between the origin of Earth and the beginning of the Cambrian Period of geologic time," the letter says.

The solution to the problem would not involve advanced science but rather simply painting over the word "era," the note says.

While no previous visitors to the museum had brought up the error, it has long rankled the paleobiology department's staff, who noticed it even before the Tower of Time was erected 27 years ago, said Lorraine Ramsdell, educational technician for the museum.

"The question is, why was it put up with that on it in the first place?" Ramsdell said.

Excited as he was to receive the correspondence from museum officials, he couldn't help but point out that it was addressed to Kenton Slufflebeam.

In Allegany.

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: karlhenning on April 03, 2008, 05:30:11 AM
5th-Grader Finds Mistake at Smithsonian

Great!

Quote
While no previous visitors to the museum had brought up the error, it has long rankled the paleobiology department's staff, who noticed it even before the Tower of Time was erected 27 years ago, said Lorraine Ramsdell, educational technician for the museum.

"The question is, why was it put up with that on it in the first place?" Ramsdell said.

Bureaucratic inertia.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: greg on April 03, 2008, 05:55:28 AM
...and as sex fits very well alongside death:

The teens call their public orgies ponceo. On a typical Friday afternoon in the Chilean capital of Santiago, hundreds gather in a leafy urban park for a few hours of sexual experimentation. (http://www.newsweek.com/id/124098)
fascinating.....
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Benny on April 05, 2008, 01:20:17 PM
CENTRAL ISLIP, New York (AP) -- A court has issued what could be at least a local first: an order of protection for a duck.


Ducks are not normally protected by court orders, according to officials in Suffolk County, New York.

 A Suffolk County judge approved the measure Thursday, telling a man accused of shooting a family's pet duck to stay away from the bird and her owners.

Suffolk County Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Chief Roy Gross says he can't recall a previous court case involving cruelty to a duck.

Owner Janet Lippincott says a group of young people bounded over her backyard fence and swarmed the yellow-billed Pekin duck with pellet guns on March 17.

The bird, named Circles, has recovered after a bullet pierced her voice box.

The 21-year-old suspect pleaded not guilty Thursday to felony animal cruelty charges.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on April 05, 2008, 03:00:38 PM
A court has issued what could be at least a local first: an order of protection for a duck.

:D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Benny on April 06, 2008, 03:44:17 AM
This one is old and unimportant news. Bull Terrier vs. Porcupine! And the winner is......!
(http://z.about.com/d/urbanlegends/1/0/m/B/porcupine2.jpg)

Nope. The other guy!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: BachQ on April 06, 2008, 08:19:03 AM
Flintstones' car beats court challenge

TORONTO, April 4 (UPI) -- A Toronto judge dismissed charges of unsafe vehicle operation against an artist's car powered by Flintstone-like foot-paddling.  Last October, the driver of a hollowed-out Buick was fined by Toronto police for being behind the wheel of the "Shared Propulsion Car," which had no floor, engine, transmission or signal lights, the Toronto Star reported.

Driver Dean Baldwin challenged the charges and won, the report said.  The vehicle was originally a work of art by Montreal artist Michel de Broin, designed to be a four-seater bicycle or powered by passengers using their feet for propulsion, as in the classic Hanna-Barbera TV cartoon series "The Flintstones."  One of the issue prosecutors argued unsuccessfully was that the car used tea candles as headlights, the Star said.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Benny on April 06, 2008, 08:26:19 AM
Flintstones' car beats court challenge

TORONTO, April 4 (UPI) -- A Toronto judge dismissed charges of unsafe vehicle operation against an artist's car powered by Flintstone-like foot-paddling.  Last October, the driver of a hollowed-out Buick was fined by Toronto police for being behind the wheel of the "Shared Propulsion Car," which had no floor, engine, transmission or signal lights, the Toronto Star reported.

Driver Dean Baldwin challenged the charges and won, the report said.  The vehicle was originally a work of art by Montreal artist Michel de Broin, designed to be a four-seater bicycle or powered by passengers using their feet for propulsion, as in the classic Hanna-Barbera TV cartoon series "The Flintstones."  One of the issue prosecutors argued unsuccessfully was that the car used tea candles as headlights, the Star said.

I can see why the cops would be all over this art work! ;D
(http://news.windingroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/sharedpropulsioncarhl.jpg)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: MN Dave on April 08, 2008, 05:56:37 AM
Baby With 2 Faces Born in North India
By GURINDER OSAN (Associated Press Writer)
From Associated Press
April 08, 2008 9:11 AM EDT

SAINI SUNPURA, India - A baby with two faces was born in a northern Indian village, where she is doing well and is being worshipped as the reincarnation of a Hindu goddess, her father said Tuesday.

The baby, Lali, apparently has an extremely rare condition known as craniofacial duplication, where a single head has two faces. Except for her ears, all of Lali's facial features are duplicated - she has two noses, two pairs of lips and two pairs of eyes.

"My daughter is fine - like any other child," said Vinod Singh, 23, a poor farm worker.

Lali has caused a sensation in the dusty village of Saini Sunpura, 25 miles east of New Delhi. When she left the hospital, eight hours after a normal delivery on March 11, she was swarmed by villagers, said Sabir Ali, the director of Saifi Hospital.

"She drinks milk from her two mouths and opens and shuts all the four eyes at one time," Ali said.

Rural India is deeply superstitious and the little girl is being hailed as a return of the Hindu goddess of valor, Durga, a fiery deity traditionally depicted with three eyes and many arms.

Up to 100 people have been visiting Lali at her home every day to touch her feet out of respect, offer money and receive blessings, Singh told The Associated Press.

"Lali is God's gift to us," said Jaipal Singh, a member of the local village council. "She has brought fame to our village."

Village chief Daulat Ram said he planned to build a temple to Durga in the village.

"I am writing to the state government to provide money to build the temple and help the parents look after their daughter," Ram said.

Lali's condition is often linked to serious health complications, but the doctor said she was doing well.

"She is leading a normal life with no breathing difficulties," said Ali, adding that he saw no need for surgery.

Lali's parents were married in February 2007. Lali is their first child.

Singh said he took his daughter to a hospital in New Delhi where doctors suggested a CT scan to determine whether her internal organs were normal, but Singh said he felt it was unnecessary.

"I don't feel the need of that at this stage as my daughter is behaving like a normal child, posing no problems," he said.

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Keemun on April 08, 2008, 08:40:11 AM
Man 'targeted by aliens'

A Bosnian man whose home has been hit an incredible five times by meteorites believes he is being targeted by aliens.

Experts at Belgrade University have confirmed that all the rocks Radivoje Lajic has handed over were meteorites.

They are now investigating local magnetic fields to try and work out what makes the property so attractive to the heavenly bodies.

But Mr Lajic, who has had a steel girder reinforced roof put on the house he owns in the northern village of Gornja Lamovite, has an alternative explanation.

He said: "I am obviously being targeted by extraterrestrials. I don't know what I have done to annoy them but there is no other explanation that makes sense. The chance of being hit by a meteorite is so small that getting hit five times has to be deliberate."

The first meteorite fell on his house in November last year and since then a further four have smashed into his home. The strikes always happen when it is raining heavily, never when there are clear skies.

He said: "I did not know what the strange-looking stones were at first but I have since had them all confirmed as meteorites by experts at Belgrade University.

"I am being targeted by aliens. They are playing games with me. I don't know why they are doing this. When it rains I can't sleep for worrying about another strike." (http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_2803149.html)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on April 10, 2008, 09:20:38 PM
Not world news, me news (I have to vent). Amazon UK just tried to charge me £18 to deliver a pack of guitar strings and 6 picks first class... (http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/3517/awwwwwmn2.gif)

*seeks somewhere better*
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: greg on April 11, 2008, 12:25:21 PM
Not world news, me news (I have to vent). Amazon UK just tried to charge me £18 to deliver a pack of guitar strings and 6 picks first class... (http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/3517/awwwwwmn2.gif)

*seeks somewhere better*
No Sam Ash in the UK?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Gurn Blanston on April 11, 2008, 12:32:25 PM
I looked it up, here's a picture.

(http://www.scopical.com.au/lib/global/resize.php?w=300&h=500&constrain=1&img=http://www.scopical.com.au//stream/uploads/1695.jpg)

My ex-wife was 2 faced, but this is really over the top!  :D

8)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on April 12, 2008, 01:32:49 AM
No Sam Ash in the UK?

Dunno - I just used eBay instead, ended up about 4 or 5x cheaper (3 packs of Ernie Ball strings for £10 and free shipping beats £4 for 1 with obscene shipping :)). I keep instinctively checking Amazon for stuff first though, dunno why.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Benny on April 12, 2008, 02:21:54 PM
Apparently, they serve decent meals in jail and you don't have to worry about anything.....

Quote
Police say woman showed up drunk to clean their office
Posted by Stuart Tomlinson, The Oregonian April 09, 2008 13:07PM
Categories: Breaking News
A Newport woman allegedly showed up drunk to her janitorial job last night.


Lincoln County Jail
Ruby Ann PedersenThat may not sound like news, but 42-year-old Ruby Ann Pedersen's job is to clean up the Newport Area Command office of the Oregon State Police.

OSP trooper recruit Ian McKay was at the office completing a report when Pedersen -- her 12-year-old son in tow -- drove up and then came inside.

McKay noticed that Pedersen appeared visibly intoxicated, and after an investigation arrested her on suspicion of driving under the influence of intoxicants and reckless endangering.

Pedersen was booked into the Lincoln County Jail where she is being held in lieu of $15,000 bail.

Lieutenant Kelly Collins of the Oregon State Police said another trooper gave Pedersen's son a ride home.

--Stuart Tomlinsonstuarttomlinson@news.oregonian.com
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Anne on April 12, 2008, 04:38:03 PM
I don't know where else to post this but I have some disturbing news for anyone wandering around in the great outdoors of Traverse City, Michigan.  (Our area is full of tourists all summer as the residents of southern Michigan and Chicago love to spend their vacations here.)

A year ago my niece and her husband built a new home about 15 miles east of Traverse City.  Her mother (my sister) liked the area and built her own home near there also.  The children (13 and 10 years old) spent their summer going back and forth to grandma's house.  This year they planned and had already begun doing the same thing.

Next in the drama is their father, who built some sort of feeder for turkeys.  The first night the feeder was used, something totally destroyed it.  Not to be defeated, father moved the feeder up on top of the large deck on the house to protect it and hopefully give the turkeys something to eat.

Father goes to work at 3:00 pm and comes home very tired, not at all interested in listening to wife saying, "There is something out on the deck.  Go look."  He doesn't move so she goes to investigate.  Looking right back at her is this great big wide-headed BEAR!!!  Father thought it was a male and weighed about 350 pounds.  Bear was still intent on getting the food.  Father gets a very bright light and shines it right at the bear.  (I just cannot believe they did this.....!!!)  Then one of them OPENS THE DOOR into the house!  The only thing between them and the bear is a little screen door for summer use!!!!  Then they yelled at the bear and continued shining the light.  He finally went down the stairs but kept looking back still wanting the food  Eventually he left.

I'll tell you.....if that were my house, there would be a For Sale sign on it at 8:01 the next morning.  Where this house is located is not at all what one would think of as a place for wilderness scenarios to take place.  Civilization is only 1/2 mile away.  Children will be home alone after school while parents and grandmother work.

The parents did have to have a serious talk with the children and told them they must never again walk to grandmother's house without an adult present.

I hope I didn't bore anyone too much.  I have lived in this area for 60 years and never knew there were bears around close.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on April 12, 2008, 08:45:41 PM
Hehehe, the cost of suburban expansion... :D Fortunately the worst things I get are foxes and badgers.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: BachQ on April 13, 2008, 02:32:15 PM

Parents Argue Over Which Gang 4-Year-Old Son Should Join
Friday , April 11, 2008

A couple can't agree on which gang their 4-year-old toddler should join.  A fight about the decision led to a public disturbance with the father's arrest. Joseph Manzanares went to the video store where his girlfriend worked, threatened to kill her and knocked over several video displays, police told KMGH Denver.

Police arrested Manzanares at his home, Commerce City police Sgt. Joe Sandoval told KMGH Denver.  The girlfriend told authorities they were fighting over which gang their son should join. The girlfriend, who is black, is a member of the Crips while Manzanares, who is Hispanic, belongs to the Westside Ballers.  "They have different ideas on how the baby should be raised," Sandoval said. "Basically, she said they cannot agree on which gang the baby would 'claim.'" (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,350249,00.html)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: BachQ on April 13, 2008, 02:33:44 PM

Masseuses told to padlock pants
Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:23pm EDT

JAKARTA (Reuters) - A bid by a local government in Indonesia's East Java province to curb prostitution by asking masseuses to wear a padlock on their pants was an insult, a newspaper quoted the minister for women's empowerment as saying.  The recently implemented policy in the tourist area of Batu was misguided, State Minister for Women's Empowerment Meuthia Hatta told the Jakarta Post on Thursday.  "It is not the right way to prevent promiscuity. It insults women as if they are the ones in the wrong," Hatta said.  The paper showed a photograph of a masseuse with a padlock on the waist band of her trousers and said the local administration's move was aimed at curbing prostitution and maintaining Batu's image as a popular tourist destination.

Indonesia has a flourishing sex industry and massage parlors are frequently a front for prostitution. But there has been a vigorous debate over morality in recent years, exposing deep divisions in the Southeast Asian Muslim-majority nation.  Last month, Indonesia passed a bill to restrict access to pornographic and violent sites on the Internet, while parliament has yet to pass a controversial pornography bill that aims to shield the young from pornographic material and lewd acts.  Earlier draft versions contained provisions that could jail people for kissing in public and criminalize many forms of art or traditional culture that hinge on sensuality, sparking criticism it could curb freedoms and hurt Indonesia's tolerant traditions.

 (http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSJAK8137020080410)




Couple Offers Home as Prize in $100 Essay Contest
Sunday , April 20, 2008

A White Rock couple has this proposal: Write a 500-word essay and you could win their home.

But the Gaming Control Board says the contest that has a $100 entry fee might not be legal under state law.

If someone is truly raffling off their home, it would be illegal under the Bingo and Raffle Act because it's not being done by a qualified nonprofit organization, said Gaming Control Board deputy director Greg Saunders.

However, if the essay contest is deemed "a game of skill," he said the Tiffany and Todd Lovell are in the clear.

"We haven't made that determination yet," he said.

The Lovells said the depressed housing market has caused them to try to move their 1,200-square-foot, three-bedroom, one-bathroom home through an essay contest. They are hoping to get at least 2,500 entries, which would mean they'll make $250,000. The Lovells say the entries will be judged by "various members of the Los Alamos County community."

The Lovells say if they receive fewer than 2,500 entries, they'll cancel the contest and return the entry fees.

The Gaming Control Board is expected to make a determination within the week.





 (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,351852,00.html)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: MN Dave on April 30, 2008, 07:36:52 AM
People of Lesbos take gay group to court over term 'Lesbian'
By NICHOLAS PAPHITIS (Associated Press Writer)
From Associated Press
April 30, 2008 9:22 AM EDT


ATHENS, Greece - A Greek court has been asked to draw the line between the natives of the Aegean Sea island of Lesbos and the world's gay women.

Three islanders from Lesbos - home of the ancient poet Sappho, who praised love between women - have taken a gay rights group to court for using the word lesbian in its name.

One of the plaintiffs said Wednesday that the name of the association, Homosexual and Lesbian Community of Greece, "insults the identity" of the people of Lesbos, who are also known as Lesbians.

"My sister can't say she is a Lesbian," said Dimitris Lambrou. "Our geographical designation has been usurped by certain ladies who have no connection whatsoever with Lesbos," he said.

The three plaintiffs are seeking to have the group barred from using "lesbian" in its name and filed a lawsuit on April 10. The other two plaintiffs are women.

Also called Mytilene, after its capital, Lesbos is famed as the birthplace of Sappho. The island is a favored holiday destination for gay women, particularly the lyric poet's reputed home town of Eressos.

"This is not an aggressive act against gay women," Lambrou said. "Let them visit Lesbos and get married and whatever they like. We just want (the group) to remove the word lesbian from their title."

He said the plaintiffs targeted the group because it is the only officially registered gay group in Greece to use the word lesbian in its name. The case will be heard in an Athens court on June 10.

Sappho lived from the late 7th to the early 6th century B.C. and is considered one of the greatest poets of antiquity. Many of her poems, written in the first person and intended to be accompanied by music, contain passionate references to love for other women.

Lambrou said the word lesbian has only been linked with gay women in the past few decades. "But we have been Lesbians for thousands of years," said Lambrou, who publishes a small magazine on ancient Greek religion and technology that frequently criticizes the Christian Church.

Very little is known of Sappho's life. According to some ancient accounts, she was an aristocrat who married a rich merchant and had a daughter with him. One tradition says that she killed herself by jumping off a cliff over an unhappy love affair.

Lambrou says Sappho was not gay. "But even if we assume she was, how can 250,000 people of Lesbian descent - including women - be considered homosexual?"

The Homosexual and Lesbian Community of Greece could not be reached for comment.

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Brian on April 30, 2008, 07:52:28 AM
"My sister can't say she is a Lesbian," said Dimitris Lambrou. "Our geographical designation has been usurped by certain ladies who have no connection whatsoever with Lesbos," he said.

I hadn't thought of this quirk before. Can the men say they're Lesbian?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: MN Dave on April 30, 2008, 11:27:28 AM
David Blaine breaks world record for holding one's breath
By TARA BURGHART (Associated Press Writer)
From Associated Press
April 30, 2008 3:14 PM EDT


CHICAGO - David Blaine took on a Zen-like appearance in the water tank as the minutes ticked by during his attempt to set a new breath-holding record. Oprah Winfrey, however, was anything but calm.

She fidgeted in her chair, pursed her lips, placed her head in her hands, and kept seeking reassurance from the doctor at her side about the 35-year-old magician's persistently high heart rate.

"I'll be glad when it's over. I don't like suspense," she told the audience during a commercial break.

Soon enough, Winfrey - and Blaine - could breathe a lot easier.

Submerged in a water-filled sphere on the stage of "The Oprah Winfrey Show" during a live broadcast, Blaine held his breath for 17 minutes and 4 seconds. That bested the previous record of 16 minutes and 32 seconds, set Feb. 10 by Switzerland's Peter Colat, according to Guinness World Records.

Blaine had a smile on his face soon after his head rose above the water and he took several deep gulps of air. Within about a minute, he was able to hold a microphone and tell Winfrey, "I feel great," later adding that breaking the record was a fulfillment of "a lifelong dream."

Before his attempt, Blaine was allowed to inhale pure oxygen for up to 30 minutes, although he inhaled for only 23 minutes. A Guinness World Records judge was on hand to certify the feat.

In May 2006 as a finale to a week spent in an aquarium with an oxygen mask at New York's Lincoln Center, Blaine tried to set another type of breath-holding record. Without breathing pure oxygen beforehand, he tried to break the existing record of 8 minutes, 58 seconds for an attempt of that type.

But he had to be rescued shortly after 7 minutes when he was unconscious and having convulsions.

Blaine was in much better shape after Wednesday's attempt. He walked unassisted down a set of stairs to join Winfrey for an interview. He told her he had doubted while in the water whether he'd be able to break the record because of his high heart rate.

The lower the heart rate, the less oxygen is consumed.

Blaine had expected his heart rate to drop perhaps as low as under 20 beats per minute while he was in the water. But for most of the attempt, it was over 100 beats per minute, then started dropping and fluctuating rapidly during the last 2 1/2 minutes.

While training, Blaine said he would meditate to lower his heart rate. But amid the hubbub of a live studio audience, and with a record at stake, Blaine admitted he had trouble forgetting his surroundings.

Earlier in the show, Winfrey noted that her boyfriend, Stedman Graham, was making a rare appearance in the audience because he's such a fan of Blaine's work.

For Winfrey, however, the endurance feat was "nerve-racking to witness," she told Blaine.

Blaine joked about coming back on her show again and again to get used to the surroundings, lower his heart rate and set new breath-holding records.

But first, Blaine said he plans to try to break the world record for staying awake. The current record is 11 1/2 days, he said. However, Guinness said it no longer acknowledges such attempts because of health concerns.

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on April 30, 2008, 11:28:06 PM
People of Lesbos take gay group to court over term 'Lesbian'
By NICHOLAS PAPHITIS (Associated Press Writer)
From Associated Press
April 30, 2008 9:22 AM EDT


ATHENS, Greece - A Greek court has been asked to draw the line between the natives of the Aegean Sea island of Lesbos and the world's gay women.

Three islanders from Lesbos - home of the ancient poet Sappho, who praised love between women - have taken a gay rights group to court for using the word lesbian in its name.

One of the plaintiffs said Wednesday that the name of the association, Homosexual and Lesbian Community of Greece, "insults the identity" of the people of Lesbos, who are also known as Lesbians.

"My sister can't say she is a Lesbian," said Dimitris Lambrou. "Our geographical designation has been usurped by certain ladies who have no connection whatsoever with Lesbos," he said.

The three plaintiffs are seeking to have the group barred from using "lesbian" in its name and filed a lawsuit on April 10. The other two plaintiffs are women.

Also called Mytilene, after its capital, Lesbos is famed as the birthplace of Sappho. The island is a favored holiday destination for gay women, particularly the lyric poet's reputed home town of Eressos.

"This is not an aggressive act against gay women," Lambrou said. "Let them visit Lesbos and get married and whatever they like. We just want (the group) to remove the word lesbian from their title."

He said the plaintiffs targeted the group because it is the only officially registered gay group in Greece to use the word lesbian in its name. The case will be heard in an Athens court on June 10.

Sappho lived from the late 7th to the early 6th century B.C. and is considered one of the greatest poets of antiquity. Many of her poems, written in the first person and intended to be accompanied by music, contain passionate references to love for other women.

Lambrou said the word lesbian has only been linked with gay women in the past few decades. "But we have been Lesbians for thousands of years," said Lambrou, who publishes a small magazine on ancient Greek religion and technology that frequently criticizes the Christian Church.

Very little is known of Sappho's life. According to some ancient accounts, she was an aristocrat who married a rich merchant and had a daughter with him. One tradition says that she killed herself by jumping off a cliff over an unhappy love affair.

Lambrou says Sappho was not gay. "But even if we assume she was, how can 250,000 people of Lesbian descent - including women - be considered homosexual?"

The Homosexual and Lesbian Community of Greece could not be reached for comment.

The island should suck it up and start calling themselves Lesbosians, but this time, make sure that they copyright it :D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: BachQ on May 05, 2008, 03:22:37 AM
Treasure ship discovered inside diamond mine
Published: May 4, 2008 at 5:01 PM

ORANJEMUND, Namibia, May 4 (UPI) -- The DeBeers company found a different treasure in a diamond mining operation along the coast of Namibia -- the remains of a ship laden with gold coins.

Dieter Noli, the archaeologist who has been examining the wreck, told The Times of South Africa the site is the richest gold find on the continent since a major ancient Egyptian discovery in the Valley of the Kings.

"I told them sooner or later you'll find a wreck; and I've been waiting patiently for the last 20 years ... but now: jackpot," he said.

The 500-year-old ship was carrying at least 2,500 gold coins from Spain and 50 elephant tusks. The vessel was heavily armed, but some of the weapons were out of date.

Noli thinks the cargo suggests a European pirate or rogue captain may have been trying to sell arms to African rulers.

The ship's timbers have long since decayed, but a few human bones have turned up.

A DeBeers geologist spotted copper ingots on April 1, suggesting that the mine 600 feet off a beach, contained more than diamonds.

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Brian on May 05, 2008, 05:49:41 AM
Glad to hear it. DeBeers needed the money.  ::)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on May 05, 2008, 09:44:51 AM
Glad to hear it. DeBeers needed the money.  ::)

Yes, I was getting anxious about that. Ouf...one more worry put to bed.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Heather Harrison on May 05, 2008, 05:26:15 PM
Man crowded out of home by collecting passion
Wed Apr 2, 2008 11:35am EDT

BERLIN (Reuters) - A German man was such an avid collector of weapons and other paraphernalia that he ran out of space at home and had to sleep in a hotel, neighbors said following the 71-year-old's death.
Executors found an arsenal of weaponry and assorted goods at the man's two-story home in the western city of Aachen, police said on Wednesday. 

"The house was stuffed to the rafters," a reporter said. "By the end, the neighbors said he had to sleep in a hotel sometimes because there was no more room."  One neighbor sometimes handled up to 14 deliveries of goods a day for the man when he was out, he added. "At some point she got fed up with it."

I heard about this one.  I'm worried that this might happen to me one day.  I collect all sorts of things, and my place is gradually filling up.  Of course, I don't stop buying things.  One day, somebody will probably find me buried under a collapsed pile of CDs, books, and telephones.

Heather
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Keemun on May 05, 2008, 05:45:21 PM
Mother Accused of Shooting Girl For $1 Bet

Story Created: May 3, 2008

Story Updated: May 3, 2008


SHEBOYGAN, Wis. (AP) -- A 28-year-old woman shot her 8-year-old daughter in the thigh with a BB gun to win a $1 bet with her boyfriend, according to authorities.

Angelique R. Vandeburg was charged with one felony count of intentional child abuse. She made an initial court appearance Friday and was released on a $5,000 signature bond

The girl told police the shot hurt so much that she couldn't walk, according to a criminal complaint.

Her mother and the mother's boyfriend had been drinking heavily before the boyfriend offered Vandeburg $1 and handed her the gun, prosecutors quoted the girl as saying.

The complaint provided the following account of the incident:

Investigators began looking into the incident Wednesday after a school counselor reported it to police. The girl had been shot three or four days earlier, on April 26 or 27, but a circular bruise remained visible on her thigh, the counselor said.

The girl said the shooting occurred in her mother's bedroom after her mother had 10 to 12 beers.

The boyfriend bet the mother $1 she wouldn't shoot the girl. The mother responded by taking the gun and shooting the girl, who was wearing three pairs of pants. The BB deflected off her leg and struck her 7-year-old brother, who wasn't injured.

The boyfriend then grabbed the gun, ran from the house and drove away.

Vandeburg told her daughter to keep quiet about the incident, saying it was a "family thing" and that the mother would go to jail if the girl told.

The complaint quoted Vandeburg as telling a police detective the girl was lying to get her in trouble. She said the girl suffered the bruise three weeks earlier when she fell from her bike and hit her leg on the handlebar.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: BorisG on May 06, 2008, 07:19:08 PM
Carrot Top at Vegas' "Cathouse" nightclub.

(http://celebslam.buzznet.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/carrot-top-jump.jpg)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on May 07, 2008, 04:50:22 AM
WTF is wrong with him? :-\
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: BachQ on May 07, 2008, 04:58:58 AM
WTF is wrong with him? :-\

Carrot Top has some "issues" ..........
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on May 07, 2008, 06:32:29 AM
Clearly time has not been kind to Nicole Kidman.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on May 07, 2008, 07:13:59 AM
Clearly time has not been kind to Nicole Kidman.

Mike

(http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/5341/49467ed2a966123eu4.gif) ;D

Incidentely, I watched half of a film with her in last night (To Die For).
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: karlhenning on May 07, 2008, 07:19:07 AM
For whatever passel of reasons, I've hardly seen anything Kidman is in.

Notable exception was Moulin Rouge, which we found garish even by Baz standards  0:)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Harry on May 07, 2008, 07:27:15 AM
Kidman is a fine actress and a good looking woman, with a fabulous body, and I saw many films with her, that made me long for such perfection in feminine beauty. :)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Harry on May 07, 2008, 07:28:29 AM
(http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/5341/49467ed2a966123eu4.gif) ;D

Incidentely, I watched half of a film with her in last night (To Die For).

Somehow Sarah, these animated smiley's make me quite sad....... :'(
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on May 07, 2008, 10:41:26 AM
Somehow Sarah, these animated smiley's make me quite sad....... :'(

Indeedie, a bullying emoticon :'(
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: greg on May 07, 2008, 11:00:15 AM
Carrot Top at Vegas' "Cathouse" nightclub.

(http://celebslam.buzznet.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/carrot-top-jump.jpg)
.....
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on May 08, 2008, 11:19:26 PM
Some very funny news was on the radio just now. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1939204/Cardinal-UK-a-land-of-spiritual-homelessness.html)

He continued: "I detect among many people a sense of loss, of not being in touch with living sources that can nourish them. They want to live by shared values that can sustain our society but do not know where to find them.

For a long while in this country, those "shared values" were anti-Popery :D

However the Archbishop also urged the faithful to treat those who do not believe in God with "deep esteem"

This is a member of the church which preaches Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus...
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Harry on May 08, 2008, 11:21:54 PM
Some very funny news was on the radio just now. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1939204/Cardinal-UK-a-land-of-spiritual-homelessness.html)

He continued: "I detect among many people a sense of loss, of not being in touch with living sources that can nourish them. They want to live by shared values that can sustain our society but do not know where to find them.

For a long while in this country, those "shared values" were anti-Popery :D

However the Archbishop also urged the faithful to treat those who do not believe in God with "deep esteem"

This is a member of the church which preaches Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus...

Duly noted ;D ;D ;D
It took me some time to recover this shock!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: BorisG on May 12, 2008, 11:18:53 AM
Speedo Lawsuit

http://www.winknews.com/news/weird/18776144.html
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: BorisG on May 13, 2008, 06:21:53 AM
Spielberg joins regulars for Cannes film fest
 
May 13, 9:41 AM (ET)

By DAVID GERMAIN
 
CANNES, France (AP) - Rounding up a lot of the usual suspects, the Cannes Film Festival presents a lineup from an illustrious if somewhat predictable gang of regulars, including Clint Eastwood, Steven Soderbergh, Woody Allen, Atom Egoyan and Wim Wenders.

Then there's Steven Spielberg - who's not quite a newcomer, since he's been at Cannes before. But the festival's centerpiece, "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull," marks the director's first trip back since the 1980s, when he showed "The Color Purple" and "E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial" here.

The new "Indiana Jones" flick opens worldwide May 22, four days after its Cannes premiere, giving the movie a similar global rollout that preceded blockbuster "E.T."

"That's our benchmark. This is the same kind of movie in that (Cannes is) kind of the perfect launching pad, because we can bring the whole world there," said Frank Marshall, producer on the "Indiana Jones" movies. "It's perfectly timed for our release worldwide."

In its 61st year, the world's most-prestigious film festival sometimes catches heat for including too many glossy Hollywood productions, such as past opening-night film "The Da Vinci Code" or action spectacles such as "Matrix Reloaded" and "X-Men: The Last Stand."

While this year's festival, which opens Wednesday, also includes the cute and cuddly animated comedy "Kung Fu Panda," featuring the voices of Jack Black, Angelina Jolie and Dustin Hoffman, the rest of the schedule is mostly serious cinema, much of it from past Cannes luminaries.

Eastwood returns with "Changeling," a child-abduction drama starring Jolie, while Soderbergh is showing "Che," his two-part epic on revolutionary Che Guevara, featuring Benicio Del Toro. Wenders offers "Palermo Shooting," a thriller about a photographer pursued by a mysterious gunman, and Egoyan presents "Adoration," centered on a youth who reinvents himself in cyberspace.

Also back are Belgian siblings Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne, whose stark drama "L'Enfant" won the Palme d'Or, the top honor at Cannes, two years ago. This time, the Dardennes present "Lorna's Silence," the tale of an Albanian woman caught up in an elaborate underworld crime plot in Belgium.

With international press mobbing the French Riviera resort, there is no better spotlight than Cannes for a film to gain global attention, said Harvey Weinstein, whose Weinstein Co. is premiering Allen's romantic drama "Vicky Cristina Barcelona" with Scarlett Johansson, Javier Bardem and Penelope Cruz.
 
"Cannes is a grand stage," said Weinstein, whose past top prize winners at the festival include "Pulp Fiction,""Fahrenheit 9/11" and Soderbergh's "sex, lies and videotape.""You have the Oscars, which are American-centric, and the world-centric place is Cannes. It's the most far-reaching, important festival in the world and creates a worldwide image for films you're launching there."

Among other Cannes highlights: James Gray's romance "Two Lovers," with Joaquin Phoenix, Gwyneth Paltrow and Isabella Rossellini; James Toback's "Tyson," a documentary on the rise and fall of heavyweight boxing champ Mike Tyson; and "Synecdoche, New York," the directing debut of "Being John Malkovich" screenwriter Charlie Kaufman.

Then there's the parties, fashion and stargazing. With a red carpet that swoops up the broad stairs of the Palais, the festival's headquarters along the Mediterranean, Cannes puts celebrities under a glamor microscope like no other.

"It's a carnival, it's a spectacle. It's fun," said David Koepp, who wrote "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" and came to Cannes twice previously as a young assistant to a film sales agent. "There's a lot of crazy people. What you get to see at Cannes is all the crazy, rich foreigners who want to get into Hollywood, having parties on their yachts."

The festival presents two major premieres most nights during its 12-day run, with stars preening and posing in front of an endless throng of shouting, gesticulating photographers.

Karen Allen, who reprises her "Raiders of the Lost Ark" role in a reunion with Spielberg, executive producer George Lucas and "Indiana Jones" star Harrison Ford, recalled her first trip to Cannes.

"It was one of the most surreal moments of my life, standing at the bottom of those stairs at the Palais," Allen said. "So many flashbulbs are going off, you're blind."

The new "Indiana Jones" movie has been kept under tight wraps, with Spielberg and his collaborators playing coy on key plot points.

This much is known: The story is set in 1957, 19 years after the action of 1989's "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade," and archaeologist-adventurer Indy is battling Cate Blanchett's Soviet operative over ancient crystal skulls that may possess immeasurable power.

However the movie turns out, fans are happy at the return of Allen as Indy's old flame Marion Ravenwood, whose stormy relationship with Jones promises to pick up where it left off more than two decades ago.

"It's just like 'Raiders of the Lost Ark,'" Lucas said. "It's like you just said, 'We'll wait 20 years, and we'll do the reunion movie.'"
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on May 13, 2008, 03:23:47 PM
'Sex pest' seal attacks penguin (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7379554.stm)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: BachQ on May 14, 2008, 03:16:08 AM


The electric cigarette that gives you a nicotine hit and gets round the smoking ban
Last updated at 12:04pm on 14th May 2008

(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/05_04/electroSmokeBNPS_468x348.jpg)

Inventors have created an electric cigarette which gives a nicotine hit while still managing to avoid the smoking ban. The small white stick, which looks just like a proper cigarette, contains a chamber that vapourises pure liquid nicotine into a puff of steam.  Smokers can inhale the vapours as they would a cigarette smoke and still get the buzz - without taking in any harmful substances.

Nicotine is its only ingredient, unlike tobacco alternatives which contain over 4,000 chemicals and tar. The electric cigarette is battery powered, has a glowing red tip and tastes like the real thing.  Makers claim it can be used inside pubs and restaurants despite the national smoking ban as it has no flame and does not
produce smoke.  They also say the cigarette cannot cause lung cancer as it only contains nicotine.  The stick, called Gamucci Micro Electronic Cigarette, uses small cartridges which are filled with the liquid substance.

There are three types of cartridge, 'low' which contains six milligrams of nicotine, 'medium' which has 11mg, and 'high' which contains 16mg.  A tiny atomizing chamber inside the stick heats up the liquid when the user takes a drag, and within a second reduces it to vapour.  The effects kick-in almost instantaneously and provide a nicotine hit without harmful tar and carcinogens. Passive smoking is impossible, making it perfect for indoor use.  The Gamucci is on sale via online gadget company I Want One Of Those for £49.95 which includes two sticks, five 'high-strength' cartridges and a mains charger. But it is only available to people aged 18 or over and is not suitable for pregnant or breastfeeding women.  (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=566351&in_page_id=1770)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on May 14, 2008, 04:20:43 AM
This is kind of sad (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/13/419_victim/) and makes me wish the net came with a beginners guide.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: BorisG on May 14, 2008, 09:01:19 AM
Olsen X 2

(http://www.whatupthug.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/nudeolsentwins.jpg)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: BachQ on May 14, 2008, 01:06:45 PM
13 Year Old Steals Dad's Credit Card to Buy Hookers



A 13 year old from Texas who stole his Dad's credit card and ordered two hookers from an escort agency, has today been convicted of fraud and given a three year community order.

Ralph Hardy, a 13 year old from Newark, Texas confessed to ordering an extra credit card from his father's existing credit card company, and took his friends on a $30,000 spending spree, culminating in playing "Halo" on an Xbox with a couple of hookers in a Texas motel.

The credit card company involved said it was regular practice to send extra credit cards out as long as all security questions are answered.

The escort girls who were released without charge, told the arresting officers something was up when the kids said they would rather play Xbox than get down to business.

Police said they were alerted to the motel by a concerned delivery clerk, whom after delivering supplies of Dr Pepper, Fritos and Oreos had been asked by the kids where they could score some chicks and were willing to pay. They explained they had just made a big score at a "World of Warcraft" tournament and wanted to get some relaxation. On noting the boys age the delivery clerk informed the authorities.

When police arrived at the motel they found $3,000 in cash, numerous electronic gadgets, an Xbox video console with numerous games, and the two local escort girls.

Ralph had reportedly told police that his father wouldn't mind, as it was his birthday last week and he had forgot to get him a present. The father, a lawyer said he had been too busy, but would take him on a surprise trip to Disneyland instead.

Asked why he ordered two escorts, Ralph said he thought it was the thing to do when you win a "World of Warcraft" tournament. They told the suspicious working girls they were people of restricted growth working with a traveling circus, and as State law does not allow those with disabilities to be discriminated against they had no right to refuse them.

The $1,000 a night girls sensing something up played "Halo" on the Xbox with the kids, instead of selling their sexual services.

Ralph's ambition is to one day become a politician. (http://www.money.co.uk/article/1000390-13-year-old-steals-dads-credit-card-to-buy-hookers.htm)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: BorisG on May 15, 2008, 02:48:19 AM
Sean Penn warns Barack Obama at Cannes Film Festival opening

By Anita Singh, The Telegraph Showbusiness Editor

Last Updated: 8:31AM BST 15/05/2008

The Cannes Film Festival got off to a lively start with Sean Penn, president of this year's jury, sounding off about US Presidential hopeful Barack Obama and the opening movie almost being upstaged by a bunch of performing pandas.

Penn joined fellow judge Natalie Portman on the red carpet for the premiere of the first night film, Blindness, a thriller starring Julianne Moore.

At a press conference beforehand, the actor, an outspoken critic of the Bush administration, offered his views on the Democratic nomination race.

Asked if he would be joining other Hollywood A-listers in pledging support for Obama, Penn gave him a less than ringing endorsement and warned that he has an awful lot to live up to.

”I don't have a candidate I'm supporting and I'm certainly interested and excited by the hope that Barack Obama is inspiring,” he said, but went on to accuse him of a “phenomenally inhuman and unconstitutional” voting record.

”I hope that he will understand, if he is the nominee, the degree of disillusionment that will happen if he doesn't become a greater man than he will ever be,” Penn said. “This is the most important election, certainly in my lifetime, and maybe ever.”

Portman, 26, said she would not be endorsing Obama or his rival, Hillary Clinton, but added: “I think it's a very exciting year for our politics, that for the first time in a while we have a choice of who we like better instead of who we hate least.”

Penn said it was impossible to separate film from politics, and promised that the winning film would be a reflection of the current climate.

“One way or another, when we select the Palme d'Or winner, I think we are going to feel very confident that the film-maker who made the film is very aware of the times in which he or she lives.”

There are 22 films in competition for the Palme d'Or and the jury will watch them over the next 12 days. “The idea is to be wide awake with an empty bladder for the start of everything,” explained Penn.

Asked if he was enjoying it so far, he complained that he had been “discouraged from smoking” – France's smoking ban was introduced last year – before lighting up and chain-smoking his way through the press conference.  ::)

The opening film, Blindness, is a thriller from director Fernando Meirelles about a town struck down by a mysterious epidemic, leaving Moore the only character with the ability to see.

Based on the novel by Nobel Prize-winning author Jose Saramago, its story of a community hit by disaster and receiving no government help draws obvious parallels with Hurricane Katrina.

Moore said the film was timely: “I think there's sometimes something in the zeitgeist. There's a tremendous amount of tragedy right now, physical tragedy and man-made tragedy, and we are feeling anxious.”

The 47-year-old actress dyed her famous red hair blonde for the role. She said: “I'm a redhead and I'm always a redhead, except for this movie. I don't want to do it again. I didn't like it very much.”

Away from the main competition, comic actor Jack Black launched his latest movie, DreamWorks animation Kung Fu Panda, by performing martial arts moves on the beach in the company of 40 extras in panda suits. Black, who lends his voice to the film along with the likes of Angelina Jolie and Lucy Liu, explained that he was there to create “panda-monium”.

The film creating the most buzz on the Croisette remains Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, which has its world premiere on Sunday. Harrison Ford, Cate Blanchett and director Steven Spielberg will fly in later this week for the summer's most eagerly-awaited sequel.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on May 16, 2008, 11:11:40 AM
Almost the wrong thread to post this in, as it's obviously of global importance...

Botched sex game leads to heart piercing

A Canadian man who asked his lover to carve a heart-shaped symbol on his chest during a rough sex game almost died when she accidentally pressed too hard and punctured his heart, a newspaper reported.

The Winnipeg Free Press said the 25-year-old woman had been sentenced to three years' probation after she pleaded guilty to assaulting the man in February 2007.

The 24-year-old man was initially given little chance of survival but made a full recovery and is backing the woman.

Both had been drinking heavily and engaging in rough sex when he asked the woman to carve the symbol, the paper said. (http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/4551218a4560.html)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: BachQ on May 16, 2008, 03:10:56 PM
A Canadian man who asked his lover to carve a heart-shaped symbol on his chest during a rough sex game almost died when she accidentally pressed too hard and punctured his heart, a newspaper reported.

Ummmm ....... wouldn't you need to puncture through a bone (sternum) to reach the heart?  ???

Strange.  :o
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on May 18, 2008, 09:31:20 AM
I have heard via the radio that Pressi. Bush has decided to sacrifice playing golf to show solidarity with his men and women in Iraq. I have no doubt they will be touched, he certainly is.

Mike
Title: Life goes on. Bra!
Post by: mn dave on June 23, 2008, 09:36:06 AM
http://enews.earthlink.net/article/top?guid=20080623/485f1fc0_3ca6_15526200806232062355853
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Brian on June 23, 2008, 04:30:58 PM
On second thought, this belongs in the important news thread!:

Quote
One of the last shipments to a U.S. research base in Antarctica before air service was suspended for the winter included 16,500 condoms. There are 125 scientists and staff members at the base. Winter lasts three to four months. You do the math.
http://www.courant.com/features/lifestyle/hc-shea0614.artjun14,0,2298625.column

And the scary thing is, these are SCIENTISTS in ANTARCTICA. You know. Geeks.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on June 29, 2008, 12:29:34 AM
The politics of kids birthday parties. In Sweden one case of a child who failed to invite two of his classmates to his birthday party is being discussed in parliament.

His teacher noticed two boys had not been given invites and he confiscated all the cards. He maintained it was a form of discrimination; though the item specifies that one of the kids had been nasty to the birthday boy over a period of time.

The State is involving itself over who kids celebrate with...you have to invite your enemies if the invites were given out on school premises.

Of course, The Times is not the most trustworthy of commentators, but, assuming some truth in the reporting, here is the startling story.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4228131.ece

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: J.Z. Herrenberg on June 29, 2008, 12:58:25 AM
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The school, in Lund, southern Sweden, argues that if invitations are handed out on school premises, which are public areas, it has an obligation to ensure that there is no discrimination. It is irrelevant that the party will be held in a private household.

Send the things through the post.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on June 29, 2008, 01:18:14 AM
But ought someone have to 'get round' the system in that way? Is it appropriate that the state sets up such a system? I think things are over intrusive in the UK, but I hope we don't get to the Swedish point with this issue. I think that Sweden has 100% adult literacy rate, so they have a lot to commend them in achieving that. Lots of good policies in with the mix no doubt.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: J.Z. Herrenberg on June 29, 2008, 02:10:37 AM
But ought someone have to 'get round' the system in that way? Is it appropriate that the state sets up such a system? I think things are over intrusive in the UK, but I hope we don't get to the Swedish point with this issue. I think that Sweden has 100% adult literacy rate, so they have a lot to commend them in achieving that. Lots of good policies in with the mix no doubt.

No, I don't like the State enforcing 'Paradise', it can easily lead to creating Hell. It's better to take human imperfection into account and encourage people to mitigate its effects as they see fit. By sending invitations through the post, for instance, avoiding envy and resentment.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on June 29, 2008, 02:28:28 AM
Yes, if all but two boys were invited, that is pointed. But for the state to take a part seems heavy-handed.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: J.Z. Herrenberg on June 29, 2008, 02:39:00 AM
Yes, if all but two boys were invited, that is pointed. But for the state to take a part seems heavy-handed.

The Scandinavian countries are small, population-wise, and ethnically still quite homogeneous (our resident Norwegians and Danes may correct me). One big village, one big family. The Swedes talk about the 'folkhem' ('the people's home'). So perhaps the sense of exclusion could be accordingly bigger. And 'the State' seems perhaps less distant. To say it with a pun: Nanny can be your Nan.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on June 29, 2008, 04:00:31 AM
I suppose the lack of immigration in theory gives you an advantage with the literacy rate. Here in the UK we have entire schools consisting of children for whom English is not their first language. However, the picture seems to be more complex, in that the rate amongst the indigenous population is far from satisfactory. Some new reading schemes have been introduced, but it is to remedy a problem that ought never to have been there.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Christo on June 29, 2008, 06:59:45 AM
Amy Winehouse - my most beloved artist, of course - hitting a fan:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7479715.stm
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: J.Z. Herrenberg on June 29, 2008, 07:01:35 AM
Amy Winehouse - my most beloved artist, of course - hitting a fan:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7479715.stm

With her it's always something hitting the fan. Stupid woman.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Christo on June 29, 2008, 07:04:26 AM
Stupid woman.

Oh dear. Have to report you to the moderator, for abusing a religion ...  ;)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: J.Z. Herrenberg on June 29, 2008, 07:07:56 AM
Oh dear. Have to report you to the moderator, for abusing a religion ...  ;)

You're right! I forgot...  ;D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on June 29, 2008, 07:17:52 AM
What does she keep in her hair? Her stash....a bucket and mop.....her complete works of Shelley?

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Anne on June 29, 2008, 07:47:03 AM
She wears a wig.

She has been diagnosed w/ early stages of emphysema according to her father this last week.  When she was released from the hospipal, she started smoking immediately.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on July 07, 2008, 04:34:48 AM
Adolf Hitler Beheaded in Berlin (http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,564100,00.html)

Dr Who fans complain to Ofcom (http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/07/07/dr-fans-complain-ofcom)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: J.Z. Herrenberg on July 07, 2008, 06:45:08 AM
Adolf Hitler Beheaded in Berlin (http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,564100,00.html)

Henryk M. Broder, a reporter and commentator for SPIEGEL, said wryly: "Finally an attack on Hitler was successful."

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: karlhenning on July 07, 2008, 06:47:08 AM
Quote
"Never again war!" the man yelled as he attacked the wax figure.

I suppose that the fellow who defaced the wax figure does not see the irony in his vandalism?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on July 07, 2008, 06:50:21 AM
I suppose that the fellow who defaced the wax figure does not see the irony in his vandalism?

Indeed - now the candlestick men are going to launch a retaliatory invasion of Europe...
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: J.Z. Herrenberg on July 07, 2008, 06:53:06 AM
I suppose that the fellow who defaced the wax figure does not see the irony in his vandalism?

But if Hitler had only attacked a wax figure, he wouldn't have been a wax figure at Madame Tussaud's...
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: karlhenning on July 07, 2008, 06:54:03 AM
But if Hitler had only attacked a wax figure, he wouldn't have been a wax figure at Madame Tussaud's...

So Mme. Tussaud is rewarding bad behavior, you think, Johan?  ;)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: J.Z. Herrenberg on July 07, 2008, 07:04:06 AM
So Mme. Tussaud is rewarding bad behavior, you think, Johan?  ;)

They call that History, my dear Karl...

(Are the arts and sport the most innocent things to make history with, I wonder)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: karlhenning on July 07, 2008, 07:07:24 AM
They call that History, my dear Karl...

History! I've heard of it!

All the more reason to admire men who make a mark in history in a positive way, yes? (I'm sure Mme. Tussaud does these figures [waxen] justice, too.)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: J.Z. Herrenberg on July 07, 2008, 07:21:38 AM
All the more reason to admire men who make a mark in history in a positive way, yes? (I'm sure Mme. Tussaud does these figures [waxen] justice, too.)

Agreed. That's why this Forum exists, for example.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: pjme on July 08, 2008, 10:54:21 AM
In the summer of 2008, the tenth World Harp Congress will take place in Amsterdam, Holland. Harpists from all over the world will visit The Netherlands to play, excibit, give lectures or attend concerts. The first World Harp Congress was in Holland and it is great to have it back here after 25 years.
With some harpteachers from Holland we made a program for everybody to attend. All Dutch students from all over the country are invited to play in the World greatest Harp Orchestra. When you attend the congress from abroad and you can arrange a harp to play on, you are welcome to join us.
We will try to set a Guinness World Record with the greatest harp orchestra, maybe even two, when we will also try to make the longest harp orchestra with an improvisation piece by Claudia Rumondor.
In the concert we will play new pieces by Alfredo Rolando Ortiz from Venezuela and by Kaska from the USA. Maestro Kaska will also conduct the concert.
Deborah Henson will play a solo with her Guinness 500 Blues, accompanied by the harporchestra. Frank Groothof, a Dutch singer, will sing a Dutch song which is arranged for the 500 harps by Rosetty.
The concert will take place on Tuesday the 22 nd of July at the Passengers-terminal near the ‘Muziekgebouw aan het IJ' in Amsterdam.
You can subscribe for this event on the site www.harp.eu . The form is in Dutch. When you have problems filling in this form: mail to yolanda@sax.nl
In order to receive the music and the rehearsal CD you have to pay 25 Euro in advance. After subscribing you will receive the details for this payment. This 25 Euro is not included in the Congress pass or Day pass.
We will be happy to welcome you!

Peter

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Novi on July 09, 2008, 03:47:02 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/norfolk/7496923.stm

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Teenager finds bat asleep in bra 

A teenager who thought movement in her underwear was caused by her vibrating mobile phone found a bat curled up asleep in her bra.

Abbie Hawkins, 19, of Norwich, had been wearing the bra for five hours when she plucked up the courage to investigate.

When she did, she found a baby bat in padding in her 34FF bra. The hotel receptionist said she was shocked but felt bad for removing the "cuddly" bat.

"It looked cosy and comfortable and I was sorry for disturbing it," she said.

She was sitting at her desk at work when she decided to investigate the strange movements in her underwear.

"I put my hand down my bra and pulled out a cuddly little bat.   Perhaps I should have left it there and given it a good home

"That shocked me very much at the time, but it scuttled off under the desk into the dark. I was shaking from head to toe.

"It looked quite cosy and comfortable in there so it was quite rude of me to take it out.

"When I realised it was a bat the first thing that occurred to me was how did it get in there.

"I felt quite sorry for it. Perhaps I should have left it there and given it a good home.

"I did not notice anything as I put my bra on. The night before I had had one or two drinks and I was getting ready quickly.

"The bra was in my drawer but it had been on the washing line the day before.

"When I was driving to work, I felt a slight vibration but I thought it was just my mobile phone in my jacket pocket."

The bat was captured by one of her colleagues and released.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: greg on July 09, 2008, 05:55:55 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/norfolk/7496923.stm

Maybe the bat was actually an Animorph?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: mn dave on July 09, 2008, 08:19:19 AM
Fat man

Bad Sperm (http://enews.earthlink.net/article/top?guid=20080709/487437c0_3421_13345200807091643940653)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: mn dave on July 11, 2008, 10:48:32 AM
No Fido for you! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7501768.stm)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Papy Oli on July 12, 2008, 07:36:46 AM
- Golf club ends 113-year sock rule -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7503576.stm?lsm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7503576.stm?lsm)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on July 12, 2008, 07:46:24 AM
- Golf club ends 113-year sock rule -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7503576.stm?lsm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7503576.stm?lsm)

"a move that officials said has divided the club's 600 members."

Poor buggers ::)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Gurn Blanston on July 12, 2008, 08:36:13 AM
- Golf club ends 113-year sock rule -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7503576.stm?lsm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7503576.stm?lsm)

How this qualifies as "unimportant news" eludes me! TRADITION!. Dammit!  >:(   :)

8)

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Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Papy Oli on July 12, 2008, 08:51:40 AM
oh, put a sock in it !   >:D

 :P

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Gurn Blanston on July 12, 2008, 09:32:41 AM
oh, put a sock in it !   >:D

 :P



OK, but just a little short one, not one of those great knee-length rascals...  0:)

8)

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K 159a 160 String Quartet #7 in Eb - Talich Quartet - K 159a 160 String Quartet #7 in Eb 3rd mvmt - Presto
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Anne on July 12, 2008, 12:04:12 PM
 
'Lifesaver' Bottle Purifies Water in Seconds
Friday, May 09, 2008

By Allison Barrie

 Lifesaver Systems

There's a reason they call it the "Lifesaver."

On the outside, it looks like an ordinary sports bottle. On the inside, there's a miracle: an extremely advanced filtration system that makes murky water filled with deadly viruses and bacteria completely clean in just seconds.

The Lifesaver removes 99.999 percent of water-borne pathogens and reduces heavy metals like lead, meaning even the filthiest water can be cleaned — immediately.

It will be a boon to soldiers in the field, so it's winning accolades from the military.

It also stands to revolutionize humanitarian aid. It could be the first weapon in the fight against disease after a natural disaster, like the one in Myanmar this week.

I attended the Lifesaver’s launch at DSEi London, the world’s largest arms fair. Its inventor provided a pool of dirty pond water as a test subject, and I drank some after it was filtered. Not only did it look pure once it passed through the Lifesaver, it tasted pure, too.

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• Click here to see a British soldier demonstrating how the Lifesaver will clean even the dirtiest water.

The process takes only 20 seconds and is simple enough: scoop some water, pump it through the filter and you’re ready to go. The instructions are displayed in pictures on the side of the bottle, so it can be used by anyone, removing the language barrier.

Outdoor enthusiasts may find it useful, but the Lifesaver is perfect for the military. The bottle is designed to “scoop and go,” so soldiers won’t have to carry the added weight of clean bottled water. They can pick some up out of any source and keep moving.

As an added bonus, the bottle can shoot a pressurized jet of water from any angle, which will be useful for washing wounds free of contaminants and debris.

Other filters use ceramic pores and can’t catch most bacteria and viruses, but the Lifesaver uses microscopic pores a mere 15 nanometers across — about one-hundredth the width of a spider’s silk — narrow enough to stop the tiniest threats. That means virtually nothing — not even bacteria and viruses — can get through.

And since the bottle uses a carbon filter, it makes water safe and sterile without any chemicals, removing that iodine or chlorine taste.

The bottle weighs about 1.5 pounds and can filter one and a half pints of clean drinking water each go. Its replaceable filter can handle more than 1,500 gallons of dirty water before it has to be replaced. And since it won’t process any water once the filter has expired, it will be impossible to drink contaminated water by mistake.

Michael Pritchard, a British entrepreneur, designed the Lifesaver in the wake of freshwater shortages that followed the 2004 tsunami and Hurricane Katrina.

Delivering bottled water to disaster areas is difficult, especially in places like Myanmar, where the government is currently interfering with efforts to distribute supplies and aid. If disaster victims had access to the Lifesaver, they could have ongoing access to clean water without the need for airlifts.

Delivering those planeloads of water is expensive, too. A U.S. Army study revealed that the cost of delivering bottled water to Afghanistan was $4.69 per gallon. Pentagon figures on Hurricane Mitch showed the cost of air freight was even higher: $7.60 per gallon.

Just one Boeing C-17 transport plane full of Lifesaver bottles would provide 500,000 people with access to safe drinking water for up to 16 months — saving millions and saving lives.


Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on July 24, 2008, 03:36:32 AM
Hailstones blasted man off toilet

(http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/4704/hailstorm2pw9.jpg)

An Austrian man, Martin Bierbauer, was blasted off the toilet when huge hailstones started shooting out of it.

The crazy weather in Austria where the temperature dropped over 30 degrees centigrade in just a few days has led to freak hail storms in the country.

Martin Bierbauer said: “I heard the pipes rumbling a bit, and suddenly hailstones the size of golf balls started exploding out of the toilet like it was a popcorn machine.

“There was an avalanche of ice that quickly filled the toilet, then the entire flat, and eventually the entire building.

“I ran down the stairs with the hailstones following me, and other residents did the same.”

The incident was caused by hailstones flooding into a local drain during a torrential downpour, which became blocked. The pressure become to great and the hailstones had to go somewhere and they came out through the toilets. (http://eatmypotato.com/index.php/interesting-stories/hailstones-blasted-man-off-toilet/)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: J.Z. Herrenberg on July 24, 2008, 03:41:11 AM
What's new?







(  ;D )
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Renfield on July 24, 2008, 04:34:06 AM
The hailstone blast-off had me laughing so hard I was almost crying. :P
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ezodisy on August 07, 2008, 08:00:53 AM
This isn't so much unimportant as stupid

Bad spelling should be accepted (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7546975.stm)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on August 07, 2008, 08:29:06 AM
This isn't so much unimportant as stupid

Bad spelling should be accepted (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7546975.stm)

Hehe, this could only happen in Britain. My generation in particular (which I sadly represent well) has an extremely poor understanding of the formal aspects of the language. English language classes are inadequate and the teachers don't care whether children do well or not, as the grade doesn't hold much weight anyway.

This "solution" is ridiculous. It isn't just concerning spelling - memorising new words and their spellings keep the brain stimulated, it is an example of how education begets education. To say that this part is no longer important brings into question whether education in general is worthwhile. I believe this is called a slippery slope... :P
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: J.Z. Herrenberg on August 07, 2008, 08:51:53 AM
Hehe, this could only happen in Britain. My generation in particular (which I sadly represent well) has an extremely poor understanding of the formal aspects of the language. English language classes are inadequate and the teachers don't care whether children do well or not, as the grade doesn't hold much weight anyway.

This "solution" is ridiculous. It isn't just concerning spelling - memorising new words and their spellings keep the brain stimulated, it is an example of how education begets education. To say that this part is no longer important brings into question whether education in general is worthwhile. I believe this is called a slippery slope... :P

No - the thin end of the wedge (at the end of the day).  :P
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ezodisy on August 08, 2008, 11:19:59 AM
Nigerian advises against 86 wives (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7547148.stm)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: M forever on August 08, 2008, 03:57:01 PM
Hehe, this could only happen in Britain. My generation in particular (which I sadly represent well) has an extremely poor understanding of the formal aspects of the language. English language classes are inadequate and the teachers don't care whether children do well or not, as the grade doesn't hold much weight anyway.

Apparently - demonstrated by the fact that you didn't understand what the article is actually about.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on August 08, 2008, 04:38:11 PM
Apparently

I guess I had that covered with the bracketed part of my second sentence...
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: M forever on August 08, 2008, 05:03:40 PM
You did indeed. The articles doesn't say that random speling should be allowed or even encouraged, it just says that some very common words should be allowed alternative or revised spellings based on the fact that they reflect widespread usage. That actually makes sense, especially for a language whose speliing is so completely outdated as English. Language changes all the time. It's not like the current spelling of English is the "original" and therefore "correct" one. Updating spelling rules can be very difficult and backfire, create confusion and really silly revisions - as we have seen with the German spelling reform - but while the way a language is written down should be standardized for the sake of quality of communication, the written language should not artificially conserve for the sake of conserving; it should be allowed to change with the spoken language it represents.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on August 08, 2008, 06:16:29 PM
You did indeed. The articles doesn't say that random speling should be allowed or even encouraged, it just says that some very common words should be allowed alternative or revised spellings based on the fact that they reflect widespread usage. That actually makes sense, especially for a language whose speliing is so completely outdated as English. Language changes all the time. It's not like the current spelling of English is the "original" and therefore "correct" one. Updating spelling rules can be very difficult and backfire, create confusion and really silly revisions - as we have seen with the German spelling reform - but while the way a language is written down should be standardized for the sake of quality of communication, the written language should not artificially conserve for the sake of conserving; it should be allowed to change with the spoken language it represents.

The issue I have with this is that few will be largely satisfied with which words are changed or not, and people will always misspell things - they will misspell new words too, and if continually "corrected" the language will become even more irrational than it currently is (which for English is saying something). Considering how various different English speaking regions pronounce the language, revising it to intuitively spell in the way it is spoken or thought would involve unideal compromises... IMO there is a difference between changing "musick to "music" versus "ridiculous" to "rediculous", the latter of which is an enormously common mispelling but (to my limited understanding) contrary to conventions of how English words are built...
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: M forever on August 08, 2008, 07:02:27 PM
but (to my limited understanding) contrary to conventions of how English words are built...

What do you mean by that?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on August 08, 2008, 07:09:40 PM
What do you mean by that?

Re meaning "again", ri meaning... er, something else ;D I am a total newb with these things.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: M forever on August 08, 2008, 07:14:44 PM
Ridiculous comes from the Latin adjectiv ridiculus - laughable - from the verb ridere - to laugh.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: BachQ on August 09, 2008, 02:26:07 AM
 

Coast Guard Deems Teens Too Drunk to Be Rescued, Leaves Them on Cliff Ledge
Friday , August 08, 2008
 
British teenagers partying on the ledge of a cliff were left to sober up overnight after rescue crews decided they were too drunk to be rescued, The Daily Telegraph reported.  The teens called the Coast Guard when a friend suffered an epileptic fit near Long Quarry Point, outside Torquay, Devon. Rescuers were not able to airlift all eight boys and girls to safety, due to rainfall and rough terrain.  In the end it was decided to winch the ill teen off the cliff, and leave the rest, whom the Coast Guard described as “under the influence,” where they were.  "It was too dangerous to rescue the seven others because they were rather intoxicated and it would have been too hazardous to take them down to the lifeboat,” Coast Guard watch manager Zoe Boyne told The Telegraph. "This incident has tied up many resources throughout the night. It has also highlighted the dangers of young people putting themselves at risk in locations where they lose control of their actions due to the effects of intoxicating substances."
(http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,400322,00.html)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: greg on August 10, 2008, 05:12:34 AM
You did indeed. The articles doesn't say that random speling should be allowed or even encouraged, it just says that some very common words should be allowed alternative or revised spellings based on the fact that they reflect widespread usage. That actually makes sense, especially for a language whose speliing is so completely outdated as English. Language changes all the time. It's not like the current spelling of English is the "original" and therefore "correct" one. Updating spelling rules can be very difficult and backfire, create confusion and really silly revisions - as we have seen with the German spelling reform - but while the way a language is written down should be standardized for the sake of quality of communication, the written language should not artificially conserve for the sake of conserving; it should be allowed to change with the spoken language it represents.
Didn't I mention something like this and get laughed at....? (although it wasn't you)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Anne on August 16, 2008, 01:52:37 PM
http://news.aol.com/article/egyptian-woman-gives-birth-to-septuplets/136392?icid=200100397x1207789314x1200427284
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: karlhenning on September 02, 2008, 09:36:28 AM
The curse word 'Battlestar Galactica' created (http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/TV/09/02/tv.what.the.frak.ap/index.html)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: greg on September 02, 2008, 01:48:15 PM
The curse word 'Battlestar Galactica' created (http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/TV/09/02/tv.what.the.frak.ap/index.html)
well, I've never heard of "frak"...
Title: FRAC
Post by: pjme on September 04, 2008, 11:02:35 AM
> EMPIRE > UNIFORMES NAPOLEONIENS > GRANDE TENUE DE MARECHAL D'EMPIRE, FRAC, brodée sur toutes les coutures!

"Frac" (cfr. FROCK ): a ceremonial drescoat for men.... ;D...no "k" makes all the difference! But do check wikipedia....

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: karlhenning on September 04, 2008, 11:04:15 AM
well, I've never heard of "frak"...

. . . highlighting the non-importance of this news!  ;D
Title: Re: FRAC
Post by: karlhenning on September 04, 2008, 11:05:20 AM
> EMPIRE > UNIFORMES NAPOLEONIENS > GRANDE TENUE DE MARECHAL D'EMPIRE, FRAC, brodée sur toutes les coutures!

"Frac" (cfr. FROCK ): a ceremonial drescoat for men....

Hey! I'd wear that!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Kullervo on September 04, 2008, 11:07:54 AM
What the frac, Karl.

(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z245/tapiola/michael_jackson.jpg)
Title: Re: FRAC & THRAK
Post by: karlhenning on September 04, 2008, 11:12:44 AM
Quote
Hey! I'd wear that!

While listening to THRAK

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41B7YW0MM6L._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: pjme on September 04, 2008, 11:19:55 AM
And you would be in good company!

(http://www.academie-francaise.fr/images/immortels/portraits/weygand.jpg)

Title: Got milk?
Post by: Wendell_E on September 24, 2008, 09:23:52 AM
PETA Urges Ben & Jerry's To Use Human Milk

Quote
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals sent a letter to Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield, cofounders of Ben & Jerry's Homemade Inc., urging them to replace cow's milk they use in their ice cream products with human breast milk, according to a statement recently released by a PETA spokeswoman.

....

"The fact that human adults consume huge quantities of dairy products made from milk that was meant for a baby cow just doesn't make sense," says PETA Executive Vice President Tracy Reiman. "Everyone knows that 'the breast is best,' so Ben & Jerry's could do consumers and cows a big favor by making the switch to breast milk."

Complete article:  http://www.wptz.com/news/17539127/detail.html
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on September 24, 2008, 10:13:37 AM
When I was in Scotland last week, it was publicised that one police force had been called using the emergency number, by a woman who wanted to complain that the floppy-eared rabbit she had bought via a newspaper advert was defective in that its ears were not as floppy as she had expected. She wanted to know what the police were going to do about it.

Possibly look for their recipe for bunny stew?

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Brewski on September 24, 2008, 10:17:47 AM
When I was in Scotland last week, it was publicised that one police force had been called using the emergency number, by a woman who wanted to complain that the floppy-eared rabbit she had bought via a newspaper advert was defective in that its ears were not as floppy as she had expected. She wanted to know what the police were going to do about it.

Possibly look for their recipe for bunny stew?

Mike

I would love to have heard that telephone conversation... ;D

--Bruce
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on September 24, 2008, 10:38:02 AM
Yes, 'Go and boil yer bunny.'  might have been in there somewhere. The same force in highlighting the abuse of the emergency number also reported that they had two calls within a few minutes from different people complaining that a car had driven past them through a puddle and soaked them.

Into each life a little rain must be sprayed.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on September 24, 2008, 10:45:33 AM
When I was in Scotland last week, it was publicised that one police force had been called using the emergency number, by a woman who wanted to complain that the floppy-eared rabbit she had bought via a newspaper advert was defective in that its ears were not as floppy as she had expected. She wanted to know what the police were going to do about it.

It's a shame that these people can't be fined :P
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on September 24, 2008, 10:54:42 AM
I think a split lip would be more effective.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: karlhenning on September 24, 2008, 10:57:42 AM
Truth squadding floppiness in advertising.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on September 24, 2008, 11:00:17 AM
Well, that is society for you these days, floppyness all round; almost.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on September 25, 2008, 04:32:35 PM
This is absolutely insane :o

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7636577.stm
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: M forever on September 25, 2008, 06:47:07 PM
Indeed. Were they on drugs? Why did they behave like that?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on September 25, 2008, 08:10:48 PM
Indeed. Were they on drugs? Why did they behave like that?

I was wondering the same, but none of the news reports even begin to explain it...
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: J.Z. Herrenberg on September 26, 2008, 01:20:57 AM
I was wondering the same, but none of the news reports even begin to explain it...

I can only imagine they are/were psychotic and were very determined to take their lives. Twins do things together. They can build their own shared delusional reality.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: M forever on September 26, 2008, 07:04:03 PM
So you are saying that all twins are delusional?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: J.Z. Herrenberg on September 26, 2008, 11:09:06 PM
No. I am saying that identical twins can form a unit.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Sorin Eushayson on September 26, 2008, 11:30:28 PM
Here's the key phrase that everyone should have noted: "...twin sisters from Sweden..."  Explains everything!  ;D  Crazy Swedes...  ::)

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Anne on October 01, 2008, 07:18:36 AM
http://video.aol.com/partner/animalplanet/untamed-and-uncut-bull-jumps-into-crowd/d6ea7dd332b58771ede97ef1b00d3b5dba65c860/?icid=VIDURVPET04
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on October 07, 2008, 09:32:18 AM
Tattoo clue led police to thief (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/7656870.stm) (click for video)

A car thief who had his name and date of birth tattooed on his neck was caught after CCTV images of him were used to track him down.

Aarron Evans, 21, pleaded guilty at Bristol Magistrates' Court to breaking into a covert capture car in the city.

The car had been left by Avon and Somerset Police officers with a covert camera concealed inside, which took pictures of Evans.

Evans, an illiterate man of no fixed address, was sentenced to seven months.

Supt Ian Wylie said: "Criminals won't be tolerated in Bristol and we will keep catching them and bringing them before the courts.

"We get such excellent images from these cameras that there is often, and never more so than in this case, no doubt who the criminal is."
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on October 07, 2008, 10:45:35 AM
He only got seven months, so could be out in three and a half. Time enough for his Mum to knit him a balaclava. I suppose with this one there was no point even in having tats of 'left' and 'right' on the appropriate knuckles.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: karlhenning on October 07, 2008, 10:53:14 AM
Quote
A car thief who had his name and date of birth tattooed on his neck . . .

". . . if found, return to this address: . . ."
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on October 07, 2008, 10:53:48 AM
I am impressed that the "Avon and Somerset Police" still haven't changed their name after the country of Avon became defunct in 1996...
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on October 07, 2008, 11:00:12 AM
It is three and a half years since my Government Department changed its name, yet the old name is still on the outside of many of the buildings with public access. Then there are questions about whay the public is unaware of the changed set-up.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Jay F on October 07, 2008, 11:20:02 AM
Minnesota Bars Beat Smoking Ban
By GREGG AAMOT – 22 hours ago

MAPLEWOOD, Minn. (AP) — All the world's a stage at some of Minnesota's bars. A new state ban on smoking in restaurants and other nightspots contains an exception for performers in theatrical productions. So some bars are getting around the ban by printing up playbills, encouraging customers to come in costume, and pronouncing them "actors."  The customers are playing right along, merrily puffing away — and sometimes speaking in funny accents and doing a little improvisation, too.

At The Rock, a hard-rock and heavy-metal bar in suburban St. Paul, the "actors" during "theater night" do little more than sit around, drink, smoke and listen to the earsplitting music.   The smoking ban, passed by the Legislature last year, allows actors to light up in character during theatrical performances as long as patrons are notified in advance. About 30 bars in Minnesota have been exploiting the loophole by staging the faux theater productions and pronouncing cigarettes props, according to an anti-smoking group.



Are we allowed to say "assholes"?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on October 08, 2008, 09:32:50 AM
He only got seven months, so could be out in three and a half. Time enough for his Mum to knit him a balaclava. I suppose with this one there was no point even in having tats of 'left' and 'right' on the appropriate knuckles.

Mike

This guy had already had three custodial sentences THIS YEAR. He clearly needs some alternative encouragement to keep his mitts off other folk's stuff.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: mn dave on October 08, 2008, 09:36:56 AM
Minnesota Bars Beat Smoking Ban
By GREGG AAMOT – 22 hours ago

MAPLEWOOD, Minn. (AP) — All the world's a stage at some of Minnesota's bars. A new state ban on smoking in restaurants and other nightspots contains an exception for performers in theatrical productions. So some bars are getting around the ban by printing up playbills, encouraging customers to come in costume, and pronouncing them "actors."  The customers are playing right along, merrily puffing away — and sometimes speaking in funny accents and doing a little improvisation, too.

At The Rock, a hard-rock and heavy-metal bar in suburban St. Paul, the "actors" during "theater night" do little more than sit around, drink, smoke and listen to the earsplitting music.   The smoking ban, passed by the Legislature last year, allows actors to light up in character during theatrical performances as long as patrons are notified in advance. About 30 bars in Minnesota have been exploiting the loophole by staging the faux theater productions and pronouncing cigarettes props, according to an anti-smoking group.



Genius!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: karlhenning on October 08, 2008, 09:56:19 AM
Are you an actor I've seen playing the circuit, Dave?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: J.Z. Herrenberg on October 08, 2008, 11:15:46 AM
http://news.cnet.com/bank-robber-hires-decoys-on-craigslist-fools-cops/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-5

October 3, 2008 8:13 AM PDT
Bank robber hires decoys on Craigslist, fools cops
Posted by Caroline McCarthy

In an elaborate robbery scheme that's one part The Thomas Crowne Affair and one part Pineapple Express, a crook robbed an armored truck outside a Bank of America branch in Monroe, Wash., by hiring decoys through Craigslist to deter authorities.

It gets better: He then escaped in a creek headed for the Skykomish River in an inner tube, and the cops are still looking for him. "A great amount of money" was taken, Monroe police said, but did not provide a dollar value.

It appears to have unfolded this way: around 11:00 a.m. PDT on Tuesday, the robber, wearing a yellow vest, safety goggles, a blue shirt, and a respirator mask went over to a guard who was overseeing the unloading of cash to the bank from the truck. He sprayed the guard with pepper spray, grabbed his bag of money, and fled the scene.

But here's the hilarious twist. The robber had previously put out a Craigslist ad for road maintenance workers, promising wages of $28.50 per hour. Recruits were asked to wait near the Bank of America right around the time of the robbery--wearing yellow vests, safety goggles, a respirator mask, and preferably a blue shirt. At least a dozen of them showed up after responding to the Craigslist ad.

"I came across the ad that was for a prevailing wage job for $28.50 an hour," one of the unwitting decoys, named Mike, said to the NBC station. As it turns out, they were simply placed there to confuse cops who were looking for a guy wearing a virtually identical outfit.

Authorities eventually found the getaway inner tube (a getaway inner tube!) and suspect that accomplices may have picked up the robber in a boat. According to the NBC affiliate, police hope to track him down by figuring out who posted the Craigslist ad in the first place.

Craigslist founder Craig Newmark was not immediately available for comment.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on October 08, 2008, 12:14:02 PM
Even on a fine thread, this is one of the best. I still don't get though how you escape in an inner tube? How big is it?

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: karlhenning on October 08, 2008, 12:18:43 PM
The key there, Mike, is a rapid stream . . . .
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: mn dave on October 08, 2008, 12:43:27 PM
Are you an actor I've seen playing the circuit, Dave?

Heck no. Maybe next lifetime.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Bulldog on October 08, 2008, 02:58:48 PM
Are we allowed to say "assholes"?

Are you referring to the owners of the bars, the folks smoking in them or the intrusive persons who got the ban passed into law?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: karlhenning on October 08, 2008, 03:58:24 PM
Heck no. Maybe next lifetime.

Thought I saw you fiddling with props in a floor show of a Minnesota bar.

Must have been somebody else  8)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: M forever on October 08, 2008, 10:05:22 PM
Craigslist founder Craig Newmark was not immediately available for comment.

And why should he? Is he responsible for the ad placed by the bank robber? Is he responsible for the idiots who respond to my ad on craigslist looking for a roommate who can't pay the amount of rent I am asking for for a very nice room in a very nice apartment?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: karlhenning on October 09, 2008, 06:05:40 AM
And why should he? Is he responsible for the ad placed by the bank robber? Is he responsible for the idiots who respond to my ad on craigslist looking for a roommate who can't pay the amount of rent I am asking for for a very nice room in a very nice apartment?

Presumably, your business would be legit, M.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on October 09, 2008, 06:31:35 AM
Jorge Ramos said he just wanted to push a fat woman in front of a train. (http://www.typicallyspanish.com/news/publish/article_12821.shtml)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: M forever on October 09, 2008, 10:26:44 AM
Presumably, your business would be legit, M.

But it's not craiglist's fault if people abuse it. I also get a lot of scam emails from people who want to secure the room and send me a cashiers check with more money on it so I am supposed to send the extra money to their travel agent and stupid stuff like that. It even says on craigslist that these kind of scam emails are flying around. I think it also says somewhere in the terms of use that you aren't allowed to use the ads for illegal purposes. So what should the founder have said? "The guy violated the terms of use." Or maybe he even didn't. Posting an ad asking people to come to a street corner in funny outfits is probably not illegal as such.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: karlhenning on October 09, 2008, 10:32:59 AM
But it's not craiglist's fault if people abuse it.

Okay.  All the article said was, that he (the namesake Craig guy) wasn't available for comment.  Right?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on October 24, 2008, 05:30:41 AM
Nebraska law allows abandonment of teens: ‘Safe-havens’ potentially permit parents to drop off kids as old as 19 (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26353351/?GT1=43001)

Awesome
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Keemun on October 24, 2008, 06:34:38 AM
Eight firemen armed with hi-tech rescue equipement in the form of a miniature camera coated in chocolate spent five hours searching in vain for a family's missing hamster. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/3241525/Eight-firemen-use-chocolate-coated-mini-camera-to-find-missing-hamster.html)

Apparently there are no fires to be fought in Scotland, a country of limitless public resources.  ::)

And in case you are interested, the hamster has been recovered (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/scotland/3251396/Hamster-who-evaded-firemen-with-chocolate-camera-is-found-safe-and-well.html).
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on October 26, 2008, 11:56:39 AM
That was not just any old hamster; it was a voter.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Anne on October 26, 2008, 03:28:29 PM
Click on url to see picture of horse.

http://www.neatorama.com/2008/10/20/horse-got-head-stuck-in-tree/


Horse Got Head Stuck in Tree



Gracie the horse got a nasty surprise when curiosity got the better of her and she decided to check out a gap in a tree trunk:

The horse, called Gracie, was unable to free itself and could have been in danger were it not for a passer-by who was able to come to the rescue after he heard the horse whinnying .

Jason Harschbarger, a neighbour in the town of Pullman, West Virginia, USA, arrived at the scene which resembled the image of Winnie the Pooh getting stuck in the honey tree.

Mr Harschbarger collected his tools and was able to carefully set the horse free by using a chainsaw to slowly cut the wood around its neck.

However, before he did so, he was able to take a few photographs.


Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on October 26, 2008, 04:39:23 PM
Hehe I like that one, although it's confusing. I thought that horses were like whales - animals which would freak out if something like a chain saw was put anywhere near them, and they would be killed by the "stress".
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: M forever on October 26, 2008, 06:41:26 PM
You probably overlooked the fact that horses were used by humans in battle for many millenia - with great success, despite all the noise and horror and sharp objects (not necessarily chain saws, but similarly nasty tools of maiming and destruction), so they aren't quite the sissies as which you portray them here  :D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on October 26, 2008, 06:45:32 PM
You probably overlooked the fact that horses were used by humans in battle for many millenia - with great success, despite all the noise and horror and sharp objects (not necessarily chain saws, but similarly nasty tools of maiming and destruction), so they aren't quite the sissies as which you portray them here  :D

Hehe I guess so - I just remember reading things about rescues of the things when they fall into rivers/sewers, about the effort the rescuers have to put in to avoiding "stressing them out". But I guess a loud noise is different from being moved around with a crane 0:)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ezodisy on November 07, 2008, 09:38:08 AM
Not really unimportant, just wanted to point out how they analysed the picture

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7715458.stm
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: BachQ on November 12, 2008, 09:37:59 AM
Wife killed by husband's flying coffin
A Brazilian woman has died after being struck by her husband's coffin when the hearse they were travelling in was involved in a car crash.
 
Last Updated: 2:05PM GMT 12 Nov 2008

(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01112/coffin_1112690c.jpg)

The 67-year-old woman was on the way to the cemetery to bury her husband, who had died the day before.  The hearse was struck from behind by a speeding car, police said.  The coffin slammed into the head of the woman, who was sitting in the passenger seat of the hearse, breaking her neck and killing her instantly, according to officers.

Marciana Silva Barcelos and her family were on the way to a cemetery in the town of Alvorada in the southern state of Rio Grande do Sul, for the funeral of her partner, Josi Silveira Coimbra.  The 76-year-old man had died of a heart attack on Sunday after attending a dance.  Following the accident, the driver of the Alfa Romeo was trapped for around 50 minutes in the wreckage and was taken to hospital where he was put under observation.  The driver of the hearse and a son of the dead man, who was also travelling in the hearse, were treated for minor injuries.


LINK

 (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/3446524/Brazilian-woman-killed-by-husbands-coffin.html)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: karlhenning on November 12, 2008, 09:44:13 AM
What a d minor event was there . . . .
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on November 14, 2008, 01:00:18 PM

From The TimesNovember 14, 2008

"Second Life affair leads to real-life divorce for David Pollard, aka Dave Barmy
A couple have divorced after the husband was caught having a “virtual affair” with a female character in an online game."

This is my favourite bit of a bizarre story.........

"Ms Taylor's suspicions were aroused in 2007 and she hired a Second Life private investigator. The virtual sleuth, called Markie MacDonald, caught Dave Barmy in flagrante and he apologised to his online and real world wives.

Ms Taylor said: “It has been a very difficult time. I am now just trying to move on with my life.""

http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/relationships/article5151126.ece

Mike


Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ezodisy on November 14, 2008, 01:16:13 PM
From The TimesNovember 14, 2008

"Second Life affair leads to real-life divorce for David Pollard, aka Dave Barmy
A couple have divorced after the husband was caught having a “virtual affair” with a female character in an online game."

This is my favourite bit of a bizarre story.........

"Ms Taylor's suspicions were aroused in 2007 and she hired a Second Life private investigator. The virtual sleuth, called Markie MacDonald, caught Dave Barmy in flagrante and he apologised to his online and real world wives.

Ms Taylor said: “It has been a very difficult time. I am now just trying to move on with my life.""

http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/relationships/article5151126.ece

Mike

Quote
How do avatars have sex?

Quote
THE ANSWER
First characters need to buy genitals

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7729207.stm
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on November 14, 2008, 01:24:01 PM
Every day I learn something; though not always something I want to learn about.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Anne on November 14, 2008, 02:41:23 PM
Why You Should Never Try to Steal a Law Student's Laptop
by Dan Reilly, posted Nov 14th 2008 at 2:41PM

A thief learned the mistake of trying to steal a law student's laptop last week after after becoming a punching bag for an Arizona State student he tried to rip off. Armed with a baseball bat, the intruder, Gabriel Saucedo, allegedly climbed through an open window into Alex Botsios' apartment, waking the student and threatening to smash his head in.


Botsios was willing to let Saucedo take his wallet and guitars. Then the robber made the mistake that ultimately landed him in the hospital -- he went for the laptop. According to Botsios, he said "Dude, no -- please, no! I have all my case notes...that's four months of work!" Saucedo, obviously underestimating the fury of an overstressed, overworked first-year, was unsympathetic. That's when Botsios could take no more.

Wrestling Saucdeo to the floor, Botsios separated the bat from the thief and repeatedly punched him in the face. When it was all over, police had to get Saucedo stitched up before charging him with armed robbery and kidnapping, while Botsios only suffered some scrapes and a bruised knuckle. Most importantly, at least to the student, is that his laptop, which he called "his baby," escaped unharmed. Next time, Saucedo might want to try robbing a third-year student, as they're generally more docile. [From: KTAR.com]
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ezodisy on November 14, 2008, 04:18:53 PM
A manhunt is under way in western Germany for a convicted drug dealer who escaped by mailing himself out of jail. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7730018.stm)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: karlhenning on November 19, 2008, 09:49:08 AM
Police haven't said what type of sandwich was involved. (http://www.ajc.com/news/content/shared-gen/ap/Feature_Stories/ODD_Sandwich_Assault.html)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: karlhenning on November 20, 2008, 11:08:08 AM
This is the AP, not The Onion

Car impounded after dog drives away from car wash (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/06/AR2008110603210.html)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: mn dave on November 20, 2008, 11:09:47 AM
This is the AP, not The Onion

Car impounded after dog drives away from car wash (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/06/AR2008110603210.html)

Well, it beats chasing them.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: karlhenning on November 21, 2008, 07:34:53 AM
Wal-Mart Names Duke as Next Chief Executive

Dang! Duke is a name, not a title, I guess . . . .
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: karlhenning on November 21, 2008, 07:35:32 AM
Nor a nickname, as in, Wal-Mart Posthumously Names Jn Wayne as Next Chief Executive
Title: Working for the minister
Post by: knight66 on November 22, 2008, 08:48:03 AM
In a leaked 11-page document issued to civil servants, called Working with Liam Byrne, the 38-year-old spells out exactly how he expects to be treated.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/nov/17/liam-byrne-minister-diva-news

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on November 22, 2008, 08:51:08 AM
Australian navy to get two-month paid Christmas holiday Shutdown

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/18/australia

Seemingly; there will be an attempt to explore the concept of working from home!

Mike

Title: Re: Working for the minister
Post by: Dundonnell on November 22, 2008, 08:53:32 AM
In a leaked 11-page document issued to civil servants, called Working with Liam Byrne, the 38-year-old spells out exactly how he expects to be treated.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/nov/17/liam-byrne-minister-diva-news

Mike

Someone should empty the soup over his bald head >:(
Title: Re: Working for the minister
Post by: J.Z. Herrenberg on November 22, 2008, 09:34:30 AM
Someone should empty the soup over his bald head >:(

 ;D My sentiments exactly!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ezodisy on November 22, 2008, 12:03:41 PM
Quote
"Coffee/Lunch. I'm addicted to coffee. I like a cappuccino when I come in, an espresso at 3pm and soup at 12.30-1pm."

That sounds a lot like me. Cappuccino before 8. Espresso after soup. Another by 4. One in the evening. I don't see anything wrong with that.

Quote
"Never put anything to me unless you understand it and can explain it to me in 60 seconds,"

Quite right.

Quote
"If I see things that are not of acceptable quality, I will blame you."

Absolutely, though these days poor quality is so common and widespread that instead of blame one just has to shrug one's shoulders.

Quote
"I am often not very clear or my writing is illegible," he says. "If I'm in the middle of thinking about something, I might ask you to come back - don't be put off by this."

Sounds like a smart and self-understanding chap.

The only thing wrong with all this is that he actually put it all together, published it and handed it out. That is just silly, smug and pedantic.

Never trust someone who points at you with his or her fingers.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on November 23, 2008, 07:27:14 PM
Girl, 15, Faces Child Porn Charges for Nude Cell Phone Pictures of Herself (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,434645,00.html)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ezodisy on November 28, 2008, 09:42:10 PM
A court in Iran has ruled that a man who blinded a woman with acid after she spurned his marriage proposals will also be blinded with acid. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7754756.stm)

sounds about right to me
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on November 29, 2008, 12:50:47 AM
Eye for an eye can be morbidly amusing sometimes.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ezodisy on December 05, 2008, 02:45:57 AM
interesting new theatre. UK video only (I think): http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7766441.stm
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ezodisy on December 09, 2008, 01:39:35 AM
Ban on tobacco displays announced

The open display of tobacco in shops is to be banned in England and Wales, the government has announced
 (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7771210.stm)

You know the government makes billions upon billions of pounds from the sale of tobacco and cigarettes each year, most of the NHS is probably funded this way, yet they keep putting on a show as if they actually care, and are doing the "right" thing to help people. The "right" thing never involves dictating how someone else should live. This isn't a case of stopping someone from doing something because it's harming someone else--if they cared, they could always do something about the drug dealers who are all over the place; it's a case of some passive-aggressive nitwit at a desk somewhere who has no imagination and is bent on the most pathetic sort of revenge or retribution dressed up as an act to help young people. Why do people always want to make other people just like themselves? Or more accurately: why do miserable, unintelligent people always want to make other people just like themselves? You know what the problem with these people is? They lack self-disgust, which of course means that they lack self-awareness. One critical eye over their own lives and they might understand just how horrible and horrifying they are.

But it ain't gonna happen.

Good idea: no smoking in restaurants

Bad idea: no smoking in pubs and cafes, putting pictures of diseased lungs on packs of tobacco, driving the product underground

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Harry on December 09, 2008, 01:43:27 AM
Its a excellent idea idea that this sick behavior like smoking is stopped.
Everywhere!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ezodisy on December 09, 2008, 01:45:05 AM
lol! point proven. thanks
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on December 09, 2008, 05:28:58 AM
It's funny to keep being reminded what cowards terrorists are. Almost every one that has been caught in the UK has denied their crimes and used very weak excuses to try to use the legal system against the population and get off free. There is currently another bunch using the same defence of "we wanted to scare people, not blow them up". Unfortunately they know so little about the countries they would like to destroy that they are unaware how effective these legal systems are at convicting people like them. Amazing how unprincipled these nutcases are, but at least they will be having a miserable time in jails full of people who hate them.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: karlhenning on December 09, 2008, 05:29:44 AM
Good idea: no smoking in restaurants

Bad idea: no smoking in pubs and cafes [snip]

My opinion, of course, but these both actually seem like good ideas to me, and I'm not sure why there would be a moral divide between these.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ezodisy on December 09, 2008, 07:19:14 AM
My opinion, of course, but these both actually seem like good ideas to me, and I'm not sure why there would be a moral divide between these.

well not even smokers smoke when they eat. That is the point. Cafes and particularly pubs are places to relax though. Obviously non-smokers won't feel too relaxed in a smoky place, but you don't drink alcohol for your health, do you? Unlike the US, I don't think the UK ever really went in for that idea of smoking/non-smoking sections, which makes the sudden move to non-smoking entirely seem a bit daft.

There's a picture of a needle and a message "Smoking is highly addictive, don't start" on a pack of Drum I bought, like anyone who buys it is a narco man or some such rubbish. It cost £5, most of which is tax. In France I can buy the same pack with more than 50% extra for just 6 Euros. Something's not right
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on December 09, 2008, 07:28:32 AM
There's a picture of a needle and a message "Smoking is highly addictive, don't start" on a pack of Drum I bought, like anyone who buys it is a narco man or some such rubbish

Well, to be fair, quite a few narco men do less damage to themselves than smokers.

(http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/1521/animation1sg9.gif)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: mn dave on December 09, 2008, 07:29:03 AM
People still smoke?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: karlhenning on December 09, 2008, 07:31:59 AM
For a bit, after they've tamped themselves down.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ezodisy on December 09, 2008, 07:36:19 AM
Well, to be fair, quite a few narco men do less damage to themselves than smokers.

(http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/1521/animation1sg9.gif)

That's a cool chart. What is Khat? Never heard of it.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/34/Khat_picnic_in_Yemen.jpg)

"A khat picnic in a cave in the mountains near Khulan, Yemen."

lol
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: karlhenning on December 09, 2008, 07:41:01 AM
Izh that Khat Shtevens?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on December 09, 2008, 07:41:20 AM
That's a cool chart. What is Khat? Never heard of it.

It is interesting indeed - I first heard about it on local TV news because of some ethnic population in Bristol using it, and "blah blah controversy", etc. I see that Wikipedia says most EU countries and the US have made it illegal, but Britain hasn't, making us a hub for the export of illegal "khat". Awesome!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Christo on December 11, 2008, 10:39:28 PM
Izh that Khat Shtevens?

No. Yusuf Islam (http://www.yusufislam.org.uk/) appears to be a non-chewer.  ::)

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: karlhenning on December 12, 2008, 05:45:26 AM
No ruminant, he!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Christo on December 12, 2008, 05:52:37 AM
No ruminant, he!

 :D  (had to look it up in the dictionary   :-\ )
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ezodisy on December 14, 2008, 12:19:20 PM
great reactive duck by the old prez, shows he's still got the spice for it

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7782422.stm
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ezodisy on December 15, 2008, 03:23:41 AM
HA HA HA HA!!!!

he knows how to bring in the punters!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=UfIY24BErBE
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on December 27, 2008, 04:01:17 PM
Festive goat up in flames again (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7801156.stm)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Anne on December 31, 2008, 06:16:37 PM
http://news.aol.com/article/woman-88-puts-the-squeeze-on-intruder/290340?icid=200100397x1215430506x1201041899
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on January 02, 2009, 01:59:55 AM
Dick by name and Dick by nature.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ezodisy on January 03, 2009, 06:40:55 AM
The 2009 Bunny Suicides calendar has been released.

http://www.teneues.com/teneuesshop/teNeues~Bunny+Suicides+2009_Andy+Riley~ISBN_3-8327-2812-0.htm

It's a great little thing this, drawings by a Brit of a poor rabbit trying to creatively maul himself. I found the 2008 version in Venice last year and it makes for an excellent gift
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Novi on January 03, 2009, 01:45:10 PM
The 2009 Bunny Suicides calendar has been released.

http://www.teneues.com/teneuesshop/teNeues~Bunny+Suicides+2009_Andy+Riley~ISBN_3-8327-2812-0.htm

It's a great little thing this, drawings by a Brit of a poor rabbit trying to creatively maul himself. I found the 2008 version in Venice last year and it makes for an excellent gift

Cool! I love the bunny suicides.

One of my favourites ...

(http://www.ntoddblog.org/photos/random_pics/nazibunnysuicide.jpg)


And more unimportant news:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/jan/03/burglar-surprised-thor-god-thunder
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ezodisy on January 03, 2009, 03:09:37 PM
lol! Where does that one come from? I only found out about this stuff by chance, is there a whole comic series about it?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Novi on January 05, 2009, 12:51:32 PM
lol! Where does that one come from? I only found out about this stuff by chance, is there a whole comic series about it?

There are a couple of useless-Christmas-stocking-stuffer kind of books, I think. Some are hilarious, some in glorious bad taste, and others not so funny.

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/kellebelles13/024.jpg)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Renfield on January 05, 2009, 03:49:30 PM
And more unimportant news:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/jan/03/burglar-surprised-thor-god-thunder

I actually saw that fellow, in the street party! I even distinctly recall being quite impressed by the costume. :D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on January 06, 2009, 05:29:12 AM
I giggle over this furore over Steve Jobs' health - o noes, will the personality cult survive? More proof that Apple is difficult to distinguish from Stalinism 0:)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ezodisy on January 06, 2009, 05:50:57 AM
More proof that Apple is difficult to distinguish from Stalinism 0:)

lol!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ezodisy on January 20, 2009, 02:50:21 AM
Sex smell lures 'vampire' to doom  (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7838850.stm)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ezodisy on January 21, 2009, 12:34:32 PM
'Polite' Britons died on Titanic  (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7843154.stm)

"There was one gentleman who was rather wealthy... who went back downstairs after he put his wife on the [life] boat... put on his tuxedo...went back upstairs and smoked... with the idea that if I am going die, I may as well die as a gentleman and well-dressed."
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ezodisy on January 23, 2009, 08:32:16 AM
i don't know where to post this but had to get it up somewhere. those are some sunglasses. an actor from Slumdog Millionaire

(http://www.bbc.co.uk/shropshire/content/images/2007/07/20/iifa_gallery_05_470x320.jpg)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: greg on January 24, 2009, 05:48:54 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7729207.stm
Quote

Some Second Lifers have been known to misbehave - a US journalist was attacked by flying penises when conducting an interview in his virtual office.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: маразм1 on February 03, 2009, 08:17:09 AM
http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/fromcomments/278448.php

Another superbowl incident!  I think it's absolutely hilarious, whoever did this.  ha ha ha!

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: J.Z. Herrenberg on February 03, 2009, 08:50:43 AM
http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/fromcomments/278448.php

Another superbowl incident!  I think it's absolutely hilarious, whoever did this.  ha ha ha!

Very funny. Though I think Comcast should be spelled differently in the light of this mishap.  0:)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Dr. Dread on February 25, 2009, 01:23:21 PM
BANGKOK, Thailand - The fossilized remains of two pregnant fish indicate that sex as we know it - fertilization of eggs inside a female - took place as much as 30 million years earlier than previously thought, researchers said Thursday.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ezodisy on March 04, 2009, 02:43:31 PM
you see that clip of Brown speaking in the US?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7922426.stm

it's pretty scary. He certainly isnt' speaking for me.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Bulldog on March 04, 2009, 02:47:40 PM
you see that clip of Brown speaking in the US?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7922426.stm

it's pretty scary. He certainly isnt' speaking for me.

All he did was reconfirm the excellent partnership between the two countries.  AND NO POWER ON EARTH CAN DESTROY IT!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on March 04, 2009, 02:54:44 PM
you see that clip of Brown speaking in the US?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7922426.stm

it's pretty scary. He certainly isnt' speaking for me.

It seemed kind of desperate in a way that didn't happen with Blair, as, like all good con-men, Blair believed his own story.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on March 04, 2009, 03:00:50 PM
What is scary about it? It is just the usual political rhetoric.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ezodisy on March 05, 2009, 12:23:57 AM
AND NO POWER ON EARTH CAN DESTROY IT!

lol! I think it's the sense of near desperation which Lethe pointed out, that didn't seem usual at all. I know he wanted to make a strong impression but it almost sounded like he was pleading. I guess it's all those years of being Blair's bitch that makes him want to be the US's now  ::)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on March 05, 2009, 12:30:18 AM
He is not a great speech maker, he often hits the wrong note. Those words said in a different way might have produced a different, though no more favourable, reaction. He has a tendency to over emphasise and that was always evident when he was Chancellor. The Big Clunking Fist. But it was just what I said it was, nothing different. I am never clear who this guff is really for. It certainly was not scary.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ezodisy on March 05, 2009, 12:45:35 AM
Well it certainly was scary if you don't want to be tied to someone you feel is running out of control. Unfortunately the UK doesn't really have a leader right now and it certainly doesn't have a leader in waiting. We're a country of bitches :(
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ezodisy on March 05, 2009, 12:53:46 AM
look at this picture of him, he looks positively evil. lol

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/05/gordon-brown-congress-world-crisis
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Peregrine on March 05, 2009, 01:15:03 AM
We're a country of bitches :(

Speak for yourself, darling...
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ezodisy on March 05, 2009, 01:32:30 AM
lol!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on March 05, 2009, 10:19:43 AM
Speak for yourself, darling...

Quite.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ezodisy on March 05, 2009, 10:40:19 AM
lol! It's not a nice thing to admit, but when your government is taking on record amounts of debt and starting to print ridiculous amounts of money all without having any resources (no gold, soon no oil) or anything to sell, then basically you're a bitch. It's unfortunate but true.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on March 05, 2009, 11:03:15 AM
What is the definition of a bitch in your context? How are you acting now you are a bitch?

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ezodisy on March 05, 2009, 12:06:42 PM
my definition is of course the same definition as that known from building sights to top level offices -- one who serves another. That is precisely what the UK will become as it relies on everyone else around it for everything from food to clothes to cars and everything else. The one saving grace we had--not joining the Euro--is more or less debased now as we switch on the printing press. Anyway whatever. I am not here to tell English people what they're becoming. They'll see it for themselves as we become hopelessly dependent over the next 10 years.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on March 07, 2009, 06:36:02 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4073353.stm

Obviously, I am very proud.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on March 12, 2009, 03:09:14 AM
'Sausage-pony' prompts 999 calls (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/7939187.stm)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Est.1965 on March 12, 2009, 03:16:01 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4073353.stm

Obviously, I am very proud.

Mike

Me too.  Scotland quite righly has a big hold of the Elephant culture.  I'll be taking a trunk route to the ivories of India to see some myself.
***GROAN***
         :-X
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: BachQ on March 12, 2009, 04:27:41 AM
'Sausage-pony' prompts 999 calls (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/7939187.stm)

 :D

(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45559000/jpg/_45559426_-1.jpg)

Mayflower, a pony with short legs and a long body has caused numerous people to call the emergency services in the mistaken belief she is stuck in the mud.  Her owner is now considering erecting signs advising passers-by.  Rescue specialist Anton Phillips said Mayflower could appear to be stuck in mud as she was half the height of other nearby ponies.  "We have been called out several times for the animal now and it is getting a bit ridiculous."  :D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Dr. Dread on March 12, 2009, 04:31:03 AM
'Sausage-pony' prompts 999 calls (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/7939187.stm)

Must resist...one-liner...
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: karlhenning on March 12, 2009, 04:46:46 AM
Dachspferd
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Dr. Dread on March 14, 2009, 08:50:47 AM
The children of the night! What music they GAK! (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Vampire-Remains-Found-In-Venice-Italy-Has-Brick-Jammed-In-Her-Mouth/Article/200903215240705?lpos=World_News_Second_Home_Page_Article_Teaser_Region_4&lid=ARTICLE_15240705_Vampire_Remains_Found_In_Venice%2C_Italy%2C_Has_Brick_Jammed_In_Her_Mouth)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on March 25, 2009, 04:42:03 AM
Dead girl given truancy warning (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7963081.stm)

The parents of a girl who died suddenly have received a school letter demanding she improves her attendance.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: greg on March 25, 2009, 03:10:49 PM
:D

(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45559000/jpg/_45559426_-1.jpg)

Mayflower, a pony with short legs and a long body has caused numerous people to call the emergency services in the mistaken belief she is stuck in the mud.  Her owner is now considering erecting signs advising passers-by.  Rescue specialist Anton Phillips said Mayflower could appear to be stuck in mud as she was half the height of other nearby ponies.  "We have been called out several times for the animal now and it is getting a bit ridiculous."  :D
Ha...
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Benji on April 03, 2009, 05:16:00 PM
Runaway scooter carries off woman (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cornwall/7981904.stm)

 ;D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on April 04, 2009, 12:59:03 AM
Poor old soul....certainly funny in a way for those not involved. My MIL has one of these charriots, but she has refused to use it for some time, she is convinced it will tip up at some point when she trying to go onto a pavement.

I bet the community officer wanted a paper bag over his head as he rode it back!

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Benji on April 04, 2009, 04:28:34 AM
Poor old soul....certainly funny in a way for those not involved. My MIL has one of these charriots, but she has refused to use it for some time, she is convinced it will tip up at some point when she trying to go onto a pavement.

I bet the community officer wanted a paper bag over his head as he rode it back!

Mike

The writer of the BBC News article seems to be struggling to contain their mirth  ;D

On a related note:

http://www.youtube.com/v/pdDhW9Lwepc
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on April 04, 2009, 08:02:09 AM
A member of the Morningside Chapter of Hell's Grannies.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Benji on April 04, 2009, 10:34:07 AM
A member of the Morningside Chapter of Hell's Grannies.

Mike

 ;D

Here they are interacting with the locals in the Meadows...

(http://www.intriguing.com/mp/_pictures/compdiff/hellgr1.jpg)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on April 04, 2009, 10:39:23 AM
Going for a tramp in the woods.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Benji on April 04, 2009, 11:23:05 AM
Going for a tramp in the woods.

Mike

A caption competion winner if ever there was one!  :D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on April 04, 2009, 11:47:54 AM
Sometimes the oldies remain goldies. I ought to add some minor news to this, one of my favourite threads....off to search.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Dr. Dread on April 28, 2009, 05:33:02 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/kent/8021407.stm

 :)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on April 29, 2009, 01:27:32 AM
Sucks to be allergic to cats and in need of books when in Kent... 0:)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on September 06, 2009, 11:37:17 AM
Japan's next first lady says she rode spaceship (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32659678/ns/world_news-asiapacific/?gt1=43001)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Harpo on September 06, 2009, 12:47:07 PM
:D

(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45559000/jpg/_45559426_-1.jpg)

Mayflower, a pony with short legs and a long body has caused numerous people to call the emergency services in the mistaken belief she is stuck in the mud.  

Wow! Where can I buy one? We have been taking horseback riding lessons and I think that such a steed would lessen my fear of falling off.  :)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on September 24, 2009, 02:02:42 PM
“In the hotel I had a visit from the police, who said that the carpet was state property and confiscated it.

I didn’t know that it belonged to Goebbels!” (http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/bild-english/celebrity-gossip/2009/09/21/bizarre-nazi-tapestry-tale/folk-singer-costas-cordalis-had-goebbels-rug-for-25-years.html)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: маразм1 on December 02, 2009, 09:42:38 AM
http://features.csmonitor.com/innovation/2009/12/02/man-marries-video-game-girlfriend/ 

Man marries vidogame character.  Only in Japan....freaking crazy nutjobs. 
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: karlhenning on December 02, 2009, 09:56:51 AM
Hello, Kitty!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on December 03, 2009, 10:27:15 AM
The groom uses a hand held system; now there's a surprise.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: маразм1 on December 03, 2009, 02:01:17 PM
(http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/epic-fail-date-fail.jpg)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: MN Dave on December 14, 2009, 12:35:56 PM
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/the-50-funniest-headlines-of-2009
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on March 19, 2010, 09:55:23 AM
Try this for size!

http://uk.autoblog.com/2010/03/19/probe-launched-following-lorry-and-clio-shunt-video/?icid=main
Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Papy Oli on March 19, 2010, 11:19:01 AM
Try this for size!

http://uk.autoblog.com/2010/03/19/probe-launched-following-lorry-and-clio-shunt-video/?icid=main
Mike

funnily enough the lorry doesn't have one of those "how is my driving ? " sticker...   :P
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on March 19, 2010, 01:37:33 PM
Amazing that the car driver was OK. I assume it was such a small car that the lorry driver could not see it once it was sideways on, but he must have been inattentive as the event unrolled.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Peregrine on March 19, 2010, 02:02:11 PM
MAN USED PENIS TO ASSAULT FEMALE POLICE OFFICER

http://bit.ly/aNIHcT

  :-X
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on March 19, 2010, 02:06:25 PM
It reads as though the thing was detachable.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Peregrine on March 19, 2010, 02:12:47 PM
It reads as though the thing was detachable.

 ;D

"Marium Varinauskas, 28, tried to strike the officer on the head with his penis when she was called out to his flat........................but she got out of the way."

and

"The accused got to his feet and was standing over the police officer exposing his penis and thrusting it in her face, forcing her to take evasive action to avoid getting struck."

Would love to have been in court hearing the Prosecution reading that lot out!

 ;D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on March 19, 2010, 02:19:02 PM
In a PM Gurn connected me to this story several days ago. This was mainly to suggest that Scots generaly bahave like this. Of course, they don't. Real Scots don't wear underpants.

There is a quote from a Scottish aristo in Victorian Scotland who wrote to his son when he was told that in India his son had contracted VD. 'No doubt you have been flourishing your genitals above what nature requires.'

I used to know someone in Glasgow who was a duty solicitor acting on a rota basis for those who were arrested. Sometimes he was handed an absolutely no possible win case. One such was a drunk who happened upon a police car where the doors were open; as the police had dashed out of the car to deal with an urgent incident. They saw him from a distance swaying, holding himself upright against the car and then pissing like a horse, (10 pints of lager no doubt), all over the driver's seat. Now...what defense do you concoct for that?

Me'Laud, my client was so drunk, that seeing this large metal object, he thought it was one of the on-street urinals and that he was fortunate he had not had to pay to get the door to open.....That did not wash with me'Laud.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Peregrine on March 19, 2010, 02:43:23 PM
I used to know someone in Glasgow who was a duty solicitor acting on a rota basis for those who were arrested. Sometimes he was handed an absolutely no possible win case. One such was a drunk who happened upon a police car where the doors were open; as the police had dashed out of the car to deal with an urgent incident. They saw him from a distance swaying, holding himself upright against the car and then pissing like a horse, (10 pints of lager no doubt), all over the driver's seat. Now...what defense do you concoct for that?

Me'Laud, my client was so drunk, that seeing this large metal object, he thought it was one of the on-street urinals and that he was fortunate he had not had to pay to get the door to open.....That did not wash with me'Laud.

Haha!

Reminds me of a night back in my student days in London. Out on the razzle with my mate, Dunc, pissed as farts the pair of us....Dunc decides to pick up one of those newspaper boards outside of a newsagent and chuck it in the road. stupid, obviously, but lands slap bang in front of a squad car. Two burly officers step out of the car and Dunc stands there, hands on hips, as cocksure as you like and asks proudly, "What's the charge, Sarge?!!"

Next thing he knows he's banged up for the night and in front of the District Judge the following morning for being D(r)unc and disorderly...silly boy, but we do chickle about it now!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: greg on March 19, 2010, 06:39:55 PM
http://features.csmonitor.com/innovation/2009/12/02/man-marries-video-game-girlfriend/ 

Man marries vidogame character.  Only in Japan....freaking crazy nutjobs.
I think I saw this on TV once, but it was only the last few minutes of a show I missed. Doesn't make any sense...  ???
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on March 22, 2010, 06:11:22 AM
Hunt for Worthing "poo thief" (http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/5051683.Hunt_for_Worthing__poo_thief_/?ref=twt&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

"...perhaps thinking that there was something of value inside." ;D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on March 22, 2010, 12:59:24 PM
Where there's muck, there's brass.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on April 06, 2010, 12:27:17 PM
'Two women arrested on suspicion of trying to smuggle a dead relative out of Liverpool's John Lennon airportTwo women arrested on suspicion of allegedly trying to smuggle a dead relative on to a flight to Germany have insisted they are innocent.
Gitta Jarant and her daughter Anke Anusic were arrested at Liverpool John Lennon Airport on Saturday when it transpired Kurt Willi Jarant, 91, was dead.
Mr Jarant, known as Willi, was in a wheelchair and wearing sunglasses when officials checked his pulse and found no life.
Mrs Jarant, 66, and Mrs Anusic were due to board a flight to Berlin with several others when police swooped to arrest them on suspicion of failing to give notification of death.'

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: karlhenning on April 07, 2010, 04:50:19 AM
I have no quarrel with Liverpool wishing to honor a famous son . . . the idea of John Lennon's name on an airport strikes me as somehow a mild dissonance.

Just my trip, let us say.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Scarpia on April 07, 2010, 12:25:35 PM
General motors only lost 4.3 billion this quartet.   According to the New York Times, this is a good sign.   ???
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Wendell_E on April 08, 2010, 02:40:30 AM
I have no quarrel with Liverpool wishing to honor a famous son . . . the idea of John Lennon's name on an airport strikes me as somehow a mild dissonance.

Just my trip, let us say.


I did a double take when I heard that one, too.  On the other hand, I'd sign a petition to change Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport to John Philip Sousa Washington National Airport.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on April 09, 2010, 05:32:56 AM
Here is a follow-up to the Lennon Airport Gig

A man found dead when two relatives allegedly tried to smuggle him on to a flight to Germany had died up to 12 hours earlier of natural causes, police said.
Gitta Jarant and her daughter Anke Anusic were arrested at Liverpool John Lennon Airport last Saturday when it transpired Kurt Willi Jarant, 91, was dead.

Mr Jarant, known as Willi, was in a wheelchair and wearing sunglasses when officials checked his pulse and found no life.
A spokesman for Greater Manchester Police said: "A Home Office post-mortem examination concluded the man died of natural causes. Blood samples have also been sent off for further tests.
"The pathologist also concluded the death occurred up to 12 hours before he was pronounced dead.
"The two women arrested on suspicion of failing to give notification of death remain on bail until June."
Mrs Jarant, 66, and Mrs Anusic, 41, were due to board a flight to Berlin with several others when police swooped to arrest them on suspicion of failing to give notification of death.
The women deny claims that Mr Jarant, a German national, had already been dead for some time and they had managed to ferry him from their home in Oldham, Greater Manchester, by taxi.
The pair said that, when they arrived at the airport, two employees brought a wheelchair to the taxi and helped the Alzheimer's sufferer out.
They told officials he was asleep because they really thought he was, the pair said earlier this week.'

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on April 23, 2010, 09:05:53 PM
This man got a three year driving ban.

'As a means of transportation it left something to be desired in terms of comfort and street cred.
And when police asked the driver to pull over, the Barbie car, with its top speed of 4mph, was hopeless as a getaway vehicle.
Paul Hutton, 40, is regretting his impromptu roadtrip after he was arrested for drink-driving.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1267136/Father-banned-driving-getting-wheel-toy-Barbie-car-drunk.html#ixzz0lzkfqzne


Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on June 15, 2010, 06:53:21 AM
A matador has been fined after running away from a bull and leaping over the arena wall.
Christian Hernandez was arrested after Sunday's botched bullfight at the Plaza Mexico in Mexico City, apparently for breach of contract, local media reported.
He was released after paying the fine.
More News
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"There are some things you must be aware of about yourself," the 22-year-old Mexican matador said in a television interview.
"I didn't have the ability, I didn't have the balls, this is not my thing."
In a sight rarely seen in the bravado world of bullfighting, Hernandez made a spin with his red cape at the charging bull, then ran across the ring and leapt headlong over the wall to safety, dropping his cape in the process. The crowd hooted in derision.
Several months ago, another bull seriously gored Hernandez in the leg.
Officials did briefly convince Hernandez to return to the ring, where he put his hands over his head and pointed upward before he made a second exit, shaking his head.
He later said he would retire from bullfighting.

http://news.aol.co.uk/world-news/matador-fined-after-running-away/article/20100615081615183884014

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on July 22, 2010, 01:33:40 PM
I did not see the programme, but the review indicates something very strange indeed. Modern life; the rich at play.

Quote from today's Guardian Newspaper....

'Series: Last night's TVPrevious | Index TV review: My Weird and Wonderful FamilyGay dads fathering identical twins, one four years older than the other. Complicated? You bet
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Sam Wollaston The Guardian, Thursday 22 July 2010 Article history
Barrie (left) and Tony with Saffron and Aspen. Photograph: Christopher Thomond for the Guardian
 
The family in My Weird and Wonderful Family (Channel 4) took a bit of getting my head around. They're more of an unclear family than a nuclear one. So there are gay dads Tony and Barrie. That's easy enough. And they have three kids – Saffron, Aspen and Orlando. Fine. The complicated bit is how these children came about, and I was quite relieved that even the kids themselves seem a bit muddled about it. Saffron says she's Aspen's twin sister, and the evidence certainly points that way – they came out of the same woman, at around about the same time.

They didn't get in there in the traditional way, though, as she wasn't their mum, but a surrogate. Their biological mother was an egg donor, chosen for her looks and her brain; one of them was fathered by Tony, and the other by Barrie. I don't think the kids have been told who's whose (we're not, anyway). To all of them, Tony is Dad and Barrie is Daddy, or possibly it's the other way around. What does that make Saffron and Aspen? Half-twins?

It gets more complicated. Because Aspen's egg split, and one half was put on ice, to be used later. So Aspen and Orlando are actually identical twins, even though Aspen is four years older. Orlando will always know what he's going to look like in four years' time: when he looks at his older brother, he is kind of looking into his own future. Freaky. Orlando says that if it hadn't been for Tony and Barrie, then he would have been a crocodile, but I don't think that's right. The three kids cost £250,000 to make.

With me so far? Good, because it gets better, or worse, depending on how you view all this. Three kids is so last year, now Tony and Barrie want more – another couple of half-twins, but with a different donor. This time they're going on looks alone, and have picked out a 6ft catwalk model from the biological mum catalogue. No one's allowed to know who she is, because it's just easier that way.

Saffron wants sisters, but she's out of luck: they both turn out to be male. By my calculations, one will be her half-brother, and the other won't be related to her at all, as they will have no common parents. But that's looking at it in a very narrow-minded, old-fashioned kind of way.

There is a small scare: one of the foetuses is showing a higher than normal risk of developing Down's syndrome. There is always the possibility of putting it up for adoption if it doesn't come out right, says Barrie. They're fine, though – two beautiful boys, Jasper and Dallas. Probably best to keep the receipts just in case. How long is the guarantee on a baby, I wonder? Now they can be brought back home to Essex (the baby-making takes place in California, where it's legal), one big happy family.

Well, there are a few little problems. Like the kids getting teased at school. And other parents complaining that Barrie has hijacked the school pantomime to showcase his own thespian talents as the Fairy Godmother. And Eamonn Holmes on breakfast television suggesting that what they're doing isn't natural. And the fact that pretty much everyone else in the country agrees with him.

Certainly some of their queeny behaviour, Barrie's especially, doesn't help. Like asking the kids who they prefer, him or Tony, Dad or Daddy. And getting Saffron a specially made mink coat for her 10th birthday, and declaring: "I don't care who throws paint on you." That's not really going to help.

I'll leave all that to people who know right from wrong: outraged Daily Mail readers, God botherers, anxious liberals, people who have no problem at all with it. And you: let the debate begin.

As television, it's fabulous – one minute jaw-dropping, the next strangely touching. Daisy Asquith's film looks great, too; I like her trick of shooting them against a white background, like those photoshoots families do. She doesn't judge; her style is gently probing rather than confrontational. She gains their trust, and they give her – and us – what we want. The kids, too, because that's who we really want to hear from. They're certainly spoilt, precocious perhaps, and there is a touch of the Outnumbered monsters about them. Some of what they say sounds like it could have come straight from Barrie or Tony. Of course, it does – they're the parents, that's where language comes from. But they're nice. Normal even. Whatever normal is.'

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: oabmarcus on July 22, 2010, 04:42:43 PM
Hugh Hefner is taking Playboy private.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on July 22, 2010, 09:11:58 PM
Will the title become hyphenated; that will confuse those who bought Private Magazine for years.  >:D

Mike
Title: Banana!
Post by: Wendell_E on August 19, 2010, 12:26:31 PM
White Supremacist Wears Banana Outfit, Gets Busted for Indecent Exposure (http://newsfeed.time.com/2010/08/19/white-supremacist-wears-banana-outfit-gets-busted-for-indecent-exposure-achieves-punchline-status/)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: MN Dave on August 22, 2010, 07:06:45 AM
Righteous.  8)

http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/homegarden/101181499.html?elr=KArksUUUoDEy3LGDiO7aiU
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on August 25, 2010, 10:26:33 AM
A woman dumped her neighbour's cat into a wheelie bin.


http://news.aol.co.uk/cat-joke-was-meant-to-be/article/20100824233835164705563?icid=main|uk-ws-bb|dl1|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fnews.aol.co.uk%2Fcat-joke-was-meant-to-be%2Farticle%2F20100824233835164705563

Beyond bizarre.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on August 25, 2010, 10:51:43 AM
I really like these daily rag-influenced witch hunts, the cat woman is fine, as is that disgusting Blackpool woman who prompted headlines like:

Cenotaph woman remains at large
Wendy Lewis: Britain's Most Disgusting Person, Evades Authorities
Vile memorial drunk walks free
Cenotaph outrage woman apologises for urinating on memorial

It even made the Mail forget about immigrants for five seconds.

While the journalists' time could be better spent investigating crime, corruption, etc, it's always good to every now and again see social deviants get red faced when confronted about their actions :P
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on August 25, 2010, 10:57:11 AM
The owner of the cat was quited as saying that her eight year old was brokenhearted when she saw the video footage.....why was she shown it?

People get very enraged about the story; ignoring other more significant issues. The perpetrator is some kind of cruel, but police now have to guard her house!

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on September 17, 2010, 04:24:38 PM
http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/841120-devil-appears-in-bathroom-tile
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: CD on September 21, 2010, 05:57:12 AM
Police have admitted having technical issues after releasing an e-fit of a burglary suspect which looks like a man wearing a lettuce. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-11380834)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: MN Dave on September 21, 2010, 06:07:46 AM
Twitter got hacked.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on January 20, 2011, 12:12:02 PM
Cat Summoned for Jury Service (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/38/20110118/tod-cat-summoned-for-jury-service-045b8e8.html)

Mrs Esposito reportedly included a letter from her vet confirming that the cat was a 'domestic short-haired neutered feline' and not human.

However, the request for the cat's exemption was refused by a jury commissioner and Mrs Esposito was told that Sal 'must attend' Suffolk Superior Crown Court.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on January 20, 2011, 11:01:39 PM
The trial is probably that of a cat burglar.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Scarpia on January 25, 2011, 03:08:00 PM
Taco-Bel "beef" contains only 30% beef, according to lab findings.   :P
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on June 17, 2011, 10:53:11 AM
Swansea House Looks Like Hitler (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1371091/Swansea-house-looks-like-Hitler-complete-naff-parting.html)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Drasko on June 18, 2011, 07:07:18 AM
Swansea House Looks Like Hitler (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1371091/Swansea-house-looks-like-Hitler-complete-naff-parting.html)

ahahahahahahaahah
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on July 01, 2011, 10:10:37 PM
Quote from The Guardian Newspaper.

'A withering email to a "bad mannered" bride-to-be from her future mother-in-law has gone viral, prompting comparison between its author and the sitcom snob Hyacinth Bucket.

In the email sent to Heidi Withers, a PA from West London, last month, Carolyn Bourne describes her stepson Freddie's fiancee as "an ideal candidate for the Ladette to Lady television series", a reality TV show where drunken, foul-mouthed young women are taught the points of etiquette.

But Bourne has found herself compared to the show's comically sour-faced disciplinarians Mrs Harbord and Mrs Shrager – after Withers forwarded the disparaging remarks to a few friends, which led to the email being sent on to thousands of people.

In the email, Bourne, 60, from Dawlish, Devon, apparently rebukes Withers, 29, for her behaviour during a visit to the family in April, which she describes as "staggering in its uncouthness and lack of grace".

Bourne, whose company website describes her as a breeder of "award winning perfumed Pinks and Dianthus", seemingly exemplifies the worst stereotypes of mothers-in-law and stepmothers......implies that the PA is marrying above her station and is a potential gold digger.

She writes: "If you want to be accepted by the wider Bourne family, I suggest you take some guidance from experts with utmost haste.

"Here are a few examples of your lack of manners: When you are a guest in another's house, you do not declare what you will and will not eat – unless you are positively allergic to something.

"You do not remark that you do not have enough food. You do not start before everyone else.

"You do not take additional helpings without being invited to by your host.

"When a guest in another's house, you do not lie in bed until late morning in households that rise early. You fall in line with house norms.

"You should never ever insult the family you are about to join at any time and most definitely not in public.

"You regularly draw attention to yourself. Perhaps you should ask yourself why. No one gets married in a castle unless they own it. It is brash, celebrity style behaviour.

"If your parents are unable to contribute very much towards the cost of your wedding, it would be most ladylike and gracious to lower your sights and have a modest wedding as befits both your incomes.

"One could be accused of thinking that Heidi Withers must be patting herself on the back for having caught a most eligible young man. I pity Freddie."

Bourne and her husband, Edward, 63, have declined to comment on the email. "We have nothing to say," they told the Evening Standard.

The prospective bridegroom Freddie Bourne, 29, from Putney, London, would also not be drawn on the apparent spat.'



It is like a throwback to the 1920s, Bertie Wooster's monstrous Aunt Agatha writ large. It sounds like the young woman was irritating, but the older woman is clearly a controlling snob. In this world guests have to fit in; seemingly the idea that you make efforts to ensure your guest feels comfortable is quite beside the point.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: eyeresist on July 03, 2011, 05:03:05 PM
Quote from The Guardian Newspaper.

'A withering email to a "bad mannered" bride-to-be from her future mother-in-law has gone viral, prompting comparison between its author and the sitcom snob Hyacinth Bucket.

Oh God, this was actually a big "news" story here a couple of days ago. Next it'll be, "Tonight's big story: kitten plays piano - bad but cute!"

As for the actual case, I think the email writer was probably prompted by a mixture of furious indignation and a genuine desire to advise her future daughter-in-law. After all, some people are gauche not by choice but simply by ignorance (and I have been one of them). She does seem an archetypally status-anxious upper-middle type, but, given that the fiance does indeed seem to be a slapper of the first order, I'll grant her some leeway. Especially as her son doesn't seem to be aware of what he is walking into.

In these days of ahistoricity and PC-ness, it's nice to see the British class system hasn't gone extinct yet :)
 
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on July 03, 2011, 06:06:29 PM
I have read that the woman used to run a market stall; so she is what in the British class system would be referred to as 'trade.'

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: eyeresist on July 03, 2011, 07:32:48 PM

Whereas helping the king on the lavatory used to be a titled position! (No citation immediately to hand, sorry.)
 
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on July 04, 2011, 04:07:39 AM
The Bourne ultimatum: was it all a PR stunt? (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/online/the-bourne-ultimatum-was-it-all-a-pr-stunt-2306267.html)

And:

Greens Warn against Dangerous Dildos (http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,771863,00.html)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on July 04, 2011, 10:42:16 AM
Whereas helping the king on the lavatory used to be a titled position! (No citation immediately to hand, sorry.)

Gentlemen of the stool.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: eyeresist on July 04, 2011, 04:57:43 PM
Gentlemen of the stool.

Mike

Ah, thanks for that. I have discovered that the more common term was "Groom of the Stool (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groom_of_the_Stool)". Which unfortunately makes me think of someone taking a curry brush to a turd.
 
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on July 06, 2011, 01:17:38 PM
Well, they did that too; most of the Kings would come under that description.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Wendell_E on July 29, 2011, 02:39:37 AM
"Lucifer", "Full Stop" baby names rejected (http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/breaking/9872257/lucifer-and-full-stop-baby-names-rejected/)

I wonder if "Kiwi" is acceptable?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: eyeresist on July 31, 2011, 04:32:54 PM
"Lucifer", "Full Stop" baby names rejected (http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/breaking/9872257/lucifer-and-full-stop-baby-names-rejected/)

I wonder if "Kiwi" is acceptable?

That's a funny story! This is the kind of thing that makes me think the "nanny state" can't be all bad.

Shouldn't call a boy Lucifer, if only because it'll inevitably get shortened to "Lucy".
 
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on August 03, 2011, 04:01:12 PM
Man Wanted For Punching, Dragging Woman After I-83 Crash (http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2011/08/03/man-wanted-for-punching-dragging-woman-after-i-83-crash/)

When you see it.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: AllegroVivace on August 05, 2011, 04:51:20 PM
Mr. Bean in hospital, after crashing a million dollar car.

http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/Rowan+Bean+Atkinson+hurt+after+crashing+million+McLaren/5212219/story.html

He was probably putting his clothes on from the back seat, while controlling the wheal with a broomstick. :DDD

Heal up and don't do it again, Mr. Bean!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Andante on August 05, 2011, 10:34:53 PM
"Lucifer", "Full Stop" baby names rejected (http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/breaking/9872257/lucifer-and-full-stop-baby-names-rejected/)

I wonder if "Kiwi" is acceptable?
Hey, no more taking the Kiwi down eh  ;)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on August 06, 2011, 02:07:34 AM
Mr. Bean in hospital, after crashing a million dollar car.

http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/Rowan+Bean+Atkinson+hurt+after+crashing+million+McLaren/5212219/story.html

He was probably putting his clothes on from the back seat, while controlling the wheal with a broomstick. :DDD

Heal up and don't do it again, Mr. Bean!

He's already done it several times before - he must be a terrible driver.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: eyeresist on August 07, 2011, 05:12:07 PM
He's already done it several times before - he must be a terrible driver.

From my understanding (based largely on watching Top Gear), these "super cars" are dangerous monsters that only a professional racing car driver can really control.

Quote
Welcome to the internet's largest collection of exotic car crashes. We have over 6,000 exotic cars involved in accidents to show you the real consequences of reckless driving.

These car crash pictures involve some of the most expensive automobiles ever produced including Lamborghini, Ferrari, Mclaren F1, Porsche, Bugatti and more. All in all, you'll find almost a quarter of a Billion Dollars worth of damage within this crash collection.

http://www.wreckedexotics.com/
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: DavidW on August 17, 2011, 05:40:01 PM
Brain eating amoebas attack!

http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/08/17/amoeba.kids.deaths/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/08/17/amoeba.kids.deaths/index.html)

But in all seriousness, it's too bad for those kids.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on December 05, 2011, 12:44:44 PM
Herman Cain Admits He Quoted Pokemon  (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/03/herman-cain-quotes-pokemon_n_1127221.html)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 05, 2011, 12:58:08 PM
Pokemon said, You want a job, don't you? . . .
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on December 06, 2011, 07:17:48 AM
Mr. Bean in hospital, after crashing a million dollar car.

http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/Rowan+Bean+Atkinson+hurt+after+crashing+million+McLaren/5212219/story.html

He was probably putting his clothes on from the back seat, while controlling the wheal with a broomstick. :DDD

Heal up and don't do it again, Mr. Bean!
LOL and it was a McLaren F1!  :o
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 12, 2011, 04:56:49 AM
Quote
The British Isles are littered with towns with seemingly offensive names that do not appear on Facebook.

Proud Effin Woman (http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/facebook-doesnt-recognize-ireland-town-with-seemingly-offensive-name/2011/12/08/gIQA75zmoO_story.html)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on December 12, 2011, 02:15:09 PM
Now school shootings are being caused by videogames that haven't been released yet, it seems. (http://myona.com/2011/12/12/virginia-tech-shooter-influenced-gta-5-battlefield-3-mw3/)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Sergeant Rock on December 19, 2011, 06:08:59 AM
My alma mater, Ohio University, Athens Ohio

(http://photos.imageevent.com/sgtrock/dec11/ohio_bobcats.png)

won it's first ever post-season bowl game, beating Utah State in the final seconds 24-23  8)

I'm both extremely proud...and extremely amused. It was The Famous Idaho Potato Bowl  ;D


Sarge
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 19, 2011, 06:10:24 AM
Fun, Sarge!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Sergeant Rock on December 20, 2011, 04:15:32 PM
Fun, Sarge!

Thanks for the reply, Karl. And yet, I'm still depressed. No other forum member replied. Makes us realize how alone we are in the universe, does it not? Not even Sara, that goddess of the unimportant, goddess of the culturally irrelevant, the one true originator of this thread, chipped in with a witty if pointless comment. Sigh. Was the bowl game, then, really for nought? It appears so...appears so...

Go, Bobcats...

Sarge

Edit  ;D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on December 20, 2011, 04:21:03 PM
Thanks for the reply, Karl. And yet, I'm still depressed. No other forum member replied. Makes us realize how alone we are in the universe, does it not? Not even Sara, that goddess of the unimportant, goddess of the culturally irrelevant, the one true originator of this thread, chipped in with a witty if pointless comment. Sigh. Was the bowl game, then, really for nought? It appears so...appears so...

Curiously, I had actually quoted your post and written a reply to it a few days ago, but it didn't seem worth posting (and given what I DO post, it must've been truly crap). Essentially I was going to ask you to decode all the terminology - as I don't understand enough about American sport to see any fun in it :'(

For example, what does "post-season" mean here?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on December 20, 2011, 11:56:33 PM
I don't know if it is exactly unimportant: but recently in the UK there was a story about a girl who gave her mother a very long and exacting Christmas gift list. When there were signs that not all of the designer items might actually appear; she threatened to murder Father Christmas and to cut up his reindeer to cook and serve up to the homeless.

When asked to comment, the mother said that her daughter was lovely, but inclined to be quite demanding.

So, it might be curtains for Father Christmas.

In politics right now one MP is trying to get the Government to determine who would be in charge of the country should the prime minister be killed in a terrorist attack. I think David Cameron should stay away from white beards and red clothes this time of year.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on December 21, 2011, 09:15:55 AM
I loved that story about the PM. The MP was trying to be super partisan, but ended up sounding like a lunatic ;D The simple way the deputy PM dealt with it was quite elegant (for him).
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Sergeant Rock on December 21, 2011, 09:52:03 AM
Curiously, I had actually quoted your post and written a reply to it a few days ago, but it didn't seem worth posting (and given what I DO post, it must've been truly crap). Essentially I was going to ask you to decode all the terminology - as I don't understand enough about American sport to see any fun in it :'(

For example, what does "post-season" mean here?

Sorry, Sara. It was late when I posted that. Way past my bedtime. I forgot to include my usual grin at the end. That's now been rectified. I was not being entirely serious...at least I don't think I was! Hard to remember now...I confess to drinking more than my usual quota of wine last evening, and chasing the last bottle with a few drams of Scotch  ;D

Post-season games are those played after the end of a regular season in order to determine a champion. In college football the post-season games are called bowl games. The originals were the Rose Bowl, Sugar Bowl, Orange Bowl and Cotton Bowl and they are still the most prestigious, involving the best college teams. But the concept has proliferated to such a hilarious degree that even the lowly spud has a game named after it now  ;D  So while it's nice to have some national recognition for my university, there is something decidedly screwy about a game named The Famous Idaho Potato Bowl played in the middle of nowhere (my apologies to any Boise residents :D )

 Sarge
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on December 21, 2011, 10:07:22 AM
Ah, I see thanks :) I look forward to a Wisconsin "Dairy Bowl" (it sounds delicious) ;D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 21, 2011, 10:33:29 AM
If Boise residents don't know that their town is out in the middle of nowhere, they're in serious denial.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: eyeresist on December 21, 2011, 04:38:52 PM
Curiously, I had actually quoted your post and written a reply to it a few days ago, but it didn't seem worth posting (and given what I DO post, it must've been truly crap).

Was going to reply to this, but didn't have anything worth saying.

;)
 
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on December 21, 2011, 11:00:32 PM
I loved that story about the PM. The MP was trying to be super partisan, but ended up sounding like a lunatic ;D The simple way the deputy PM dealt with it was quite elegant (for him).

One aspect of this I did not really grasp, and I heard quite a long interview on radio with the MP, was that he seemed only to worry about the demise of the PM by means of terrorism. It could be a a surfeit of lampreys or falling out of his tree; but the MP only seemed concerned should there be a gap in the fence because it was kicked in.

One thing we do know, no danger of it being Prescott these days.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on December 21, 2011, 11:45:06 PM
Based on an article I read a while back, the PM's primary health concern should not be terrorists, but falling masonry next time he visits Buckingham Palace.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on December 22, 2011, 08:45:17 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Qp21G.jpg)
Title: Re: The [other] news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 23, 2011, 07:34:41 AM
France asks women to remove breast implants (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/france-to-announce-guidance-for-30000-women-with-risky-breast-implants/2011/12/23/gIQAqb8nCP_story.html?hpid=z4)
Title: Re: The [other] news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 23, 2011, 07:42:25 AM
“As a preventive measure not of an urgent nature. . . .”
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on December 23, 2011, 11:16:36 AM
Now school shootings are being caused by videogames that haven't been released yet, it seems. (http://myona.com/2011/12/12/virginia-tech-shooter-influenced-gta-5-battlefield-3-mw3/)
??? :D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on December 25, 2011, 01:25:07 PM
Petition to protest ultra-Orthodox discrimination against 7-year-old Beit Shemesh girl  (http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/petition-to-protest-ultra-orthodox-discrimination-against-7-year-old-beit-shemesh-girl-1.403396)

I don't know what these guys problem with Iran is, they have so much in common.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 27, 2011, 08:18:34 AM
Talk about yer representative democracy . . . .

Quote
The Center for Responsive Politics found that 47 percent of current members of Congress are millionaires.
Title: Re: The [other] news thread
Post by: Szykneij on December 28, 2011, 05:56:09 AM
France asks women to remove breast implants (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/france-to-announce-guidance-for-30000-women-with-risky-breast-implants/2011/12/23/gIQAqb8nCP_story.html?hpid=z4)

New Orleans justs asks women to display the holders.
Title: You'd better be careful where you get hit by a train
Post by: Todd on January 02, 2012, 11:57:22 AM
Makes sense.  Or does it? (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-train-death-lawsuit-20111229,0,1119897.story)
Title: Re: You'd better be careful where you get hit by a train
Post by: Szykneij on January 02, 2012, 12:25:06 PM
Makes sense.  Or does it? (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-train-death-lawsuit-20111229,0,1119897.story)

How does one collect the damages if the suit is successful? It's unlikely that an 18-year old had much of an estate and garnishing the wages of a dismembered corpse can't be very productive.
Title: Re: You'd better be careful where you get hit by a train
Post by: Todd on January 02, 2012, 12:35:36 PM
...and garnishing the wages of a dismembered corpse can't be very productive.



You're a 'glass half-empty' kind of person, aren't you?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: vandermolen on January 04, 2012, 11:22:25 AM
Father in Wales throws out Christmas gifts, including tickets for London Olympics and cash, with wrapping paper which he takes to rubbish dump. Only realises what he has done after dump has closed. Cardiff Police refuse to let him jump over wall to retrieve items. But Cardiff Council arranges for guard to let him in. He emerges triumphant after rummaging in dump for fifteen minutes. Nice photo in paper of his wife and daughter trying to strangle him.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 04, 2012, 11:32:56 AM
Mercy!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on January 04, 2012, 09:52:04 PM
Father in Wales throws out Christmas gifts, including tickets for London Olympics and cash, with wrapping paper which he takes to rubbish dump. Only realises what he has done after dump has closed. Cardiff Police refuse to let him jump over wall to retrieve items. But Cardiff Council arranges for guard to let him in. He emerges triumphant after rummaging in dump for fifteen minutes. Nice photo in paper of his wife and daughter trying to strangle him.

I began reading this as though it were a regular and deliberate occurance ;D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on January 05, 2012, 09:44:30 AM
Meanwhile, during talks about sanctions for Iran, the US levels the same threat towards the notorious rogue state of Spain: Link (https://torrentfreak.com/us-threatened-to-blacklist-spain-for-not-implementing-site-blocking-law-120105/)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on January 05, 2012, 10:02:26 AM
Meanwhile, during talks about sanctions for Iran, the US levels the same threat towards the notorious rogue state of Spain: Link (https://torrentfreak.com/us-threatened-to-blacklist-spain-for-not-implementing-site-blocking-law-120105/)



Well, someone has to write Spain's laws, and clearly the Spanish can't do it . . .
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 05, 2012, 10:27:52 AM
Mañana . . . .
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: vandermolen on January 05, 2012, 01:46:47 PM
I began reading this as though it were a regular and deliberate occurance ;D

Well, the Welsh are a strange lot  ;D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 06, 2012, 04:57:47 AM
Understatement of the year ; )
Title: Re: You'd better be careful where you get hit by a train
Post by: ibanezmonster on January 06, 2012, 07:51:23 AM
Makes sense.  Or does it? (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-train-death-lawsuit-20111229,0,1119897.story)
I could only begin to understand if the lady had significant medical expenses. Other than that...

"$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$"
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on January 06, 2012, 05:03:53 PM
I began reading this as though it were a regular and deliberate occurance ;D

Me too. "Nice photo" they say. I saw on tv yesterday that a Dutch guy was attacked by a British famous girl. Beaten, bitten and she sewed him later. She was laughing nicely on the video I saw, I think it was afterwards.

Henk
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on January 23, 2012, 09:40:14 AM
Hmmmm. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/megadeth-bassist-and-founding-member-now-studying-at-seminary-through-online-course/2012/01/19/gIQAwhNpAQ_story.html)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on February 21, 2012, 07:46:14 AM
I just don't believe it. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17110618)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Wendell_E on March 11, 2012, 04:17:31 AM
Fistfight breaks out at Chicago Symphony Orchestra (http://news.yahoo.com/fistfight-breaks-chicago-symphony-orchestra-220227194.html)

Those Brahms fans are so rowdy.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: eyeresist on March 11, 2012, 05:24:09 PM

^ Old guy had it coming.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on March 21, 2012, 03:58:52 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9156220/SNP-admits-Shetland-and-Orkney-could-opt-out-of-independent-Scotland.html
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: eyeresist on March 21, 2012, 05:06:45 PM
Is Shetland where the ponies come from?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on March 21, 2012, 05:44:52 PM
They have a veritable obsession with small animals for whatever reason, there is a cute mini rough collie breed too.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on March 22, 2012, 05:05:48 PM
Creator Of “Re-Nig” Bumper Sticker Says It’s “Not Racist” (http://newsone.com/nation/newsonestaff9/yeah-right-creator-of-re-nig-bumber-sticker-says-its-not-racist/)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on March 24, 2012, 10:47:16 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9156220/SNP-admits-Shetland-and-Orkney-could-opt-out-of-independent-Scotland.html

I think this item is under the wrong thread: hardly unimportant. Could be a deal breaker in the whole issue.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on March 26, 2012, 11:44:04 AM
Finger lickin' good! (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/03/26/mad-mom-january-jones-eats-her-own-placenta/)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ataraxia on March 26, 2012, 12:06:16 PM
Finger lickin' good! (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/03/26/mad-mom-january-jones-eats-her-own-placenta/)

I'd eat mine if I had one!!  :P
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 26, 2012, 12:11:02 PM
Quote from: January Jones
. . . but we’re the only mammals who don’t ingest our own placentas.

Right! Why should we be any different?!??!!!

(We're the only mammals who name our children after months of the calendar, too.)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ataraxia on March 26, 2012, 12:17:57 PM
(We're the only mammals who name our children after months of the calendar, too.)[/font]

Strippers need names too.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Sergeant Rock on March 26, 2012, 12:18:23 PM
(We're the only mammals who name our children after months of the calendar, too.)[/font]

And we're the only mammals who create forums in order to discuss unimportant news  8)

Sarge
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Sergeant Rock on March 26, 2012, 12:22:38 PM
Strippers need names too.

Once upon a time, when I was young and unthinking, I wanted to name any future daughter of mine, September. Seriously.

Do you think I would have limited her career choices?


Sarge
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ataraxia on March 26, 2012, 12:26:49 PM
Once upon a time, when I was young and unthinking, I wanted to name any future daughter of mine, September. Seriously.

Do you think I would have limited her career choices?

She would have been destined to become a stripper or an actor on Mad Men.

(http://upperswandhamlane.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/january-jones-mad-men_l.jpg)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on March 26, 2012, 12:28:44 PM
And we're the only mammals who create forums in order to discuss unimportant news




How do you know that?  For instance, perhaps Zebras have (non-internet) forums around their favorite watering holes to exchange meaningless tidbits on, oh, wildebeest behavior. 
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ataraxia on March 26, 2012, 12:29:36 PM
How do you know that?  For instance, perhaps Zebras have (non-internet) forums around their favorite watering holes to exchange meaningless tidbits on, oh, wildebeest behavior.

IT'S TRUE!!!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 26, 2012, 12:30:56 PM
On GMG, no one knows you're not a lemur.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on March 26, 2012, 02:46:44 PM
It's Hard Out There for a Pimp! (http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/26/world/europe/france-dsk-court/?hpt=hp_t2)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Szykneij on March 26, 2012, 03:05:43 PM
It's Hard Out There for a Pimp! (http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/26/world/europe/france-dsk-court/?hpt=hp_t2)

(http://makemoneyhomebusinesscenter.com/wp-content/uploads/mvbthumbs/img_46864_guidos-livelihood-scene-risky-business-movie-1983-hd.jpg)

In a sluggish economy, never, ever @$&%# with another man's livelihood!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: eyeresist on March 26, 2012, 04:49:50 PM
Strippers need names too.

As an old Donald Duck fan, that makes me very sad.

(http://images.wikia.com/disney/images/1/1e/April%2C_May%2C_June.jpg) (http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/April,_May_and_June)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Papy Oli on April 06, 2012, 02:00:59 AM
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/features/james-bond-ditches-vodka-martinis-for-heineken-7615415.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/features/james-bond-ditches-vodka-martinis-for-heineken-7615415.html)

By Jove !!!

 ;D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: DavidW on April 06, 2012, 05:29:53 AM
Advertising is out of control!  I don't mind Bond drinking beer, but I don't want to see advertising in a movie that I already paid money to see.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on April 06, 2012, 07:52:00 AM
To late. Product placement has been going on for years. If not that, it is all about merchandising.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Sergeant Rock on April 11, 2012, 06:03:29 AM
From the The Local, an English language German news website:

(http://www.thelocal.de/articleImages/41871.jpg)

Elderly Germans 'cause more trouble than Turks'


I love the picture that illustrates the headline. Reminds me of Monty Python's Hell's Grannies  ;D

Sarge


Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on April 16, 2012, 06:23:21 AM
It's about time the man got some recognition. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/9204961/George-Washington-named-Britains-greatest-ever-foe.html)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on April 16, 2012, 07:03:37 AM
Something about the combination of "one of Britain's most impressive private book collections" and "shed" offers a certain inevitability... (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/bonfire-of-the-first-editions-author-loses-lifes-work-in-garden-shed-fire-7646612.html)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on April 19, 2012, 07:51:05 AM
Er, um, okay. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/taliban-commander-turns-self-in-for-reward-on-wanted-poster/2012/04/17/gIQAbVjqNT_blog.html?tid=pm_world_pop)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: DavidW on April 19, 2012, 09:13:09 AM
Er, um, okay. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/taliban-commander-turns-self-in-for-reward-on-wanted-poster/2012/04/17/gIQAbVjqNT_blog.html?tid=pm_world_pop)

Ha!  I wonder what he'll do with his money while being held indefinitely? :D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: eyeresist on April 19, 2012, 11:34:09 PM
Are our political biases hardwired? (http://nymag.com/news/features/liberals-conservatives-2012-4/&ei=uxqRT4DuIKyRiQfM-MzcDA&usg=AFQjCNHgn9m5JxT-f8m_kYQYUFguMRWUsA)

Some amusing findings:

Conservatives approved of documentaries and going to bars; liberals looked favorably upon motorcycles and singing songs.
But what about bikers, huh? They like bikes AND bars. Genetic freaks!

Among women, conservatives were more into sex; among men, Jost and his colleagues found the opposite.
Which might explain some of Ann Coulter's appeal. But the unanswered question is "What kind of sex?" Knowing conservatives, I'm betting on heavy butch/femme dominance games, which is not my cup of tea at all.

Conservatives’ bedrooms had more laundry baskets, postage stamps, and sports memorabilia. Liberals had movie tickets and larger collections of CDs and books.
This explains everything!


BUT:
They found that even in nursery schools, liberals had been self-reliant and resilient, able to develop close relationships and willing to easily cast off routine. The conservatives had been distrustful of others and anxious when facing uncertainty, quick to take offense and experience guilt.
By this definition I should be conservative. But I ain't.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on April 20, 2012, 06:15:40 AM
Something about the combination of "one of Britain's most impressive private book collections" and "shed" offers a certain inevitability... (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/bonfire-of-the-first-editions-author-loses-lifes-work-in-garden-shed-fire-7646612.html)

Surely there are sheds and then there are second homes that are classified as sheds to avoid council tax! A shame for him, he is being very good natured about it.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on April 30, 2012, 06:14:26 AM
Just another sad accident, I'm sure. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/shokri-ghanem-former-libyan-prime-minister-dies-at-69/2012/04/29/gIQAdqMFqT_story.html)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: eyeresist on April 30, 2012, 08:09:55 PM
 
Stand up, quick! (http://jacobinmag.com/spring-2012/against-chairs/)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on April 30, 2012, 09:27:13 PM
I may get a nose bleed.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on May 08, 2012, 05:07:54 AM
Just think of the cross-promotion possibilities!

Australian universities appear to have lax drug testing policies. (http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/human_nature/2012/03/after_birth_abortion_the_pro_choice_case_for_infanticide_.html)

Soylent Green is people!!!! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17980177)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Philoctetes on May 09, 2012, 08:01:31 AM
Australian universities appear to have lax drug testing policies. (http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/human_nature/2012/03/after_birth_abortion_the_pro_choice_case_for_infanticide_.html)

Peter: Uh...Oh, boy, Quagmire. I-I don't know that we can do that. We-We-We can barely take care of the two we have. Now-Now, this is just a suggestion. Just throwing it out there. Have you considered abortion?
Quagmire: Uh, Peter, I think it's too late for that.
Peter: Oh, don't let the press put the scare into you. Wade v. Boggs has not been overturned.
Quagmire: Yeah, but you can't really abort a live baby.
Peter: Ho, boy, they have got you. [putting his hand on Quagmire's shoulder] Glenn, Glenn. [whispering] Give her back to God
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: eyeresist on May 10, 2012, 10:15:46 PM
US readers probably knew about this, but it's news to me:

Quote
Airline mistakes toddler for terrorist (http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-incidents/airline-mistakes-toddler-for-terrorist-20120511-1yh0h.html)

An 18-month-old girl was mistakenly pulled off a flight because airline employees thought her name was on the US no-fly list.

The child's parents have told an ABC television network affiliate, WPBF, that they believe they were targeted because they are of Middle Eastern descent and the mother wears a hijab.

An airline employee boarded the flight before it departed on Tuesday evening, telling the family their toddler was on a federal list that includes thousands of known or suspected terrorists.

Advertisement: Story continues below JetBlue airline on Thursday blamed a computer glitch, saying employees followed proper protocol. The US Transportation Security Administration says the girl was not flagged by the agency.

The family was cleared to re-board. But they declined, saying they were too embarrassed.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: eyeresist on May 11, 2012, 12:45:35 AM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-FGOmUPwmRLo/Tm_T8v0HvFI/AAAAAAAAH-0/vwJTuqJSskU/s1600/brad-pitt-se7en-seven-end-scene1-525x288.jpg)

"What's in the box? What's in the BOX??!!??  Oh. It's porn."

Quote
Harmless: The "haunted box of porn" movie that might just save your soul (http://www.avclub.com/articles/harmless-the-haunted-box-of-porn-movie-that-might,73497/)

Kirk Cameron's Fireproof warned of the way that pornography is contributing to the dissolution of the American family, but strangely, no one took that movie very seriously. So the Christian movie industry will try again with Harmless—this time using the "found-footage" aesthetic that today's horror audiences respond to, in hopes that the visceral, vérité quality of the film will communicate the very real horrors of constantly whacking it. Indeed, perhaps you will see something of yourself in the film's otherwise-decent family man whose supposedly "harmless" box o' porn turns out to be anything but, because the title is ironic and porn is evil. In fact, said box unleashes a porn poltergeist that soon terrorizes his entire house, haunting the man via creepy hair-dolls and giant, symbolic mounds of jizz-snow guarded by disapproving, matronly women, until he must make the apparently very difficult decision regarding just throwing it out already. The filmmakers call their still-in-production project a "sort of a social commentary on how pornography can destroy a family"—though we suppose some hedonists will read it as an argument for how great the Internet is, because it removes the need to hang onto a giant box of haunted porn. Those people are going to have demons watching them masturbate forever.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on May 11, 2012, 05:37:11 AM
US readers probably knew about this, but it's news to me:


Diaper bombs are no laughing matter.  I've had to defuse more than a few.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 11, 2012, 06:45:16 AM
Oh, please assure me that you meant defuse . . . .
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on May 11, 2012, 07:37:26 AM
Oh, please assure me that you meant defuse . . . .


No morning coffee when I posted.  Corrected.  (Though the original word had its charms, too.)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: eyeresist on May 13, 2012, 05:30:01 PM
No morning coffee when I posted.  Corrected.  (Though the original word had its charms, too.)

I came late and completely missed the joke :(
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: eyeresist on May 14, 2012, 12:19:14 AM
A review (http://www.tnr.com/article/books-and-arts/magazine/102134/spanish-holocaust-francisco-franco?page=0,0) of the book The Spanish Holocaust: Inquisition and Extermination in Twentieth-Century Spain, by Paul Preston, brings new knowledge of the homegrown horrors of the Spanish civil war, in which all the worst aspects of politics came together to release the worst potential of humanity. It was a true catastrophe.

Sadly, the reviewer ends with a repetitive, banal conceit on "self-colonization", and a diatribe about how the word "holocaust" must not be applied to anything except the mass murder of Jews by Nazis (he calls Preston's title "a profound mistake").
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on May 14, 2012, 02:22:10 PM
What could possibly go wrong? (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/09/us-germany-immigrants-name-idUSBRE84810Q20120509)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: eyeresist on May 14, 2012, 05:24:57 PM
What could possibly go wrong? (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/09/us-germany-immigrants-name-idUSBRE84810Q20120509)

Wow, that is nutty. I assumed the right to change your name was universal in the West (barring certain exceptions such as names that are unprintable). Maybe it's just the English-speaking world? Knowing Germany, this might be more a case of insane rules-enforcement than ethnic discrimination per se.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Szykneij on May 15, 2012, 02:58:47 PM

Soylent Green is people!!!! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17980177)

...and you don't even get "Peer Gynt" or the Pastoral Symphony!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on May 19, 2012, 06:49:14 AM
Thank goodness we have a caring big brother. (http://automotivediscovery.com/mandatory-black-boxes-in-new-cars-okayed-by-senate-house-to-follow/9213177/)

This particular bill also includes an amendment that would allow the Federales to prohibit foreign travel by people owing more than $50K in taxes - without a hearing. 

Awesome!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on May 19, 2012, 09:05:57 AM
'The point of having a right to bear a name is not to counteract flaws in society.'

What has that to do with it? Seems to me one should have the right to call yourself whatever you want: within some wilder boundaries, but seemingly not.

I used to have a neighbour whose surname was 'Archibald'. This kid's parents, or rather I suspect his father, decided to give him the first name of, 'Archibald'. So, Archibald Archibald it was. Now in my view, not only should the child have the right to rename himself, but that should be extended to impunity when burying an axe in his father's head. In Scotland, where this happened, he would certainly have had the right to change his name on whatever grounds he wished.

In France the name of a baby which is to be registered can only be chosen from a prescribed list. They basically restrict foreign names.

Mike

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on May 19, 2012, 09:33:24 AM
Seems to me one should have the right to call yourself whatever you want: within some wilder boundaries, but seemingly not.



As an American, the idea that one can change one's name to just about anything is a given.  A person really has to come up with a doozy - something with profanity or Adolf Hitler thrown in - to have the name rejected.  Apparently, even enlightened New Zealand has a list of banned names.  Such offensive names as Duke and Knight are no-nos.  Do governments not have real issues to contend with?

I must also say the phrase 'right to bear a name' is almost alarming. 
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on May 19, 2012, 10:00:06 AM
We are at one.

Mike, (Knight the Proscribed)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: DieNacht on May 19, 2012, 10:44:28 AM
The authorities have to give permission here in Denmark too, if people request for new, unusual names. On the other hand, recent laws have made the procedure of changing one´s name easier.
 
However, according to the television station TV2, this also means increased creativity and that more requested names are thus rejected to protect the children - rejections have included girl names "Ikea", "Circle" and "Petit" (a perfectly normal surname in France though?) and boy names like "Plaza", "Bacchus" and "Bandito".

 
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on May 19, 2012, 10:49:49 AM
...this also means increased creativity and that more requested names are thus rejected to protect the children - rejections have included..."Bacchus"

Bacchus?  Really?


(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-oE5NQxNgNC4/T6nGWMVVw1I/AAAAAAAAALU/hRYCiU0Hhqs/s1600/think-of-the-children.jpg)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: DieNacht on May 19, 2012, 11:24:28 AM
Quote
Bacchus?  Really?

Haven´t found the official explanation, but I guess the hedonism associated with it was the reason  ::) .

Due to an intense public debate, the responsible office had to acknowledge "Christophpher" though, but the parents fought 9 years for this and had to pay about 4000 $ for professional assistance. This was some years ago, though.

"Ludo" on the other hand wasn´t approved. 

(source, in Danish: http://www.faklen.dk/faklen/20/monopol.php etc.)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: eyeresist on May 20, 2012, 05:24:42 PM
Apparently, even enlightened New Zealand has a list of banned names.  Such offensive names as Duke and Knight are no-nos.  Do governments not have real issues to contend with?

Well, obviously certain names would be enablers for fraud.  Ideally, for instance, no-one would be allowed to adopt the first name "Doctor".

If you want your kid to grow up to be president, you could just call them "President" - problem solved!
(Bonus points if you have the surname of a past or present president.)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on May 20, 2012, 05:33:34 PM
Ideally, for instance, no-one would be allowed to adopt the first name "Doctor".



Why ideally?  If some doofus wants to call him or herself Doctor, more power to 'em.  I can't see how a name of Doctor would be an enabler for fraud since anyone filling out Doctor as a name rather than a title would be immediately identified as a flake.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: eyeresist on May 20, 2012, 07:28:47 PM
Some perspective (http://www.historytoday.com/peter-ling/sex-and-automobile-jazz-age) on modern habits:

The August 1924 edition of Harper's magazine carried an article entitled: 'Is the Young Person Coming back?' which recounted the experience of a young man who asked a city girl if he might call on her. The nub of this humorous piece was that when the young man came to 'call', he found to his astonishment that 'she had her hat on'. To older Americans, this could signify only one thing: she expected to go out. This was not what the unsophisticated youth had anticipated at all. To him, coming to call meant being received in the family parlour, making light conversation with the girl and her mother. On subsequent occasions, it might involve taking tea with them and listening politely while the young woman displayed her skills as a pianist. But this was not what the woman had in mind. She was expecting 'a date'; to be taken out and 'treated', and the young man ended up spending four weeks' savings in an effort to meet her expectations.

A generation later, dating had become so accepted that social scientists felt that Americans had to be reminded that there had been no 'dates' before around 1900.

...

The focal point of calling was gaining admittance into the private family sphere of the home which was the central expression of bourgeois status. Although privacy itself had only become a realistic possibility in the eighteenth century, thereafter it had rapidly established itself as a necessity for the affluent and an aspiration for the poor.

...

For the mass of working-class Americans, such privacy was very remote from the daily reality of overcrowding. ... The working classes consequently pioneered dating as an expedient born of the opportunities offered and the comforts denied to them. Forced out onto the streets, Addams warned, working-class youth was highly susceptible to the enticements of commercialised entertainment. Recognising the need for relaxation after a harsh working day, Addams worried nonetheless about the vulgarity of available leisure facilities.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on May 22, 2012, 05:50:16 AM
Weyland Industries is born! (http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/private-rocket-maker-tries-again-to-launch-eager-to-begin-1st-private-space-station-delivery/2012/05/22/gIQACDhIhU_story.html)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on May 24, 2012, 12:40:09 PM
I wonder what Publius would have thought. (http://rt.com/usa/news/new-york-anonymous-internet-020/)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on May 29, 2012, 06:11:10 AM
Someone must have opened one of those 'You've Won!!' emails. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/28/computer-worm-iran-oil-w32flamer)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on May 29, 2012, 08:08:56 AM
"Unfortunately, instead of the Security Council logo, viewers were shown the badge of the United Nations Space Command, the military agency depicted in popular interstellar war game Halo." (http://mobile.news.com.au/technology/gaming/sorry-we-confused-un-logo-with-halo-video-game-bbc/story-e6frfrt9-1226371923813?sv=355dbfb3eaac053c25353c99476d7465)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on May 29, 2012, 08:19:05 AM
"Unfortunately, instead of the Security Council logo, viewers were shown the badge of the United Nations Space Command, the military agency depicted in popular interstellar war game Halo." (http://mobile.news.com.au/technology/gaming/sorry-we-confused-un-logo-with-halo-video-game-bbc/story-e6frfrt9-1226371923813?sv=355dbfb3eaac053c25353c99476d7465)



Reminds me of this gem. (http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/03/another-country-confuses-borat-music-with-kazakhstans-national-anthem/255028/)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 29, 2012, 08:25:18 AM
Reminds me of this gem. (http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/03/another-country-confuses-borat-music-with-kazakhstans-national-anthem/255028/)

Yes!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on May 31, 2012, 06:01:07 AM
The Nanny State grows some more. (http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/31/us/new-york-sugar-drinks/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)  I remember in the 90s, when nicotine was described as being as addictive to heroin as part of the push to reduce smoking, some people warned that government do-gooders wouldn't stop there.  Some people even warned that food was next.  Well, here it is, a bold second step by a big city (after banning trans-fats).  The world needs to be made safe from Big Soda Pops.  Sixteen ounces is the medically determined (?) Bad Size.  (No mention of whether beer can be served more than a pint at a time.)  But why stop here?  Why not regulate sugar content itself, and ban any beverage that does not meet Nanny State approved nutrition guidelines?  Why not do what some people where I live want to do and ban sales of unhealthy foods to anyone under 18?  Seriously, some people want to ban the sale of "kid's meals" to kids without parents present.  I mean, that could never happen, right?  That's crazy, right?  Nah, it looks like it's a matter of time now. 

Of course, the tobacco settlement didn't quite reduce smoking as much as the crusaders claimed it would.  (The smoking rate dropped to around 20% and remains there.)  It did, however, result in a curb of the First Amendment, increased regressive taxation, and huge legal settlements that states used to pad their coffers.  There's simply no way that something similar would happen with Bad Foods.

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on June 01, 2012, 06:37:18 AM
I certainly hope this is a joke. (http://www.rt.com/news/breivik-prison-hired-cellmates-692/)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Wanderer on June 01, 2012, 09:13:18 AM
War and Nookd (http://futureoftheinternet.org/war-and-nookd)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 01, 2012, 09:22:50 AM
Oh, that is funny!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Papy Oli on June 11, 2012, 03:23:31 AM
If you have 70,000 sterling pounds to spare, you can buy a beach hut in Southwold, one of the prettiest seaside town in Suffolk (http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/southwold_fixer_upper_beach_hut_yours_for_70k_1_1405982)

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on June 11, 2012, 04:50:51 AM
First a chick left her baby on the roof of a car, now this. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/have-we-forgotten-something-uk-prime-minister-leaves-daughter-behind-in-pub/2012/06/11/gJQA7IB7TV_story.html?hpid=z4)

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Philoctetes3 on June 11, 2012, 05:52:22 AM
First a chick left her baby on the roof of a car, now this. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/have-we-forgotten-something-uk-prime-minister-leaves-daughter-behind-in-pub/2012/06/11/gJQA7IB7TV_story.html?hpid=z4)

Well that's not much of a story. I mean can't lizard spawn live on their own almost immediately after birth?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 11, 2012, 06:06:03 AM
Well that's not much of a story. I mean can't lizard spawn live on their own almost immediately after birth?

Is there some hidden relevance to this question?  I don't ask for any alleged relevance to be detailed; I am just curious.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Philoctetes3 on June 11, 2012, 06:39:37 AM
Is there some hidden relevance to this question?  I don't ask for any alleged relevance to be detailed; I am just curious.

Not that hidden:

https://www.youtube.com/v/A8g0kuqH0KY
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on June 11, 2012, 07:23:29 AM
Clean everything Polish lad - I like that show. 
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Philoctetes3 on June 11, 2012, 08:14:38 AM
Clean everything Polish lad - I like that show.

Yeah, Britain has a whole variety of shows like that which are fantastic. Plus anything that Frankie Boyle takes part in is gold.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 11, 2012, 08:29:23 AM
Animal of the Day (http://www.csmonitor.com/Photo-Galleries/In-Pictures/Animal-of-the-day)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 11, 2012, 06:48:04 PM
Animal of the Day (http://www.csmonitor.com/Photo-Galleries/In-Pictures/Animal-of-the-day)
Rob Newman was featured as the 9th entry, on June 5. Go get 'em, champ!  8)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on June 12, 2012, 09:14:17 AM
Ah, so that's all it will take. (http://money.cnn.com/2012/06/12/news/economy/iea-energy/index.htm?source=cnn_bin)  Let me break into my piggy bank.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 12, 2012, 09:42:45 AM
Luckily, there's cash a-plenty on the balance sheet!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on June 14, 2012, 05:59:03 AM
What a pisser. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/13/sweden-left-party-toilet-stand_n_1590572.html)



Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: eyeresist on June 14, 2012, 10:13:15 PM
How the West still has no idea what it's doing with Iran:

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v34/n12/pankaj-mishra/why-werent-they-grateful
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 15, 2012, 05:57:35 PM
Poor Tony Parker... why does he surround himself with losers?

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/tony-parker-got-shards-glass-eye-during-drake-174449702--nba.html
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Lethevich on June 15, 2012, 09:00:45 PM
Rupert Murdoch called Tony Blair urging him not to delay the invasion of Iraq, former Number 10 communications chief Alastair Campbell has said. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18468123)

wat
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on June 15, 2012, 09:50:59 PM
Is this the right thread for this I wonder? It seems to me that the attempts at subversion of our political strategy is quite fundamental. I wonder if there are honours the USA can provide to Murdoch for his sterling work on their behalf?

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on June 16, 2012, 05:32:27 AM
I wonder if there are honours the USA can provide to Murdoch for his sterling work on their behalf?



Citizenship?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on June 16, 2012, 08:57:40 PM
To the extent that would be termed an honour, he already had it. There is probably something else he can squeeze out of the system.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on June 17, 2012, 04:55:29 AM
To the extent that would be termed an honour, he already had it.


Yes, I know.  I suppose he can enjoy the benefits of being a rich American citizen, which includes getting richer.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 17, 2012, 05:24:41 AM
In America, the richer you get, the more you can be sure that God approves of your life.  Q.E.D.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: eyeresist on June 18, 2012, 05:06:31 PM
Why China fears the Teletubbies (http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/why-china-fears-the-teletubbies-20120618-20jcf.html)

The many curious search terms you shouldn't use in China. My favourite is "best actor" - a derisive term for Premier Wen Jiabao.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 06, 2012, 06:03:41 AM
Hmm, what's up in Germany? (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/27/circumcision-ruling-germany-muslim-jewish?INTCMP=SRCH)  This so shortly after the Germans decided to prevent non-Germans from taking German names.  It would seem that both decisions could be construed as being targeted at minorities.  Nah.

(At least it resulted in a new phrase of note: "circumcision tourism".)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 06, 2012, 06:28:12 AM
Hmm, what's up in Germany? (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/27/circumcision-ruling-germany-muslim-jewish?INTCMP=SRCH)  This so shortly after the Germans decided to prevent non-Germans from taking German names.  It would seem that both decisions could be construed as being targeted at minorities.  Nah.

(At least it resulted in a new phrase of note: "circumcision tourism".)

Squirming a bit, since I just watched Conspiracy last night . . . .
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Gurn Blanston on July 06, 2012, 06:36:29 AM
I found it interesting and amusing that, in the middle of the article, they felt they had to break off momentarily and to parenthetically define "penology"....  ::)

8)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Gurn Blanston on July 08, 2012, 09:02:42 AM
After 17 years of playing at golf, this morning I made a hole-in-one. 145 yd Par 3, 6 iron. I was amused.

Odds against:  12,000/1

8)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: mc ukrneal on July 08, 2012, 09:06:29 AM
After 17 years of playing at golf, this morning I made a hole-in-one. 145 yd Par 3, 6 iron. I was amused.

Odds against:  12,000/1

8)
Hey that's great! Now you can get started on your next 'streak'!  8)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Gurn Blanston on July 08, 2012, 09:12:41 AM
Hey that's great! Now you can get started on your next 'streak'!  8)

:D  I should imagine that the next one will last the remainder of my golfing life. :)

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Title: Re: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 08, 2012, 11:32:35 AM
After 17 years of playing at golf, this morning I made a hole-in-one. 145 yd Par 3, 6 iron. I was amused.

Odds against:  12,000/1

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Dude, you earned some amusement!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 10, 2012, 05:48:00 AM
Coming soon to airlines near you? (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2171121/Pot-bellied-pigs-miniature-horses-allowed-planes-offer-owners-emotional-support.html?ito=feeds-newsxml)  (At least there's a possibility of farm fresh bacon on long international flights now.)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 18, 2012, 10:31:02 AM
Michele Bachmann = Joe McCarthy in a skirt? (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jul/18/mccain-huma-abedin-attacks-bachmann?newsfeed=true)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 18, 2012, 10:37:00 AM
Oof da.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 19, 2012, 03:10:48 AM
Quote from: Dana Milbank
Paul didn’t really argue with Bernanke; he used his time to deliver mini-lectures.

Exit the Artist of the Mini-Lecture (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-ron-paul-fed-up-with-trying-to-end-the-fed/2012/07/18/gJQAdirNuW_story.html?hpid=z3)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 20, 2012, 08:10:32 AM
Awesome, just what we need. (http://www.heraldextra.com/news/science/health-med-fit/health/cdc-whooping-cough-numbers-rising-alarmingly/article_db0377b3-7575-55c2-b4b9-be18a9b0013b.html)  And it apparently isn't directly attributable to increasing anti-vaccine stupidity.  What a shame that, as anti-vaccine bozos will undoubtedly attempt to use this as an argument against vaccination.

(I suppose this could actually be considered important, but I didn't want to start a new thread.)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Szykneij on July 20, 2012, 03:50:49 PM
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Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 29, 2012, 04:06:24 PM
This confirms it: Mayor Bloomberg has gone insane. (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/mayor_knows_breast_WqU1iYRQvwbEkDuvn0vb1H)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 29, 2012, 04:20:51 PM
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I like this, Tony, and I'm adding it to my timeline at Facebook.

Thank you very much . . . .
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: eyeresist on July 29, 2012, 09:04:42 PM
This confirms it: Mayor Bloomberg has gone insane. (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/mayor_knows_breast_WqU1iYRQvwbEkDuvn0vb1H)

Breast is best, man, you know that.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 30, 2012, 05:47:57 AM
Breast is best, man, you know that.


Hey, I love breasts, but that doesn't mean the heavy hand of the nanny state should get involved in such a fashion.  Bloomberg is approaching a Michele Bachmann level of crazy.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 30, 2012, 06:22:55 AM
. . .  Bloomberg is approaching a Michele Bachmann level of crazy.

Oh, he's got more work to lay in for that.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 30, 2012, 06:35:09 AM
Oh, he's got more work to lay in for that.



Well, last week he also suggested in a TV interview with Piers Morgan that police should go on strike until stricter gun laws are passed. 
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 30, 2012, 06:45:59 AM
All right, I allow he's been busy at it . . . .
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Gurn Blanston on July 30, 2012, 06:55:02 AM


Well, last week he also suggested in a TV interview with Piers Morgan that police should go on strike until stricter gun laws are passed.

I actually used to think that he had done some good for NYC, and he did in his first couple of terms. But now, he has totally lost his mind. His working philosophy appears to be that if the City pays anything at all to deal with the effects of something (fat food, soda, smoking, guns, boobs etc) then it is within his purview to pass a law controlling how those items are distributed. I respectfully disagree.   $:)

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Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Est.1965 on July 30, 2012, 07:09:06 AM
I actually used to think that he had done some good for NYC, and he did in his first couple of terms. But now, he has totally lost his mind. His working philosophy appears to be that if the City pays anything at all to deal with the effects of something (fat food, soda, smoking, guns, boobs etc) then it is within his purview to pass a law controlling how those items are distributed. I respectfully disagree.   $:)

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I have done some reading up on this.  It is my view that he verges on being unAmerican and tacitly dictatorial.  Most unusual.   :(
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 30, 2012, 07:19:58 AM
But now, he has totally lost his mind.


It is my view that he verges on being unAmerican and tacitly dictatorial.


Both true statements.  But then, I guess it's not too surprising.  The richest (or perhaps second richest, but who keeps track) New Yorker has the term limit law changed so he can remain mayor for four more years, and in his last term he shows his true colors.  He's done some good, no doubt about it, but now it is time for him to go.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on July 30, 2012, 11:24:42 AM
Go! And never darken our towels again.

I well recall a long article about him in the UK press at the end of his first term, it all seemed so sane and reasonable then. But I guess pretty much getting your own way for a decade does the old corrupting thing.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: eyeresist on July 30, 2012, 05:42:31 PM
I'm in favour of the nanny state, particularly if it is a naughty nanny  ;)

But seriously, people are idiots, and in most cases benefit from being told what to do.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 30, 2012, 06:18:39 PM
But seriously, people are idiots, and in most cases benefit from being told what to do.


The first part of your statement is debatable.  The second is not: it is pure bullshit. 
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 31, 2012, 02:47:32 AM
Remove plastic from Tater Tots before placing in oven.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 01, 2012, 12:58:44 AM
In my opinion, this news is important; but . . . maybe no one hears about it, since all the attention is naturally on the Olympics and the Mittster.

Power grid failure in India leaves 620 million without electricity (http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2012-07-31/india-power-outage/56600520/1)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Brian on August 01, 2012, 05:04:49 AM
London mayor Boris Johnson is stuck on a zip line:

(https://twitpic.com/show/large/ae7ldx)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Gurn Blanston on August 01, 2012, 05:19:29 AM
In my opinion, this news is important; but . . . maybe no one hears about it, since all the attention is naturally on the Olympics and the Mittster.

Power grid failure in India leaves 620 million without electricity (http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2012-07-31/india-power-outage/56600520/1)


My first thought on reading this yesterday is that it will prove to have been an early experiment in hacking the grid as an act of sabotage/war. We aren't far down the list of probable targets for next time.  :-\

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Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Gurn Blanston on August 01, 2012, 05:20:14 AM
London mayor Boris Johnson is stuck on a zip line:

(https://twitpic.com/show/large/ae7ldx)

Don't worry, Boris, the crane will save you!!  :D

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Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 01, 2012, 05:39:25 AM
My first thought on reading this yesterday is that it will prove to have been an early experiment in hacking the grid as an act of sabotage/war. We aren't far down the list of probable targets for next time.  :-\

8)

It's not all that long ago that I watched Live Free or Die Hard for the first time . . . .
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on August 01, 2012, 05:47:08 AM
In my opinion, this news is important



I think it's safe to say that anything that affects over 600 million people can be considered important.  I don't know whether it's terrorism/war or simply faulty, decaying, out-of-date infrastructure to blame (I'd lean toward this), but in either case, this serves as a dramatic reminder that things like basic infrastructure should be taken into account and properly funded.  I certainly hope it gets sorted out as soon as practicable.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ataraxia on August 01, 2012, 07:41:19 AM
Pray-o-mat
http://www.manchester.ac.uk/aboutus/news/display/?id=8550 (http://www.manchester.ac.uk/aboutus/news/display/?id=8550)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on August 01, 2012, 01:10:29 PM
Hmm. (http://popwatch.ew.com/2012/08/01/sight-and-sound-greatest-films-poll-citizen-kane-vertigo/)

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on August 02, 2012, 01:01:51 AM
I see Gore Vidal has popped his Versace clogs. The Times, (London), provided especially splenetic comment; suggesting that he had outlived public taste for his clotted fiction and basically consigning him into celeb cold storage. Are USers sorry to notice that he has at last slipped off the chat show couch?

Mike
Title: Re: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 02, 2012, 02:02:21 AM
I see Gore Vidal has popped his Versace clogs.

Now there's an image! Mike, ye've done it again!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ataraxia on August 02, 2012, 02:57:27 AM
I see Gore Vidal has popped his Versace clogs. The Times, (London), provided especially splenetic comment; suggesting that he had outlived public taste for his clotted fiction and basically consigning him into celeb cold storage. Are USers sorry to notice that he has at last slipped off the chat show couch?

I didn't know he had been recently alive until the news of his death. I didn't care for his fiction but enjoyed listening to him talk.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 02, 2012, 02:58:23 AM
I didn't know he had been recently alive until the news of his death.

+1

(Just didn't want to be the first to say it.)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on August 02, 2012, 03:18:15 AM
Yes, it is sometimes pleasant to encounter the smell of fresh creosote being applied. Listening to him being interviewed was something of a guilty pleasure. Today's Times has the formal obit which is more balanced. I think it explained that his original first name was Gene. He changed it by age 14. Gene Vidal, even more of a hairdresses's name than the one he chose.

Omnivorous on several levels: he certainly made it a point of honour to bite the hands that fed.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 02, 2012, 03:19:42 AM
He rejected Tiger Vidal early on.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on August 02, 2012, 03:21:35 AM
Miaow, Ggrrrrrrr.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ataraxia on August 02, 2012, 03:22:26 AM
"Andy Warhol is the only genius I've ever known with an IQ of 60." -- Gore Vidal

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-best-quotes-of-gore-vidal-who-died-last-night-2012-8
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 02, 2012, 03:33:21 AM
Gore would have appreciated this anti-obit (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/gore-vidal-nihilist/2012/08/01/gJQALDJvPX_blog.html?hpid=z3).

Quote from: :Chas Lane"
Gore Vidal’s career illustrates the price America – “the most ignorant first world country on earth,” in his estimation – cheerfully pays for the First Amendment, and I certainly defend his right to say every one of the repugnant and stupid things he said.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on August 02, 2012, 03:33:35 AM
They seem to have missed this zinger which a friend of mine quoted on to Facebook. It is with reference to Ronald Regan. 'He is not clear about the difference between Medici and Gucci. He knows Nancy wears one of them.'

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on August 02, 2012, 03:39:27 AM
Wow Karl, that article sure has a masterly pay off line.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ataraxia on August 02, 2012, 03:43:21 AM
I'm not sure I agree with that article--something in me doesn't--but I don't care to think about it much longer either.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 02, 2012, 03:47:28 AM
I'm not sure I agree with that article--something in me doesn't--but I don't care to think about it much longer either.

He links to another dissenting article (http://www.salon.com/2007/01/03/vidal_10/), with its share of insights.

Quote from: Allen Barra
Since he was the one who brought up “sickening narcissism,” let’s go ahead and say it: The personal note in Vidal’s work, whether he was ostensibly writing about politics, literature, aviation or anything else, was never “occasional.” The “geography” of his own life has been virtually his only subject, which means that his new memoir, “Point to Point Navigation,” a follow-up to “Palimpsest” (1996), the first memoir he promised not to write, is, by definition, unnecessary.

“[T]he first memoir he promised not to write” . . . sometimes I think I live to read lines like that.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 02, 2012, 03:52:47 AM
Allen Barra couldn't be a pseudonym, could it?  I am sure that's a phrase I heard one night when a fellow tried singing “Barbara Allen” after two pints too many at the St Botolph Club . . . .
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 02, 2012, 04:07:48 AM
He links to another dissenting article (http://www.salon.com/2007/01/03/vidal_10/), with its share of insights.

Luckily, I had not just taken a sip of coffee when reading this:

Quote from: Allen Barra
Note to Mel Gibson: Next time simply drop a few anti-Christian slurs into your tirades, and you will find many are willing to regard you not as an anti-Semite but as an intellectual.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on August 02, 2012, 06:29:50 AM
Since when did the Washington Post start publishing articles from The Onion? (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/think-tanked/post/arnold-schwarzeneggers-newest-career-professor-and-think-tanker/2012/08/02/gJQAhNnhRX_blog.html?hpid=z4)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on August 02, 2012, 06:50:36 AM
He links to another dissenting article (http://www.salon.com/2007/01/03/vidal_10/), with its share of insights.


I guess I'm too young to care about Gore Vidal much at all.  I figured the whole thing with Timothy McVeigh showed him to be just an old coot suffering from dementia and remaining in the public eye because of past glories, but maybe he was a great man. 
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on August 02, 2012, 08:57:04 AM
No, I don't believe he was ever a great man, but he managed a good hour of fame.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: eyeresist on August 02, 2012, 05:09:42 PM
"Andy Warhol is the only genius I've ever known with an IQ of 60." -- Gore Vidal

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-best-quotes-of-gore-vidal-who-died-last-night-2012-8

Good stuff, but was he really the first person to say "No good deed goes unpunished" (which I believe is the correct form of the saying)? It sounds like Oscar Wilde.

As for his legacy, like most I haven't read the novels. They may be great for all I know, but I have little interest in the details of US history. So he was a witty after-dinner speaker. There are worse ways to be remembered.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 03, 2012, 03:00:49 AM
The jury is still out, of course, but my money is on his not being particularly remembered for anything (unlike Wilde).
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: jwinter on August 03, 2012, 08:24:22 AM
 Quote from: eyeresist on August 02, 2012, 10:09:42 PM (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php?topic=6347.msg649233#msg649233)
Good stuff, but was he really the first person to say "No good deed goes unpunished" (which I believe is the correct form of the saying)? It sounds like Oscar Wilde.

As for his legacy, like most I haven't read the novels. They may be great for all I know, but I have little interest in the details of US history. So he was a witty after-dinner speaker. There are worse ways to be remembered.
   
Re: Gore Vidal:
I read Lincoln about a decade ago and thoroughly enjoyed it -- an excellent evocation of the period, if done with a bit of dramatic license regarding minor details.  I've tried three times to start Burr, but just can't get into it, despite an interest in the subject matter.  Live from Golgotha was amusing, though it's obviously trying too hard to shock, and the effort shows.  His essays are a mixed bag -- it seems like for every brilliant one (and there are quite a few) there is one that's just catty, venal, or (in the case of his political writings post 9/11) patently idiotic.  And I have a hard time sympathizing with someone who lived with (and is buried next to) their same-sex partner for half a century, and yet denied to his dying day that homosexuality even existed, and was stridently anti-gay rights.   
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on August 17, 2012, 12:48:52 PM
Note to self: Do not move to Russia and start a punk band (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/aug/17/pussy-riot-sentenced-prison-putin), especially given my penchant for hooliganism.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Scarpia on August 24, 2012, 03:42:04 AM
Norway killer gets 21 years for slaughter of 77 people, mostly children???
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 24, 2012, 03:51:04 AM
What, does Norway not give life sentences in such cases?

It near horrified me, reading of the lengths to which some were suggesting they should go, to treat this recreant as somehow "mentally ill."  Norway, there is a reason you have courts as distinct from hospitals.  Get your damned heads straight.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on August 24, 2012, 05:06:38 AM
Apparently, in Norway, a person can be held for longer than the maximum sentence if they are deemed a threat.  If that is the case, it's hard to see how Breivik will be freed. 
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Scarpia on August 25, 2012, 02:17:26 PM

If I didn't know better I'd say god is smiting the Republicans.

Quote
Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus made the following statement: ‘Due to the severe weather reports for the Tampa Bay area, the Republican National Convention will convene on Monday August 27th and immediately recess until Tuesday afternoon, August 28th. After consulting with Governor Scott, NOAA and local emergency management officials, we are optimistic that we will begin an exciting, robust convention that will nominate the Romney-Ryan ticket.’”

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: eyeresist on August 26, 2012, 04:51:31 PM
Norway killer gets 21 years for slaughter of 77 people, mostly children???

Hate to say it, but I think the court has proved Breivik's point.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Scarpia on August 26, 2012, 04:58:55 PM
Hate to say it, but I think the court has proved Breivik's point.

The fact that criminal penalties in Norway are less severe than expected proves Breivik's point that people who condone multiculturalism should be murdered in cold blood, including children?  You'll have to lead me through that logic one step at a time.   :)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: eyeresist on August 26, 2012, 05:40:38 PM
The fact that criminal penalties in Norway are less severe than expected proves Breivik's point that people who condone multiculturalism should be murdered in cold blood, including children?  You'll have to lead me through that logic one step at a time.

No, I mean the more general point that Norwegian official culture is PC to the point of idiocy, at least on the face of it.

According to Der Spiegel (http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/anders-breivik-sentenced-to-21-years-for-norway-attacks-a-851948.html): "The judged [sic] deemed Breivik to be sane and handed down the country's maximum permissible sentence. ... The judges sentenced him to 21 years in prison followed by preventative detention."

So the law's maximum penalty for murder is 21 years, apparently regardless of the number of people killed (so he serves 99.61 days for each victim). And then, after the sentence is served, there's still "preventative detention". I wonder if a Norwegian lawyer could explain this to us?


EDIT: Here is Wikipedia's explanation of the law:

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Life imprisonment in Norway (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_imprisonment_in_Norway)

There is no sentence of life imprisonment in Norwegian law. There is however an indeterminate penalty that could in principle result in life imprisonment, but there are no examples of such after the latest correctional law passed in 2002. There are basically two types of maximum penalty laws:

■The maximum determinate penalty is 21 years imprisonment, but only a small percentage of prisoners serve more than 14 years. Prisoners will typically get unsupervised parole for weekends etc. after serving ⅓ of their sentence (a maximum of 7 years) and can receive early release after serving ⅔ of their sentence (a maximum of 14 years). In 2008, to fulfill its requirements under the Rome Statute, Norway created a new maximal penalty of 30 years for crimes against humanity.

■The indeterminate penalty, called "preventive detention" (Norwegian: forvaring) is set at up to 21 years imprisonment, with no eligibility for parole for a time period not exceeding 10 years. If the prisoner is still considered dangerous after serving the original sentence, the detention can be extended by five years at a time. Renewal of the detention every five years can in theory result in actual life imprisonment. Preventive detention is used when the prisoner is deemed a danger to society and there is a great chance of committing violent crimes in the future. However, after the minimum time period has elapsed, the offender can petition for parole once every year, and this may be granted if it is determined that the offender is no longer a danger to society.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Scarpia on August 26, 2012, 05:49:47 PM
As was mention above somewhere, preventative detention presumably allows him to be held indefinitely if he is judged to be a threat to society.   Doesn't seem so different from the US system.  Mark David Chapman was sentenced to 20 years for killing John Lennon, but he's still behind bars.  His parole is denied like clockwork every year.


Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on August 28, 2012, 10:37:36 AM
So, the stoners I went to middle school and high school with may not end up the brightest bulbs. (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-57501243-10391704/smoking-marijuana-regularly-as-a-teen-may-lower-iq-scores-as-an-adult/)  Who knew?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on August 29, 2012, 06:58:33 AM
Things that make you go WTF?!? (http://rt.com/art-and-culture/news/hitler-outlet-ahmedabad-jews-807/)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: eyeresist on August 29, 2012, 04:54:15 PM
Things that make you go WTF?!? (http://rt.com/art-and-culture/news/hitler-outlet-ahmedabad-jews-807/)

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"Hitler was a nickname given to my business partner Manish Chandani's grandfather because of his strict nature. Frankly, till the time we applied for the trademark permission, I had only heard that Hitler was a strict man,” Rajesh Shah who owns the shop told The Times of India daily.

“It was only recently that we read about Hitler on the internet,” he added.

Of course, given that the shop's logo title incorporates a swastika, this is rather hard to swallow.


But I can't help feeling sorry for all those people called Hitler who had to change their name (though my guess is there are a few left in Austria ;) ). At least Stalin had the decency to use a made-up alias.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: eyeresist on September 05, 2012, 07:08:22 PM
Quote
Strange Death of the English Gentleman (http://www.standpointmag.co.uk/critique-september-12-strange-death-of-the-english-gentleman-andrew-gimson-david-cameron-thomas-arnold)

The idea of a gentleman was a more inclusive one than it sounds to modern ears. One of its greatest advantages was that you could define it so as to include yourself. You could behave like a gentleman, without possessing any of the social attributes which a gentleman might have: there was no need to possess a coat of arms, or a country estate, or engage in field sports, or wear evening dress. At least since Chaucer's time, there had been a distinction between the social meaning of the word, and the moral. It was evident that well-born people, who ought to know how to behave like gentlemen, did not always do so, while others sometimes did.

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on September 10, 2012, 05:37:41 AM
Cartoonists are just plain dangerous. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/10/indian-cartoonist-jailed-sedition)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 11, 2012, 04:42:13 AM
R.E.M. blasts Fox for using tune (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/post/rem-blasts-fox-for-using-tune/2012/09/10/1e935856-f922-11e1-8398-0327ab83ab91_blog.html)

I especially enjoy the curtain line: Fair use is my hero.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on September 17, 2012, 05:40:22 AM
But I thought it was a simple bad dictator/good freedom fighter scenario. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/17/syrian-rebels-accused-war-crimes)  Clearly the US should become more entwined in this one.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on September 21, 2012, 10:32:10 AM
Why all the hating on Chuck? (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/21/chuck-norris-bridge-slovakia)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on September 25, 2012, 07:17:18 AM
The zombie apocalypse is nigh. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/washington-states-first-zombie-bees-reported-parasite-causes-bees-to-fly-at-night-die/2012/09/24/fbcefa56-0677-11e2-9eea-333857f6a7bd_story.html)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on September 27, 2012, 08:19:32 AM
It's like a news headline out of The Simpsons. (http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2012/0927/Italian-seismologists-could-get-four-years-for-incorrect-earthquake-prediction)
Title: Re: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 27, 2012, 09:29:18 AM
It's like a news headline out of The Simpsons. (http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2012/0927/Italian-seismologists-could-get-four-years-for-incorrect-earthquake-prediction)

Oof.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: CriticalI on September 28, 2012, 02:27:06 AM

A review of the 1964 book Anti-Intellectu​alism in American Life:
http://bnreview.barnesandnoble.com/t5/Library-Without-Walls/Anti-Intellectualism-in-American-Life/ba-p/8967

I admit to a certain schadenfreude at how much worse things have grown since the book was written.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on September 28, 2012, 11:48:13 AM
Looks like good editors are hard to find. (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012/09/28/iranian-news-agency-uses-onion-article-as-fact/57851412/1)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on October 02, 2012, 09:44:25 AM
Governor Moonbeam, the master of the cash grab! (http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2019291640_apusprivatesectorretirement.html)  Now, were I less cynical, I might take umbrage at the idea that something can be both “state-run” and “private”.  I might even find the use of negative option enrollment of private employees a bit irritating and heavy-handed.  But I fancy political shenanigans, and it is pretty much impossible to criticize Brown for his blatant dishonesty.  A 3% payroll tax, piggybacking on Social Security, is nothing more than a way to plug the actuary hole in CalPERS funding.  He gets huge sums of money, and can pretend like he’s helping out at the same time.  The dude is brilliant.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on October 22, 2012, 08:28:58 AM
And here I thought the French were supposed to be sophisticated. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2220224/EL-James-Fifty-Shades-Of-Grey-French-translation-fastest-selling-book-Frances-history.html) 

(I think I know who may comprise the audience for the book. (http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/frances-unlikely-import-weight-loss-centers-01122012.html))
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 22, 2012, 09:16:59 AM
Looks like good editors are hard to find. (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012/09/28/iranian-news-agency-uses-onion-article-as-fact/57851412/1)

Trouble is, they decapitated the last ombudsman.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on October 28, 2012, 08:06:13 AM
You can't really blame him, can you? (http://www.inquisitr.com/375941/husband-divorces-sues-wife-for-having-ugly-baby/)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 14, 2012, 09:55:32 AM
There's also a disconnect between the historic level of Congressional unpopularity, and the fact that such a high percentage of incumbent Congressional boneheads handily won re-election.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Mirror Image on November 14, 2012, 10:08:28 AM
I have a confession: I voted for a Republican in the 2012 election. The only reason I did is because this Republican is my Mom's boss at work and she speaks highly of him. My Mom, of course, is a Democrat, but she has said there are many Republicans she works with that she likes. Now, if only Obama and Speaker of the House, John Boehner can work together, than something may get accomplished, but it's not going to work if both parties aren't willing to work together.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on November 14, 2012, 10:21:23 AM
If we sum up all of the votes across all of the districts, Democrat candidates received more votes than Republican candidates.



True, but meaningless.  A more meaningful comparison would be to look at each state individually.  Gerrymandering is widespread, and if Republicans are perhaps better at it, let us not pretend that Democrats don't do the same thing.  The article strikes me as partisan whining.

Now, how to fix it?  I'd love to see non-partisan apportionment after the 2020 census.  How to get there?

Also, I must say that I'd be more concerned if this were new.  After all, the term gerrymandering is two hundred years old. 
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Brian on November 14, 2012, 10:33:41 AM
I have a confession: I voted for a Republican in the 2012 election.
OH NO THE HORROR

Just kidding ;)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on November 14, 2012, 10:44:08 AM
The averaged result is therefore not meaningless, it is an understatment the problem.


It is meaningless.  The fact that Democrats won more votes as a whole nationwide is simply irrelevant to the makeup of the House.  If/when the opposite is true, it will be just as meaningless, as it has been in the past.



The fact that it is not new does not mean it is not a serious problem.  Genocide is not new, it doesn't follow that people should not be concerned about it.


From gerrymandering to genocide in one post.  You're a wee bit prone to hyperbole.  Just one step shy of Godwin's Law, it turns out.

So how to solve such a problem?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Mirror Image on November 14, 2012, 11:58:08 AM
OH NO THE HORROR

Just kidding ;)

I've actually met this guy before and he's a really nice person and treats his employees well, so how could I not? I would have voted for another Republican, but I didn't know at the time of voting my Dad was friends with him.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on November 27, 2012, 07:48:47 AM
Looks like good editors are hard to find. (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012/09/28/iranian-news-agency-uses-onion-article-as-fact/57851412/1)




It has happened again. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/27/china-kim-jong-un)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Papy Oli on March 10, 2013, 04:45:25 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/9920430/Therell-be-roaming-charges-over-the-White-Cliffs-of-Dover.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/9920430/Therell-be-roaming-charges-over-the-White-Cliffs-of-Dover.html)

 :laugh:
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Papy Oli on March 10, 2013, 08:35:15 AM
Life is woof....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/theatre/9919598/Sacked-the-corgi-which-disobeyed-Dame-Helen-Mirren.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/theatre/9919598/Sacked-the-corgi-which-disobeyed-Dame-Helen-Mirren.html)

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Szykneij on March 19, 2013, 03:57:46 PM
Maybe we should have a poll for this one.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/19/penis-caught-in-zipper_n_2907556.html?utm_hp_ref=weird-news (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/19/penis-caught-in-zipper_n_2907556.html?utm_hp_ref=weird-news)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Papy Oli on March 22, 2013, 02:25:22 PM

http://www.letelegramme.com/local/finistere-sud/ouest-cornouaille/capsizun/plogoff/plogoff-le-mystere-du-piano-sur-la-falaise-22-03-2013-2044242.php (http://www.letelegramme.com/local/finistere-sud/ouest-cornouaille/capsizun/plogoff/plogoff-le-mystere-du-piano-sur-la-falaise-22-03-2013-2044242.php)

...a 150kg Piano has been found on a clifftop by ramblers near Plogoff in Brittany, in a hard-to-reach and windswept spot. Mayor and police left baffled  ;D

(http://www.letelegramme.com/images/2013/03/22/2044242_piano2.jpg)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Geo Dude on March 26, 2013, 10:01:30 AM
Easy money. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/25/creationist-trial-bible-genesis-evolution)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Parsifal on April 14, 2013, 09:02:05 AM

Quote
AMSTERDAM (AP) — Justin Bieber has visited the Anne Frank House in Amsterdam, and the museum says the Canadian pop star wrote in the guestbook that he hoped Frank "would have been a Belieber" if she had lived.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2013/04/14/world/europe/ap-eu-netherlands-bieber-anne-frank.html?hp

I'm still patiently waiting for this self-absorbed imbecile's 15 minutes of fame to be over.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on April 14, 2013, 09:11:19 AM
I'm still patiently waiting for this self-absorbed imbecile's 15 minutes of fame to be over.



That his 15 minutes is not over shows very clearly that he (and his manager) is not an imbecile.  Self-absorbed, sure, but celebrities who are not self-absorbed sure seem thin on the ground.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on April 14, 2013, 09:11:43 AM
He just has to be a cretin.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on April 20, 2013, 03:57:53 PM
I wonder if something similar is being created for West Virginia. (http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2013/04/18/business-iceland-geneaology-smartphone-app.html?cmp=rss)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Gurn Blanston on April 20, 2013, 04:09:56 PM
I wonder if something similar is being created for West Virginia. (http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2013/04/18/business-iceland-geneaology-smartphone-app.html?cmp=rss)

Probably too late already. Alas, they will go the way of Arkansas.... :)

8)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on April 22, 2013, 05:30:09 AM
Talk about uncomfortable labor relations. (http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2013/04/19/Bus-drivers-to-strike-because-uniform-pants-are-too-tight/UPI-59041366394339/)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: snyprrr on April 30, 2013, 07:48:57 PM
Man Dies in Meat Blender

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/worker-dies-blender-oregon-meat-215004163.html

Sir Loin?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Parsifal on May 01, 2013, 12:23:16 PM
Microsoft has captured 0.4% of the tablet market with Windows RT  (200,000 units out of 49.2 million).

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2013/05/01/technology/ap-us-tec-tablet-sales.html?hp

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Parsifal on May 08, 2013, 12:20:35 PM

Minnesota Orchestra cancels current season due to labor dispute and Music Director Vanska threatens to resign. 

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/05/08/labor-dispute-effectively-ends-minnesota-orchestras-season/

Oh, well.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on May 12, 2013, 12:22:43 PM
I'm guessing these would be placed next to traditional snack vending machines. (http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-05-09/medbox-dawn-of-the-marijuana-vending-machine)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: CaughtintheGaze on May 22, 2013, 12:43:43 AM
My first blog post: http://therhetoricofsilence.blogspot.com/2013/05/nanotechnological-futures-reality-of.html?m=1
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on May 23, 2013, 04:20:24 PM
There really is no point to satire anymore. (http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2013/05/13/un_wants_you_to_eat_more_bugs.html)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on May 27, 2013, 09:16:01 AM
I'll take 'Brazen Religious Discrimination' for $800, Alex. (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/world/asia/a-region-in-myanmar-limits-births-of-muslims.html?_r=0)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on May 29, 2013, 07:46:53 AM
I don't mean to be picky, but os that unimportant?

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on May 29, 2013, 02:29:44 PM
I don't mean to be picky, but os that unimportant?



Pfft, they're Burmese.  Who thinks what happens to them is important?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on June 02, 2013, 11:28:32 AM
Hooray!!! (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/01/us-russia-submarines-patrol-idUSBRE95007V20130601)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 03, 2013, 02:25:12 AM
Of course, a runaway llama would be named "Scooter."
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 03, 2013, 11:54:37 AM
Okay, so I never knew until today that the boysenberry is a cross of European raspberry, Common blackberry, and loganberry.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on June 05, 2013, 05:15:21 PM
This is why I use T-Mobile. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/06/nsa-phone-records-verizon-court-order?guni=Network front:network-front main-2 Special trail:Network front - special trail:Position1)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Octave on June 07, 2013, 12:21:33 AM
Actually, probably important to Turks, but still...Twitter haters have an ally in Turkey.

Quote from: Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan
"There is now a menace which is called Twitter," Erdogan said. "The best examples of lies can be found there. To me, social media is the worst menace to society."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/02/turkish-protesters-control-istanbul-square (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/02/turkish-protesters-control-istanbul-square)

Big ups to Turkish protesters!  Especially those out the elements in Istanbul and elsewhere, today/tonight.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 07, 2013, 04:06:18 AM
Although, on the face of it, he's right in a sense: honkin' great examples of lies can be found on social media.
 
And on fora; I mean, look at Sean squawking about 9/11 . . . .
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on June 07, 2013, 04:25:53 AM
honkin' great examples of lies can be found on social media.



Nuh-uh.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 07, 2013, 04:35:54 AM
Shuckins.
Title: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Geo Dude on June 07, 2013, 07:57:01 PM

This is why I use T-Mobile. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/06/nsa-phone-records-verizon-court-order?guni=Network front:network-front main-2 Special trail:Network front - special trail:Position1)
(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/E/v/5/obama-share-everything.jpg)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on June 09, 2013, 07:20:34 AM
At last, container ships won't have to go around Cape Horn any more. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/06/nicaragua-china-panama-canal)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Parsifal on June 14, 2013, 12:19:25 PM
House approves measure to have military branches share one camouflage pattern

Do they really have this much time on their hands in the House.  They're legislating camouflage patterns?  Is it really that expensive to have more than one pattern?  When you go to H&M they have hundreds of patterns to pick from.  Maybe they should contract the uniforms to H&M.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/house-approves-measure-to-have-military-branches-share-one-camouflage-pattern/2013/06/14/017700f6-d4ff-11e2-bc43-c404c3269c73_story.html
Title: Too Much Gabagool (capocollo)
Post by: Parsifal on June 20, 2013, 10:37:56 AM

James Gandalfini dies of an apparent heart attack at 51.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/20/arts/television/james-gandolfini-sopranos-star-dies-at-51.html?hp&_r=0

He was great on the Sopranos, and in True Romance.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on June 25, 2013, 06:01:20 AM
No more bunga bunga? (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/24/silvio-berlusconi-guilty-underage-prostitute)   :(
Title: What is he waiting for?
Post by: Parsifal on June 25, 2013, 04:06:01 PM
It appears Snowden has been hiding in the transit area of Moscow Sheremetyevo airport for several days.  Since he has not attempted to leave the terminal he has not presented himself to Russian passport control and Russia can say with some justification that they have had nothing to do with him.  (He passed through Hong Kong passport control, so they can make no such denial.)

In principal Snowden can get on any plane that departs that terminal and fly anywhere without dealing with passport control of any country until he arrives and tries to leave the airport.  However, an airline will never let you on the plane until you satisfy them that you will be admitted to the country you are flying to (they don't want to be stuck with you).  Why did Aeroflot let him on board the plane, even if Hong Kong let him leave?  I don't suppose any airline that operates in the US would touch him with a 10 foot pole. 

What is his plan, I wonder?  What airline would take him as a passenger?  The US would probably seek to block any airline that transported him from every flying to a US airport, which can't be good for business.  Havana and North Korea seem like his only options.  (Is Snowden really that stupid?)  Fascinating. 

It seems like that Tom Hands movie, "The Terminal" come true.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on June 25, 2013, 04:55:57 PM
One can only hope that Snowden provided copies of everything he obtained to someone with the express instruction of releasing all of it at once in the event he dies in a fiery plane crash, or fiery car crash, à la Michael Hastings.  Accidents happen, you know.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 26, 2013, 04:24:41 AM
Ed Markey won the US Senate race here in the Commonwealth. (If Scott Brown accomplished nothing else — not to say he didn't accomplish anything else, though I do not happen to know of anything — he taught the Massachusetts Dems not to be compacent about any race.)  As Kerry's term is up shortly, anyway, Markey will resume campaigning before long to earn a proper six-year term.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on June 27, 2013, 06:00:51 AM
Has Obama contracted Biden's Foot In Mouth infection? (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/27/obama-edward-snowden-wheeling-dealing#start-of-comments)


I know the prez is fond of snarky jibes, but a comment about scrambling jets is a bit much for the Commander in Chief, it seems to me.  Did he come up with this sharp one on his own in response to the question from the reporter?  Maybe he just needs the reporters to politely submit questions before press conferences so he can follow a script.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Brian on June 27, 2013, 06:48:52 AM
He already screwed himself over on Syria last year, or maybe early this year?, with the "red line" comment where he offhandedly and impromptu-ly committed himself to fighting if the improvised line was crossed.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on June 27, 2013, 07:00:11 AM
Indeed.  Didn't TR suggest speaking softly and carrying a big stick?  Looks like Obama subscribes to the exact opposite approach.  I'm not certain this helps the US diplomatically.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Brian on June 27, 2013, 07:05:10 AM
Indeed.  Didn't TR suggest speaking softly and carrying a big stick?  Looks like Obama subscribes to the exact opposite approach.  I'm not certain this helps the US diplomatically.
Alas, that seems to be the case.

The Senate just voted 100-0 in favor of the Transportation Secretary nominee. Wonder how often 100-0 is these days.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on June 27, 2013, 07:12:11 AM
The Senate just voted 100-0 in favor of the Transportation Secretary nominee. Wonder how often 100-0 is these days.



Pretty rare.  Looks like Obama chose a safe nominee who knows how to schmooze.  It helps that it's the Transportation Department.  Leon Panetta garnered a 100-0 vote for Defense before he took the job, but as The Economist noted at the time, Panetta was everyone's idea of a safe pair of hands. 
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 28, 2013, 10:32:10 AM
Only 27 percent of eligible Massachusetts voters cast a ballot in Tuesday's election, a record low that fell short of even the secretary of State’s pessimistic prediction that a third of voters would go to the polls.

RTWT here (http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/Senate/2013/0626/Edward-Markey-wins-a-low-turnout-big-spending-Massachusetts-Senate-race?nav=291938-csm_subcategory-leadStory).
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on June 30, 2013, 08:02:49 AM
International standing of the United States is at an all time high! (http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/eu-officials-furious-at-nsa-spying-in-brussels-and-germany-a-908614.html)

(Maybe Biden can work the phones a bit, and get the same type of satisfactory results he got by talking with Rafael Correa . . .)

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Brian on June 30, 2013, 08:06:09 AM
I guess the NSA was recording the polling company's calls.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 01, 2013, 08:43:22 AM
Obama, the chief diplomat of the United States, has revealed the heretofore unknown fact that Europeans spy on the US. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/01/obama-europe-monitoring-data-surveillance)  So, Mr Shoot From the Hip is relying on a "They Do It, Too!" style of diplomacy.  Splendid. 
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 02, 2013, 08:16:17 AM
Did Obama fib about how accurate drones are? (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/02/us-drone-strikes-afghan-civilians)  Inconceivable!  Note that the discrepancy is from a study conducted by a military adviser.

(This reminds me of a quip made by a general during the first Gulf War, which was something along the lines of: all bombs are smart; they all hit the ground.)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Parsifal on July 04, 2013, 06:11:35 AM
Egypt's first democratically elected president toppled in a military coup.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/05/world/middleeast/egypt.html?hp

Sad.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 04, 2013, 07:48:49 AM
Sacre bleu!!!! (http://www.worldcrunch.com/world-affairs/exclusive-french-intelligence-has-its-own-version-of-prism/dgse-prism-secret-service-france-big-brother-/c1s12643/)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 04, 2013, 09:04:04 AM
Egypt's first democratically elected president toppled in a military coup.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/05/world/middleeast/egypt.html?hp

Sad.
What was interesting was a quote I heard a while ago- some young Egyptian guy remarking that the reason why any older person is always going to take the role of a dictator in Egypt is because they have dictators at home (fathers). It would be interesting to see if a younger person in power would be more appreciated (and less power-hungry).
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Parsifal on July 04, 2013, 09:07:22 AM
What was interesting was a quote I heard a while ago- some young Egyptian guy remarking that the reason why any older person is always going to take the role of a dictator in Egypt is because they have dictators at home (fathers). It would be interesting to see if a younger person in power would be more appreciated (and less power-hungry).

What evidence do you have that he was "power hungry?"
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 04, 2013, 09:07:54 AM
What evidence do you have that he was "power hungry?"
I'm saying what they said.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: North Star on July 07, 2013, 06:06:13 AM
Brazilian mob decapitates soccer referee after he stabs player
...12 Brazilian cities host the 2014 soccer World Cup and Rio de Janeiro the Olympic Games in 2016... (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/feedarticle/10871761)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 07, 2013, 08:22:38 AM
D'you suppose it's all that Villa-Lobos they listen to? . . .
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: North Star on July 07, 2013, 12:06:22 PM
D'you suppose it's all that Villa-Lobos they listen to? . . .
Shostakovich was an amateur soccer referee, you know - thank goodness not in Brazil!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Parsifal on July 07, 2013, 12:17:36 PM
Shostakovich was an amateur soccer referee, you know - thank goodness not in Brazil!

Well, I doubt Shostakovich ever murdered a player on the field, as the decapitated referee apparently did.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: North Star on July 07, 2013, 12:42:47 PM
Well, I doubt Shostakovich ever murdered a player on the field, as the decapitated referee apparently did.

Obviously not - though we don't know whether the murdered player threatened the referee or tried to attack him. And there was the Colombian soccer player Andrés Escobar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrés_Escobar), who was killed by a cartel bodyguard and accomplices for accidentally deflecting the ball into his own net in a game against USA, resulting in their elimination - and big losses for gamblers.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Geo Dude on July 08, 2013, 09:18:47 AM
Rick Perry just announced that he won't be making another (likely successful) run for governor of Texas.


Good riddance!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 08, 2013, 09:22:41 AM
If such a run would likely succeed . . . one wonders why he's giving it over.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Parsifal on July 08, 2013, 09:53:31 AM
If such a run would likely succeed . . . one wonders why he's giving it over.

Needs to spend more time memorizing the list of cabinet departments he would abolish as President.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Geo Dude on July 08, 2013, 06:09:04 PM
If such a run would likely succeed . . . one wonders why he's giving it over.

Perhaps after a 12 year empire he's bored?  He may be thinking of another presidential run...he seems to lack the self-awareness required to realize what a disaster that would be.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 09, 2013, 04:13:19 AM
Perhaps after a 12 year empire he's bored?  He may be thinking of another presidential run...he seems to lack the self-awareness required to realize what a disaster that would be.

That would certainly be considered a plus for the Democratic Party.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 09, 2013, 05:24:53 AM
That would certainly be considered a plus for the Democratic Party.




First he would need to win the nomination.  Not saying it couldn't happen, but he couldn't beat the field of B, C, and D-list talent last time out. 
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Brian on July 09, 2013, 05:42:23 AM
Rick Perry just announced that he won't be making another (likely successful) run for governor of Texas.

Good riddance!
Unfortunately, we're now stuck with Greg Abbott, unless Wendy Davis can convince all the old fuddy-duddies not to vote.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 09, 2013, 05:59:52 AM
First he would need to win the nomination.  Not saying it couldn't happen, but he couldn't beat the field of B, C, and D-list talent last time out. 

A good point, but if he's a player for long in the primaries, a plus for the Democratic Party, as it was last year. There are factions in the G.O.P. which it is in the party's own interests to put a lid on, and put it on tight.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Geo Dude on July 09, 2013, 08:21:14 AM
There are factions in the G.O.P. which it is in the party's own interests to put a lid on, and put it on tight.

It's hard to argue with that.

I haven't lived in Texas for a while and so have no basis for comparison.  What was it about his term(s) in office that you found unsatisfactory?

The battle he's waged on women's rights, LGBT rights and education immediately come to mind--specifically, in regards to education, trying to shove creationism into science classes and (bad) right wing revisionism into history classes--are all issues.  I'm also not fond of his "Let's make Texas a great state for business by cutting away as many water and air quality regulations as possible" attitude.  Or trying to literally make the state into a (nuclear) dumping ground for the rest of the country.  And his shilling for toll road companies.  And...Christ, I lean more libertarian (occasionally conservative) than left for the most part, and the guy still drives me nuts.  The list could go on.

Let's not worry too much, though, Governor Goodhair's legacy will no doubt be revised in Texas history books to make him the best governor the state ever had if the current abuse of textbooks that he's helped start continues.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 09, 2013, 08:23:41 AM
Governor Goodhair . . . you brought me back to Romney's tenure here in The Bay State with that 'un . . . .
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Geo Dude on July 09, 2013, 08:25:15 AM
Governor Goodhair . . . you brought me back to Romney's tenure here in The Bay State with that 'un . . . .

Well, he always did have well coiffed hair on the campaign trail. ;D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Brian on July 09, 2013, 08:36:56 AM
specifically, in regards to education, trying to shove creationism into science classes and (bad) right wing revisionism into history classes--
You missed his efforts to control public universities' curricula.

And also, a few weeks ago Rick Perry vetoed a bill by mistake (http://www.statesman.com/news/news/state-regional-govt-politics/senator-says-perry-vetoed-his-bill-by-mistake/nYQzB/). Oops!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 09, 2013, 08:46:55 AM
And also, a few weeks ago Rick Perry vetoed a bill by mistake (http://www.statesman.com/news/news/state-regional-govt-politics/senator-says-perry-vetoed-his-bill-by-mistake/nYQzB/).



"It is much more important to kill bad bills than to pass good ones.”  Calvin Coolidge


Let's give the man with the mane the benefit of the doubt, here; he was trying to kill bad legislation.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 09, 2013, 08:49:41 AM
Some good news for the US! (http://www.salon.com/2013/07/08/mexico_replaces_us_as_worlds_fattest_populous_nation_partner/)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: North Star on July 09, 2013, 09:00:35 AM
Some good news for the US! (http://www.salon.com/2013/07/08/mexico_replaces_us_as_worlds_fattest_populous_nation_partner/)
Yeah, you can have bigger holes in the fence now :D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 09, 2013, 09:14:51 AM
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Weight-related diabetes claims the most Mexican lives each year, with nearly one of every six Mexican adults suffering from the disease. Heart and related ailments round out the list of the country’s top killers.

Diabetes alone kills as many as 70,000 people a year in Mexico . . . .

(* sigh *) That's what claimed my dad, too.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Parsifal on July 11, 2013, 07:01:36 AM
The latest is that the summer concerts have been canceled and meetings to decide on whether to have more meetings seem to have broken down.

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/07/11/as-labor-dispute-drags-on-minnesota-orchestra-cancels-summer-concerts/?src=twrhp

Maybe this is the end of the Minnesota Orchestra.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Parsifal on July 11, 2013, 08:36:05 AM
Sad for Minnesotans, I really hope it is just a bump in the road.  Here in Nashville the Symphony was on the verge of bankruptcy before being saved by a long time donor literally hours before the deadline.  Hopefully, they can get their financial house in order; it is a good group with imaginative programming.

Remember the phrase "corporate citizenship?"  When corporations had a geographic identity it was important.  Now that the economy is increasingly dominated by multinational corporations I suspect the concept has become obsolete.  I suspect Minnesota donors are already tapped out by a renovation of the concert hall a few years ago which gave the orchestra a hall with a state-of-the-art lobby and amenities.  Too bad there's no orchestra there anymore.  :(
 
http://www.minnesotaorchestra.org/give-a-volunteer/building-for-the-future/construction/about-the-renovated-orchestra-hall

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: North Star on July 11, 2013, 08:42:18 AM
This is terrible to hear. Will be interesting to see where's Vänskä's new post.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Parsifal on July 11, 2013, 12:50:18 PM
This is terrible to hear. Will be interesting to see where's Vänskä's new post.

Vanska has threatened to resign if the situation is not resolved in time for a scheduled Carnegie Hall Concert and/or recording session.  At the moment, he's keeping his options open.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: North Star on July 11, 2013, 01:07:14 PM
Vanska has threatened to resign if the situation is not resolved in time for a scheduled Carnegie Hall Concert and/or recording session.  At the moment, he's keeping his options open.
It's a shame if he won't be able to finish the Sibelius cycle.

On the subject of unimportant news: it is now one o'clock in the morning here, and some jerk (or two) are working with a nail gun and compressor. Might not bother others, but I'm listening to Webern.  >:(
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Parsifal on July 11, 2013, 01:17:20 PM
It's a shame if he won't be able to finish the Sibelius cycle.

On the subject of unimportant news: it is now one o'clock in the morning here, and some jerk (or two) are working with a nail gun and compressor. Might not bother others, but I'm listening to Webern.  >:(

Well, he's already lost close to a year of his professional life.  I'm not sure why he would want to wait any longer.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: North Star on July 11, 2013, 01:26:30 PM
Well, he's already lost close to a year of his professional life.  I'm not sure why he would want to wait any longer.
Indeed.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Brian on July 11, 2013, 02:16:10 PM
Microsoft told the NSA how to unlock the software encryption on Outlook emails. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/11/microsoft-nsa-collaboration-user-data)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 12, 2013, 07:24:59 AM
Hopefully, Senator Wyden is correct, (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/12/senator-ron-wyden-white-house-data-collection) though this strikes me as a first step only, and then only if it actually happens.  I'd wager on it, but the problem is that we will probably never know, especially if Obama and his crew keep squeezing the press. 
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 14, 2013, 05:24:43 PM
Next-gen drone warfare is just around the corner. (http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-navy-drone-x47b-20130709,0,6990478.story)  Just remember, the USA are the good guys.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 15, 2013, 10:42:49 AM
Possibly stemming from the era of the nearly banned super-size soft drinks . . . an mp3 album where Amazon has the unfortunate typo Symphonie Fat-astique (http://www.amazon.com/The-Alan-Gilbert-Era-Begins/dp/B0060BNK3M/ref=sr_1_7?s=dmusic&ie=UTF8&qid=1373917231&sr=1-7&keywords=Gilbert%2C+Alan)
Title: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Geo Dude on July 16, 2013, 03:13:54 AM

Possibly stemming from the era of the nearly banned super-size soft drinks . . . an mp3 album where Amazon has the unfortunate typo Symphonie Fat-astique (http://www.amazon.com/The-Alan-Gilbert-Era-Begins/dp/B0060BNK3M/ref=sr_1_7?s=dmusic&ie=UTF8&qid=1373917231&sr=1-7&keywords=Gilbert%2C+Alan)

Hah!

You know, Bloomberg has a lot of money and NYC is certainly a classical loving city...perhaps you could get him to commission a sequel and have your big commercial break. ;)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 16, 2013, 03:17:52 AM
(* chortle *)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Geo Dude on July 17, 2013, 03:33:25 AM
I suppose that any publicity is good publicity... (http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/07/17/rolling-stone-features-dzhokhar-tsarnaev-on-cover/)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 17, 2013, 12:42:17 PM
Time to get hopping mad? (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/17/nsa-surveillance-house-hearing)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Parsifal on July 18, 2013, 11:42:49 AM
The city of Detroit, once the forth most populous city in the US, has filed for bankruptcy

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/19/us/detroit-files-for-bankruptcy.html

The Detroit Symphony is still operating (they still have electricity, apparently). 
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 19, 2013, 02:54:11 AM
It will be the ultimate insult if they have to shoot RoboCop III in Akron . . . .
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 22, 2013, 07:53:44 AM
Well, I guess I'll have to cross the UK off my list of potential places to live . . . (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/jul/22/david-cameron-crackdown-internet-pornography)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Geo Dude on July 23, 2013, 05:22:05 AM
Massive prison break in Abu Ghraib (http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/22/19615653-al-qaeda-prison-break-hundreds-of-militants-flee-iraqs-notorious-abu-ghraib-jail).  Mind you, this qualifies as unimportant because the Royal Baby matters more. :P



(I've got nothing against the baby or the parents, I just think it's ridiculous that it gets more news coverage than something like that.)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 23, 2013, 05:32:22 AM
Massive prison break in Abu Ghraib (http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/22/19615653-al-qaeda-prison-break-hundreds-of-militants-flee-iraqs-notorious-abu-ghraib-jail)



I'd hate to be the keeper of disposition matrix this morning.  A case of the Mondays - on a Tuesday!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Geo Dude on July 24, 2013, 08:39:27 AM
Evil men, beware...of the Burka Avenger. (http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/ap-exclusive-pakistans-hero-burka-avenger-19759553)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Geo Dude on July 25, 2013, 11:27:53 AM
Yeah, this pretty much summarizes the situation... (http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20130725.png)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Brian on July 27, 2013, 08:35:40 AM
I love how originally this thread was about unimportant news but at some point the title became sarcastic and now it's about major news stories.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Geo Dude on July 28, 2013, 11:37:18 AM
I love how originally this thread was about unimportant news but at some point the title became sarcastic and now it's about major news stories.

To be fair, we do get some unimportant news here.  For example, this one has shades of the polygamy debate (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/17/socially-anxiety-dating-government-should-pay-women-date-men_n_3293626.html) in it.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 29, 2013, 05:25:07 AM
Something for American authorities to ponder in light of the news that Mexico is now fatter than the US. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23475583)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 29, 2013, 07:43:49 PM

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TAVARES, Fla. -
Injuries have been reported after an apparent large scale explosion and fire that happened at a Blue Rhino propane facility on County Road 448 just south of Lake Eustis late Monday night, according to Lake County EMS officials.
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/major-explosion-fire-at-propane-facility-in-tavares/-/1637132/21239266/-/xjbrv6z/-/index.html


So I guess this is what I've been hearing for the last two hours... continuing explosions.

Quote
"It sounds like bombs are going off," Norma Haygood said.

Locals from miles away said they heard and felt the explosions.
Exactly.

http://www.wesh.com/news/central-florida/locals-report-seeing-explosions-in-tavares-area/-/11788162/21238754/-/2fkube/-/index.html


http://www.youtube.com/v/3XiwxRxrJdQ
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Gurn Blanston on July 31, 2013, 04:57:58 AM
Actually, I thought this was rather more important to some of us than to others!

Stolen Strad finally found - British Transport Police said Tuesday they found a stolen 300-year-old Stradivarius violin worth more than $1 million, along with two bows valued at more than $105,000.

Police released few details about how they found the items that were stolen in late 2010 near a London train station. They were found at a house in central England.

The violin was recovered intact with some very minor damage, they said.

"We're delighted to have recovered the violin after a long and very complex investigation," said Detective Chief Inspector Simon Taylor, who led the hunt.

He said members of other police forces, an insurance company, and antique dealers helped with the investigation.

Two teenagers were arrested and sentenced in 2011 in connection with the theft of the 1696 Stradivarius.

The violin's owner, acclaimed violinist Min Jin Kym, noticed her case containing the violin and bows was missing and called police.

She said she thought about the theft every day, even in her dreams, and was elated to learn it was found.

Stradivarius violins were made by the world's most celebrated violin maker, Antonio Stradivari, in the 1600s.

It is thought that from 1666, the Cremona, Italy-born Stradivari made 1,116 instruments, of which more than 600 are still in existence, including violas, cellos, mandolins and guitars.

During the 18th century, his unrivaled reputation extended throughout Europe where his instruments were coveted by royalty, aristocracy, church dignitaries and top musicians because of the extraordinary sound they were capable of producing.

Stradivari made his last violin in 1737 when he was 92. (http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/30/world/europe/uk-violin-found/index.html?hpt=hp_c3)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 31, 2013, 05:02:17 AM
Thank you, Gurn. I had seen the headline, but hadn't looked into the story yet.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 31, 2013, 05:41:26 AM
Just when you thought you've found the dumbest possible regulation . . . (http://www.thelocal.se/49336/20130730/)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Szykneij on July 31, 2013, 10:23:08 AM
Sweet story.

http://www.purpleclover.com/video/721-5-year-old-prodigy-performs-101-year-old/?icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-main-nb%7Cdl7%7Csec3_lnk1%26pLid%3D351799
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 31, 2013, 11:04:31 AM
http://www.theonion.com/articles/fucking-loser-at-movie-all-by-himself,33302/
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Sergeant Rock on August 01, 2013, 07:00:26 AM
Lindsay Lohan leaves rehab:

http://www.wwtdd.com/2013/07/lindsay-lohan-leaves-rehab/


"Statistically speaking, there’s only a hundred percent chance that Lindsay will start using again."
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Gurn Blanston on August 01, 2013, 07:10:35 AM
Lindsay Lohan leaves rehab:

http://www.wwtdd.com/2013/07/lindsay-lohan-leaves-rehab/


"Statistically speaking, there’s only a hundred percent chance that Lindsay will start using again."

But she has her Sobriety Coach now.... :D

8)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on August 01, 2013, 08:33:32 AM
Hummmm..... (http://www.nbcnews.com/science/mysterious-hum-driving-people-crazy-around-world-6C10760872)


Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 01, 2013, 08:47:17 AM
Hummmm..... (http://www.nbcnews.com/science/mysterious-hum-driving-people-crazy-around-world-6C10760872)
Interesting...
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on August 01, 2013, 10:07:29 AM
Interesting...

And seeing as I'm approaching 50 I think I'd better avoid those parts of the world. :D


Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on August 02, 2013, 05:51:12 AM
I thought Russia was our ally. (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/02/world/europe/edward-snowden-russia.html?_r=0) 

Truth be told, what I like most is the headline: Defiant Russia Grants Snowden Year’s Asylum.  The implication seems to be that all sovereign nations should agree to demands from Emperor Obama.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Parsifal on August 02, 2013, 06:00:49 AM
The thing that struck me about that story is that Snowden's "lawyer" held up his passport and displayed his Russian visa for the press to photograph.  Now we have lots of interesting tidbits about Snowden, such as date of birth, passport number, etc.  Even his fingerprint is clearly visible.  That can't be good.

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on August 05, 2013, 12:50:13 PM
Another venerable paper now in the clutches of an evil billionaire! (http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/washington-post-to-be-sold-to-jeff-bezos/2013/08/05/ca537c9e-fe0c-11e2-9711-3708310f6f4d_story.html)


(When I saw the headline, I was happy, because I thought my Amazon Prime account might afford me unlimited access to the WAPO site, but no, it looks like this is possibly Bezos' personal plaything.)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: modUltralaser on August 15, 2013, 06:57:44 PM
Oprah is blowing it. Pulls the race card purchasing a 38,000 bag and is now found to be pro-circumcision.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on August 16, 2013, 05:36:00 AM
I am shocked, shocked to learn that secret orders by secret courts were secretly ignored. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/nsa-broke-privacy-rules-thousands-of-times-per-year-audit-finds/2013/08/15/3310e554-05ca-11e3-a07f-49ddc7417125_story.html?hpid=z1) 


How I love this sentence: The government was made aware of The Post’s intention to publish the documents that accompany this article online.  Go get 'em, Tiger!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Parsifal on August 17, 2013, 06:34:31 PM
I read that Don Harmon is returning as showrunner in Community Season 5 (after being fired before season 4).
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on August 22, 2013, 05:09:40 AM
Some of the better aspects of ACA are starting to materialize. (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-21/ups-to-end-insurance-coverage-for-15-000-working-spouses.html)  Oddly, this doesn't square with what the Prez said in 2009 in New Jersey:

First of all, if you’ve got health insurance, you like your doctors, you like your plan, you can keep your doctor, you can keep your plan.  Nobody is talking about taking that away from you.

Now, of course, many American Lefties/Progressives/Democrats will say that this is purely because of big, bad greedy companies wanting to pinch pennies, or what not, but it seems to me the Prez fibbed and his supporters like being fibbed to. 
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on August 29, 2013, 06:03:05 AM
One word comes to mind: Classy. (http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/aug/26/zurich-drive-in-garages-prostitutes)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Opus106 on August 29, 2013, 06:11:29 AM
And they have publicly available customer reviews too!

Quote
He added: "They do a great job..."
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on August 29, 2013, 02:58:24 PM
One word comes to mind: Classy. (http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/aug/26/zurich-drive-in-garages-prostitutes)

LOL!!


Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Brian on August 30, 2013, 05:38:32 AM
Wait, so let me get this straight. The only foreign power that's gonna fully support us when we jump into a new war is... France?!??!

What a difference 10 years makes.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 30, 2013, 06:11:16 AM
Congress's next move: rechristening them Freedom Muffins!!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on August 30, 2013, 09:10:51 AM
Wait, so let me get this straight. The only foreign power that's gonna fully support us when we jump into a new war is... France?!??!

What a difference 10 years makes.


The support should be considered equivocal. (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/syria-crisis-france-is-no-longer-shouldertoshoulder-with-us-8790541.html)

I suppose this could be France’s way of paying us back for support in Libya and Mali, where the French got to act like Imperial masters from days gone by.  Vive la France!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Brian on September 04, 2013, 06:46:52 PM
BREAKING: François Hollande is happy.

(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr05/2013/9/4/21/enhanced-buzz-19939-1378344050-0.jpg)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on September 04, 2013, 07:06:34 PM
BREAKING: François Hollande is happy.

(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr05/2013/9/4/21/enhanced-buzz-19939-1378344050-0.jpg)



How did that guy manage to get Ségolène Royal and Valerie Trierweiler?  (Maybe lefty women are secretly attracted to powerful men, though they dare not admit it.)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 05, 2013, 10:02:40 AM


How did that guy manage to get Ségolène Royal and Valerie Trierweiler?  (Maybe lefty women are secretly attracted to powerful men, though they dare not admit it.)
What a politically incorrect statement. Women aren't especially attracted to men with power or money.  :P ;)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on September 06, 2013, 07:34:45 AM
This kind of makes me think that electronic voting is a good idea. (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/05/nsa-gchq-encryption-codes-security)



[Edit: updated to today's revelations, not July's.  They are becoming too similar.]
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Parsifal on September 06, 2013, 04:00:55 PM

This graph shows the percentage of the US population which has a job or is looking for a job.

(http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/SQPTlGzDVl.CDqVfxO5fmg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTQ5OA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/the-exchange/LFPRFromBLS.png)

Oh dear,  unemployment is inching down from crisis levels just because more and more people have given up finding a job.  Most of those who gave up are in the 18-24 year old age group.  Yikes!

Maybe Syria isn't our biggest problem right now.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on September 06, 2013, 05:27:11 PM
Maybe Syria isn't our biggest problem right now.



It's impossible for any sane person to argue with that, though a protracted, large-scale war could add to employment . . .
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Parsifal on September 06, 2013, 05:32:26 PM
It's impossible for any sane person to argue with that, though a protracted, large-scale war could add to employment . . .

You're suggesting that we can send all those unemployed and unemployable 18-24 year olds to be gassed in Syria?  No wonder they call economics "the dismal science."
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on September 06, 2013, 05:33:53 PM
You're suggesting that we can send all those unemployed and unemployable 18-24 year olds to be gassed in Syria?  No wonder they call economics "the dismal science."


I was thinking more along the lines of weapons manufacture, but your idea has its merits.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 06, 2013, 05:58:45 PM
You're suggesting that we can send all those unemployed and unemployable 18-24 year olds to be gassed in Syria?  No wonder they call economics "the dismal science."
That'll teach 'em a lesson for livin'! Murrica!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on September 07, 2013, 06:57:05 AM
A local story, but one that I do enjoy. (http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2013/09/solarworld_files_court_appeal.html)  A foreign corporation operating in the US wants the US Federal Government to raise tariffs - again - on the Chinese.  Even Willis Hawley himself might have had a problem with this.  One thing is certain, the consumer will win in the end.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: springrite on September 09, 2013, 03:55:54 AM
A 64 year old Japanese profession and former Olympic athlete suggested that Hide and Seek should be added as an Olympic sport. He believes Tokyo winning its bid for the summer games is the best opportunity to help add Hide and Seek as an Olympic sport. H&S does not require great physical ability, so everyone can participate. It will help many people realise their Olympic dreams where previously it can only be a dream.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 09, 2013, 03:59:45 AM
A 64 year old Japanese profession and former Olympic athlete suggested that Hide and Seek should be added as an Olympic sport.

Take it to the Python, Monty thread, buddy!

http://www.youtube.com/v/Ycb9_Y_gJ-g
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on September 11, 2013, 07:20:35 AM
Let's see if this gets snyprrr riled up . . . (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/11/nsa-americans-personal-data-israel-documents)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 16, 2013, 03:36:00 AM
Let's see if this gets snyprrr riled up . . . (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/11/nsa-americans-personal-data-israel-documents)

You're a cruel man!

Thread duty:

Hawaii’s Allure Is Also a Curse (http://www.pewstates.org/projects/stateline/headlines/hawaiis-allure-is-also-a-curse-85899504290)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: North Star on September 17, 2013, 02:26:06 AM
At last, there is scientific proof that homosexuality is wrong ... proof found by a Nigerian post-grad student with bar magnets and electrolysis  ::).

“For example, when you bring sulphuric acid and you reacts it with sodium hydroxide which is a base you are going to have salt and water. That tells you that the acid is a different body, the base is a different body and they will react. (...) If you bring a base (...) and you pour it on top of a sodium hydroxide you find out that there will be reaction showing that a man on top of a man will have no reaction. A woman on top of a woman will have no reaction, that is what chemistry is showing. Even in chemistry when you also use a process called electrolysis (...) you found that the negative ions will be attracted to the positive ones while the positive ions will be attracted to the negative ones. So the negative ones are not attracted to their peers, they are all attracted to the positive electrode and the positive ones are not attracted to the positive electrode. Instead, the negative ion is attracted to positive electrodes and why is it that the negative is attracted to the positive? It is because they are not the same. Likewise a man cannot be attracted to a man as negative ion is not attracted to the negative electrode instead negative ion is attracted to the positive electrode. That is what electrolysis is showing us that gay marriage is wrong in the area of chemistry." (http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/science-of-gay-marriage/158265/)

Oh, and he also uses as further proof mathematics...
Quote
“If you go on the Internet to check whether there is anybody who has used physics to prove gay marriage wrong, you find out there is none. You go to Google or youtube check whether there is anybody that has used chemistry to find same sex marriage wrong, you find out there is none and the same applies to biology and mathematics."
There might be a very good reason for why nobody else has used mathematics, chemistry or physics. to prove that gay marriage is wrong..
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 17, 2013, 02:45:01 AM
Another day, another bit of junk science . . . .
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on September 17, 2013, 08:53:39 AM
Poor, poor casting, methinks . . . (http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2013/09/17/leonardo-dicaprio-woodrow-wilson-biopic/2825623/)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Brian on September 17, 2013, 08:58:17 AM
Poor, poor casting, methinks . . . (http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2013/09/17/leonardo-dicaprio-woodrow-wilson-biopic/2825623/)
I was very surprised to see that Leo is 38 and Woodrow Wilson became president at 46. I thought Leo was younger and Wilson was older.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Brian on September 17, 2013, 08:58:37 AM
The lead singer of As I Lay Dying, a heavy metal band with a Christian message, will stand trial on charges he tried to hire an undercover sheriff’s deputy to kill his estranged wife, Reuters reported.

On Monday a judge in San Diego County ordered the singer, Tim Lambesis, 32, to be tried in superior court in Vista, Calif. He was arrested in May and charged with soliciting the murder of his wife, Meggan Lambesis. They had been married for eight years, but the relationship fell apart in the spring of 2012 and she had filed for divorce.

The county sheriff said Mr. Lambesis gave an undercover deputy, posing as a hitman named Red, $1,000 in cash, photos of his wife, her address and codes to her home security system. He also gave the deputy a list of dates when he would have their three adopted children with him.

Mr. Lambesis has pleaded not guilty. His lawyer has said he never intended for his spouse to be harmed.
http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/17/metal-singer-to-be-tried-in-murder-for-hire-case/?smid=nytimesarts
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 17, 2013, 09:01:03 AM
There's a fellow with a Cristian message. Oof.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on September 17, 2013, 09:11:24 AM
Woodrow Wilson became president at 46.



He was 56.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Brian on September 17, 2013, 09:46:46 AM
He was 56.
Oops.

I used to be good at math.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 17, 2013, 09:49:37 AM
The lead singer of As I Lay Dying, a heavy metal band with a Christian message, will stand trial on charges he tried to hire an undercover sheriff’s deputy to kill his estranged wife, Reuters reported.
Renamed: "As My Wife Lays Dying"
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 17, 2013, 09:51:42 AM
As My Wife Lies Dying (sorry, ought to be over at The Grumble, I know)   ;D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 17, 2013, 10:18:04 AM
As My Wife Lies Dying (sorry, ought to be over at The Grumble, I know)   ;D
I know, just sticking to the band's format.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 17, 2013, 10:20:11 AM
It is well. Это хорошо.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 18, 2013, 02:45:55 AM
I know, just sticking to the band's format.

Greg, if you feel that I was bullying you (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,10977.msg741467.html#msg741467) in even the slightest, I wish to apologize, publicly and abjectly.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Papy Oli on September 18, 2013, 01:26:16 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2013/sep/18/bbc-presenter-broadcast-paper-ipad (http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2013/sep/18/bbc-presenter-broadcast-paper-ipad)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: North Star on September 18, 2013, 08:36:38 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2013/sep/18/bbc-presenter-broadcast-paper-ipad (http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2013/sep/18/bbc-presenter-broadcast-paper-ipad)
:D Reminds me of the Finnish national broadcasting company's English News presenter who got fired...
http://www.youtube.com/v/iKANLsIClpw
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Parsifal on September 19, 2013, 03:40:45 AM
:D Reminds me of the Finnish nationald broadcasting company's English News presenter who got fired...
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/iKANLsIClpw

White box, pretty innocuous.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: North Star on September 19, 2013, 03:43:46 AM
White box, pretty innocuous.
Fixed. (I wouldn't like to see a white box instead of the news broadcast, though.)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 19, 2013, 03:50:28 AM
:D Reminds me of the Finnish nationald broadcasting company's English News presenter who got fired...
:P
That had to have been a joke that didn't quite have the expected impact...



Greg, if you feel that I was bullying you (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,10977.msg741467.html#msg741467) in even the slightest, I wish to apologize, publicly and abjectly.
Not at all... lol, the idea of correcting someone's grammar being "bullying" is a strange one.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Parsifal on September 19, 2013, 03:51:45 AM
:P
That had to have been a joke that didn't quite have the expected impact...

I can only conclude that that concept of a "joke" has not reached Finland.  :(
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Opus106 on September 19, 2013, 04:38:01 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2013/sep/18/bbc-presenter-broadcast-paper-ipad (http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2013/sep/18/bbc-presenter-broadcast-paper-ipad)

I love the one from outside St. Mary's Hospital.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on September 20, 2013, 08:21:04 AM
File under: Holy Shit! (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/20/usaf-atomic-bomb-north-carolina-1961)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 20, 2013, 08:37:44 AM
How good and pleasant that we can read that in The unimportant news thread!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Cato on September 20, 2013, 08:58:55 AM
File under: Holy ... (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/20/usaf-atomic-bomb-north-carolina-1961)

Having grown up near Wright-Patterson AFB in Dayton, I can attest that squadrons of B-52's and their KC-135 tankers were in the air daily back in the good old days!

We were often told "officially" that no nuclear bombs were in the airplanes, and if they were in the B-52's, that they could not detonate because of all the safeguards.

But everyone knew...it was just the risk of living in the Cold War.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 20, 2013, 09:31:57 AM
Ah, yes, all the safeguards . . . although Kubrick made it into a black comedy, the source novel for Dr Strangelove was apparently in dead earnest.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on September 24, 2013, 06:24:23 PM
I was wondering what Dominique Strauss-Kahn has been up to lately. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2430551/Patrick-sexist-Western-lowland-gorilla-Dallas-Zoo-sent-therapy-biting-female.html)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on September 28, 2013, 05:27:44 AM
Goodness me, he has let himself go.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Parsifal on September 30, 2013, 07:51:04 AM
The New York City Opera is closing, after 70 years.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/29/arts/music/city-opera-takes-what-is-expected-to-be-a-final-bow.html?_r=0
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Szykneij on October 01, 2013, 11:35:17 AM
After some initial digs, a Dutch filmmaker believes he may have found the site of buried Nazi treasure long rumored to exist. He was led to the Bavarian town of Mittenwald after cracking a code believed to be hidden in a music score --  an annotated score of the "March Impromptu" by composer Gottfried Federlein.  


http://abcnews.go.com/International/secret-code-music-score-lead-nazi-gold/story?id=20323786 (http://abcnews.go.com/International/secret-code-music-score-lead-nazi-gold/story?id=20323786)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on October 01, 2013, 12:14:18 PM
Nazi gold is even better than pirate gold!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on October 04, 2013, 05:14:39 PM
So, I'm guessing gas prices should be coming down soon . . . (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303492504579111360245276476.html)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Parsifal on October 05, 2013, 04:28:34 AM
According to this Times article, one reason the NY City Opera went bust is some of its wealthy patrons weren't amused the production of an Opera based on the life of Anna Nicole Smith and the octogenarian oil tycoon she married.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/arts/music/the-frenzied-last-act-effort-to-save-city-opera.html?hp
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on October 06, 2013, 09:07:21 AM
This must be part of the 'winning hearts and minds' strategy. (http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/10/5/five-afghan-civilianskilledinnatoairstrikeofficialssay.html)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on October 10, 2013, 08:01:29 AM
Nothing to see here. (http://www.cpj.org/reports/2013/10/obama-and-the-press-us-leaks-surveillance-post-911.php)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on October 11, 2013, 03:37:50 PM
In the words of Richie Cusack from A History of Violence: "How do you fuck that up? (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57606961/vatican-recalls-pope-francis-medals-after-jesus-name-misspelled/)"
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Brian on October 12, 2013, 08:42:33 AM
Man shot in Russian grocery after argument over Kant (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/16/us-russia-kant-shooting-idUSBRE98F0DI20130916)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on October 17, 2013, 06:58:39 AM
I love Mitch McConnell. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/16/mitch-mcconnell-budget-deal_n_4111387.html)  The fact that he can plausibly deny involvement makes me love him even more. 
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Sergeant Rock on October 17, 2013, 07:40:22 AM
House Stenographer Snaps, Rants About Freemasons, During Late-Night Vote (http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/10/17/house_stenographer_snaps_rants_about_masons_during_late_night_vote.html)

Have we found snyprrr?

Sarge
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Brian on October 17, 2013, 08:22:05 AM
House Stenographer Snaps, Rants About Freemasons, During Late-Night Vote (http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/10/17/house_stenographer_snaps_rants_about_masons_during_late_night_vote.html)

Have we found snyprrr?

Sarge
The idea of snyprrr being female boggles my mind.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Parsifal on October 17, 2013, 09:29:24 AM
another feel-good tale (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/niels-gerson-lohman/us-border-crossing_b_4098130.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on October 19, 2013, 07:58:41 AM
Um, ouch. (http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/17/world/meast/iran-execution-survivor/)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: kishnevi on October 19, 2013, 04:46:28 PM
Um, ouch. (http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/17/world/meast/iran-execution-survivor/)

That sort of thing used to happen in Britain back in the 18th century from time to time, and the official policy was always (according to a quick check of Blackstone's Commentaries) to re-hand the condemned person,  on the technical grounds that since death had not resulted, the hanging had not been carried out the first time--and on the practical grounds that to otherwise would inevitably result in collusion and corruption if someone could arrange a mock hanging.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on October 22, 2013, 06:40:03 AM
I wonder if maybe this will get the supposedly anti-war lefties and other do-gooders here in the US up in arms, and if the American press will start pressuring Barry O more. (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/amnesty-international-us-drone-strikes-in-pakistan-may-constitute-war-crimes-8896530.html)  Actually, I don't. 

And really, "war crimes"?  Hasn't Chomsky and his ilk been saying for decades that every post-war American administration has committed war crimes?  (Along with pretty much every pre-war American administration.)  Why would Barry O be any different, except for his promise to bring change you can believe in?  Anyway, which other state, combination of states, or international organization has the power to actually pursue war crimes charges against an American leader?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on October 25, 2013, 08:42:52 AM
More good news on the ACA front. (http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2013/10/22/florida-blue-canceling-300000.html)



This here shows but one reason why Republicans were stupid to make such a big issue out of Obamacare: the insurance industry benefits.  They can now drop lower premium, bare-bones policies and replace them with higher premium policies that will be subsidized by taxpayers.  And there will ultimately be a lot more customers.  Did the Republicans forget that they are the party of business?  Their favored donors didn't.

Now, the botched roll-out, that's something that can be used for political purposes for at least a while, though I'm guessing that by November of next year, most systems will be running in adequate or close to adequate fashion.  Still, I'm hoping for some political blood.  Ms Sebelius is as good a target as any.  Let's see that head roll.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on October 29, 2013, 07:24:09 AM
The US slowly, slightly expands military operations in Africa. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/kony-2013-us-quietly-intensifies-effort-to-help-african-troops-capture-infamous-warlord/2013/10/28/74db9720-3cb3-11e3-b6a9-da62c264f40e_story.html)  A lengthy article, but a good one.  Some nice excerpts:


The hunt is one of the most unusual military operations since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. Kony is not an Islamist extremist or a narcotics smuggler. He poses no jeopardy to the United States, nor is he an existential risk to any African nation. Although he once held sway over a substantial portion of central Africa, the Ugandan military campaign to neutralize him, which began more than a decade before U.S. troops arrived in the region, has shooed him from populated areas. His ranks decimated, he is thought to command fewer than 250 fighters.

Even so, U.S. military officers and diplomats in the region contend that he remains a target worth pursuing.

“Is Joseph Kony a direct threat to the United States? No,” said Scott DeLisi, the U.S. ambassador to Uganda. “He’s not targeting U.S. citizens. He’s not targeting U.S. embassies. He’s not al-Qaeda.”

Instead, DeLisi said, Kony merits U.S. involvement because his malign behavior runs counter to “our core values.”

“Why is the United States engaged in the world, for God’s sake?” he said. “If we are true to what we believe in as Americans . . . we need to get rid of Joseph Kony.”




Is “our core values” the new-fangled version of White Man’s Burden?



When Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) placed a hold on the legislation, the [activist] groups [like Invisible Children] rallied students to sleep on the sidewalk in front of his office in Oklahoma City. Despite the frigid nights, the crowd swelled to more than 150. After 11 days, Coburn caved.


So now the young are used by supposed do-gooders to pressure Congress to engage in more military action?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 29, 2013, 12:08:23 PM
snypsss, it could be worse: there could be clouds of sriracha in your air (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2013/10/29/california-city-sues-over-cloud-of-sriracha/).
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on November 02, 2013, 09:12:41 AM
Wait just a minute: this article would seem to imply that recent European indignation at being spied on by the big, bad NSA may just be a wee bit disingenuous. (http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/nov/01/gchq-europe-spy-agencies-mass-surveillance-snowden#start-of-comments)  That cannot be.  European leaders are righteous and honest.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on November 02, 2013, 11:13:13 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/03/opinion/sunday/friedman-calling-america-hello-hello-hello-hello.html?smid=tw-TomFriedman&seid=auto&_r=0

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Brian on November 03, 2013, 07:37:05 AM
"The agency’s Dishfire database — nothing happens without a code word at the N.S.A. — stores years of text messages from around the world, just in case. Its Tracfin collection accumulates gigabytes of credit card purchases."

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/03/world/no-morsel-too-minuscule-for-all-consuming-nsa.html?hp&_r=0

"Presto Classical, ImportCDs, EuropaDisc, MDT, Arkivmusic... yeah, we don't need to worry about these guys."

EDIT: Heh, there's also the slightly amusing revelation that the NSA spies on Israeli military officials.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on November 03, 2013, 03:12:44 PM
EDIT: Heh, there's also the slightly amusing revelation that the NSA spies on Israeli military officials.
Uh-oh... don't tell snyprrr... or do tell him?  ???
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on November 04, 2013, 08:02:15 AM
An amusing morning on the ACA front:

Amusing Item 1: A fun article. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/for-consumers-whose-health-premiums-will-go-up-under-new-law-sticker-shock-leads-to-anger/2013/11/03/d858dd28-44a9-11e3-b6f8-3782ff6cb769_story.html?wpisrc=nl_politics)  Just who did higher-income (ie, above the subsidy ceiling), self-insured people who voted for Obama and wanted ACA think would feel the brunt of this law?   

Amusing Item 2: It's funny to watch the hippy-dippy owners of a local business I frequent change all their workers over to part-time.  I'm sure their actions have nothing to do with the health care law.

Amusing Item 3: The subsidy ceiling for a family of four where I live is about $67K a year.  It's a small subsidy, yes, but I have have a feeling public health care expenditures may end up growing more than various leaders let on.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on November 06, 2013, 11:08:29 AM
Behold: The Canadian Marion Barry! (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/mayor-rob-ford-won-t-step-down-despite-crack-use-1.2415533)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on November 07, 2013, 07:38:40 AM
Okay, so first some doofuses on the Sörmland County Council in Sweden aim to prevent men from urinating while standing up, and now there’s this. (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/06/swedish-cinemas-bechdel-test-films-gender-bias)  Is Sweden involved in some type of large-scale pharmacological experiment?  (I hope -abe- doesn't read this.)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Brian on November 07, 2013, 09:57:10 AM
Okay, so first some doofuses on the Sörmland County Council in Sweden aim to prevent men from urinating while standing up, and now there’s this. (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/06/swedish-cinemas-bechdel-test-films-gender-bias)  Is Sweden involved in some type of large-scale pharmacological experiment?  (I hope -abe- doesn't read this.)

It sounds like they won't ban anything, just have a scorecard system.

Sweden is also home to the world's largest pile of wood.

(http://www.funnyandhappy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Huge-warehouse-strains.jpg)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on November 07, 2013, 10:09:28 AM
It sounds like they won't ban anything, just have a scorecard system.



No, they won't ban anything, at least not yet, but the intention is very clearly to sway viewing habits by deploying an arbitrary, purely political rating system.  If it works, the entities imposing it (apparently, move theaters in this case, at least for now) will be influencing expressive content through economic coercion.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Brian on November 07, 2013, 10:26:00 AM
No, they won't ban anything, at least not yet, but the intention is very clearly to sway viewing habits by deploying an arbitrary, purely political rating system.  If it works, the entities imposing it (apparently, move theaters in this case, at least for now) will be influencing expressive content through economic coercion.

It's Cass Sunstein's paternalist politics at work. (Or Mike Bloomberg's, but in this case, it doesn't raise any issues of liberties etc.) It raises issues of how their government is choosing to spend money on these report cards, but I don't see any other objection. Of course, I'm in favor of the principle; movies and other genres of art are too male-dominated and the fact that most in-demand actresses are either It Girls or Distinguished Old Eminences speaks to a sexism we have never been able to scrub out.

Heck, even the movie they're championing, Hunger Games, is headlined by an It Girl, though fortunately a talented one.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on November 07, 2013, 10:34:06 AM
Of course, I'm in favor of the principle



Of course, Swedes can spend money in any way they see fit, but in principle I am strongly opposed to the state or any of its agents using political and economic power to curb, in any way, free expression; liberty is affected.  This type of coercion is intrinsically insidious.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: edward on November 07, 2013, 05:12:23 PM
Behold: The Canadian Marion Barry! (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/mayor-rob-ford-won-t-step-down-despite-crack-use-1.2415533)
This one's getting more fun every day. Now there's a video of him in a massive tantrum threatening to kill some unspecified person, and there's one video in police hands whose content hasn't been publicized yet. However, local media has been hinting (none too subtly) that it may be a sex tape.

I suppose I should feel some compassion for the guy, but given that he's rampagingly incompetent and a wife-beater to boot, I don't.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Szykneij on November 09, 2013, 07:28:48 AM
Hope this wasn't Karl!    :o      ;D

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/08/saxophone-lung-clean-clarinet-instrument-woodwind_n_4221368.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/08/saxophone-lung-clean-clarinet-instrument-woodwind_n_4221368.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on November 13, 2013, 01:51:40 PM
Healthcare.gov a huge success; enrollment numbers exceed expectations. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/house-committee-hears-from-technology-officials-on-health-care-exchanges/2013/11/13/91d0bc5a-4c6e-11e3-9890-a1e0997fb0c0_story.html)


(I wonder if anyone floated the idea of having a company like Amazon or perhaps an insurance company build the site.)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 14, 2013, 04:53:49 AM
Hope this wasn't Karl!    :o      ;D

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/08/saxophone-lung-clean-clarinet-instrument-woodwind_n_4221368.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/08/saxophone-lung-clean-clarinet-instrument-woodwind_n_4221368.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular)

No, no, my recent absence really was a vacation, and not a blind for The Kenny G Saxophone Lung Rehab Clinic & Wellness Spa.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on November 14, 2013, 12:26:26 PM
Man, the ACA rollout is better than Republicans hoped for. (http://money.cnn.com/2013/11/14/news/economy/obamacare-insurance/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)  Slick Willy said it needs to be fixed, and now Barry O offers a fix of sorts to those who wanted to keep their plan by deferring the day of reckoning for one year.  One big caveat:


Quote from: CNN
Since insurance is regulated at the state level, it remains up to the commissioners to permit the extensions and the companies to do so. The president noted that not all commissioners may agree to extensions. At least four states -- California, Idaho, Virginia and Kentucky -- are requiring all individual plans adhere to Obamacare rules.


Looks like ACA will be a 2014 issue, too.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Brian on November 14, 2013, 03:24:10 PM
Unimportant personal news: the NY Times Book Review is going to run a letter I sent them, this Sunday.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 15, 2013, 06:14:39 AM
Hey, nice!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on November 16, 2013, 01:29:07 PM
Yes, the Obama Administration has been different from its predecessors. (http://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/nov/16/timothy-geithner-warburg-pincus-private-equity)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on November 26, 2013, 07:44:01 AM
Note to self: Do not follow up with that Ashley Madison contact in Herat. (http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia/2013/11/afghanistan-plan-stone-adulterers-death-20131125133453835281.html)
Title: The critically important news thread
Post by: Todd on December 02, 2013, 07:58:03 AM
Yes, yes, yes!!! (http://money.cnn.com/2013/12/01/technology/amazon-drone-delivery/)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on December 08, 2013, 04:35:13 PM
I'm no Dylan fan, but this is just all kinds of stupid. (http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/03/world/europe/france-croatia-dylan-hatred/)  And here I thought Yurpeans were all smart 'n' sophisticated and such.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: North Star on December 10, 2013, 10:49:53 AM
I'm not expecting that the Finnish council of Uusimaa will be getting Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences for their bright ideas (http://yle.fi/uutiset/finnish_council_to_spend_tax_revenue_on_lottery_tickets/6978304)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on December 13, 2013, 06:26:25 AM
Obscene. (http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/11/us/texas-teen-dwi-wreck/)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on December 14, 2013, 12:57:08 PM
Obscene. (http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/11/us/texas-teen-dwi-wreck/)

I agree. Is there scope in the system to revisit the sentence? The court is basically reinforcing the lack of guidelines the parents provided.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on December 14, 2013, 05:00:53 PM
Is there scope in the system to revisit the sentence?



I don't think so, but I could be wrong.  The parents may face some civil wrongful death suits.

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 14, 2013, 07:01:57 PM
"Affluenza" niffs of The Onion....
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Brian on December 15, 2013, 07:01:17 AM
Obscene. (http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/11/us/texas-teen-dwi-wreck/)

I also think the prosecution's request for a 20-year sentence is obscene, but the USA has such a proud tradition of obscene sentencing that we're used to it.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on December 15, 2013, 06:54:41 PM
From last year:


Physicists test to see if the universe is a computer simulation
 (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/12/12/physicists-universe-simulation-test-university-of-washington-matrix_n_2282745.html)

Can't really find much about how the tests went or if they have even been conducted yet. I never thought about it, but it seems very likely. Not sure if you could call the creator of this universe "God" or not, though.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on December 15, 2013, 07:05:41 PM

Physicists test to see if the universe is a computer simulation
 (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/12/12/physicists-universe-simulation-test-university-of-washington-matrix_n_2282745.html)



Looks like someone took too much peyote.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on December 15, 2013, 08:23:05 PM


Looks like someone took too much peyote.
When you think about it it doesn't sound too far-fetched, especially if you are one who believes in God.

Humans have created visual simulations for a while, albeit 2D (The Sims, Sim City, etc.). In the future, there may be AI which is as intelligent as people to include in these simulations.

When will humans be able to create something such as a 3D version of The Sims, but with intelligent life? If the intelligent life, planets, etc. were very much microscopic and our invented universe in a large room, it would be eerily like our own universe.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on December 15, 2013, 08:30:25 PM
When you think about it it doesn't sound too far-fetched, especially if you are one who believes in God.

Humans have created visual simulations for a while, albeit 2D (The Sims, Sim City, etc.). In the future, there may be AI which is as intelligent as people to include in these simulations.

When will humans be able to create something such as a 3D version of The Sims, but with intelligent life? If the intelligent life, planets, etc. were very much microscopic and our invented universe in a large room, it would be eerily like our own universe.



Somehow, I'm not surprised that you of all posters put what you think is serious thought into this.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: kishnevi on December 15, 2013, 08:48:39 PM


Somehow, I'm not surprised that you of all posters put what you think is serious thought into this.

I've seen this idea before somewhere (I want to say Bryson or Ferris, but I can't remember which book I saw it in), as a general discussion of the idea of multiverses.   Of course, the conclusion there was that we'd never be able to tell if we were part of a simulation.  Doomsday would be whenver the being in charge of the simulation pulled the plug on it all, of course
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on December 15, 2013, 08:58:12 PM
I've seen this idea before somewhere (I want to say Bryson or Ferris, but I can't remember which book I saw it in), as a general discussion of the idea of multiverses.



I see.  I wonder what type of evidence the previously cited researchers will gather, and if they referred to The Sims in their grant proposals.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 16, 2013, 11:12:53 AM
snypsss was right all along! (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/boehners-blasts-one-more-volley-in-the-long-gop-battle/2013/12/14/bedb636c-6433-11e3-a373-0f9f2d1c2b61_story.html)

Quote from: Dan Balz
In terms of the presidency, many conservatives believe that the GOP has not nominated a true and authentic conservative for the job since Ronald Reagan. (Whether Reagan could win his party’s nomination today, given his gubernatorial record of raising taxes and expanding access to abortion, is another matter.)

(I never doubted it . . . .)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 18, 2013, 12:40:55 PM
Quote
CD 104 of the Stockhausen Complete Edition
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on December 23, 2013, 05:17:14 PM
Inventor of deadliest WMD has passed away. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25497013)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Brian on January 01, 2014, 01:18:03 PM
Just a reminder of the most important news story of 2013:
http://www.salon.com/2013/01/30/death_by_cunnilingus/
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Brian on January 01, 2014, 07:29:04 PM
Science proves it!: dogs prefer pooping facing north or south, not east or west.
http://www.frontiersinzoology.com/content/10/1/80/abstract
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: North Star on January 13, 2014, 06:31:12 AM
Central Africa looks like a nice place to visit.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-25708024
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on January 22, 2014, 07:46:18 AM
Some good news (?) (http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jan/22/eu-carbon-emissions-climate-deal-2030), some bad news (?) (http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jan/19/co2-emissions-outsourced-rich-nations-rising-economies) on the environmental front.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: amw on January 22, 2014, 02:43:39 PM
Classical music does something useful for once: A Gisborne man played classical music to his cannabis plants to encourage the crop to flourish, police say. (http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/9637421/Music-to-grow-cannabis-by)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: 71 dB on January 22, 2014, 03:15:57 PM
Classical music does something useful for once: A Gisborne man played classical music to his cannabis plants to encourage the crop to flourish, police say. (http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/9637421/Music-to-grow-cannabis-by)

Did he play music of Christian Cannabich?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Szykneij on January 22, 2014, 03:29:51 PM
Did he play music of Christian Cannabich?

... as well as William Herman Potstock, Marcus Blunt, and Toke Lund Christiansen.   :)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: North Star on February 04, 2014, 06:28:59 AM
I hope aunty Beeb doesn't think that this shows the impact of unhealthy lifestyle in the postindustrial countries...

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/72740000/gif/_72740002_cancer_cases_624map.gif) (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-26014693)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on February 10, 2014, 07:56:28 AM
The Swiss people vote for openness and cooperation in heartwarming display of European sophistication. (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/11/world/europe/swiss-immigration-vote-raises-alarm-across-europe.html?_r=0)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on February 11, 2014, 03:58:56 PM
Worst instructor EVER! (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/11/world/middleeast/suicide-bomb-instructor-accidentally-kills-iraqi-pupils.html?_r=0)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on February 16, 2014, 02:56:14 AM
Can the sidebar advert for pre-paid funerals be mere serendipity I wonder?

We could do with a few more such show and tell instructors.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: North Star on February 20, 2014, 02:43:13 AM
Ukraine clashes kill 21 more, EU talks shifted (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/20/us-ukraine-idUSBREA1G0OU20140220)

(http://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20140220&t=2&i=843301687&w=&fh=&fw=&ll=700&pl=378&r=CBREA1J0OIS00) (http://www.buzzhunt.co.uk/wp-content/2014/01/Orthodox-priest.jpg)  (http://www.sbs.com.au/news/sites/default/files/styles/full/public/ukraine_clash_getty.jpg?itok=Kao0tQnb)
(http://www.bagnewsnotes.com/files/2013/12/Kiev-1124.jpeg) (http://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/ad127687975kiev-ukraine-f.jpg) (http://rack.1.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDE0LzAyLzE5LzY2L0tpZXZFVS5hMzk3Yi5qcGcKcAl0aHVtYgk5NTB4NTM0IwplCWpwZw/5dc62ede/18a/KievEU.jpg)
(http://media1.s-nbcnews.com/i/newscms/2014_08/195666/140219-ukraine-kiev-square-915a_e456528dc335cf09c004934470a248fb.jpg) (http://scd.france24.com/en/files/imagecache/france24_ct_api_bigger_169/article/image/ukraine-kiev-police-forces_0.jpg) (http://i0.wp.com/blogs.pjstar.com/eye/files/2014/02/ukraine05.jpg?resize=950%2C654)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on February 20, 2014, 08:56:25 AM
This does not seem like unimportant news, but i am not suggesting moving it. Some other items have also been far from trivial. If people want the thread title changed let me know.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: drogulus on February 21, 2014, 01:14:35 PM
I hope aunty Beeb doesn't think that this shows the impact of unhealthy lifestyle in the postindustrial countries...

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/72740000/gif/_72740002_cancer_cases_624map.gif)

     I hope so, too. What it really shows is the longer you live the more likely you will get cancer. Old age is the unhealthiest lifestyle of all.

     Still, there is hope for affluenza victims:

     Enterprising Girl Scout Sells Cookies Outside Marijuana Clinic (http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/02/21/280730201/enterprising-girl-scout-sells-cookies-outside-marijuana-clinic?ft=1&f=1001)

     (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/Smileys/classic/cheesy.gif)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: North Star on February 21, 2014, 01:28:50 PM
I hope so, too. What it really shows is the longer you live the more likely you will get cancer. Old age is the unhealthiest lifestyle of all.
Yeah - the older one gets, the likelier it gets that one dies from something, regardless of where one lives. (barring things like wars, and of course young people tend to die in accidents etc more often than middle-aged people)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 04, 2014, 12:31:58 PM
DC: No slammer for holding loco weed (http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/dc-council-eliminates-jail-time-for-marijuana-possession-stepping-to-national-forefront/2014/03/04/df6fd98c-a32b-11e3-a5fa-55f0c77bf39c_story.html)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 06, 2014, 10:31:43 AM
The average is beautiful doll.

http://www.youtube.com/v/OfQu8pq0kok
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 06, 2014, 10:34:44 AM
Don't want the Respectful Opposition to be heard in Committee? Shut their mics off. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-darrell-issa-silences-democrats-and-hits-a-new-low/2014/03/05/47b11b76-a49b-11e3-a5fa-55f0c77bf39c_story.html)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: snyprrr on March 06, 2014, 10:45:20 AM
obviously i was in a blackout when I made that speel check thread- could someone please delete it karl thank you!!!! haha
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on March 09, 2014, 11:08:38 AM
The average is beautiful doll.
I saw that before. Kinda dumb that there is anyone who expects women to look like a Barbie, which would be freaky, anyway. And of course, there are male action figures/superheroes that unrealistically portray how a man "should" look, but funny to see how no one cares (including me).
Well, stupid people who think everything is offensive, here is your solution.  8)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 10, 2014, 04:04:47 AM
I saw that before. Kinda dumb that there is anyone who expects women to look like a Barbie, which would be freaky, anyway.

I take your point;  but there are enough people around who take seriously the idea that, having such a toy serves as subliminal suggestion, I find it difficult to dismiss the notion as simply dumb.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on March 11, 2014, 04:34:42 PM
I take your point;  but there are enough people around who take seriously the idea that, having such a toy serves as subliminal suggestion, I find it difficult to dismiss the notion as simply dumb.
It seems, though, with that same line of thought that maybe male action figures who looked jacked up on steroids need to be replaced with more realistic proportions, too? If some girls go through anorexia or bulimia (or just lack of confidence) because Barbie is a sort of standard of what women should look like, maybe Superman or He-Man should be less muscular, since you're only gonna get that big and ripped with steroids (and of course their effects are likewise dangerous, not only to users but also to other people). Strangeness of the notion aside, if people are going to take that line of thought, they should at least stick with it for both genders for consistency.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: kishnevi on March 12, 2014, 05:20:34 PM
It seems, though, with that same line of thought that maybe male action figures who looked jacked up on steroids need to be replaced with more realistic proportions, too? If some girls go through anorexia or bulimia (or just lack of confidence) because Barbie is a sort of standard of what women should look like, maybe Superman or He-Man should be less muscular, since you're only gonna get that big and ripped with steroids (and of course their effects are likewise dangerous, not only to users but also to other people). Strangeness of the notion aside, if people are going to take that line of thought, they should at least stick with it for both genders for consistency.

There is actually a subtle difference between the two sexes*--to look like Barbie a girl will have to be born with the right genetic material; if you're born to have big bones,  no amount of effort on your part will slim you down enough to reach Barbie-is proportions., and such efforts as you might make will be inevitably bad for your health.  Whereas no matter what your genetic inheritance,  muscular development aka body building requires intense work on your part.  To the best of my knowledge no one can be born with "good muscles".   And up to a certain level (that level being roughly the point at which steroid intake starts to occur),  the exercise involved in bodybuilding is good for health (and, if your job requires intense physical effort as a normal routine, probably helps you on the job as well).

*Isn't there a difference between gender and sex? Or do I simply have my post modernism all confuzled? 
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on March 12, 2014, 05:32:27 PM
To the best of my knowledge no one can be born with "good muscles".


Actually, some pure (or near-pure) mesomorphs are born with good muscles - ie, they need not engage in any regular physical activity to achieve washboard abs, big arms, etc.  They are rare, but I've personally met some, male and female.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on March 12, 2014, 07:13:59 PM
There is actually a subtle difference between the two sexes*--to look like Barbie a girl will have to be born with the right genetic material; if you're born to have big bones,  no amount of effort on your part will slim you down enough to reach Barbie-is proportions., and such efforts as you might make will be inevitably bad for your health.  Whereas no matter what your genetic inheritance,  muscular development aka body building requires intense work on your part.  To the best of my knowledge no one can be born with "good muscles".   And up to a certain level (that level being roughly the point at which steroid intake starts to occur),  the exercise involved in bodybuilding is good for health (and, if your job requires intense physical effort as a normal routine, probably helps you on the job as well).

*Isn't there a difference between gender and sex? Or do I simply have my post modernism all confuzled?
As intense as you or I could possibly work out, we will never look like this without steroids:

(http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/49448/1032664-he_man_b.jpg)

It's not the exact same situation, but it's pretty similar between genders.... if a woman is just trying to get thin, there's only so far she can go based on genetics. Likewise, if a guy is trying to build muscle, there is only so far he can go based on genetics. I'm just glad that at least most people don't see Barbie or He-man as a model of what a person is "supposed" to look like.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: amw on March 12, 2014, 07:52:14 PM
It's not the exact same situation, but it's pretty similar between genders.... if a woman is just trying to get thin, there's only so far she can go based on genetics. Likewise, if a guy is trying to build muscle, there is only so far he can go based on genetics.

Of course, there are lots and lots of role models for young boys that don't have bulging muscles, whereas there are almost no role models for young girls that aren't thin and beautiful.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on March 12, 2014, 08:08:47 PM
Of course, there are lots and lots of role models for young boys that don't have bulging muscles, whereas there are almost no role models for young girls that aren't thin and beautiful.
Sure, but the issue here is Barbie, or maybe even toy models in general; also, it depends on how you define role model, which can be anything.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: kishnevi on March 12, 2014, 08:16:44 PM
Of course, there are lots and lots of role models for young boys that don't have bulging muscles, whereas there are almost no role models for young girls that aren't thin and beautiful.

Oprah Winfrey?  Certainly she's not ugly, but her career was certainly not built on "look how pretty I am", and her seesaw battle with weight gain is not exactly a secret. 

Barbara Bush, Hillary Clinton, Laura Bush, and Michelle Obama, to name four occupants of the White House whose physical attributes certainly are not part of their success, although I suppose having a career built on the fact that you're married to someone important (even if, like Clinton,  you've carved out your own successful career and political identity) is not a formula most people can follow.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: amw on March 12, 2014, 09:22:54 PM
This does go somewhat beyond the issue of dolls (how many boys play with dolls anyway?) but I think the reason there is much more emphasis on presenting girls than boys with "realistic" models is that influential male public figures—musicians, actors, politicians, news anchors, athletes, etc—present a much wider variety of body types and general appearances than do influential female public figures. I am not by any means saying that e.g. Angela Merkel is supermodel material, but of the women we see on TV, on magazine covers, in photos, advertisements, etc, most of them are not going to look like Angela Merkel. Moreover, there is a tendency to bring up a woman's looks even in cases where they have no relevance to her position (for instance in our own field of classical music one particular study found that female musicians judged to be more attractive were also considered to be worse performers) due to the whole mind/body thing.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: kishnevi on March 13, 2014, 07:17:53 AM
Moreover, there is a tendency to bring up a woman's looks even in cases where they have no relevance to her position (for instance in our own field of classical music one particular study found that female musicians judged to be more attractive were also considered to be worse performers) due to the whole mind/body thing.

That study obviously did not include Sarge.

Boys don't play with dolls; they play with action figures.  And yes,  the difference in terminology probably does mean something.

But your last point is true,  but I thing points to something wider; the assumption many people make that beauty and brains don't really go together--if a woman is pretty, she succeeded on looks (so the prejudice goes) and not on interior qualities;  which is totally unfair both to beautiful and unbeautiful, intelligent and unintelligent.  It's a prejudice that also affects how people view males, with brawn replacing beauty,  albeit not quite so widespread in its impact
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: mc ukrneal on March 13, 2014, 08:05:22 AM
I'm not sure where to post this. It's not unimportant, and it was really interesting. It's a Senate hearing on healthcare with numerous experts and international experience. Check out the Cspan video: http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-watch-a-canadian-20140312,0,2995139.story#axzz2vrJAMJZw (http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-watch-a-canadian-20140312,0,2995139.story#axzz2vrJAMJZw)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Brian on March 24, 2014, 06:01:40 PM
NYT is reporting that Obama will support the end of bulk phone record collection by the NSA and get court approval for any requests from phone companies. The phone companies will be allowed to delete the data after the period they'd normally wait before deleting it. Requesting info for people "two hops" from suspects would still be okay. No word on other parts of the NSA rule. Still... baby steps.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on March 24, 2014, 06:15:57 PM
NYT is reporting that Obama will support the end of bulk phone record collection by the NSA and get court approval for any requests from phone companies. The phone companies will be allowed to delete the data after the period they'd normally wait before deleting it. Requesting info for people "two hops" from suspects would still be okay. No word on other parts of the NSA rule. Still... baby steps.



Good news, but I wonder why Obama doesn't just order an end to bulk collection.  The article cites section 215 of the Patriot Act, which was implemented as is unilaterally, so one would think it could be stopped unilaterally, especially given its dubious legality and effectiveness.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on March 25, 2014, 09:05:47 AM
Let the games begin! (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/24/brazil-army-rio-slums-violence-world-cup)


Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on April 06, 2014, 11:35:15 AM
?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!? (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/ninemonthold-boy-charged-with-attempted-murder-in-pakistan-granted-bail-by-judge-9241959.html)


(One certainly hopes this is a case of the Indian press making up a story about the Pakistanis.)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Gurn Blanston on April 06, 2014, 12:32:49 PM
?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!? (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/ninemonthold-boy-charged-with-attempted-murder-in-pakistan-granted-bail-by-judge-9241959.html)


(One certainly hopes this is a case of the Indian press making up a story about the Pakistanis.)

I saw that story on CNN Friday AM. Although if it IS the Indian press, CNN may have picked it up off the wires. Apparently the baby isn't considered a flight risk, so released on his own recognizance.  ::)

8)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on April 07, 2014, 04:58:48 AM
Today's Science-y word of the day is bi-literate. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/serious-reading-takes-a-hit-from-online-scanning-and-skimming-researchers-say/2014/04/06/088028d2-b5d2-11e3-b899-20667de76985_story.html)


I rather enjoy this little bit:

Wolf, one of the world’s foremost experts on the study of reading, was startled last year to discover her brain was apparently adapting, too. After a day of scrolling through the Web and hundreds of e-mails, she sat down one evening to read Hermann Hesse’s “The Glass Bead Game.”

“I’m not kidding: I couldn’t do it,” she said . . .



There might be another reason or two she couldn't read Hesse.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Octave on April 07, 2014, 07:07:14 AM
Today's Science-y word of the day is bi-literate. (http://)
.[/i]

URL seems to be missing from yr link.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on April 07, 2014, 07:13:49 AM
URL seems to be missing from yr link.



Updated.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: snyprrr on April 07, 2014, 07:48:17 AM


, but I wonder why Obama doesn't just order an end to bulk collection. 

cause him n Bush work for the same team?... ultimately

yea, gee, why doesn't O have the "most transparent"... bla bla bla... come on Todd, what would occam's razor tell you?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Szykneij on April 13, 2014, 05:30:11 AM
Classical musicians suffer more hearing loss than heavy metal musicians.

http://www.cnet.com/news/shocker-the-most-deaf-musicians-arent-rockers/ (http://www.cnet.com/news/shocker-the-most-deaf-musicians-arent-rockers/)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Gurn Blanston on April 13, 2014, 06:15:36 AM
Classical musicians suffer more hearing loss than heavy metal musicians.

http://www.cnet.com/news/shocker-the-most-deaf-musicians-arent-rockers/ (http://www.cnet.com/news/shocker-the-most-deaf-musicians-arent-rockers/)

I know I should be surprised, but somehow I'm not. Many rockers are actually aware of this phenomenon now, and several big names preach about it all the time, starting with Ted Nugent back in the early '80's (when he was a 'big name'). I've never seen similar preaching for classical musicians, or even for listeners. I have personally posted about it in earphone threads here but generally been ignored. Since hearing protection is part of my profession, and I am significantly deaf from hearing loss caused by loud music, I feel like I have a dog in this fight...  :-\

8)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Szykneij on April 13, 2014, 11:55:29 AM
I know I should be surprised, but somehow I'm not. Many rockers are actually aware of this phenomenon now, and several big names preach about it all the time, starting with Ted Nugent back in the early '80's (when he was a 'big name'). I've never seen similar preaching for classical musicians, or even for listeners. I have personally posted about it in earphone threads here but generally been ignored. Since hearing protection is part of my profession, and I am significantly deaf from hearing loss caused by loud music, I feel like I have a dog in this fight...  :-\

8)

Those sitting directly in front of the brass section are particularly vulnerable.

Playing double-bass in orchestras, I was always in a relatively safe zone in the back and to the side, but when I played bass guitar in a Top 40 band, the guitarist to my right often got screamingly loud (I think he was probably suffering from hearing loss himself).

Back then, wearing earplugs on stage wasn't commonly done, but to save myself a headache, I used to stuff a piece of napkin in my right ear. The improvised earplug wasn't visible thanks to my stylish 80's rock band haircut, and I think it may have prevented some serious hearing damage.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on April 13, 2014, 12:24:57 PM
Those sitting directly in front of the brass section are particularly vulnerable.



A while back, the Oregon Symphony started using upward angled plexiglass shields in front of the brass players to help protect the musicians in front of them.  I'm pretty sure a few other orchestras have done the same, though I would have thought all professional US orchestras would have done so by now given the potential legal liability.  I'm not sure how many orchestras the world over use these devices, or mandate, or at least encourage, the use of hearing protection as well, but it would seem a prudent move on everyone's part.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on April 19, 2014, 06:57:28 AM
For American readers: Assuming words matter, the scariest sentence published by a respectable news outlet this week was “Protecting patients from financial ruin is fundamental to the precept of ‘do no harm’” (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/18/business/treatment-cost-could-influence-doctors-advice.html?_r=0).  (The sentence is itself a quote from a respectable journal.)

Thankfully, the same article has this rather more palatable sentence: “There should be forces in society who should be concerned about the budget, about how many M.R.I.s we do, but they shouldn’t be functioning simultaneously as doctors”.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on April 21, 2014, 09:55:34 AM
Now, I do not know if the fellow in question is an actual art expert (how much expertise do you need, for People magazine to elect you an expert?) . . . but the headline reads: An Art Expert Reviews George W. Bush's Paintings (http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20804587,00.html)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on April 21, 2014, 09:59:09 AM
how much expertise do you need, for People magazine to elect you an expert



He needed to be able to spell arte.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: North Star on April 29, 2014, 12:34:42 AM
[M]oral choices could depend on whether you are using a foreign language or your native tongue.
A new study from psychologists finds that people using a foreign language take a relatively utilitarian approach to moral dilemmas (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/04/140428120659.htm)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 02, 2014, 04:40:32 AM
A curious world, in which there is even such a thing as "revenge porn" . . .

Arizona's new law to battle 'revenge porn' is among the toughest in the US, making it a felony to post on the Web images of someone who is nude, without consent. (http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2014/0501/Revenge-porn-With-Arizona-10-states-now-outlaw-such-postings)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on May 04, 2014, 05:42:41 AM
The end is nigh! (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-30/china-set-to-overtake-u-s-as-biggest-economy-using-ppp-measure.html)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on May 18, 2014, 09:03:34 AM
John Belushi once said chicks ain't funny; he was wrong. (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/18/solange-jay-z-beyonce-fight-assault-domestic-violence-men-women)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Moonfish on May 18, 2014, 02:05:11 PM
Hmm, there was a write-up on this ethical problem in the paper this week (with a linguistic twist). Regardless, what would you do in this situation?

"A trolley is hurtling down a track towards five people. You are on a bridge under which it will pass, and you can stop it by dropping a heavy weight in front of it. As it happens, there is a very fat man next to you – your only way to stop the trolley is to push him over the bridge and onto the track, killing him to save five. What will you do?"
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 18, 2014, 02:08:02 PM
John Belushi once said chicks ain't funny; he was wrong. (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/18/solange-jay-z-beyonce-fight-assault-domestic-violence-men-women)
Kind of messed up logic in this article...
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: amw on May 18, 2014, 02:37:07 PM
John Belushi once said chicks ain't funny; he was wrong. (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/18/solange-jay-z-beyonce-fight-assault-domestic-violence-men-women)

I don't think "funny" is a term I'd use to describe someone who attempts to justify child abuse (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/nov/29/barbara-ellen-madeleine-martin-comment)...
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 18, 2014, 03:07:25 PM
I don't think "funny" is a term I'd use to describe someone who attempts to justify child abuse (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/nov/29/barbara-ellen-madeleine-martin-comment)...
She's defending women that sleep with underage boys and women that hit guys?... I really hope this is a tiny fraction of extremist feminist thought.  :-\
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on May 18, 2014, 03:37:22 PM
I don't think "funny" is a term I'd use to describe someone who attempts to justify child abuse (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/nov/29/barbara-ellen-madeleine-martin-comment)...



Looks like you need to invest in an irony detector.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 18, 2014, 03:39:05 PM


Looks like you need to invest in an irony detector.
I guess there's something amusing (albeit sad at the same time) about the writer's logic.  ;D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: amw on May 18, 2014, 05:17:28 PM
She's defending women that sleep with underage boys and women that hit guys?... I really hope this is a tiny fraction of extremist feminist thought.  :-\

"Feminist" is also not a word I would use to describe someone whose belief system is based on old-fashioned sexist notions (women = weak but enlightened, men = strong but brutish). Just because a woman says it does not make it feminist.

Looks like you need to invest in an irony detector.

I got a cheap one that can only tolerate a certain level of fucked-up-ness, anything above a Severely Fucked Up and it stops registering.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on May 18, 2014, 05:23:17 PM
I got a cheap one that can only tolerate a certain level of fucked-up-ness, anything above a Severely Fucked Up and it stops registering.



Well, then, now's a perfect time to upgrade.  A lot of things may slip by you otherwise, both on this forum and in the world at large.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on May 18, 2014, 05:57:03 PM
Hmm, there was a write-up on this ethical problem in the paper this week (with a linguistic twist). Regardless, what would you do in this situation?

"A trolley is hurtling down a track towards five people. You are on a bridge under which it will pass, and you can stop it by dropping a heavy weight in front of it. As it happens, there is a very fat man next to you – your only way to stop the trolley is to push him over the bridge and onto the track, killing him to save five. What will you do?"



Whatever action has the lowest probability of legal consequences for me, so nothing.  Same would apply to the pulling the lever question.

It is my understanding that the average age of the respondents in the survey cited was 21, meaning that a lot of college kids were probably surveyed.  College kids are also used a lot as test subjects at US universities.  I question the moral wisdom of college kids.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on May 18, 2014, 06:15:22 PM


Whatever action has the lowest probability of legal consequences for me, so nothing.  Same would apply to the pulling the lever question.

It is my understanding that the average age of the respondents in the survey cited was 21, meaning that a lot of college kids were probably surveyed.  College kids are also used a lot as test subjects at US universities.  I question the moral wisdom of college kids.

All this survey science is pretty much worthless.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on May 21, 2014, 05:57:01 AM
Well, now we know who will buy Russian gas if Europe becomes less dependent on their unfriendly neighbor to the east. (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/22/world/asia/china-russia-gas-deal.html?hp&_r=0) 

(It's interesting that the Gray Lady didn't mention how the gas will be paid for; I would have thought that might be the bigger story in the long run. (http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/5/20/russia-china-bankdeal.html))
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Brian on May 21, 2014, 06:09:57 AM
(It's interesting that the Gray Lady didn't mention how the gas will be paid for; I would have thought that might be the bigger story in the long run. (http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/5/20/russia-china-bankdeal.html))
Wow, that is an impressively silly picture they chose to run with the headline.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 24, 2014, 05:06:17 AM
Serial, chronic rapist released. Pot brownie maker faces life. Justice, the Amerikan way.
'Murrca!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 24, 2014, 06:48:59 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/santa-barbara-death-toll-now-stabbing-victims-home/story?id=23853918

9 People now dead from this drive-by shooting. The guy aimed to kill girl because he was frustrated that he was a 22-year old virgin and therefore wasn't accepted by the popular kids. He was confused why girls didn't like him because he though his looks and his BMW would be enough.

My thoughts are... really? 22? I can't even feel sorry about that at all...

Although this guy was obviously a narcissistic psychopath, the real problem that triggered him to do this is the culture. The thing about college/party culture (which is closely related to this "rape culture," whether it exists or not), is that, first, I'm glad I'm not a part of it, and second, it puts waaaaay too much pressure on men to have sex. This culture defines the value of a man's very existence and social acceptance to be based on how much sex he gets. I'm guessing that what might typically happen is that a man forces or tricks a girl into sex more often because of this pressure applied by other guys of this type of college culture.

A better for college campuses to hear, rather than the anti-rape messages, would be messages that convey that it is okay for men to not have sex and that doesn't make them any less of a man. However, that would laughed at by men and women alike because of our messed up, somewhat barbarian culture. Think of "The 40-year old virgin," a movie that makes people laugh with just the title alone. It probably wouldn't have quite the same effect in some east Asian countries, though, which probably have very little of that party culture at all. I believe it was 30% of Japanese aged 30 have never had a romantic relationship at all. And likewise, rape is only a fraction of a problem as it is here.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 24, 2014, 06:50:41 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/japan-creates-new-national-holiday-for--overworked--population-214042766.html (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/japan-creates-new-national-holiday-for--overworked--population-214042766.html)

Japan creates new national holiday for ‘overworked’ population. Yet another. And they probably won't even take it.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 24, 2014, 07:41:22 PM
Is this post serious?
I know you won't engage in discussion, but what do you disagree with?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 25, 2014, 04:45:24 AM
You know, quoting my whole post and then disagreeing with it makes you sound like you're sympathetic to the murderer and think that it's more women's fault that led him to that state of mind.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on May 25, 2014, 04:59:57 AM
You know, quoting my whole post and then disagreeing with it makes you sound like you're sympathetic to the murderer and think that it's more women's fault that led him to that state of mind.



No, it doesn't. 
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 25, 2014, 05:48:30 AM


No, it doesn't.
Yes, it does. That would be the opposite of what I said.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on May 25, 2014, 05:58:15 AM
Yes, it does. That would be the opposite of what I said.



You have a distorted, ignorant view of the world, and of women, as your long posting history indicates.  Your lengthy post on the shooting was drivel.  Hopefully, this clears things up for you.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 25, 2014, 06:03:52 AM
You have a distorted, ignorant view of the world, and of women, as your long posting history indicates.  Your lengthy post on the shooting was drivel.  Hopefully, this clears things up for you.
You obviously didn't even read my post. So you disagree with my assertion that the shooter should not feel pitied and that he was an entitled narcissist and that the social pressures that made him feel that way came from the culture of men rather than the culture of women? I feel bad for you, then.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on May 25, 2014, 06:04:50 AM
You obviously didn't even read my post. So you disagree with my assertion that the shooter should not feel pitied and that he was an entitled narcissist and that the social pressures that made him feel that way came from the culture of men rather than the culture of women? I feel bad for you, then.



I guess my post didn't clear things up for you.  I can't say that I'm surprised.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 25, 2014, 06:08:52 AM


I guess my post didn't clear things up for you.  I can't say that I'm surprised.
I guess you don't want to answer the question. So just don't say anything, then.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on May 26, 2014, 05:04:07 AM
To borrow from Tom Wolfe: [T]he dark night of fascism is always descending in the United States and yet lands only in Europe.  (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27559714)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on May 26, 2014, 05:38:01 AM
My favorite part of that article are all the non-quote quotes.


Truth to tell, mine was the link to BBC Culture where the ongoing allure of the miniskirt is investigated with great journalistic integrity.

But back to the elections: perhaps there is a Danish forum member who can explain why I'm so creeped out by Morten Messerschmidt.

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/75099000/jpg/_75099223_75099220.jpg)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Moonfish on May 26, 2014, 10:35:10 AM
Might as well have been...

Why is he so happy? And more to the point why is that woman so happy?!

Hypothesis: They were selected to star in the next Doctor Who episode?   :laugh:
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on May 27, 2014, 08:29:32 AM
Whoops-a-daisy. (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/26/identification-cia-station-chief-afghanistan-reporter)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: knight66 on May 27, 2014, 09:43:43 AM
Whoops Apocolipse perhaps for the guy.

Mike
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Brian on May 27, 2014, 10:21:48 AM
Speaking of Apocalypse, I have learned from a billboard in my great state that a church in Texas has pinpointed August 2, 2027 as the date of the Apocalypse (http://www.august2nd2027.com/), specifically at noon Jerusalem time, when Jesus will cause a solar eclipse and a global earthquake to win the Battle of Armageddon.

I have added the date to my Google Calendar with a note reminding myself to engage in wanton hedonism, and suggest you do the same!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 27, 2014, 10:24:37 AM
Speaking of Apocalypse, I have learned from a billboard in my great state that a church in Texas has pinpointed August 2, 2027 as the date of the Apocalypse (http://www.august2nd2027.com/), specifically at noon Jerusalem time, when Jesus will cause a solar eclipse and a global earthquake to win the Battle of Armageddon.

I have added the date to my Google Calendar with a note reminding myself to engage in wanton hedonism, and suggest you do the same!

If you expect me to wait for 2027 to engage in wanton hedonism, you've another think coming!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 28, 2014, 05:17:21 AM
Hermione Granger is graduated from Brown Univ. (http://www.csmonitor.com/The-Culture/Latest-News-Wires/2014/0526/Emma-Watson-graduates-Harry-Potter-star-picks-up-Ivy-League-diploma)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Moonfish on May 28, 2014, 07:06:54 AM
Hermione Granger is graduated from Brown Univ. (http://www.csmonitor.com/The-Culture/Latest-News-Wires/2014/0526/Emma-Watson-graduates-Harry-Potter-star-picks-up-Ivy-League-diploma)

Wait! I thought she went to Hogwart's?  ???
But they are probably not accredited....
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 28, 2014, 08:24:24 AM
Kiss band member Paul Stanley discusses his new autobiography (http://www.csmonitor.com/Books/chapter-and-verse/2014/0527/Kiss-band-member-Paul-Stanley-discusses-his-new-autobiography-video)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on June 02, 2014, 07:19:49 AM
I suppose this was inevitable. (http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/jun/02/edward-snowden-nsa-film-oliver-stone)  I just hope Jesse Eisenberg isn't tapped to be the lead.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: North Star on June 05, 2014, 02:18:12 AM
My city is such a beautiful place (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/04/finland-babies-cellar)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 05, 2014, 03:21:31 AM
Interesting.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/30/23-year-old-virgin-elliot-rodger-sex
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Wanderer on June 05, 2014, 09:35:41 AM
Google Finally Launches Street View in Greece (http://mashable.com/2014/06/05/greece-google-street-view/)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on June 09, 2014, 05:46:22 AM
This may actually explain some of snyprrr's posts. (http://www.cnet.com/news/computer-fools-humans-passes-turing-test/)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 09, 2014, 06:05:04 AM
This may actually explain some of snyprrr's posts. (http://www.cnet.com/news/computer-fools-humans-passes-turing-test/)

Quote
For the first time, a team in Russia has managed to dupe more than 30 percent of human interrogators into believing it's human.

But Chris Matyszczyk (or, the editor) has not managed to dupe me into thinking he understands how to use pronouns.  Good for that Russian team, convincing 30% of their human interrogators that their team are human!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on June 09, 2014, 06:08:15 AM
But Chris Matyszczyk (or, the editor) has not managed to dupe me into thinking he understands how to use pronouns.



Grammar are hard.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 09, 2014, 06:10:22 AM
Grammar are hard.

Sure do!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 09, 2014, 07:31:14 AM

"Americans are lazy" (http://20somethingfinance.com/american-hours-worked-productivity-vacation/)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on June 10, 2014, 10:44:59 AM
The buck stops somewhere. (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/06/hagel-made-final-call-on-bergdahl-swap-congress-told/)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 15, 2014, 04:29:04 PM
My state is #1!
Good job!  Teach those other states how to do things properly now! Comfort and peace of mind is an evil coming from Satan!  >:D


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/09/most-stressed-out-state_n_5474137.html
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 17, 2014, 05:08:25 PM
I've seen a swastika in probably nearly a third of the public restrooms I've been in...
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 18, 2014, 03:27:02 AM
Well you do live in Florida if I'm not mistaken so I'm not surprised. This is the first one I've seen in years.
Yeah, that might be why. Haven't lived in other states, so I couldn't compare...
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on June 20, 2014, 06:08:38 PM
Stockman requests NSA metadata on Lerner:
http://stockman.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/stockman-asks-nsa-for-lois-lerner-metadata-after-irs-claims-glitch



Well, come on, now, if you've got the technology, why not use it?  What could go wrong?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on June 22, 2014, 04:11:31 PM
I see. (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-bill-and-i-are-not-like-the-truly-well-off/)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Brian on June 22, 2014, 05:56:40 PM
She needs to desperately hire a new campaign manager.
(http://www.thehollywoodnews.com/wp-content/uploads/veep-cast-pic_652x404.jpg)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on June 25, 2014, 07:50:38 AM
Obama hates the oil industry. (http://online.wsj.com/articles/u-s-ruling-would-allow-first-shipments-of-unrefined-oil-overseas-1403644494)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: The Six on June 27, 2014, 03:49:29 PM
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Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 02, 2014, 09:30:33 AM
Looks like Nick may have raised the bar a notch. (http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/nicolas-sarkozy-ex-french-president-faces-charges-in-corruption-probe-1.2693819)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Brian on July 02, 2014, 09:38:44 AM
Looks like Nick may have raised the bar a notch. (http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/nicolas-sarkozy-ex-french-president-faces-charges-in-corruption-probe-1.2693819)
Holy shit.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 02, 2014, 10:50:03 AM
Looks like Nick may have raised the bar a notch. (http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/nicolas-sarkozy-ex-french-president-faces-charges-in-corruption-probe-1.2693819)
I'm not sure that really raises the bar, since we know Chirac took bucks from Saddam. More like maintaining a tradition.  :)
I forget who Mitterand took bribes from, but I recall there was someone.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 02, 2014, 11:37:26 AM
I'm not sure that really raises the bar, since we know Chirac took bucks from Saddam.



I was thinking in terms of scale and audacity.  $67 million to his "campaign" fund, and then Sarkozy became one of the leading voices for ousting Gadhafi.  One would think that kind of money might buy less vigorous hand biting.  Ah well, c'est la vie.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 02, 2014, 04:11:23 PM


I was thinking in terms of scale and audacity.  $67 million to his "campaign" fund, and then Sarkozy became one of the leading voices for ousting Gadhafi.  One would think that kind of money might buy less vigorous hand biting.  Ah well, c'est la vie.
An honest politician is one who, when he is bought, will stay bought.
--Simon Cameron
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 03, 2014, 06:18:40 PM
For religious freedom:

http://www.moonmontchronicle.com/supreme-court-rules-jcpenney-allowed-to-sacrifice-employees-to-appease-cthulhu.html
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 08, 2014, 05:46:09 AM
For Baklavaboy

http://theweek.com/article/index/264032/china-thinks-it-can-defeat-america-in-battle (http://theweek.com/article/index/264032/china-thinks-it-can-defeat-america-in-battle)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 08, 2014, 10:06:11 AM
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2014/07/lebron-to-announce-decision-at-united-nations.html
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 10, 2014, 05:59:53 AM
Nipped it in the bud. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/in-unusual-plea-deal-virginia-man-agrees-to-a-vasectomy/2014/06/29/7835371c-fe3e-11e3-932c-0a55b81f48ce_story.html)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Szykneij on July 15, 2014, 02:41:13 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/10968316/Germanys-plan-to-take-on-NSA-Block-eavesdroppers-with-classical-music-and-use-typewriters.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/10968316/Germanys-plan-to-take-on-NSA-Block-eavesdroppers-with-classical-music-and-use-typewriters.html)

Classical music foils spies!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 16, 2014, 06:22:28 PM
I guess this sorta makes sense. (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-manuel-noriega-sues-over-depiction-in-call-of-duty-video-game/)  Kinda.  Maybe.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: kishnevi on July 19, 2014, 03:47:57 AM
Note to Philo and anyone else
The goal of Hamas, stated in their charter and repeated by their members at every chance, is to kill as many Jews as possible.  Anyone who defends them, supports them,  or in any way excuses them, and anyone who treats them as anything other than a group of murderous thugs, and anyone who ignores the fact that they are the ones with genocidal aims and they are the ones who put civilians on harm's  way, is therefore supporting the idea that killing Jews is a good thing.  Therefore if ypu repost any more of their propaganda here,  I will assume that you, Philo, believe my death is a good thing because I am a Jew.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 19, 2014, 05:12:47 AM
Said to be a Wisconsin teacher picketing.

(http://www.purduereview.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Stupid_teacher.gif)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 19, 2014, 05:31:43 AM
Note to Philo and anyone else
The goal of Hamas, stated in their charter and repeated by their members at every chance, is to kill as many Jews as possible.  Anyone who defends them, supports them,  or in any way excuses them, and anyone who treats them as anything other than a group of murderous thugs, and anyone who ignores the fact that they are the ones with genocidal aims and they are the ones who put civilians on harm's  way, is therefore supporting the idea that killing Jews is a good thing.  Therefore if ypu repost any more of their propaganda here,  I will assume that you, Philo, believe my death is a good thing because I am a Jew.
Well I approve the sentiment, but don't know about the facts here. The video seems to show kids being taught to hate and attack. That seems to me just what hamas does and advocates. But mightn't Philo just being showing an example of this to discomfit hamas apologists? I cannot tell from what I see here.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: kishnevi on July 19, 2014, 08:58:25 AM
I was viewing it in light of his post yesterday, which was explicitly propaganda produced by Hamas.  I admit my knowledge of this tape's contents is befuddled by Google's apparently limited ability to translate Arabic.
But if Philo has a valid reason let him come and explain homself.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 19, 2014, 01:01:42 PM
Note to Philo and anyone else
The goal of Hamas, stated in their charter and repeated by their members at every chance, is to kill as many Jews as possible.  Anyone who defends them, supports them,  or in any way excuses them, and anyone who treats them as anything other than a group of murderous thugs, and anyone who ignores the fact that they are the ones with genocidal aims and they are the ones who put civilians on harm's  way, is therefore supporting the idea that killing Jews is a good thing.  Therefore if ypu repost any more of their propaganda here,  I will assume that you, Philo, believe my death is a good thing because I am a Jew.
True. If Israel had no defense, they would all be dead. I doubt you could say the same for Hamas.

I wish the Middle East, Africa, and Russia could magically warp to another planet so we wouldn't have to worry about them. Us civilized countries could then live in peace, at least until we get a US president that wants to start a war with some aliens.  :P
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: kishnevi on July 19, 2014, 01:03:17 PM
True. If Israel had no defense, they would all be dead. I doubt you could say the same for Hamas.

I wish the Middle East, Africa, and Russia could magically warp to another planet so we wouldn't have to worry about them. Us civilized countries could then live in peace, at least until we get a US president that wants to start a war with some aliens.  :P
Don't forget China.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 19, 2014, 01:18:27 PM
Don't forget China.
But then who would make our iPods and other electronics if we can't have Chinese slave kids?  ???

Maybe we could split the world in two-
Good world: Western Europe, Scandanavia, US, Canada, Japan, South Korea, Australia, Taiwan?
Bad world: Africa, Middle East, Asia/Russia, South America

We can completely ignore each other until the Bad World either blows each other up or proven they've changed their ways. Of course, this is a pipe dream since there are so many innocent people suffering in these countries.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 19, 2014, 06:09:50 PM
But then who would make our iPods and other electronics if we can't have Chinese slave kids?  ???

Maybe we could split the world in two-
Good world: Western Europe, Scandanavia, US, Canada, Japan, South Korea, Australia, Taiwan?
Bad world: Africa, Middle East, Asia/Russia, South America

We can completely ignore each other until the Bad World either blows each other up or proven they've changed their ways. Of course, this is a pipe dream since there are so many innocent people suffering in these countries.
Hold on a second there, with South Korea.

 >:D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 19, 2014, 06:20:06 PM
Hold on a second there, with South Korea.

 >:D
Whatcha got against the South Koreans?  :'(

oh, forgot to add North Korea to the Bad World. If I were North Korean, I'd be praying to Kim Jong Un or whoever that another country bombs me to oblivion, as long as it close enough to incinerate me instantly.  >:D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 19, 2014, 06:21:58 PM
I noted the nature of leftist idiots and their threat to due process.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/mobile/news/home-news/police-to-doorstep-sex-crime-suspects.24799887 (http://www.heraldscotland.com/mobile/news/home-news/police-to-doorstep-sex-crime-suspects.24799887)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 19, 2014, 06:49:53 PM
I noted the nature of leftist idiots and their threat to due process.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/mobile/news/home-news/police-to-doorstep-sex-crime-suspects.24799887 (http://www.heraldscotland.com/mobile/news/home-news/police-to-doorstep-sex-crime-suspects.24799887)
Not sure how that is a political issue, but it's definitely something that would be abused. I heard one of my closest friends once mentioning that when he tried breaking up with a girl (she was being too clingy or something), she got mad and told everyone he tried to rape her. No one believed her; considering something like that would be ridiculously out of character for him, it would be hard to believe. So it would be sad if someone who wanted revenge could tell the police and get him in trouble anyways.

I don't think Europe is going to help its declining populations with such rules...
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 19, 2014, 07:05:55 PM
Not sure how that is a political issue, but it's definitely something that would be abused. I heard one of my closest friends once mentioning that when he tried breaking up with a girl (she was being too clingy or something), she got mad and told everyone he tried to rape her. No one believed her; considering something like that would be ridiculously out of character for him, it would be hard to believe. So it would be sad if someone who wanted revenge could tell the police and get him in trouble anyways.

I don't think Europe is going to help its declining populations with such rules...
Many universities are trying to change standards of proof. I hope he is not at one.
Just before I left school there was a huge witch hunt about some engineering students. The woman eventually admitted she lied. The president of the student union said she should not have recanted, because it just feeds the "myth" that some accusations are false.
 :blank:
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 19, 2014, 07:24:58 PM
Many universities are trying to change standards of proof. I hope he is not at one.
Just before I left school there was a huge witch hunt about some engineering students. The woman eventually admitted she lied. The president of the student union said she should not have recanted, because it just feeds the "myth" that some accusations are false.
 :blank:
Lol! Talk about evil... My friend isn't in university and I have no classes on campus, so guess I'm safe. Also, having a passive and polite nature may help. No surprise people sided with my friend, and I doubt anyone would believe I tried to rape someone.  :P
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 20, 2014, 05:16:30 AM
Lol! Talk about evil... My friend isn't in university and I have no classes on campus, so guess I'm safe. Also, having a passive and polite nature may help. No surprise people sided with my friend, and I doubt anyone would believe I tried to rape someone.  :P
Google Kira Cochrane, Andrea Dworkin, Marilyn French. They think you already did.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 20, 2014, 06:28:11 AM
Google Kira Cochrane, Andrea Dworkin, Marilyn French. They think you already did.
I'll just take your word for it. No one in the world is exempt by being passionately hated by someone they've never even heard of.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 20, 2014, 09:37:22 AM
They're on to you snyprrr. (http://www.bizjournals.com/boston/blog/techflash/2014/06/utilities-deploy-shooter-detection-systems-made-by.html)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 20, 2014, 01:51:40 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/07/17/when-rhode-island-accidentally-legalized-prostitution-rape-and-stis-decreased-sharply/?Post+generic=%3Ftid%3Dsm_twitter_washingtonpost (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/07/17/when-rhode-island-accidentally-legalized-prostitution-rape-and-stis-decreased-sharply/?Post+generic=%3Ftid%3Dsm_twitter_washingtonpost)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 20, 2014, 04:45:02 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/07/17/when-rhode-island-accidentally-legalized-prostitution-rape-and-stis-decreased-sharply/?Post+generic=%3Ftid%3Dsm_twitter_washingtonpost (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/07/17/when-rhode-island-accidentally-legalized-prostitution-rape-and-stis-decreased-sharply/?Post+generic=%3Ftid%3Dsm_twitter_washingtonpost)
No surprise. Yet a lot of people might be surprised for some reason.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 20, 2014, 05:12:40 PM
No surprise. Yet a lot of people might be surprised for some reason.
Last year I stopped hitting my skull with a hammer and my headaches went away. Can't be related though, headaches are caused by witches.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 20, 2014, 06:44:15 PM
Internet Explorer explained.

http://theweek.com/speedreads/index/264921/speedreads-microsoft-lays-off-12500-employees-via-the-worst-email-ever (http://theweek.com/speedreads/index/264921/speedreads-microsoft-lays-off-12500-employees-via-the-worst-email-ever)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 21, 2014, 08:46:37 AM
No surprise. Yet a lot of people might be surprised for some reason.

Quote from: Melissa Farley
In rape cultures, the sexual terrorism of rape and prostitution are downplayed, underestimated, or denied. A prostituted woman explained, “What rape is to others, is normal to us.” Prostitution is a cornerstone of rape culture.  Rape cultures normalize the objectification and commodification of women as sex and blame victims for their own victimization. The global finding that women aged 15-44 are more likely to be injured or killed by male violence than from cancer, malaria, traffic accidents and war combined – only makes sense when understood as a result of cultural acceptance of sexual violence. Prostitution is a commodified form of violence against women, a last-ditch survival option rather than a job choice. The lies that prostitution is a victimless crime, that she chose it, or even that prostitution isn’t really happening at all –enable people to avoid the discomfort of knowing about the brutal realities of prostitution. And sex businesses rely on social, political and legal denial of denying the harms of prostitution.

From another point of view, the incidence of rape may well remain the same, only the rape is a legalized transaction rather than a criminal offense.  The woman still endures the degradation and psychological harm, but -- it's not a crime!  So the john is not a criminal, and his activity is business-as-usual rather than the occasion of a police report.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 21, 2014, 08:57:26 AM
Quote from: Melissa Farley
In rape cultures, the sexual terrorism of rape and prostitution are downplayed, underestimated, or denied...


I'm no big fan of prostitution, and I have doubts about the wisdom of legalizing it, but Ms Farley's use of the word "terrorism" is ridiculous and undermines what she writes.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 21, 2014, 09:07:13 AM
A good point.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 21, 2014, 09:14:39 AM
From another point of view, the incidence of rape may well remain the same, only the rape is a legalized transaction rather than a criminal offense.  The woman still endures the degradation and psychological harm, but -- it's not a crime!  So the john is not a criminal, and his activity is business-as-usual rather than the occasion of a police report.
Well, if the prostitute is being forced to prostitute, then that would definitely be a rape. For someone who chooses to make money off of sex, then I don't see how you can say there is a rape involved if they are willing. Of course, it may involve degradation and psychological harm, but so do most jobs out there (not to mention many jobs involve greater risk of physical harm). The only argument I can understand against prostitution would be from a religious perspective, but then again, there's supposed to be a separation between the church and the state...
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 21, 2014, 09:16:27 AM
From another point of view, the incidence of rape may well remain the same, only the rape is a legalized transaction rather than a criminal offense.  The woman still endures the degradation and psychological harm, but -- it's not a crime!  So the john is not a criminal, and his activity is business-as-usual rather than the occasion of a police report.
What word is missing from that analysis? Could it be 'consent'?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 21, 2014, 09:21:37 AM
For someone who chooses to make money off of sex, then I don't see how you can say there is a rape involved if they are willing.



Let's say a woman who is a prostitute by choice encounters a violent client who forces her to do something she doesn't want to do - would that qualify as rape?  It's not hard to imagine something that happens frequently.



Of course, it may involve degradation and psychological harm, but so do most jobs out there (not to mention many jobs involve greater risk of physical harm).


This is one of the dumbest things you've ever written.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 21, 2014, 09:24:37 AM
What word is missing from that analysis? Could it be 'consent'?

Your optimism that the 'consent' is unforced is pretty to see ;)

Well, if the prostitute is being forced to prostitute, then that would definitely be a rape. For someone who chooses to make money off of sex, then I don't see how you can say there is a rape involved if they are willing.

Quote from: Melissa Farley
Only a tiny percentage of all women in prostitution are there because they freely choose it.  For most, prostitution is not a real choice because physical safety, equal power with buyers, and real alternatives don’t exist.  These are the conditions that would permit genuine consent. Most of the 1% who choose prostitution are privileged because of their ethnicity and class and they have escape options.  Poor women and women of color don’t have these options.
 
“We want real jobs, not blowjobs,” said a First Nations survivor of prostitution in 2009. Prostitution exploits women’s lack of survival options. Research conducted in nine countries found that 89% of all those in prostitution said that they were in prostitution because they had no alternatives for economic survival and that they saw no means of escape. In Indonesia another study found that 96% of those interviewed wanted to escape prostitution. Sex discrimination, poverty, racism and abandonment drive girls into prostitution. Women in prostitution were sexually abused as kids at much higher rates than other women.  So they are defined as ‘whores’ by rapists when they are little and they then end up in prostitution  – getting paid for the abuse they have grown up with and believing that’s all they are good for.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 21, 2014, 09:26:46 AM
So, yes, the word "consent" was perniciously absent from the analysis, as it can only be applied in a highly qualified sense to most prostitution.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 21, 2014, 09:28:00 AM
Let's say a woman who is a prostitute by choice encounters a violent client who forces her to do something she doesn't want to do - would that qualify as rape?  It's not hard to imagine something that happens frequently.
Sure, maybe, depends on what it is. Of course illegal activities could happen if the prostitute's rules aren't respected (you are doing more than what you are paying for, which would be considered stealing as well).


This is one of the dumbest things you've ever written.
Join the Marines and go to the front lines in a war and tell me if it was psychologically difficult and potentially dangerous.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 21, 2014, 09:30:57 AM
Sure, maybe, depends on what it is. Of course illegal activities could happen if the prostitute's rules aren't respected (you are doing more than what you are paying for, which would be considered stealing as well).


Maybe?  This exposes your lack of understanding.


Join the Marines and go to the front lines in a war and tell me if it was psychologically difficult and potentially dangerous.


Your last post said most jobs out there.  Now you are being intellectually dishonest as well as daft.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: jochanaan on July 21, 2014, 09:39:30 AM
Let's assume for a moment that there are women who choose, without coercion, to make a living as a prostitute.  They may still not consent to certain kinds of sexual activity, and I cannot imagine any of them consenting to unlimited violence (as opposed to the kind of limited violence that BDSM practitioners engage in).  To force such unwanted "sex" onto a prostitute is indeed rape by any reasonable definition, whether she chose to do prostitution or not.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Florestan on July 21, 2014, 09:40:34 AM
Any talk about prostitution being immoral is moot in the country where porn is a legal, multi-billion-dollar business.  ;D ;D ;D

Any rationalization post this factum is a disgusting hypocrisy.

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 21, 2014, 09:41:14 AM
Let's assume for a moment that there are women who choose, without coercion, to make a living as a prostitute.

Per above, a valid assumption for a minuscule percentage of "sex workers."
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: jochanaan on July 21, 2014, 09:43:09 AM
Per above, a valid assumption for a minuscule percentage of "sex workers."
And which researchers have found that "miniscule percentage"? ???
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 21, 2014, 09:44:03 AM
Maybe?  This exposes your lack of understanding.
Okay, then, since every word counts...

Sure, maybe, depends on what it is. Of course illegal activities could happen if the prostitute's rules aren't respected (you are doing more than what you are paying for, which would be considered stealing as well).



Your last post said most jobs out there.  Now you are being intellectually dishonest as well as daft.
Do I really need to make a list of all of the dangerous and often psychologically damaging jobs out there?
Firefighter, coal miner, police officer, construction workers on tall buildings, the rest of the military, the list goes on and on but I'd rather not sit here all day trying to come up with a list.

And besides that, to most people working just sucks in general and they have to out of economic necessity. The argument that prostitution takes advantage of women who are poor makes no sense since they could get a regular job like all of the other men in the world out there. Prostitution just opens up another market and job opportunities for women; unless someone is forcing them, it's their choice.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 21, 2014, 09:46:20 AM
Any talk about prostitution being immoral is moot in the country where porn is a legal, multi-billion-dollar business.  ;D ;D ;D

Any rationalization post this factum is a disgusting hypocrisy.
I always keep in mind, when it comes to this subject, a clip from either Family Guy or South Park where a transaction with a prostitute finishes taking place and cops barge in, trying to arrest them. Then the guy says, "Oh, actually, we were filming this to make money off of it. It's actually porn." The police officers leave peacefully.  ;D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 21, 2014, 09:47:12 AM
And which researchers have found that "miniscule percentage"? ???

Indeed!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 21, 2014, 09:49:13 AM
Depends on how you define "rape": if you define it by consent, then it isn't; if you define it by want, then prostitution almost always is.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Florestan on July 21, 2014, 09:49:52 AM
I always keep in mind, when it comes to this subject, a clip from either Family Guy or South Park where a transaction with a prostitute finishes taking place and cops barge in, trying to arrest them. Then the guy says, "Oh, actually, we were filming this to make money off of it. It's actually porn." The police officers leave peacefully.  ;D

Well, exactly!  ;D

Unless, and until, the USA as a whole outlaw porn altogether, any talk about prostitution being illegal and immoral will always seems to me as the top of hypocrisy.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 21, 2014, 09:52:41 AM
Depends on how you define "rape": if you define it by consent, then it isn't; if you define it by want, then prostitution almost always is.

I see you are concerned to define "rape," but blandly assume that all "consent" is created equal.

Well, exactly!  ;D

Unless, and until, the USA as a whole outlaw porn altogether, any talk about prostitution being illegal and immoral will always seems to me as the top of hypocrisy.  ;D ;D ;D

Well, I am going to disagree that USA not having outlawed porn outright renders me a hypocrite for protesting that prostitution is immoral, and upholding its illegality.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 21, 2014, 10:07:58 AM
I see you are concerned to define "rape," but blandly assume that all "consent" is created equal.
That was exactly my point, though. You can consent without wanting (like almost every person that has a job). Almost no one works because they want to.


Well, I am going to disagree that USA not having outlawed porn outright renders me a hypocrite for protesting that prostitution is immoral, and upholding its illegality.
Then you'd have to agree that porn should be illegal, too.  ;)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Florestan on July 21, 2014, 10:08:15 AM
IWell, I am going to disagree that USA not having outlawed porn outright renders me a hypocrite for protesting that prostitution is immoral, and upholding its illegality.

You are not a hypocrite, of course. I was painting my statement in much too wide a brush. I shall reformulate it.

You, Karl Henning, are not at all a hypocrite in denouncing the immorality of prostitution, but:

Fact # 1. There are USA states (not all of them) in which prostitution is legal.

and

Fact # 2. There are USA states (all of them) in which porn is legal (am I wrong?).

And that brings us to the main issue: morals and legals are two different matters altogether. Not everything moral is legal, and not everything legal is moral. For a Christian, morality trumps legality and it is in this respect that I side with you: prostitution is immoral even when legal. Porn too,
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 21, 2014, 10:14:44 AM
That was exactly my point, though. You can consent without wanting (like almost every person that has a job). Almost no one works because they want to.

If you do not see the fallacy of your equation there, I doubt I can illuminate it for you.

The statement "Almost no one works because they want to" is also completely false;  I see people every day who want to work.

Take myself:  I want to compose, and it must be considered a type of work.  Of course, the job to which I report everty day is a different sort of job;  but it is also work I want to do.  Now, let me give you some credit for imagination:  what do you suppose are three possible reasons why I want to work, even at this job which is not composition?

Quote from: Greg
Then you'd have to agree that porn should be illegal, too.  ;)

Aye, just so.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 21, 2014, 10:15:10 AM
For a Christian, morality trumps legality and it is in this respect that I side with you: prostitution is immoral even when legal. Porn too,

Exactly so, brother.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 21, 2014, 10:21:30 AM
Do I really need to make a list of all of the dangerous and often psychologically damaging jobs out there? Firefighter, coal miner, police officer, construction workers on tall buildings, the rest of the military, the list goes on and on but I'd rather not sit here all day trying to come up with a list.


You see, you are intellectually dishonest, or perhaps incapable of understanding what the word "most" means. 



And besides that, to most people working just sucks in general and they have to out of economic necessity.


You are confusing your outlook with how other people view work.  What evidence do you have that most people (eg, >50% of all people, or >50% of all working people, take your pick) think work "just sucks in general"? 

I do acknowledge that it is true that a lot of people work out of economic necessity.  That's called life.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Florestan on July 21, 2014, 10:22:11 AM
Exactly so, brother.

Aye!

But then again: Let him who is without sin, cast the first stone. Porn is the prime example of supply creating the demand.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Florestan on July 21, 2014, 10:24:37 AM
I do acknowledge that it is true that a lot of people work out of economic necessity.  That's called life.

I wonder, how many porn actresses actually work out of pleasure?  :)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 21, 2014, 10:26:17 AM
Unless, and until, the USA as a whole outlaw porn altogether, any talk about prostitution being illegal and immoral will always seems to me as the top of hypocrisy.



This line of reasoning ignores two things.  First, it does not define pornography, unless you are going for the "I know it when I see it" standard.  Second, assuming an agreed upon definition is reached, what about all of the pornography that is created and shared by people without any financial reward?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 21, 2014, 10:26:39 AM
If you do not see the fallacy of your equation there, I doubt I can illuminate it for you.

The statement "Almost no one works because they want to" is also completely false;  I see people every day who want to work.

Take myself:  I want to compose, and it must be considered a type of work.  Of course, the job to which I report everty day is a different sort of job;  but it is also work I want to do.  Now, let me give you some credit for imagination:  what do you suppose are three possible reasons why I want to work, even at this job which is not composition?

Aye, just so.
Composing isn't work. It's fun.
You may have two other reasons besides money to work at your job, but would you work for free when you could be spending more time composing? You need to eat, after all.
And you may see people that love to work, but most people work because they have to. Probably 90% of the people I work with work because they have to- I know a few exceptions here and there that don't really need to, but it's a small minority.


I'm also interested in this idea being considered here that something such as verbal consent could still be considered rape. So if a woman says "yes" to sex (paid or unpaid), and doesn't really want to, is that rape? Just think of the potential problems of that. So if a woman wants to get back at you and claim you raped her because she didn't want sex with you (even though she said "yes"), and you get thrown in jail for rape, it's basically because you can't read someone's mind? That sounds like a really thorny issue there.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 21, 2014, 10:31:43 AM
Composing isn't work. It's fun.

It is both.  The fact that I enjoy the activity does not negate that it is work, the application of thought, talent and time to a tangible result.  (If music be tangible.)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 21, 2014, 10:34:22 AM
You see, you are intellectually dishonest, or perhaps incapable of understanding what the word "most" means. 
Okay, since you like to nitpick so much, then "many." A lot of people work those jobs. Not to mention retail or restaurant work, which makes up a large percentage of jobs. Do you really think many people like making sandwiches, pulling in shopping carts or running a register all day for what is basically a non-living?



You are confusing your outlook with how other people view work.  What evidence do you have that most people (eg, >50% of all people, or >50% of all working people, take your pick) think work "just sucks in general"? 
Do you live in some sort of world full of happy workers?  ??? I wouldn't mind going there...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/susanadams/2013/10/10/unhappy-employees-outnumber-happy-ones-by-two-to-one-worldwide/
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Florestan on July 21, 2014, 10:34:33 AM


This line of reasoning ignores two things.  First, it does not define pornography, unless you are going for the "I know it when I see it" standard.

I am not a hypocrite, nor do I play around with words. Porn for me is when two or more people fuck, suck, lick and whatever, on purpose and knowingly, in front of a camera.  ;D ;D ;D 

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Second, assuming an agreed upon definition is reached, what about all of the pornography that is created and shared by people without without any financial reward?

That is left to anybody's morality and conscience. If you fuck your wife and her highschool girlfriend and film and post it on the internet, that's your business.  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Florestan on July 21, 2014, 10:42:47 AM
Do you really think many people like making sandwiches, pulling in shopping carts or running a register all day for what is basically a non-living?

I'm with you on that one,Most people hate their jobs. Todd too, but he will never admit it.   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 21, 2014, 10:47:09 AM
I'm with you on that one,Most people hate their jobs. Todd too, but he will never admit it.   ;D ;D ;D
My dad always told me that most people don't like their jobs and he really hopes that I'd be one of the few that gets one I like. Of course, it has been years of work and stress to get a chance.

Just ~17+ months more when I graduate, and I'll very likely in that lucky minority.  :)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 21, 2014, 10:49:34 AM
Okay, since you like to nitpick so much, then "many."


Many means something quite different from most.  It changes the nature of your statement.  Words are important.



Not to mention retail or restaurant work, which makes up a large percentage of jobs. Do you really think many people like making sandwiches, pulling in shopping carts or running a register all day for what is basically a non-living?


Well, see, these jobs are not dangerous, generally speaking.  And they are not degrading in the way prostitution is.  Not even close.  You attempted, and continue to attempt, to establish a false equivalency.



Do you live in some sort of world full of happy workers?

Let's take a quick look at some of that article you offer up as proof.

Overall, Gallup found that only 13% of workers feel engaged by their jobs. That means they feel a sense of passion for their work, a deep connection to their employe and they spend their days driving innovation and moving their company forward.

The vast majority, some 63%, are “not engaged,” meaning they are unhappy but not drastically so. In short, they’re checked out. They sleepwalk through their days, putting little energy into their work.

A full 24% are what Gallup calls “actively disengaged,” meaning they pretty much hate their jobs. They act out and undermine what their coworkers accomplish.



And further:


It turns out the U.S. has some of the best numbers in the world, with 30% happy in their work, 52% feeling blah and 18% who hate their jobs. Those numbers are not what we would want but they are better than most places.


So I see 24% who hate their jobs worldwide, and 18% in the US.  Not well over half.  But even then, the nature of some of the questions listed are written in such a way that the results are sure to skew negative.  For instance:

5. My supervisor, or someone at work, seems to care about me as a person.
10. I have a best friend at work.



A caring boss?  (Meaning what, exactly?) A best friend at work?  What rubbish.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Florestan on July 21, 2014, 10:50:30 AM
My dad always told me that most people don't like their jobs and he really hopes that I'd be one of the few that gets one I like. Of course, it has been years of work and stress to get a chance.

Just ~17+ months more when I graduate, and I'll very likely in that lucky minority.  :)

Have you read Emil Cioran? (A Romanian, BTW).
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 21, 2014, 10:53:49 AM
Todd too, but he will never admit it.



I don't hate it, nor do I love it.  I've had better jobs, and worse jobs.  It's far better than blah, though.  Oh, yes, I also don't live in Fantasyland, where my parents feed and house me, and make everyone be nice to me to protect my feelings, so I recognize that some things at work will be unpleasant.  It is called Work, not Happy Fun Time.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 21, 2014, 10:54:17 AM
A caring boss?  (Meaning what, exactly?) A best friend at work?  What rubbish.

Indeed.  One can like one's work (as I do), without losing sight of something my boss once said:  Work is not the place to find personal fulfillment.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Florestan on July 21, 2014, 10:56:41 AM

Many means something quite different from most.  It changes the nature of your statement.  Words are important.




Well, see, these jobs are not dangerous, generally speaking.  And they are not degrading in the way prostitution is.  Not even close.  You attempted, and continue to attempt, to establish a false equivalency.



Let's take a quick look at some of that article you offer up as proof.

Overall, Gallup found that only 13% of workers feel engaged by their jobs. That means they feel a sense of passion for their work, a deep connection to their employe and they spend their days driving innovation and moving their company forward.

The vast majority, some 63%, are “not engaged,” meaning they are unhappy but not drastically so. In short, they’re checked out. They sleepwalk through their days, putting little energy into their work.

A full 24% are what Gallup calls “actively disengaged,” meaning they pretty much hate their jobs. They act out and undermine what their coworkers accomplish.



And further:


It turns out the U.S. has some of the best numbers in the world, with 30% happy in their work, 52% feeling blah and 18% who hate their jobs. Those numbers are not what we would want but they are better than most places.


So I see 24% who hate their jobs worldwide, and 18% in the US.  Not well over half.  But even then, the nature of some of the questions listed are written in such a way that the results are sure to skew negative.  For instance:

5. My supervisor, or someone at work, seems to care about me as a person.
10. I have a best friend at work.



A caring boss?  (Meaning what, exactly?) A best friend at work?  What rubbish.

C'mon, Todd, will you give me/us a break?  ;D ;D ;D

According to the Romanian Statistical Institute, there's nothing wrong with Romania. Then please come live in Romania on the average salary, or on the average pension, and then let us know what the statistics are all about...  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 21, 2014, 10:57:46 AM
That is left to anybody's morality and conscience. If you fuck your wife and her highschool girlfriend and film and post it on the internet, that's your business.



Your definition is almost exact enough, but the question is should pornography be banned in cases where it is not, in fact, it cannot be construed as prostitution; that is, if there is no monetary exchange, and the underlying act is legal, should pornography be banned?  If so, on what grounds?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 21, 2014, 10:58:42 AM
Have you read Emil Cioran? (A Romanian, BTW).
Oh, that guy.  ;D

I believe I've read something by him before, but I'd really have to be in a certain mood to read his stuff lol.










Many means something quite different from most.  It changes the nature of your statement.  Words are important.




Well, see, these jobs are not dangerous, generally speaking.  And they are not degrading in the way prostitution is.  Not even close.  You attempted, and continue to attempt, to establish a false equivalency.



Let's take a quick look at some of that article you offer up as proof.

Overall, Gallup found that only 13% of workers feel engaged by their jobs. That means they feel a sense of passion for their work, a deep connection to their employe and they spend their days driving innovation and moving their company forward.

The vast majority, some 63%, are “not engaged,” meaning they are unhappy but not drastically so. In short, they’re checked out. They sleepwalk through their days, putting little energy into their work.

A full 24% are what Gallup calls “actively disengaged,” meaning they pretty much hate their jobs. They act out and undermine what their coworkers accomplish.



And further:


It turns out the U.S. has some of the best numbers in the world, with 30% happy in their work, 52% feeling blah and 18% who hate their jobs. Those numbers are not what we would want but they are better than most places.


So I see 24% who hate their jobs worldwide, and 18% in the US.  Not well over half.  But even then, the nature of some of the questions listed are written in such a way that the results are sure to skew negative.  For instance:

5. My supervisor, or someone at work, seems to care about me as a person.
10. I have a best friend at work.



A caring boss?  (Meaning what, exactly?) A best friend at work?  What rubbish.
Okay, if you don't believe the article I found, find one that states that most people like their job and defend why it's more valid than this one.
Obviously, anything I find will be subject to overanalysis and won't be valid because it represents the opinion that isn't equal to your opinion, so I'll let you find something.

I see you like to twist my words and apply different meanings to them to try to evade the overall point that I'm making.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 21, 2014, 10:59:16 AM
Work is not the place to find personal fulfillment.


I believe one's personal life is the suitable place for that.


Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Florestan on July 21, 2014, 11:00:07 AM
Work is not the place to find personal fulfillment.

Too bad it isn't. It should be. Karl Marx was dead right on this one.  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 21, 2014, 11:01:12 AM
I believe one's personal life is the suitable place for that.

I agree.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 21, 2014, 11:01:33 AM
There should be something fulfilling about spending 40-80 hours a week of your time on something (something fulfilling besides money)...
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 21, 2014, 11:01:48 AM
Work is not the place to find personal fulfillment.

Wise words. There are certainly exceptions, but a lot of woe flows from believing it should be, or that you are entitled it being so. I know one person, a prof, who says, I love my job but if they stop paying me I'll stop showing up.
(He's tenured so maybe he's already stopped showing up.  :))
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 21, 2014, 11:05:19 AM
Too bad it isn't. It should be. Karl Marx was dead right on this one.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Well, in my dreams, I suppose it should be, too.

 8)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Florestan on July 21, 2014, 11:09:44 AM
if there is no monetary exchange, and the underlying act is legal, should pornography be banned?  If so, on what grounds?

I have just stated my position: I am a Christian, for me morality trumps any mundane legality. Morally speaking, pornography is intrinsically evil, even it be legally okay.

Not that I am the most righteous person in this regard...  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 21, 2014, 11:11:24 AM
I have just stated my position: I am a Christian, for me morality trumps any mundane legality. Morally speaking, pornography is intrinsically evil, even it be legally okay.

Not that I am the most righteous person in this regard...  ;D ;D ;D
At least this argue makes sense, even though I'm not sure if I agree with it or not.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 21, 2014, 11:11:55 AM
Quote from: Florestan link=topic=6347.msg817723#msg817723  :laugh: :laugh:=1405973384
I am a Christian
Worse, an engineer!






 >:D :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :P :laugh: 8)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Florestan on July 21, 2014, 11:13:17 AM
There should be something fulfilling about spending 40-80 hours a week of your time on something (something fulfilling besides money)...

You wish!... ;D ;D ;D

The whole modern world is a giant conspiracy to rob all people of their right place! Just ask snyprrrrr...  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 21, 2014, 11:14:28 AM
Just ask snyprrrrr...  ;D ;D ;D ;D

You wicked, wicked man!  ;)   8)   0:)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Florestan on July 21, 2014, 11:15:19 AM
Worse, an engineer!






 >:D :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :P :laugh: 8)

Have you read Lucky Per by Henrik Pontoppidan?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 21, 2014, 11:16:01 AM
Morally speaking, pornography is intrinsically evil, even it be legally okay.


See, now I say the same thing about prayer.

But let's not get off topic.  ;)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 21, 2014, 11:16:12 AM
Okay, if you don't believe the article I found, find one that states that most people like their job and defend why it's more valid than this one.
Obviously, anything I find will be subject to overanalysis and won't be valid because it represents the opinion that isn't equal to your opinion, so I'll let you find something.


You are the one making assertions about most people disliking or, better yet (?), hating work.  You would need to provide solid evidence, and be able to understand why the underlying survey questions may end up skewing results in the evidence you do provide.




I see you like to twist my words and apply different meanings to them to try to evade the overall point that I'm making.


Incorrect.  I simply respond to what you write, not what you wish you had written.  Let's take a look at your gem of a post again:


Well, if the prostitute is being forced to prostitute, then that would definitely be a rape. For someone who chooses to make money off of sex, then I don't see how you can say there is a rape involved if they are willing. Of course, it may involve degradation and psychological harm, but so do most jobs out there (not to mention many jobs involve greater risk of physical harm). The only argument I can understand against prostitution would be from a religious perspective, but then again, there's supposed to be a separation between the church and the state...


The bolded selection attempts to establish a false equivalency between prostitution and most jobs.  That is what you wrote.  You later tried to qualify your statement by selecting first one of the most dangerous of all jobs (combat soldier) and then a partial list of inherently dangerous jobs, and so on. 

What exactly is your overall point?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 21, 2014, 11:18:29 AM
Have you read Lucky Per by Henrik Pontoppidan?
Nope. Nor at $80 will I!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 21, 2014, 11:25:36 AM
Morally speaking, pornography is intrinsically evil, even it be legally okay.


Should all pornography be banned because your Christian morality dictates it should be?  Should all law be based primarily on Christian morality?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 21, 2014, 11:28:52 AM
There are, for instance, Americans in whose opinion classical statuary is "pornography."
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 21, 2014, 11:30:40 AM
There are, for instance, Americans in whose opinion classical statuary is "pornography."
There are some who think music and composing evil.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 21, 2014, 11:37:35 AM

You are the one making assertions about most people disliking or, better yet (?), hating work.  You would need to provide solid evidence, and be able to understand why the underlying survey questions may end up skewing results in the evidence you do provide.





Incorrect.  I simply respond to what you write, not what you wish you had written.  Let's take a look at your gem of a post again:



The bolded selection attempts to establish a false equivalency between prostitution and most jobs.  That is what you wrote.  You later tried to qualify your statement by selecting first one of the most dangerous of all jobs (combat soldier) and then a partial list of inherently dangerous jobs, and so on. 

What exactly is your overall point?
Most jobs are degrading, in a way. Most people can do more with their life than what they do to get paid. And similarly, prostitution can be degrading as well. People put up with stuff that they don't want to do. How degrading a profession is may be in the eye of the beholder. And there may be some prostitutes out there that don't necessarily find it degrading, but may even enjoy it. Likewise with any job.

So my point is that work is degrading, in general. Opinions may vary.

And what about the statistics on people who like their job being a favorable number?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 21, 2014, 11:45:03 AM
Most jobs are degrading, in a way.


How so?  The rest of your statements rely on this, so please elaborate how over half of all jobs are degrading. 

Ultimately, the statement "So my point is that work is degrading, in general" is something one would attribute to someone who is lazy and selfish and who has an enormous sense of entitlement.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 21, 2014, 11:50:53 AM

How so?  The rest of your statements rely on this, so please elaborate how over half of all jobs are degrading. 

Ultimately, the statement "So my point is that work is degrading, in general" is something one would attribute to someone who is lazy and selfish and who has an enormous sense of entitlement.
Okay, now the name calling begins...

anyways, how exactly is prostitution degrading? IIRC, the argument was "because it takes advantage of a woman's financial situation, and if she may be willing to prostitute, it is only out economic necessity." Is this correct?
Title: Re: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 21, 2014, 12:07:34 PM
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anyways, how exactly is prostitution degrading?

Your question cannot be serious.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 21, 2014, 12:09:03 PM
Okay, now the name calling begins...


Not name calling as much as the simple recognition that making the statement "work is degrading, in general" is inherently lazy and selfish, and betrays a sense of entitlement.  This is the mindset of those who believe society owes them something.



anyways, how exactly is prostitution degrading?


This is a profoundly stupid question.
Title: Re: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 21, 2014, 12:10:08 PM
This is a profoundly stupid question.

Your question cannot be serious.
I'm not asking because I'm wondering why, I'm asking because I want a precise definition from those against legalization.


(not that I'm saying prostitution is a good thing, since it obviously isn't)
Title: Re: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 21, 2014, 12:14:45 PM
I'm not asking because I'm wondering why, I'm asking because I want a precise definition from those against legalization.


(not that I'm saying prostitution is a good thing, since it obviously isn't)

I think when a woman has kids prostitution should not be an option. When a woman has no kids, well she needs in some way spend her time, so prositution can be legal. Prostitution is better than slavery, when you do rank people (just a consideration, not yet speaking in terms of moral).

Good question, Greg.
Title: Re: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 21, 2014, 12:15:35 PM
When a woman has no kids, well she needs in some way spend her time, so prositution can be legal.


WTF?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 21, 2014, 12:19:41 PM
If a woman willingly decides to work as a prostitute rather than a dishwasher, she probably finds it less degrading than working as a dishwasher, anyways.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 21, 2014, 12:21:33 PM
Just a bit of a ridiculous (funny) comment, I admit.

But I think some prostitutes make an art of their work, their personality grows. Only to take the step to go into prostitution is hard.

When you legalize many problems that exists when it would be illegal vanishes.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 21, 2014, 12:23:19 PM
But I think some prostitutes make an art of their work, there personality grows.


Whew.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 21, 2014, 12:24:19 PM
If a woman willingly decides to work as a prostitute rather than a dishwasher, she probably finds it less degrading than working as a dishwasher, anyways.

Yes, and do you understand this? Would it also be your choice ;)? A dishwasher is a slave, a prostitute not necessary.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 21, 2014, 12:26:51 PM

Whew.

Well I haven't been to prostitutes so I am guessing a bit. But you have been can I conclude? ;)

I think we are all guessing a bit for this reason. And only from this point of view people like you find it morally unacceptable, so from the viewpoint of men instead of prostitutes!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 21, 2014, 12:30:05 PM
Well I haven't been to prostitutes so I am guessing a bit. But you have been can I conclude? ;)



Nope.  Just surprised that someone can write things more absurd than Greg when it comes to women.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 21, 2014, 12:30:48 PM
When you legalize many problems that exists when it would be illegal vanishes.
It's weird how that works.


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"Women in prostitution generally describe it as paid rape. That’s what if feels like to them," said Farley, who feels the study embodies a "reactionary worldview."
Notice the word "feels."







Yes, and do you understand this? Would it also be your choice ;)? A dishwasher is a slave, a prostitute not necessary.
I would never prostitute myself, but I imagine that since I am a guy, it wouldn't be considered being raped, even if it is out of economic necessity and I don't enjoy it.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 21, 2014, 12:33:19 PM


Nope.  Just surprised that someone can write things more absurd than Greg when it comes to women.
What is specifically "absurd?"

And where are those stats about people generally liking their job?

And is prostitution degrading "because it takes advantage of a woman's financial situation, and if she may be willing to prostitute, it is only out economic necessity?"
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 21, 2014, 12:34:04 PM


Nope.  Just surprised that someone can write things more absurd than Greg when it comes to women.

You should take into consideration not the viewpoint of men but that of the prostitutes. They stand above the men who come visit them. Going to prostitutes is lower than being a prostitute I think for a prostitute. It's only a lower _subculture_ of society, but not necessary morally unacceptable.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 21, 2014, 12:38:37 PM


Nope.  Just surprised that someone can write things more absurd than Greg when it comes to women.
The most absurd claim made here is yours, that you are able to tell women you have never met what does and does not degrade them, and are entitled to substitute your judgment for theirs in the matter.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 21, 2014, 12:39:12 PM
I would never prostitute myself, but I imagine that since I am a guy, it wouldn't be considered being raped, even if it is out of economic necessity and I don't enjoy it.

Raping may appear, but how much of a percentage? I think a lot of men seek consolation, sexual pleasure, and this is not raping. If it's raping then things are different, but when can be spoken of raping? There can be some kind of violence included in sex, but this is not necessary raping. Raping is when a woman doesn't want, and the definition of a prostitute is that she always wants.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 21, 2014, 12:42:07 PM
Raping may appear, but how much of a percentage? I think a lot of men seek consolation, sexual pleasure, and this is not raping. If it's raping then things are different, but when can be speaken of raping. There can be some kind of violence included in sex, but this is not necessary raping. Raping is when a woman doesn't want, and the definition of a prostitute is that she always wants.
And those who deny this distinction deny the prostitute the right to make the decision herself.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 21, 2014, 12:43:02 PM
The most absurd claim made here is yours, that you are able to tell women you have never met what does and does not degrade them, and are entitled to substitute your judgment for theirs in the matter.
Exactly. And telling a woman what is legal or illegal to do with their body when it doesn't harm the other party (the man).
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 21, 2014, 12:48:13 PM
Exactly. And telling a woman what is legal or illegal to do with their body when it doesn't harm the other party (the man).

Well, I think a lot of women in prostitution have regrets about their decision (so there should be a sort of protection against it in society), not every personality is suited for it. She needs to love having sex with different men for example.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 21, 2014, 01:00:06 PM
The most absurd claim made here is yours, that you are able to tell women you have never met what does and does not degrade them, and are entitled to substitute your judgment for theirs in the matter.



Complete nonsense.  The specific sentence I was referring to was But I think some prostitutes make an art of their work, their personality grows.  Perhaps you find this enlightening or true, or maybe even whimsical. 

Since you fancy yourself a evidence-based kinda guy, perhaps you can point to studies, or even a sizable number of testimonials, where prostitutes, and especially former prostitutes, extol the virtues of their profession, and say that it was a wise decision, and something that they would encourage other women to pursue.  I'd like to see the evidence.  I never made any claim that every prostitute doesn't enjoy what she does, or that there aren't some who don't feel degraded by what they do, but the evidence I have seen (from public health professionals, not feminists), and the information I have heard from those with some close knowledge of the profession - some police officers I know, so some informed anecdotal evidence - contradict the abstract musings posted here.  The notion that legalizing prostitution will make the profession much better - that is, change its very nature - is wishful thinking at its most wishful
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 21, 2014, 01:03:59 PM
The specific sentence I was referring to was But I think some prostitutes make an art of their work, their personality grows. 
Normally you'd quote the specific sentence you're referring to when you are responding to it.

And you're asking for tons of statistics and such (yet again) when you still haven't answered my three questions.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 21, 2014, 01:12:19 PM
Normally you'd quote the specific sentence you're referring to when you are responding to it.


I did in the original post responding to what he wrote.  Do try to keep up.

As to your questions, the first and third are profoundly stupid and not worth wasting time on, and with the second, to the extent a burden of proof exists, the burden of proof is yours, not mine; you proclaimed that most employees hate their jobs, and then offered a survey with some questions worded in such a way as to elicit a negative response.  I have also never made a claim that people love or especially like their jobs, just that they don't hate or significantly dislike them.  Being "checked out" in the poll provided may or may not be the same thing.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 21, 2014, 01:14:56 PM


Complete nonsense.  The specific sentence I was referring to was But I think some prostitutes make an art of their work, their personality grows.  Perhaps you find this enlightening or true, or maybe even whimsical. 

Since you fancy yourself a evidence-based kinda guy, perhaps you can point to studies, or even a sizable number of testimonials, where prostitutes, and especially former prostitutes, extol the virtues of their profession, and say that it was a wise decision, and something that they would encourage other women to pursue.  I'd like to see the evidence.  I never made any claim that every prostitute doesn't enjoy what she does, or that there aren't some who don't feel degraded by what they do, but the evidence I have seen (from public health professionals, not feminists), and the information I have heard from those with some close knowledge of the profession - some police officers I know, so some informed anecdotal evidence - contradict the abstract musings posted here.  The notion that legalizing prostitution will make the profession much better - that is, change its very nature - is wishful thinking at its most wishful
When Greg asked in what sense specifically is prostitution degrading you called that a profoundly stupid question. It is not. It is a question about who gets to decide what is degrading to whom. Whose judgment matters. Your response arrogates the right to make this decision for women you have never met. There is no other way the question can be "profoundly stupid".
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 21, 2014, 01:18:39 PM
As to your questions, the first and third are profoundly stupid and not worth wasting time on, and with the second, to the extent a burden of proof exists, the burden of proof is yours, not mine; you proclaimed that most employees hate their jobs, and then offered a survey with some questions worded in such a way as to elicit a negative response.  I have also never made a claim that people love or especially like their jobs, just that they don't hate or significantly dislike them.  Being "checked out" in the poll provided may or may not be the same thing.
So THAT is how you get out of a debate. I oughta try it sometime.  :)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Sammy on July 21, 2014, 01:20:29 PM
This has got to be the most funny and nutty few pages of postings I've ever read on GMG.  All I have to say is that with young men like Greg and Henk on the scene, the future is in good hands. ;D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 21, 2014, 01:23:35 PM
It is not.


But it is. 

It is also decidedly disingenuous when you defend it in the manner you do.  It actually appears that you are answering a different post, because I already addressed the degradation part in the one you quoted.  Perhaps you really do think that prostitution is not degrading, and that some/many/most/all (choose your preference) prostitutes don't find their profession degrading, but that doesn't seem to square with the reality public health and public safety professionals deal with.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 21, 2014, 01:24:11 PM
This has got to be the most funny and nutty few pages of postings I've ever read on GMG.  All I have to say is that with young men like Greg and Henk on the scene, the future is in good hands. ;D

Yeah, we raise the old instead of the other way around. :laugh:
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 21, 2014, 01:27:13 PM
Perhaps you really do think that prostitution is not degrading, and that some/many/most/all (choose your preference) prostitutes don't find their profession degrading, but that doesn't seem to square with the reality public health and public safety professionals deal with.
Mail us stacks of papers of government documents so we can spend hours to critique and debate the fine points of these documents and their "studies." We need statistics. Charts and stuff. NOW!  >:D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Sammy on July 21, 2014, 01:27:47 PM
So THAT is how you get out of a debate. I oughta try it sometime.  :)

Greg, there really hasn't been anything to debate.  However, I did get a big laugh from your comment that dishwashing is more degrading than prostitution.  Perhaps you could find a few dishwashing prostitutes to get the scoop on this matter.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 21, 2014, 01:30:15 PM

But it is. 

It is also decidedly disingenuous when you defend it in the manner you do.  It actually appears that you are answering a different post, because I already addressed the degradation part in the one you quoted.  Perhaps you really do think that prostitution is not degrading, and that some/many/most/all (choose your preference) prostitutes don't find their profession degrading, but that doesn't seem to square with the reality public health and public safety professionals deal with.

I predicted in a PM you'd wheel out the character attacks next.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 21, 2014, 01:30:31 PM
Greg, there really hasn't been anything to debate.  However, I did get a big laugh from your comment that dishwashing is more degrading than prostitution.  Perhaps you could find a few dishwashing prostitutes to get the scoop on this matter.
Of course there may be some that do both.
What about the ones that choose to be prostitutes rather than dishwashers?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 21, 2014, 01:30:54 PM
Mail us stacks of papers of government documents so we can spend hours to critique and debate the fine points of these documents and their "studies." We need statistics.


A lot is online.  A helpful hint: don't rely on Forbes.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 21, 2014, 01:31:27 PM
I predicted in a PM you'd wheel out the character attacks next.


Ah, yes, you've got a secret.  Good for you.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 21, 2014, 01:35:16 PM
This has got to be the most funny and nutty few pages of postings I've ever read on GMG.  All I have to say is that with young men like Greg and Henk on the scene, the future is in good hands. ;D

I suspect you are being ironic, but I like their tolerance and willingness to respect the choices of others. They are a lot more advanced that way than my age cohort was at the same age.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 21, 2014, 01:36:11 PM
Oh, btw, as for the dishwashing prostitutes, there is something called a second job. I've known ladies that work two jobs. Men that work two jobs. No one is forcing you to be a prostitute if you need supplemental income.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 21, 2014, 01:36:33 PM

Ah, yes, you've got a secret.  Good for you.

Not a secret Todd. I understand ad hominem is a fallacy, that's all.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 21, 2014, 01:46:15 PM
Kiwi http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2010/09/29/legalized_brothels_fantastic_for_new_zealand_prostitutes_say.html (http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2010/09/29/legalized_brothels_fantastic_for_new_zealand_prostitutes_say.html)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 21, 2014, 01:46:29 PM
Not a secret Todd. I understand ad hominem is a fallacy, that's all.


I guess if you were being completely honest in your defense of what you term choice, and what you praise as judgment, well, then, that actually provides me with more useful information.  I retract my assertion that your were being disingenuous.  I do not retract my assertion that Greg's question was profoundly stupid.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 21, 2014, 01:50:22 PM
I do not retract my assertion that Greg's question was profoundly stupid.
The one where I'm asking you to define what you think is specifically degrading about prostitution?


Kiwi http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2010/09/29/legalized_brothels_fantastic_for_new_zealand_prostitutes_say.html (http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2010/09/29/legalized_brothels_fantastic_for_new_zealand_prostitutes_say.html)
Safety bonus there.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 21, 2014, 01:52:28 PM
The one where I'm asking you to define what you think is specifically degrading about prostitution?

A prostitute spoils her intimicy, but doesn't care about that much.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 21, 2014, 01:55:24 PM
The only reason I'm asking is because I'm trying to follow the logic of labeling all prostitution as "degrading."

But more specifically, how someone who is willingly being a prostitute doing something that is degrading.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 21, 2014, 01:57:25 PM
Kiwi http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2010/09/29/legalized_brothels_fantastic_for_new_zealand_prostitutes_say.html (http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2010/09/29/legalized_brothels_fantastic_for_new_zealand_prostitutes_say.html)


The best takeaway from this, at least for me, is this little bit of useful information:

Street prostitutes, who account for about 11 per cent of those in the industry, generally haven’t moved indoors, but prostitutes are now more likely to report violence.

“They can pick up the phone and talk to police. That is enormously important,” Healey said in an interview.


Improving safety is a laudable achievement and goal.  I'm not sure that has much bearing on the wisdom of pursing the profession.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 21, 2014, 01:59:29 PM
I'm not sure that has much bearing on the wisdom of pursing the profession.
And working on top of building may not be the wisest choice of profession, either. So?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 21, 2014, 02:00:51 PM

The best takeaway from this, at least for me, is this little bit of useful information:

Street prostitutes, who account for about 11 per cent of those in the industry, generally haven’t moved indoors, but prostitutes are now more likely to report violence.

“They can pick up the phone and talk to police. That is enormously important,” Healey said in an interview.


Improving safety is a laudable achievement and goal.  I'm not sure that has much bearing on the wisdom of pursing the profession.

That's the situation in illegal prositution I bet, in highly degraded parts of cities with lots of crime.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 21, 2014, 02:04:23 PM
That's the situation in illegal prositution I bet, in highly degraded parts of cities with lots of crime.
Yeah, think of being beaten up by some weirdo while you're working, and you get arrested if you report it!  :-\
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 21, 2014, 02:05:43 PM
Todd has a point if he says that prostitution attracts crime. That's an unwanted situation.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 21, 2014, 02:07:37 PM
Todd has a point if he says that prostitution attracts crime. That's an unwanted situation.
Illegal or legal prostitution (or both)?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 21, 2014, 02:11:09 PM
Yeah, think of being beaten up by some weirdo while you're working, and you get arrested if you report it!  :-\

Good point.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 21, 2014, 02:13:51 PM
Illegal or legal prostitution (or both)?

Both I think, but (much?) less when legal. It depends on a lot of things. I think indeed that you can arrange this that crime is minimalized.

Here in my city there are whores, legal, it's a bit spooky street..
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Sammy on July 21, 2014, 02:14:52 PM
Of course there may be some that do both.
What about the ones that choose to be prostitutes rather than dishwashers?

Round them up and do a survey.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 21, 2014, 02:28:00 PM
Round them up and do a survey.
This is impractical obviously, but my point is that it's their choice. They are choosing to be a prostitute- no one is making them.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 21, 2014, 02:32:42 PM
This is impractical obviously, but my point is that it's their choice. They are choosing to be a prostitute- no one is making them.

Shouldn't they be protected, or at least informed about such a life chancing decision? They can make it in moments of dispair for example.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 21, 2014, 02:36:47 PM
Shouldn't they be protected, or at least informed about such a life chancing decision? They can make it in moments of dispair for example.
Sure, though, it seems like they would know what they're getting into and legalization would protect them, as well. As for regret, that's something anyone could have about anything...
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 21, 2014, 02:41:24 PM
Sure, though, it seems like they would know what they're getting into and legalization would protect them, as well. As for regret, that's something anyone could have about anything...

Once you lose your intimicy as a whore, you loose it for your entire life. When a woman is in a vulnerable position and isn't able to make responsible decisions towards herself, then it's not a choice. And my point is that it should be a choice.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on July 21, 2014, 02:54:09 PM
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Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Florestan on July 21, 2014, 11:41:46 PM

Should all pornography be banned because your Christian morality dictates it should be?

My Christian morality dictates only that it is immoral. It says nothing about banning it.

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  Should all law be based primarily on Christian morality?

Of course not. I've never ever said that.

Look, I'm not a prude, I've watched enough porn myself. My whole point is this: I simply cannot understand why prostitution is illegal and pornography is not, in one and the same country (or US state).
Prostitution is degrading, yes, and the fact that sometimes it is a choice doesn't change its character (people may very well choose to degrade themselves); but honestly, pornography involves far more degrading things to women than the car or wood quickie of a streetwalker. And basically, they are one and the same thing: selling sex for money. Legalizing one and banning the other is highly illogical.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Florestan on July 22, 2014, 12:17:35 AM
Most jobs are degrading, in a way.

In which way, exactly?

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So my point is that work is degrading, in general.

Buy a cotton plantation and some slaves and you'll never have to work again. ;D

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Florestan on July 22, 2014, 12:22:29 AM
A dishwasher is a slave

Do you realize just how ridiculous this sounds?

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 22, 2014, 03:25:46 AM
And working on top of building may not be the wisest choice of profession, either. So?

Continuing with this fantasist false equivalency of "just another job, nothing to see here, folks."
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 22, 2014, 03:28:15 AM
This is impractical obviously, but my point is that it's their choice. They are choosing to be a prostitute- no one is making them.

The point which you consistently avoid -- and understandably, as it is in no way convenient to the opinion which you are determined to shield from any harm -- is that this "it's their choice" is contemptibly glib, does not even benefit from being naïve.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 22, 2014, 03:29:17 AM
Do you realize just how ridiculous this sounds?

I don't believe he does.

Certainly Greg did not.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 22, 2014, 04:56:46 AM
Legalizing one and banning the other is highly illogical.



Depends on the rationale used, and if the rationale is based on empirical evidence.  From a public health and safety standpoint, attempting to curtail prostitution can make sense since there are far more non-pornography prostitutes, and there are no free speech implications - whatever one may think of those.  And incidentally, the California porn industry was forced to shut down last year or this year due to HIV infection, if memory serves, so public health can be a rationale for shutting the "official" industry down, if only temporarily. Of course, this does not mean that no porn was made during the period, especially in other areas.

Also, there is more than just a binary choice of legalization or banning.  There is also decriminalization.  That is an important distinction, and it prevents the nightmare scenario that has occurred several times in Germany where women were denied welfare benefits because they turned down work as prostitutes.  There's no good reason to throw people in prison for such behavior, either, and given that a lot of women (and presumably men) who engage in this profession may need assistance with other issues (abuse, drug addiction, etc), increasing resources available to assist with those issues may also be helpful.  The practice can never be stopped, and it certainly ought not to be promoted, but it can be addressed with less costly and less destructive policies.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Florestan on July 22, 2014, 05:00:18 AM
it prevents the nightmare scenario that has occurred several times in Germany where women were denied welfare benefits because they turned down work as prostitutes.

Did that really happen?  :o

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The practice can never be stopped, and it certainly ought not to be promoted, but it can be addressed with less costly and less destructive policies.

Agreed.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 22, 2014, 05:18:02 AM
Do you realize just how ridiculous this sounds?

To give a general defition: "Who has not 2/3 of the day for himself, is a slave." (Nietzsche, Human al too human)

I don't agree completely with this definition though.

When people can be selfsteering in their jobs then people can be happy (instead of being a slave). I think a dishwasher isn't, certainly not when he does it 8 hours or more a day.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 22, 2014, 05:20:03 AM
A philosophical musing, is not a definition.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 22, 2014, 05:24:18 AM
A philosophical musing, is not a definition.

Ok, not in absolute terms. Therefor I don't agree with it as I wrote. See extra comments in the edited post.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Florestan on July 22, 2014, 05:27:44 AM
To give a general defition: "Who has not 2/3 of the day for himself, is a slave." (Nietzsche, Human al too human)

See, that's your problem: too much Nietzsche, too little life.  ;D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 22, 2014, 06:15:54 AM
To give a general defition: "Who has not 2/3 of the day for himself, is a slave." (Nietzsche, Human al too human)

I don't agree completely with this definition though.

When people can be selfsteering in their jobs then people can be happy (instead of being a slave). I think a dishwasher isn't, certainly not when he does it 8 hours or more a day.
It's certainly not cotton-picking American slave labor, but that's what you'd call wage slavery.



Continuing with this fantasist false equivalency of "just another job, nothing to see here, folks."
To us it's not just another job, but there may be prostitutes who do think it's just another job. Do something you don't like and get paid. It may feel more normal than you think to them, especially if they're the type that sleeps around already.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 22, 2014, 06:17:39 AM
The point which you consistently avoid -- and understandably, as it is in no way convenient to the opinion which you are determined to shield from any harm -- is that this "it's their choice" is contemptibly glib, does not even benefit from being naïve.
They can choose not to be a prostitute. End of story.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 22, 2014, 07:03:51 AM
Parrèsia, Greg.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Gurn Blanston on July 22, 2014, 07:33:52 AM
They can choose not to be a prostitute. End of story.

Well, sadly, and not wanting to sound like a dick here, but you could choose to have a well-paying, satisfying job and be happily married too. Yet apparently you haven't. It's just a matter of choosing, isn't it?

8)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 22, 2014, 07:38:31 AM
Did that really happen?


Over the past few years I read a few stories from European news outlets that claimed that, but a quick scan online today shows that it may not be true.  (I assumed, if it did happen, that it would have been attributable to bureaucratic incompetence, rather than intentional policy.) 
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 22, 2014, 07:44:02 AM
When people can be selfsteering in their jobs then people can be happy (instead of being a slave).


See, there's the problem.  Employers don't hire people to self-steer; employers hire people to do specific jobs.  It is true that some jobs are more flexible than others.

On the plus side, increasing automation in a broader array of jobs will result in the need for less human labor, so a larger portion of the population will have 3/3rds of each day to do exciting things like ponder the lint in their navels.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 22, 2014, 07:47:14 AM
Why do people become prostitutes? Does anyone doubt that it's the high wages? High compared to what they could make otherwise.  Because some of you sound like you think there are other reasons.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: springrite on July 22, 2014, 07:48:45 AM


On the plus side, increasing automation in a broader array of jobs will result in the need for less human labor, so a larger portion of the population will have 3/3rds of each day to do exciting things like ponder the lint in their navels.

Let's hope that's what they do, as it is harmless and passes time nicely. There are far worse alternatives which many eventually pick up.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 22, 2014, 07:48:50 AM
Well, sadly, and not wanting to sound like a dick here, but you could choose to have a well-paying, satisfying job and be happily married too. Yet apparently you haven't. It's just a matter of choosing, isn't it?

8)
You do know that acquiring a bachelor's degree takes time, right? So yeah, I've already chosen to have a well-paying, satisfying job, and I will have one.
As for marriage, doesn't really matter much to me whether that happens or not, but if it did, I'd make sure it were the right person. No one has to get married.

If someone feels like prostitution is a last resort option, there is always unemployment or whatever various welfare benefits out there if they can't find a second job (or a first one). Just do whatever anyone else does that wouldn't be marketable as a prostitute.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: springrite on July 22, 2014, 07:50:59 AM

If someone feels like prostitution is a last resort option ...

It's almost never the first option, nor the last. Just one of...
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 22, 2014, 07:51:45 AM
Why do people become prostitutes? Does anyone doubt that it's the high wages?


What about the ones who are forced into it? 
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 22, 2014, 07:54:21 AM

What about the ones who are forced into it?
That's exactly what we are NOT talking about. That's rape, whether the client knows it or not.

We are talking about people who CHOOSE to be prostitutes.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: springrite on July 22, 2014, 07:56:19 AM

What about the ones who are forced into it?

Good point.

For those who enter it on a voluntary basis, getting to the reward quickly (as opposed to minimum wage, for instance) is often one of the reasons. That is why often one way to get some women to get into prostitution "voluntarily" is to get them hood on drugs (often provided initially) so that they'd have a need for quick cash constantly to feed the habit.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 22, 2014, 07:57:33 AM
We are talking about people who CHOOSE to be prostitutes.



What about a 16 year old - where 16 is the age of consent - who runs away from home, picks up a drug habit, and becomes a prostitute because the so-called "high wages" surpass the $7.25/hour she or he can make at <insert exploitative, evil TNC here>? 

[I see springrite already posted much the same thing, but I wanted to throw in the age thing.]
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 22, 2014, 08:01:38 AM

See, there's the problem.  Employers don't hire people to self-steer; employers hire people to do specific jobs.  It is true that some jobs are more flexible than others.

On the plus side, increasing automation in a broader array of jobs will result in the need for less human labor, so a larger portion of the population will have 3/3rds of each day to do exciting things like ponder the lint in their navels.

"Communicative selfsteering", Todd, a term introduced by knowledge theoricean Arnold Cornelis. It's a "logical pair". Specialists want to expand their life program and "hidden program", they think what the new possibilities are from their specialism, making the connection with the large communicative system. Selfsteering humans want to know the new possibilities from the new knowledge to excute in their selfsteering.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 22, 2014, 08:03:07 AM


What about a 16 year old - where 16 is the age of consent - who runs away from home, picks up a drug habit, and becomes a prostitute because the so-called "high wages" surpass the $7.25/hour she or he can make at <insert exploitative, evil TNC here>? 

[I see springrite already posted much the same thing, but I wanted to throw in the age thing.]
Then that is one dumb 16 year old.
But besides that, just work at that $7.25/hour job like the rest of the world. Just because you have another option of a higher paying job doesn't mean you have to do it. You can probably get some sort of government benefits if you are of age to work and are unemployed. Maybe raising minimum wage would help, but that's besides the point. It's still their choice.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 22, 2014, 08:08:34 AM
Then that is one dumb 16 year old.
But besides that, just work at that $7.25/hour job like the rest of the world. Just because you have another option of a higher paying job doesn't mean you have to do it. You can probably get some sort of government benefits if you are of age to work and are unemployed. Maybe raising minimum wage would help, but that's besides the point. It's still their choice.

Consider it's a mistake. No "second change"?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Florestan on July 22, 2014, 08:09:11 AM
Then that is one dumb 16 year old.

Oh yes, the world is full of 16-year-old female geniuses who have all the expertise needed to avoid falling into nasty tricks.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 22, 2014, 08:10:25 AM


What about a 16 year old - where 16 is the age of consent - who runs away from home, picks up a drug habit, and becomes a prostitute because the so-called "high wages" surpass the $7.25/hour she or he can make at <insert exploitative, evil TNC here>? 

[I see springrite already posted much the same thing, but I wanted to throw in the age thing.]

Well if we are throwing in age of consent issues, the age at which you can make a contract is also relevant.  It is generally higher, and I think you can make colourable arguments about exploitation and informed consent with prostitutes (either sex) below that age.
But as I understand it you and Karl are making an argument you mean to apply to 30 year old women (as am I). I have no problem treating minors differently, but let's not muddy the waters. Just because we want one law for 16 years does not mean we need the same law for adults.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: springrite on July 22, 2014, 08:12:33 AM
It is important to distinguish whether we are legislating morality or criminality. I have strong moral principles but I am against legislating it.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Florestan on July 22, 2014, 08:15:25 AM
It is important to distinguish whether we are legislating morality or criminality.

I agree but how can we make that distinction? Criminalizing prostitution implies ipso facto a moral judgment.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 22, 2014, 08:17:23 AM
Oh yes, the world is full of 16-year-old female geniuses who have all the expertise needed to avoid falling into nasty tricks.
18 is usually the age of consent almost anywhere, anyways. Are 18 year olds old enough to make their own decisions?
I think most 16-18 year olds know what sex is and what money is. If they are tricked in some other sort of way, then that's not their fault. If it's a normal transaction, that's their (poor) choice.


It is important to distinguish whether we are legislating morality or criminality. I have strong moral principles but I am against legislating it.
I feel this way. Morally wrong sure, but whether it should be legal/illegal is another story worth examining.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 22, 2014, 08:18:45 AM
It is important to distinguish whether we are legislating morality or criminality. I have strong moral principles but I am against legislating it.

Good point, but there's also the aspect of emancipation: protecting the weakests. Adversity isn't spread equally over humans.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 22, 2014, 08:19:22 AM
They can choose not to be a prostitute. End of story.

We are talking about people who CHOOSE to be prostitutes.

Which is to say, such a statistically small percentage of prostitutes, that building one's whole argument around this "ideal" minority is short-sighted and ghastly.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Florestan on July 22, 2014, 08:20:25 AM
Are 18 year olds old enough to make their own decisions?

It depends. It should be decided on a case by case basis. I know people of 30 who can't make an informed choice.  ;D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 22, 2014, 08:21:25 AM
Some eighteen-year-olds aren't capable of distinguishing differences in the matter of choice.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 22, 2014, 08:27:58 AM
Which is to say, such a statistically small percentage of prostitutes, that building one's whole argument around this "ideal" minority is short-sighted and ghastly.

Well, that's my point of view. Prositution as a subculture, without crime. Women who love to have sex with different men. Prostitution as an art, whereby it's about finding one's intimicy back again and again. And about getting trustful relations with their clients and also the ability to reject certain clients by having insight in human character.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 22, 2014, 08:32:25 AM
Which is to say, such a statistically small percentage of prostitutes, that building one's whole argument around this "ideal" minority is short-sighted and ghastly.
And how do you know that it is such a statistically small percentage?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 22, 2014, 08:37:03 AM
Prostitution as a subculture is far more better than ending in porn-culture. And isn't pornculture legal?

Anyone who doesn't know the dimension in prostitution as I sketched in my previous reply, fails to judge rightly. It's why prostitution has it's positive attraction.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 22, 2014, 08:38:03 AM
And how do you know that it is such a statistically small percentage?

Says the fellow who asserts that it is the rule.  You didn't read the paragraphs I posted, did you?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: springrite on July 22, 2014, 08:40:29 AM
Says the fellow who asserts that it is the rule.  You didn't read the paragraphs I posted, did you?

Why bother to read if the reply has been readied before reading and regardless of what might be read?  ;)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Florestan on July 22, 2014, 08:40:39 AM
Anyone who doesn't know the dimension in prostitution as I sketched in my previous reply, fails to judge rightly.

And how come you know that dimension? How many prostitutes have you met and talked to? Two? Twenty? Two hundreds?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 22, 2014, 08:43:13 AM
And how come you know that dimension? How many prostitutes have you met and talked to? Two? Twenty? Two hundreds?

I tried to find an other word for "know" but couldn't find.

Just throwing in some other viewpoints to consider.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: springrite on July 22, 2014, 08:44:23 AM
And how come you know that dimension? How many prostitutes have you met and talked to? Two? Twenty? Two hundreds?

Suddenly realised I may be the authority on the subject here…
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 22, 2014, 08:45:30 AM
Well if we are throwing in age of consent issues, the age at which you can make a contract is also relevant.  It is generally higher, and I think you can make colourable arguments about exploitation and informed consent with prostitutes (either sex) below that age.


How does contract law apply to illegal activities?  And if one treats prostitution as employment, in jurisdictions that allow people to work as young as 14 or 15, why would prostitution be any different, if you are taking a legalistic approach?


But as I understand it you and Karl are making an argument you mean to apply to 30 year old women (as am I). I have no problem treating minors differently, but let's not muddy the waters. Just because we want one law for 16 years does not mean we need the same law for adults.


I'd like to see an age distribution for prostitutes.  Somehow I think a 30 year old person making a cool, rational choice to enter the profession is comparatively rare. 
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Florestan on July 22, 2014, 08:46:26 AM
Just throwing in some other viewpoints to consider.

What's to consider in uninformed viewpoints based on zero expertise or evidence? Don't you see you make a fool of yourself big time with this attitude?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 22, 2014, 08:49:18 AM
Why bother to read if the reply has been readied before reading and regardless of what might be read?  ;)

There is that, too 8)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 22, 2014, 08:49:51 AM
What's to consider in uninformed viewpoints based on zero expertise or evidence? Don't you see you make a fool of yourself big time with this attitude?

Just rational consideration and imaginations.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Florestan on July 22, 2014, 08:52:53 AM
Just rational consideration and imaginations.

Are you going to seriously claim that it is rational considerations that lead you to the theory of prostitution as personal development, intimacy and trustful relationships?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 22, 2014, 08:56:02 AM
Are you going to seriously claim that it is rational considerations that lead you to the theory of prostitution as personal development, intimacy and trustful relationships?

Yes, but come to the point please.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Florestan on July 22, 2014, 08:58:53 AM
Yes

A theory is no good if it is not tested. I ask you again: how many prostitutes have you met and talked to?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 22, 2014, 09:00:48 AM
A theory is no good if it is not tested. I ask you again: how many prostitutes have you met and talked to?

You call it a theory, I didn't. It's prostitution as an ideal rather, which is more likely to develop if legal than illegal.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Florestan on July 22, 2014, 09:01:44 AM
You call it a theory, I didn't.

Could you please answer my question?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 22, 2014, 09:03:34 AM
Could you please answer my question?

I answered that already implicitly and why should I answer at all? I never have spoken to a whore. But I have picked up some things in the news and in literature.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 22, 2014, 09:05:10 AM
You call it a theory, I didn't. It's prostitution as an ideal rather, which is more likely to develop if legal than illegal.

Um, the fact that you didn't call it a theory, does not make it more than a theory.  You can call your theory an "ideal," if you like, but that doesn't make it any less divorced from the real world, and from real women.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Florestan on July 22, 2014, 09:05:44 AM
I never have spoken to a whore.

I rest my case.

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 22, 2014, 09:08:49 AM
Um, the fact that you didn't call it a theory, does not make it more than a theory.  You can call your theory an "ideal," if you like, but that doesn't make it any less divorced from the real world, and from real women.

As I said I just throwed in some thought to consider, to enrich the discussion, not to get all the mud over me.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Gurn Blanston on July 22, 2014, 09:11:54 AM
As I said I just throwed in some thought to consider, to enrich the discussion, not to get all the mud over me.

Well, now it is enriched mud.  >:D

8)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 22, 2014, 09:13:11 AM
Florestan, an immoral moralist.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 22, 2014, 09:15:35 AM
Florestan, an immoral moralist.

Adding ad hominem to your other fallacies.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 22, 2014, 09:17:39 AM
Adding ad hominem to your other fallacies.

No, I say the truth. What are my "other fallacies"? Please with contextual qoutes from me.

A shame that my indulgence is taken wrongly.

Why defend Florestan, Karl?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Florestan on July 22, 2014, 09:31:49 AM
Florestan, an immoral moralist.

Why not a moral immoralist?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 22, 2014, 09:32:23 AM
Ok, Karl, I understand that you don't defend Floreston, but more the codes of good behaviour. I think however I do not violate them.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: springrite on July 22, 2014, 09:32:48 AM
Why not a moral immoralist?

Wagnerian?  :o
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 22, 2014, 09:34:02 AM
Why not a moral immoralist?

An immoralist doesn't use morals, that's against his proud and above all he would belie himself.

And an immoralist also doesn't use those immoral tricks like you. That's too low for him. An immoralist cannot be described as someone who like to trick or misuse other people. He want to go beyond morals, that's what he strives for in my view. This makes him feel proud, and he is immune for moral arguments, moral attacks.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 22, 2014, 10:08:55 AM
A rule to keep in mind: if you buy stuff of monetary value for someone you are dating, make sure she doesn't decide to compensate in the form of sex. Actually, specifically say "don't have sexual activity with me because I'm buying you something." If she does, that makes you a rapist.  :P

So there must be A LOT of relationships out there that involve rape...  ???
(probably safer to not buy anything, which would be just fine)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 22, 2014, 10:11:52 AM
A rule to keep in mind: if you buy stuff of monetary value for someone you are dating, make sure she doesn't decide to compensate in the form of sex. Actually, specifically say "don't have sexual activity with me because I'm buying you something." If she does, that makes you a rapist.  :P

So there must be A LOT of relationships out there that involve rape...  ???
(probably safer to not buy anything, which would be just fine)

Interesting argument. Rape is not the right word however.

However you tend to think women as weak and they have to take the consequences for this, without character, but I think this is not true. Character is rather spread equally over the sexes. Aren't your feeling towards women not too much feed with personal experience? Not that's that not a valid source of argueing, but you might think differently in a different situation.

You only seem to argue about weak women, without personality, being dishonest to women who actually can be your girlfriend.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: springrite on July 22, 2014, 10:13:46 AM
"I am not paying for this because I am planning to have sex with you!"
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 22, 2014, 10:18:29 AM
Interesting argument. Rape is not the right word however.
That's sorta the argument that people are making- that the definition of rape extends to that- that any monetary transaction that leads to sex is rape.
I guess you could make a case for it, but it gets into some bizarre and difficult territory.


"I am not paying for this because I am planning to have sex with you!"
Exclaim that loud and clear! I'm not the type to buy people stuff, but I want to make sure that one day I'm not labeled a rapist.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: springrite on July 22, 2014, 10:20:17 AM
Exclaim that loud and clear! I'm not the type to buy people stuff, but I want to make sure that one day I'm not labeled a rapist.

That's the great thing about being a moralist. A moralist can make cheap honourable.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 22, 2014, 10:23:23 AM
That's the great thing about being a moralist. A moralist can make cheap honourable.
Hell yeah!  :D
Take a girl out on a date and don't buy her shit- if she asks, just reply, "I'm not a rapist, you weirdo!"  ;D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 22, 2014, 10:28:43 AM
Hell yeah!  :D
Take a girl out on a date and don't buy her shit- if she asks, just reply, "I'm not a rapist, you weirdo!"  ;D

That should rarther be an immoralist's behaviour.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 22, 2014, 10:30:19 AM
Hell yeah!  :D
Take a girl out on a date and don't buy her shit- if she asks, just reply, "I'm not a rapist, you weirdo!"  ;D

"Now I'm gonna fuck you!"  :o
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 22, 2014, 10:41:28 AM
So the conclusion can be drawn: buying a woman stuff is rather an act of love. Buying sex is that in a way also.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 22, 2014, 10:41:51 AM
That should rarther be an immoralist's behaviour.
I refuse! I wanna be cheap! ;D



But that definition of rape can extend to some weird places. For example, if I married some nasty old lady that I disliked only because she was rich (and with marriage, obviously comes sex), would that make her a rapist? I mean, I'm not exactly rich right now, and if I were really poor, that could lead me out of poverty. (I'm not concluding at the moment that she is or isn't, just wondering because of the similarities).
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 22, 2014, 10:42:51 AM
So the conclusion can be drawn: buying a woman stuff is an act of love. Buying sex is that in a way also.
Not sure... you can try to buy sex with someone without loving them.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: springrite on July 22, 2014, 10:43:00 AM
So the conclusion can be drawn: buying a woman stuff is rather an act of love. Buying sex is that in a way also.

Don't you love logic?  >:D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 22, 2014, 10:47:30 AM
I refuse! I wanna be cheap! ;D



But that definition of rape can extend to some weird places. For example, if I married some nasty old lady that I disliked only because she was rich (and with marriage, obviously comes sex), would that make her a rapist? I mean, I'm not exactly rich right now, and if I were really poor, that could lead me out of poverty. (I'm not concluding at the moment that she is or isn't, just wondering because of the similarities).

Well from your point of view it's definitely prostitution. You make a distiction between men and women. Being raped as a man, it's a matter of money, being raped as a woman it's a matter about protesting to sex.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 22, 2014, 10:51:31 AM
Well from your point of view it's definitely prostitution. You make a distiction between men and women. Being raped as a man, it's a matter of money, being raped as a woman it's a matter about protesting to sex.
I'm not quite sure what you mean here...
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: springrite on July 22, 2014, 10:56:02 AM
I'm not quite sure what you mean here...
This finally provides an opportunity to end a fruitless discussion, I hope.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 22, 2014, 10:57:05 AM
Not sure... you can try to buy sex with someone without loving them.

It's all a matter of trust and instinct to know whether there's affection or "raping". So a whore can avoid having sex, reject a client. I'm curious about if whores experience this, if they feel raped much or not. I think not, and then buying sex can be seen as a sign of affection.

Because the client pays money, he does efforts, the whore feels rewarded, the client feels this as well, and he gets something in return. The whores needs to bear some violent sex by a frustrated man maybe, but her role is usually to console, and keeps her dignity.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 22, 2014, 10:57:50 AM
I'm not quite sure what you mean here...

Forget about it.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 22, 2014, 11:04:03 AM

How does contract law apply to illegal activities? 

Huh? We are talking about whether the activity should be illegal.
 
The age at which you can enter a contract is as relevant as the age you mentioned, the "age of consent". Sex with someone under the "age of consent" is rape even if entered into willingly. The law says a sex act cannot be legally consented to before that age. Why logically must that be the same age that a contract for sex can be legally agreed to, or a prostitute hired. It seems to me plain that both minimum ages are relevant, since we are looking at issues around sex and contracts. If I need a driver's licence to drive and a passport to go to Mexico, then why is it odd to suggest I need both to drive to Mexico? We might logically say that sex can be consented to at 16 but prostitution cannot until 19 or 21.  There is no logical contradiction.

The age of contract corresponds roughly to our legal idea of a responsible adult as opposed to a minor. I think, age of consent aside, that there is a difference between the legal issues around 17 year old prostitutes and those around 30 year old prostitutes. Once again you are trying to argue that because I believe  prostitution should be legal for *adults* I must argue it should be legal for children.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 22, 2014, 11:12:35 AM
This finally provides an opportunity to end a fruitless discussion, I hope.

Fruitless, why so pessimistic?

But I agree, let's round it up.

NP:
Tina Turner - What's love got to do with it.

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 22, 2014, 12:06:23 PM
Why logically must that be the same age that a contract for sex can be legally agreed to


What is a "contract for sex", what would it look like, how would it be enforced, etc?  Do you envision a profession where service provider and client take the time to execute a written agreement?  (Maybe that's the case in Vegas, Amsterdam, etc, I don't know.)  A verbal agreement seems more than a bit difficult to enforce, and there is nothing to prevent a person from saying or writing "I swear, under penalty, I'm <insert minimum age here>", especially in this profession - unless rigorous background checks and documentation requirements are put in place.  That seems implausible in many jurisdictions.  I see little to no workable safeguards or value to a contract law argument.

Also, you can go on about a mythical 30 year old prostitute, but this ignores the less pleasant reality that many, and probably most, sex workers get their start at a much younger age, and for reasons that may render so-called "choice" a bit questionable.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 22, 2014, 12:23:35 PM

What is a "contract for sex", what would it look like, how would it be enforced, etc?  Do you envision a profession where service provider and client take the time to execute a written agreement?  (Maybe that's the case in Vegas, Amsterdam, etc, I don't know.)  A verbal agreement seems more than a bit difficult to enforce, and there is nothing to prevent a person from saying or writing "I swear, under penalty, I'm <insert minimum age here>", especially in this profession - unless rigorous background checks and documentation requirements are put in place.  That seems implausible in many jurisdictions.  I see little to no workable safeguards or value to a contract law argument.

Also, you can go on about a mythical 30 year old prostitute, but this ignores the less pleasant reality that many, and probably most, sex workers get their start at a much younger age, and for reasons that may render so-called "choice" a bit questionable.

Todd you introduced the age of consent, as if it would necessarily be the case anyone who wanted to legalize prostitution wanted to do it for anyone above the age of consent, even that includes people most do not consider adult. It's a shoddy rhetorical trick.

I think adults should be free to choose who they have sex with, or why. That means I think prostitution should be legalized for adults. Who counts as adult? That's legally connected to the age of contract, and not the age of consent, as I have explained.

"Mythical 30-year-old prostitute"? They go into a holding pattern at 29? Vanish?

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 22, 2014, 01:43:17 PM
Protect and serve. She got well-protected.
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140717/08542227915/california-highway-patrol-seizes-medical-records-woman-officer-was-caught-tape-beating.shtml (https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140717/08542227915/california-highway-patrol-seizes-medical-records-woman-officer-was-caught-tape-beating.shtml)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 22, 2014, 04:33:53 PM
Who was wondering why there are so few women who participate here at GMG? . . .
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 22, 2014, 04:46:44 PM
Who was wondering why there are so few women who participate here at GMG? . . .
I quite agree. The idea that mature grown women should not be allowed to choose who they have sex with, or why, without policeman butting in is surely off-putting.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 22, 2014, 05:54:47 PM
The only really good argument against legalizing prostitution is the potential for increase in human trafficking. (Then there is the counter-argument that if prostitutes are given enough legal protection and power, they won't have to worry about physical threats, etc.)

I was curious about responses to a few things.

How many people here there are in full support of illegalization of prostitution would still think that way if they were someone who is so disabled/physically scarred that the only way that they could ever have sex is through a financial transaction? Would you willingly remain a virgin your whole life because you think all prostitution is bad?

Also, if prostitution is an expression of male power through money leading to rape, there are other forms of power... for example, I knew someone who dated this really undesirable guy. I heard she only did because she felt bad for him. In other words, she felt coerced into dating/sex because she's nice and didn't want to feel like a jerk. So he basically had the power of being pathetic.  :P Is this guy a rapist?

What about two people I used to work with who were dating, and he bought her a $500 ring once- if this led her to have sex with him more times than she would have otherwise, and felt coerced into doing so because of the object of high monetary value, is this guy a rapist?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 22, 2014, 05:58:41 PM
The only really good argument against legalizing prostitution is the potential for increase in human trafficking. (Then there is the counter-argument that if prostitutes are given enough legal protection and power, they won't have to worry about physical threats, etc.)

I was curious about responses to a few things.

How many people here there are in full support of illegalization of prostitution would still think that way if they were someone who is so disabled/physically scarred that the only way that they could ever have sex is through a financial transaction? Would you willingly remain a virgin your whole life because you think all prostitution is bad?

Also, if prostitution is an expression of male power through money leading to rape, there are other forms of power... for example, I knew someone who dated this really undesirable guy. I heard she only did because she felt bad for him. In other words, she felt coerced into dating/sex because she's nice and didn't want to feel like a jerk. So he basically had the power of being pathetic.  :P Is this guy a rapist?

What about two people I used to work with who were dating, and he bought her a $500 ring once- if this led her to have sex with him more times than she would have otherwise, and felt coerced into doing so because of the object of high monetary value, is this guy a rapist?

I am more interested in those who supoort legalized abortion on the grounds "my body, my choice" but who would criminalize prostitution. "Your body, my veto."
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 22, 2014, 06:07:05 PM
I am more interested in those who supoort legalized abortion on the grounds "my body, my choice" but who would criminalize prostitution. "Your body, my veto."
I'm interested in the reasoning behind that, as well.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 22, 2014, 07:52:06 PM
Out of curiosity, I looked up what radical feminists think of gay porn.
Basically, the argument is that the one taking is simulating a woman and the one giving it is the man, so it's wrong.  ???
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Florestan on July 22, 2014, 08:58:57 PM
And an immoralist also doesn't use those immoral tricks like you.

I beg your pardon? What is immoral, or tricky, in asking you to provide real-life support and evidence for your theory?

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That's too low for him. An immoralist cannot be described as someone who like to trick or misuse other people. He want to go beyond morals, that's what he strives for in my view. This makes him feel proud, and he is immune for moral arguments, moral attacks.

Your view, or Nietzsche's?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 23, 2014, 07:13:57 AM
I quite agree. The idea that mature grown women should not be allowed to choose who they have sex with, or why, without policeman butting in is surely off-putting.

You cannot pretend that you missed my point.

People, male, arguing that we ought to legalize a practice which makes a woman's body a commodity (oh! and conveniently, an obvious distinction to make between prostitution and abortion).

The only really good argument against legalizing prostitution is the potential for increase in human trafficking.

So how many women have you discussed this with?  Have the discussions taken place in person?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 23, 2014, 07:47:45 AM
I beg your pardon? What is immoral, or tricky, in asking you to provide real-life support and evidence for your theory?

Your view, or Nietzsche's?

You lead me into your fyke (or "hoop net"). You did this earlier to me. And again, I never said it was a theory, I just throwed in some "viewpoints" as I said.

I can't give you a quote by Nietzsche about this, so it's my view (but influenced of course by Nietzsche). I feel however that you might be playing the same trick here again. :( No normal conversation possible between us it seems. You only ask about things every time, instead of reply in some fruitful way, that's no conversation, that's your fyke. And in the end you say: "I rest my case".

Now I won't reply to your next message anymore, would you reply.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 23, 2014, 07:53:58 AM
You cannot pretend that you missed my point.

People, male, arguing that we ought to legalize a practice which makes a woman's body a commodity (oh! and conveniently, an obvious distinction to make between prostitution and abortion).


Very weak Karl. Anyone has the right to discuss what and what should not be legal, regardless of their sex. Perhaps you would say atheists cannot discuss if there should be prayer in school? And unless your photo deceives the stricture applies to you as well, yet here you are.

I am trying to be polite here but demanding credentials to offer an opinion is a way to avoid debate and shout down disagreement.

And to be clear, what makes *anyone's* body a commodity is their *choice* to offer it as one.  I want to respect that choice.



Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Florestan on July 23, 2014, 09:05:17 AM
I never said it was a theory, I just throwed in some "viewpoints" as I said.

If only you could make a clear distinction between "theory" and "viewpoint"...

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I can't give you a quote by Nietzsche about this, so it's my view (but influenced of course by Nietzsche).

If it were in my power, I would forbid anyone not married, not having a regular job and not having had sexual intercourse in the last 2 weeks from reading Nietzsche. He was a madman: driving crazy other people while in the process making them believe they are somehow superior to the species was, and apparently still is, his trademark.

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You only ask about things every time

Well, forgive me for being an engineer, i.e. one accustomed to work with, and ask for, facts, data and evidence.

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instead of reply in some fruitful way

In my dictionary "fruitful" is very different from "pontificating about" or "ranting".


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Now I won't reply to your next message anymore, would you reply.

Romanians have a saying for that kind of attitude: I'll pack up my toys and leave the game.  ;D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 23, 2014, 09:11:18 AM
If it were in my power, I would forbid anyone not married, not having a regular job and not having had sexual intercourse in the last 2 weeks from reading Nietzsche. He was a madman: driving crazy other people while in the process making them believe they are somehow superior to the species was, and apparently still is, his trademark.

Whom the gods destroy, they first compel to read Nietzsche 8)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 23, 2014, 09:20:40 AM
Related to our recent discussions http://www.gwu.edu/~soc/docs/Weitzer/Prostitution_Facts.pdf
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 23, 2014, 09:22:38 AM
Florestan
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Well, forgive me for being an engineer, i.e. one accustomed to work with, and ask for, facts, data and evidence.

We are going to have to discuss transubstantiation some day, mon cher ami!  >:D :laugh: 8)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Florestan on July 23, 2014, 09:25:33 AM
Florestan
We are going to have to discuss transubstantiation some day, mon cher ami!  >:D :laugh: 8)

Any time you want. If I may ask, when was the last time you had communion?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 23, 2014, 09:42:32 AM
So how many women have you discussed this with?  Have the discussions taken place in person?
That's not exactly how you get statistics.
It may be true that legalization leads to more human trafficking/forced prostitution. In that case, the only way it could have a chance at reducing that is a ton of worker protection.


Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 23, 2014, 09:45:22 AM
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A few weeks later an acquaintance told me she thought prostitution was a “woman’s choice, and can be empowering.”
It's a matter of perspective. In the situation where a man that has to pay money to get sex with a woman that can get sex for free, feminists still say that the man is exerting power over the woman because money is the power. Even if she can freely turn it down. Logic.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 23, 2014, 09:50:01 AM
Any time you want. If I may ask, when was the last time you had communion?

Never. I was never confirmed as an Anglican (that's Episcopalian to you Americans).  It was to happen when I was 13 but never did.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: springrite on July 23, 2014, 09:55:15 AM
Never. I was never confirmed as an Anglican (that's Episcopalian to you Americans).  It was to happen when I was 13 but never did.

Lucky you!
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Henk on July 23, 2014, 10:18:40 AM
Romanians have a saying for that kind of attitude: I'll pack up my toys and leave the game.  ;D

Are you by the way Romanian from descent? Just curious.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Florestan on July 23, 2014, 10:25:16 AM
Are you by the way Romanian from descent? Just curious.

I am Romanian through and through. Born, raised and happily married with child in Romania.  :)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Florestan on July 23, 2014, 10:28:33 AM
Never. I was never confirmed as an Anglican (that's Episcopalian to you Americans).

That's Schismatics, or even Heretics, to us Orthodox Christians.  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 23, 2014, 02:11:50 PM
Lucky you!
Luck had nothing to do with it!  :D
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 24, 2014, 01:23:34 AM
That's not exactly how you get statistics.

So what you are saying is that you have not collected statistics which support your thesis from conversations with actual women.  I should think you would take an interest in what actual people think about the high-flown theory.  My question stands:  How many women have you discussed this with?  Have the discussions taken place in person?

To recapitulate:  we are talking about prostitution, which is the practice of a man who, perhaps on this solitary occasion, but in many cases chronically, cannot be bothered with maintaining an actual relationship with a woman, paying a woman for the "unentangled" use of her body;  a practice which traditionally and in a great majority of cultures is considered shameful (and one wants to consider the reasons for that).  And you are posing these naive arguments for making that "doll, take your clothes off, I cannot be bothered with your mind or your feelings" activity a legal institution.

You're telling me you have no interest in what actual women think of your proposal?

Oh, I forget!  Your idea is that the woman's intelligence and thoughts are of no consequence!

Hence my remark:  This discussion is bound to make more women want to take part at GMG.

Ken, we are free to do a great deal.  Only a subset of that great deal is it wise to do.

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: EigenUser on July 24, 2014, 02:29:05 AM
Romanians have a saying for that kind of attitude: I'll pack up my toys and leave the game.  ;D
Would that game happen to be "Joc cu Bata" (Bartok)? ;D

Out of curiosity, have you ever seen the "Infinite Column" by Brancusi? I think it is in Bucharest.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Florestan on July 24, 2014, 02:45:13 AM
Would that game happen to be "Joc cu Bata" (Bartok)? ;D

 :D

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Out of curiosity, have you ever seen the "Infinite Column" by Brancusi? I think it is in Bucharest.

I've seen it twice. It is not in Bucharest but in Târgu Jiu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%A2rgu_Jiu)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: EigenUser on July 24, 2014, 04:59:53 AM
:D

I've seen it twice. It is not in Bucharest but in Târgu Jiu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%A2rgu_Jiu)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl1LPXMHP68
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Florestan on July 24, 2014, 05:03:29 AM
Nice.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 24, 2014, 05:22:24 AM
So what you are saying is that you have not collected statistics which support your thesis from conversations with actual women.  I should think you would take an interest in what actual people think about the high-flown theory.  My question stands:  How many women have you discussed this with?  Have the discussions taken place in person?

To recapitulate:  we are talking about prostitution, which is the practice of a man who, perhaps on this solitary occasion, but in many cases chronically, cannot be bothered with maintaining an actual relationship with a woman, paying a woman for the "unentangled" use of her body;  a practice which traditionally and in a great majority of cultures is considered shameful (and one wants to consider the reasons for that).  And you are posing these naive arguments for making that "doll, take your clothes off, I cannot be bothered with your mind or your feelings" activity a legal institution.

You're telling me you have no interest in what actual women think of your proposal?

Oh, I forget!  Your idea is that the woman's intelligence and thoughts are of no consequence!

Hence my remark:  This discussion is bound to make more women want to take part at GMG.

Ken, we are free to do a great deal.  Only a subset of that great deal is it wise to do.
You quoted my human trafficking remark when asking me that. How am I supposed to find people involved in human trafficking for interviews? And if I somehow were able to, that would be a pretty small sample size. Something like that you have to rely on statistics found online.


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You're telling me you have no interest in what actual women think of your proposal?
I do. Did you read Ken's article? Read the first paragraph of page 3.

I wouldn't be surprised if the same study were done for where I work and the results ended up less favorable than for these prostitutes. If they found the work shameful enough to not even be worth it, then they wouldn't do it. People are different. What may appear shameful to us may not appear the same way to them.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Gurn Blanston on July 24, 2014, 06:16:45 AM
I think we've gone about as far as we're going to go in this thread with this topic. Any further posts on this topic will be deleted. If you want to start a thread, go ahead, it can be moderated that way. This totally off-topic conversation has ruined this thread for any other purposes, for which it existed nicely for the last 4 or 5 years.

Any complaints, PM me.

GB
8)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: kishnevi on July 24, 2014, 06:33:23 AM
To help put the thread on course
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/07/queen-of-england-commonwealth-games
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: DavidW on July 24, 2014, 06:46:47 AM
I liked the video explaining the commonwealth games the best! ;D

The link that also appears in the article is: http://youtu.be/-Aj3KZa1ZCM (http://youtu.be/-Aj3KZa1ZCM)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 24, 2014, 07:00:31 AM
Important unimportant news http://reason.com/blog/2014/07/23/mom-jailed-for-letting-her-kid-play-unsu

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Brian on July 24, 2014, 08:19:13 AM
Weird Al Yankovic has the #1 album in America.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ChamberNut on July 24, 2014, 08:55:50 AM
Weird Al Yankovic has the #1 album in America.

Well, perhaps there is hope after all!  :)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on July 24, 2014, 08:59:58 AM
Let's try this again:


Lego news. (http://news.yahoo.com/legos-wash-ashore-cornwall-beach-161828729.html)


Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 24, 2014, 09:15:07 AM
Let's try this again:


Lego news. (http://news.yahoo.com/legos-wash-ashore-cornwall-beach-161828729.html)


Quote
... And her Facebook page is littered with Lego findings.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on July 24, 2014, 08:01:26 PM
;D "Lego findings".


And in other news... (https://www.yahoo.com/tech/family-removed-from-southwest-flight-after-father-92660324589.html)



Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: DavidW on July 25, 2014, 06:22:02 AM
Important unimportant news http://reason.com/blog/2014/07/23/mom-jailed-for-letting-her-kid-play-unsu

I have to say this is not the 50s anymore.  You can't just let your children roam free.  It's not safe.  The stupid article tries to argue that crime rate is way down... not in SC.  This took place in SC, where the crime rate is very high. 
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: bwv 1080 on July 25, 2014, 06:26:32 AM
I have to say this is not the 50s anymore.  You can't just let your children roam free.  It's not safe.  The stupid article tries to argue that crime rate is way down... not in SC.  This took place in SC, where the crime rate is very high.

this is not an area for the criminal justice system.  It is not a crime to be poor and a single mother
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 25, 2014, 06:55:48 AM
I have to say this is not the 50s anymore.  You can't just let your children roam free.  It's not safe.  The stupid article tries to argue that crime rate is way down... not in SC.  This took place in SC, where the crime rate is very high. 

That blogger petulantly writes "her mother wanted to let her play outside rather than sit inside a stuffy restaurant all day."

Clearly the mother has a challenge with arranging daycare for the daughter;  but neither "take your daughter to McDonald's while you work your shift there," nor leave the child unsupervised in a park, is a responsible parental decision.

I don't think that's a Palmetto State-specific matter.  There's a McDonald's on Tremont Street;  no mother working there should just leave her child roam even around the Boston Common, which is about as friendly a public park as one could wish.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 25, 2014, 06:56:47 AM
It is not a crime to be poor and a single mother

Yes, but what do you advise?  No action?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: EigenUser on July 25, 2014, 07:04:41 AM
this is not an area for the criminal justice system.  It is not a crime to be poor and a single mother

*sigh*

No, absolutely not. However, being a single mother isn't some sort of unavoidable disability, either. Excuse my conservative side for showing, but people need to be more responsible here. If you can't afford daycare, then I personally don't find it responsible to have a child in the first place.

Like DavidW said, this isn't the 50's anymore. It's really a shame that it isn't any longer safe (for whatever reasons). I read the article, though, and I did think that they were far too harsh with her. It wasn't a major case of neglect -- just poor judgement, something that falls upon all parents at times.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: bwv 1080 on July 25, 2014, 07:09:00 AM
Yes, but what do you advise?  No action?

yes, as I cannot think of realistic option that would improve her situation

BTW she is back at work
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/wp/2014/07/24/debra-harrell-back-on-her-job-at-mcdonalds-lawyer-says/
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: bwv 1080 on July 25, 2014, 07:15:38 AM
I have to say this is not the 50s anymore.  You can't just let your children roam free.  It's not safe.  The stupid article tries to argue that crime rate is way down... not in SC.  This took place in SC, where the crime rate is very high.

Outside of some particular neighborhoods things are as safe as the 50s, its neither as dangerous today as parents fed on histrionic media reports of child abductors believe nor were the 50s as safe as everyone thinks they were.  If people really wanted to keep kids safe they would ban private swimming pools (not proposing this, but they are by far the greatest risk to kids) which would save far more children than not letting them run around a park
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 25, 2014, 07:34:00 AM
this is not an area for the criminal justice system
Key point. Let's imagine we all agree that what the mother did was undesirable. (I am not saying we all do, or should, just for the sake of argument). Is jail the right approach? Putting the kid in custody away from her family?

How about the mother who was arrested for leaving her 11 year old sitting in the car for 5 minutes while she went into a store? Aside from the transparent unhelpfulness here, it is very arbitrary. Why is a passing cop a better judge than a parent of how responsible her 11 year old is?

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: bwv 1080 on July 25, 2014, 07:55:23 AM
American Shale Boom Imperils 30 Million European Jobs
The shale revolution has been a uniquely American phenomenon, and that’s provided the U.S. with a new competitive advantage: cheap gas. Thanks to fracking, America is suddenly flush with natural gas, as well as a burgeoning supply of natural gas liquids (an important chemical feedstock and natural gas drilling byproduct). That’s attracting the interest of petrochemical companies around the world, and especially in Europe, where green opposition to fracking has prevented industry from reaping similar benefits. The chief economist of the International Energy Agency warned that this development is putting tens of millions of European jobs at risk, Bloomberg reports:

Manufacturers of petrochemicals, aluminum, fertilizers and plastics are leaving Europe to take advantage of booming U.S. production of natural gas from shale rock formations, Fatih Birol, chief economist for the International Energy Agency, a Paris-based adviser to 29 nations, said at a conference in London today.

“Many petrochemicals companies in central Europe are moving out,” Birol said. “Thirty million jobs are in danger.”

Europe’s loss is America’s gain. The continent’s policymakers might want to take a closer look at fracking; it would not only support industry, but it would also help reduce dependence on imports of Russian natural gas.

Published on July 18, 2014 11:47 am
http://www.the-american-interest.com/blog/2014/07/18/american-shale-boom-imperils-30-million-european-jobs/
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 25, 2014, 07:57:26 AM
American Shale Boom Imperils 30 Million European Jobs
The shale revolution has been a uniquely American phenomenon, and that’s provided the U.S. with a new competitive advantage: cheap gas. Thanks to fracking, America is suddenly flush with natural gas, as well as a burgeoning supply of natural gas liquids (an important chemical feedstock and natural gas drilling byproduct). That’s attracting the interest of petrochemical companies around the world, and especially in Europe, where green opposition to fracking has prevented industry from reaping similar benefits. The chief economist of the International Energy Agency warned that this development is putting tens of millions of European jobs at risk, Bloomberg reports:

Manufacturers of petrochemicals, aluminum, fertilizers and plastics are leaving Europe to take advantage of booming U.S. production of natural gas from shale rock formations, Fatih Birol, chief economist for the International Energy Agency, a Paris-based adviser to 29 nations, said at a conference in London today.

“Many petrochemicals companies in central Europe are moving out,” Birol said. “Thirty million jobs are in danger.”

Europe’s loss is America’s gain. The continent’s policymakers might want to take a closer look at fracking; it would not only support industry, but it would also help reduce dependence on imports of Russian natural gas.

Published on July 18, 2014 11:47 am
http://www.the-american-interest.com/blog/2014/07/18/american-shale-boom-imperils-30-million-european-jobs/
Part of a general economic rule: the prejudice of others confers competitive advantage.
Title: Re: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 25, 2014, 08:02:19 AM
Outside of some particular neighborhoods things are as safe as the 50s, its neither as dangerous today as parents fed on histrionic media reports of child abductors believe nor were the 50s as safe as everyone thinks they were.  If people really wanted to keep kids safe they would ban private swimming pools (not proposing this, but they are by far the greatest risk to kids) which would save far more children than not letting them run around a park

I suppose that, as abduction is not the only possible danger, we disagree that leaving a child unsupervised in a park is "reasonably safe."

I'm glad she's back to work.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 25, 2014, 08:22:19 AM
Another new topic. Multiple choice quiz. Here is the situation.
Say you are getting a divorce. A judge has to decide child custody. The judge is having an affair with your wife during the whole time. You find out and complain. Does the court system

a) chastise the judge and order a new hearing
b) allow an appeal
c) respond with "where is YOUR law degree sucker, you're not part of the guild, get out of my face you civvie street loser!"

http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/6th_circuit_says_man_cant_sue_judge_who_had_affair_with_his_wife_during_chi

Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: kishnevi on July 25, 2014, 12:42:16 PM
Another new topic. Multiple choice quiz. Here is the situation.
Say you are getting a divorce. A judge has to decide child custody. The judge is having an affair with your wife during the whole time. You find out and complain. Does the court system

a) chastise the judge and order a new hearing
b) allow an appeal
c) respond with "where is YOUR law degree sucker, you're not part of the guild, get out of my face you civvie street loser!"

http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/6th_circuit_says_man_cant_sue_judge_who_had_affair_with_his_wife_during_chi

Actually a very correct decision.   The appropriate course is entirely a state matter.  Federal courts do not remove state judges from the bench and do not decide child custody matters.  A state retrial and state discipline of the judge is all that is required here.

And my mother let me go wherever I wanted on my own, once she was sure I could cross the street on my own.  Which stage I reached at about the age of 9.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 25, 2014, 01:04:24 PM
Actually a very correct decision.   The appropriate course is entirely a state matter.  Federal courts do not remove state judges from the bench and do not decide child custody matters.  A state retrial and state discipline of the judge is all that is required here.

And my mother let me go wherever I wanted on my own, once she was sure I could cross the street on my own.  Which stage I reached at about the age of 9.
This was not as far as I can see was not decided on federalism grounds. Whether federal courts cannot cannot remove the state judge is irrelevant question at hand. It's absurd to argue that there was no denial of due process here, since due process involves an impartial disinterested judge. Instead what we have is the court, comprised of lawyers, that judges, lawyers, even when deliberately vitiating the due process rights of complainants or defendants have immunity regardless.

My cohort from school pretty was much free range by the age of nine or 10. Number of fatalities rapes or serious accidents: zero. Although a few of my friends did grow up to be lawyers, so there's that.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: kishnevi on July 25, 2014, 03:15:52 PM
This was not as far as I can see was not decided on federalism grounds. Whether federal courts cannot cannot remove the state judge is irrelevant question at hand. It's absurd to argue that there was no denial of due process here, since due process involves an impartial disinterested judge. Instead what we have is the court, comprised of lawyers, that judges, lawyers, even when deliberately vitiating the due process rights of complainants or defendants have immunity regardless.

My cohort from school pretty was much free range by the age of nine or 10. Number of fatalities rapes or serious accidents: zero. Although a few of my friends did grow up to be lawyers, so there's that.
My underlying point is that his due process rights were not violated.  The appropriate remedies lie with the state court and are easily available:  remove the judge and retry the disputed issues.  This is not a case of lawyers protecting their own.  This is a case of judges refusing to allow a plaintiff to abuse the system.
BTW (full disclosure) I have not practiced law for a number of years but I am a lawyer and member of the Florida Bar.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 25, 2014, 05:10:34 PM
My underlying point is that his due process rights were not violated.  The appropriate remedies lie with the state court and are easily available:  remove the judge and retry the disputed issues.  This is not a case of lawyers protecting their own.  This is a case of judges refusing to allow a plaintiff to abuse the system.
BTW (full disclosure) I have not practiced law for a number of years but I am a lawyer and member of the Florida Bar.
Question. Had this been a juror in a civil suit against his ex-wife, would the court have refused to even allow the case to be heard? Had he been an arbiter in a private arbitration firm the couple had agreed to use, would the court have refused to allow the case to even be heard?
These are rhetorical questions.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: kishnevi on July 25, 2014, 06:44:17 PM
Question. Had this been a juror in a civil suit against his ex-wife, would the court have refused to even allow the case to be heard? Had he been an arbiter in a private arbitration firm the couple had agreed to use, would the court have refused to allow the case to even be heard?
These are rhetorical questions.
To answer them nonrhetorically,  the answer would be yes, and for exactly the same reasons as applied to the judge. 
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 25, 2014, 06:58:52 PM
To answer them nonrhetorically,  the answer would be yes, and for exactly the same reasons as applied to the judge.
The judgement was based on judicial immunity. Non-judges enjoy that?

An arbiter can be sued for conflict of interest or fraud, no? In my hypothetical we have at least one of those, probably both. People get sued for those all the time, no?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: kishnevi on July 25, 2014, 07:14:06 PM
The judgement was based on judicial immunity. Non-judges enjoy that?

An arbiter can be sued for conflict of interest or fraud, no? In my hypothetical we have at least one of those, probably both. People get sued for those all the time, no?
People get sued all the time,  but that does not mean that a suit is appropriate.   In your hypo the correct procedure would be to sue to set aside the initial decision, not sue for damages.
Judicial immunity is fundamental to how the courts operate, whether you like it or not.  Without it, judges would be open to suits by digruntled litigants for any reason.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: jochanaan on July 27, 2014, 08:07:31 PM
American Shale Boom Imperils 30 Million European Jobs...
And that's not all it imperils!  That stuff is much, much dirtier than regular crude oil, and has already caused an environmental disaster in northern Alberta province, Canada. :P
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: bwv 1080 on July 28, 2014, 04:34:41 AM
And that's not all it imperils!  That stuff is much, much dirtier than regular crude oil, and has already caused an environmental disaster in northern Alberta province, Canada. :P

no, you are thinking of oil sands which are mined.  This is referring to shale formations that are miles underground and extracted through hydraulic fracturing (fracking)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Jo498 on July 28, 2014, 05:56:45 AM
Wasn't there news a few weeks ago that for one of the major prospective shale fields (in California?) the viable yields had been overestimated by a factor of 20?

There is only one way out of the energy crisis: use less (FAR less, the US uses five times the world average, Europe about three times) and get renewable (sun, wind etc.) going ASAP.
Europe is doing slightly better, but no way good enough; there could VERY dire times only a decade or two ahead.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 28, 2014, 06:16:29 AM
there could VERY dire times only a decade or two ahead.
We are living in the dire future of a decade or two ago.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 28, 2014, 06:20:36 AM
there could VERY dire times only a decade or two ahead.



If this alarmist timeline were accurate, then there's no hope at all, since it will take more than one or two decades to scale up renewables to levels sufficient to replace oil and coal.  (This assumes that evil nuclear has no place in the energy generation mix of the more enlightened future.)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: bwv 1080 on July 28, 2014, 06:31:19 AM
Wasn't there news a few weeks ago that for one of the major prospective shale fields (in California?) the viable yields had been overestimated by a factor of 20?

There is only one way out of the energy crisis: use less (FAR less, the US uses five times the world average, Europe about three times) and get renewable (sun, wind etc.) going ASAP.
Europe is doing slightly better, but no way good enough; there could VERY dire times only a decade or two ahead.


No, f- that, we have  about a 100 year supply of natural gas that right now is far more economical than renewables

The major shales in production right now - Bakken, Eagleford, Marcellus, Permian - have been continually exceeding expectations
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 28, 2014, 06:40:27 AM
No, f- that, we have  about a 100 year supply of natural gas that right now is far more economical than renewables


And if ever natural gas hydrates become economically viable, then the supply is much larger than that.  Already, at least one green has said developing this source would be "game over" for the climate.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 28, 2014, 06:43:10 AM
Justice is done! (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/28/us-russia-yukos-idUSKBN0FW0TP20140728#comments)

(Anyone think the money will be forthcoming?  Or that the size of the award might in some way be tied to events that have transpired since last year?)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: bwv 1080 on July 28, 2014, 06:51:07 AM
Justice is done! (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/28/us-russia-yukos-idUSKBN0FW0TP20140728#comments)

(Anyone think the money will be forthcoming?  Or that the size of the award might in some way be tied to events that have transpired since last year?)

There are assets outside of Russia that can be taken
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: kishnevi on July 28, 2014, 06:59:28 AM
I am reminded of what Andrew Jackson (I think) said in response to a decision by SCOTUS.  "Mr. Marshall has his decision.  Now let him enforce it."
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 28, 2014, 08:41:20 AM
Once a Third Party, Unofficial Market Basket Web Master Sides With Employees (http://www.boston.com/business/news/2014/07/28/once-third-party-unofficial-market-basket-web-master-sides-with-employees/BK609MnoaSOW2yEI2mhfVJ/story.html?p1=Topofpage:Carousel_sub_headline)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 28, 2014, 08:43:53 AM
I am reminded of what Andrew Jackson (I think) said in response to a decision by SCOTUS.  "Mr. Marshall has his decision.  Now let him enforce it."
Jackson and too damn many presidents since.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: jochanaan on July 28, 2014, 01:48:16 PM
no, you are thinking of oil sands which are mined.  This is referring to shale formations that are miles underground and extracted through hydraulic fracturing (fracking)
Correction noted.  But there are indications that fracking isn't nearly as safe as the oil companies would like us to think.  Earthquakes and contamination of air and ground water have been linked to fracking.  Despite the oil companies' denial, I tend to think the evidence points to great danger.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: bwv 1080 on July 29, 2014, 06:33:42 PM
Warning: it is illegal to read or share this in Australia:

https://wikileaks.org/aus-suppression-order/
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Todd on July 30, 2014, 04:54:25 AM
A touch of class. (http://www.npr.org/2014/07/30/336322608/new-york-skyscrapers-separate-poor-door-sparks-outrage)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: jochanaan on July 30, 2014, 04:45:13 PM
Warning: it is illegal to read or share this in Australia:

https://wikileaks.org/aus-suppression-order/
So the companies rule there too.  I had fond hopes that Australia was still free...
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 30, 2014, 05:13:16 PM
So the companies rule there too.  I had fond hopes that Australia was still free...
"The companies"? Looks like a raging case of confirmation bias. This seems more like a coverup for government officials. Why does that implicate all of "the companies" in Australia?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 30, 2014, 05:50:13 PM
Companies, government... what's the difference nowadays?
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: bwv 1080 on July 30, 2014, 05:54:39 PM
Companies, government... what's the difference nowadays?

government has more guns and prisons
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 31, 2014, 03:23:56 AM
Companies, government... what's the difference nowadays?

Companies are run more efficiently.
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: Ken B on July 31, 2014, 05:30:49 AM
The homophone menace

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/07/31/the-homophone-menace/ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/07/31/the-homophone-menace/)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 31, 2014, 06:00:19 AM
government has more guns and prisons

Companies are run more efficiently.
lol, true.  8)
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: North Star on July 31, 2014, 03:39:04 PM
Companies are run more efficiently.
And it might be harder for a country to fire people..
Title: Re: The unimportant news thread
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 31, 2014, 03:48:23 PM