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Composer Discussion / Re: Dvorak's Den
« Last post by mc ukrneal on Today at 08:25:27 PM »
Have just read that between the premiere in 1874 and a subsequent performance in the 1880s, Dvorak did make a number of changes. Maybe Macal is performing the "original" version? Anybody have liner notes for this?

EDIT: Whoa! More departures from the original, at 9:55 in the slow movement...
According to wiki:
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The composition was revised by Dvořák in 1887–1889, though not printed until 1912 (after the composer's death) by N. Simrock in Berlin.
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     Paul Ryan's Obamacare Alternative Is Here, and It Doesn't Even Pretend to Care About Poor People

At last, the Republican Party's long-promised sparkling alternative to the Affordable Care Act has arrived, and preliminary reports suggest that new proposal improves significantly upon existing law, providing cheaper, more affordable care to millions of Americans across the board and ensuring that... who are we kidding? It's a disingenuous, regressive, and cruel proposal that will make it even more difficult and more expensive to be poor in America.

     But come on....who would expect anything else?
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Composer Discussion / Re: Dvorak's Den
« Last post by SymphonicAddict on Today at 07:58:53 PM »
Here is another great fan of this impressive composer!! He is one of my 10 favorite composers of all time. I love his charming symphonies, especially 5 to 9: his orchestration, his melodies, those are simply perfects, I never tire of listening to them. The tone poems and overtures are superb, are just amazing! He has nothing to envy to other geniuses of the same genre. His best concertante work is the Cello concerto op. 104, the soul of cello expressing a lot of feelings. On the other hand, about his chamber works well... how much excellent stuff is there: string quartets, piano quintets, piano quartets, string quintets, string sextet, piano trios, Bagatelles op. 47, etc. My favorite chamber work is the Piano quintet, op. 81: this is absolutely masterly, I think is the best piano quintet ever (highlighting the 2nd movement)
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Now:



Listening to Symphony No. 4, "Symphonie Concertante". This is Brian's favorite performance of the work --- it's difficult not to nod my head in agreement with him. Everything is passionately rendered.
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The Diner / Re: Non-Classical Music Listening Thread!
« Last post by Thatfabulousalien on Today at 07:16:32 PM »
Still remains an absolute favorite from Yes:  ;D


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General Classical Music Discussion / Re: What are you listening to now?
« Last post by Todd on Today at 07:04:47 PM »
If you're looking for an approach which isn't of the man-handling variety Anievas might be a good bet, that is, if you haven't heard it already.


I have not.  I'll add it to the wishlist.  Anievas is one of those pianists I hope will get a budget box of his own. 


Thread duty, from the Monteux big box:

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Composer Discussion / Re: Xenakis's Xen
« Last post by Thatfabulousalien on Today at 06:50:13 PM »
When I first saw that I thought you'd completely lost it, because neither beautiful nor transcendent were ideas I'd associate with Ergma. However I've begun to listen to the Danel Quartet playing it rather than Jack, and slowly I'm starting to see where you're coming from, even though I think you're overstating it. Thanks for posting this.

Absolutely honest and I'm not overstating it. But I also don't think enough recordings of those two works are graceful enough in their articulations and dynamics. As an analogy, they should be treating them more like Feldman...than Bartok fff dynamic allegros  :laugh:
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General Classical Music Discussion / Re: What are you listening to now?
« Last post by SimonNZ on Today at 06:42:51 PM »


Lutoslawski's Livre Pour Orchestre - Gunther Herbig, cond.
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General Classical Music Discussion / Re: What are you listening to now?
« Last post by HIPster on Today at 06:38:55 PM »
The Renaissance of Venetian Baroque
Accademia Vivaldiana

CD 4



Have not played this set in quite a while.

I like the group's lean, rough and tumble approach.  :)
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Composer Discussion / Re: Karol Szymanowski (1882-1937)
« Last post by Mirror Image on Today at 06:38:39 PM »
Litania do Najświętszej Marii Panny (Litany to the Virgin Mary)



Anna Iwaszkiewiczowa, to whom the poet Jerzy Liebert dedicated his poem Litania do Najświętszej Marii Panny [Litany to the Holy Virgin Mary], suggested the text to Szymanowski. With unerring intuition, out of the poem’s seventeen stanzas the composer selected the third and the sixth, which concentrate the purest poetry and whose poetic images are the simplest. The first fragment is entitled Twelve-note zither…; the second – Like a dwarf bush… The litany is short, but the score, which numbers more than ten pages, bears all the characteristic and typical features of Szymanowski’s style and technique. It is characterised by maximally condensed expression, concentration and inner silence. This effect is achieved by a far-advanced reduction of devices. Undoubtedly in its deepest expression this work is akin to Stabat Mater; however, what is particularly interesting is that Szymanowski seems to refer here to his experiences from the so-called impressionistic period of his development. The timbral concept of the work provides evidence of this, being based on texture, orchestration and dynamics made cohesive in an individual way. The fully mechanical “backbone” of the form is of course the text – the stanza is repeated three, or nearly three, times. But in the first fragment the decisive formative factor is the dynamics. The music here is extremely muted, with a delicate and pastel sonorities from the initial ppp to the culminative f and again to ppp. The second fragment has a quite clear three-part repetitive structure (ABA) and is based on very homogeneous melodic material. Szymanowski paid particularly detailed attention to the solo voice part. His consultant was the unfailing performer of her brother’s songs – Stanisława Szymanowska. “It would be a good thing to go through these fragments from Litany together; this seems quite difficult – perhaps something might be changed.” The composer’s judgment about his work was not always objective and unbiased but this time, judging Litany from the perspective of time, he was right. Writing to friends, Szymanowski said: “…this may be the deepest, the most intent thing of mine;” “Litany is very successful – it stands at the level of Stabat Mater“.

[Article taken from the Szymanowski website]

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There are many works that I love, but out of all the works I've ever heard, Szymanowski's Litany to the Virgin Mary may very well be the most profound piece of music I know. The Rattle performance with Elzbieta Szmytka (soprano) is the finest performance IMHO. Of course, there are others, but none of them capture the spirituality and vividness of this Szmytka/Rattle performance. It simply leave me in complete each time I hear this work and performance. Sometimes I'll play the work over and over again until I finally have been fully satisfied.
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