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Violin concertos for beginners
« on: May 25, 2009, 05:34:18 AM »
Hello!

Recently I came across some unknown violin concertos from the 20th century, which are composed especially for violin beginners. I already knew the Perlman recording with a few beginner concertos with orchestra accompaniment:



Oskar Rieding: Violin concerto op.35 (1909)
Friedrich Seitz: Student concerto No.2 op.13 (1912)
and three other works from the time before 1900.


Additionally I know a 2 CD series called "Violin concertos for children" (now all recordings with violin and piano):




Beside the Perlman works and some older ones you can find:

Grazyna Bacewicz: Violin concertino G-major (1945)
Gustav Adolf Huber: Violin concertino F-mafor (1903)
Ferdinand Küchler: Violin concertino D-major "In style of Vivaldi"
Oskar Rieding: Violin concerto G-major op.34
Oskar Rieding: Violin concertino op.21 "in Hungarian style"
Oskar Rieding: Violin concerto D-major op.25


And now I discovered the existance of the following works:
Anatoli Komarovsky: Violinkonzert Nr.1 (1947)
Anatoli Komarovsky: Violinkonzert Nr.2 (1950)
Natalija Baklanova: Violin concertino


Now my question is: Do you know any other violin concerto or concertino composed in the 20th century especially for violin beginners? And if you know any, do you also know of recordings of these pieces?
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Re: Violin concertos for beginners
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2009, 02:18:39 PM »
Do you know the Jardanyi Concertino? I think it's aimed at beginners.
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Re: Violin concertos for beginners
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2009, 04:14:36 AM »
Thanks a lot for the answer!

Yes, I already know the Jardanyi concertino, but don't know if it is especially for beginners.

But isn't here any violin beginner or violin teacher who knows something about the first violin concertos for the beginners? Especially those written in the 20th century? There must be dozens!
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Re: Violin concertos for beginners
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2009, 02:26:26 PM »
Thanks a lot for the answer!

Yes, I already know the Jardanyi concertino, but don't know if it is especially for beginners.

But isn't here any violin beginner or violin teacher who knows something about the first violin concertos for the beginners? Especially those written in the 20th century? There must be dozens!

I wouldn't be so sure. Beginner pieces for string instruments tend not to include orchestral accompaniment for the simple reason that no one wants to hear a beginner scratching away in front of an orchestra!
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Re: Violin concertos for beginners
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2009, 12:20:30 PM »
I wouldn't be so sure. Beginner pieces for string instruments tend not to include orchestral accompaniment for the simple reason that no one wants to hear a beginner scratching away in front of an orchestra!


Good point. But I think there are a lot of "concertos" for the violin beginner which include just the piano accompaniment or they are usually played in the piano reduction. That would be fine for me as well. And in that case (concerto for violin and piano) I think there are a lot of works to discover!
So what I need is composer names and work titles. Then the real research can begin: Where to get recordings of works for beginners, which are normally not recorded for public? youtube might be a chance, but I already checked there and just found the Komarovsky and the Baklanova there. But first I need names!  ;)

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Re: Violin concertos for beginners
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2009, 12:51:51 PM »
Hindemith's Fünf Stücke für Streichorchester, Op. 44 is not a violin concerto per se, but it does have a final movement that is basically a "mini-concerto" in itself, for solo violin riding over the ensemble the entire time.  The piece was designed to be played by younger players, and sounds much more complex than it actually is.

Not sure if it's exactly what you're looking for, but well worth considering.  The best recording I know of that is readily available is with Werner Andreas Albert and the Tasmanian Symphony Orchestra (on CPO).

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Re: Violin concertos for beginners
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2009, 11:18:54 PM »
Hindemith's Fünf Stücke für Streichorchester, Op. 44 is not a violin concerto per se, but it does have a final movement that is basically a "mini-concerto" in itself, for solo violin riding over the ensemble the entire time.  The piece was designed to be played by younger players, and sounds much more complex than it actually is.

Not sure if it's exactly what you're looking for, but well worth considering.  The best recording I know of that is readily available is with Werner Andreas Albert and the Tasmanian Symphony Orchestra (on CPO).

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Thanks for the answer, Bruce!
I checked the composition on the Schott publisher site and there it is listed for "school orchestras" but the instrumentation does not name a solo violin. So I think the first violin plays that solo in the last movement you were talking about.
And these works - orchestral instrumentation and sometimes a solo by the concertmaster - are not in my focus. I am just looking for those works with a mentioned "solo violin" in the instrumentation (or at least in the title). In case of the Hindemith piece no solo violin is mentioned. But thanks a lot your message and your time thinking about it. To be honest I am quite puzzled that nobody can drop some names here. Obviously its tougher to find such pieces than I thought...
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Re: Violin concertos for beginners
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2009, 03:00:55 AM »
There's this Wanda Wilkomirka CD (not sure if it's the sort of thing you're looking for):

Wandaw Wilkomirska for children
PNCD 931
1. Jean-Baptiste Accolay - Concerto in A Minor
2. Giovanni Battista Martini - Gavotte
3. Tchaikovsky - Old French Songs op. 39 no. 16
4. Georg Friedrich Händel - Bourrée
5. Charles Dancla - Mazurka in A Minor
6. Henryk Wieniawski Polish Song op. 12 no. 2
7. Giovanni Battista Viotti - Concerto no. XXIII in G Major

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Re: Violin concertos for beginners
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2009, 04:43:02 AM »
Yes, the mentioned concertos on the CD are of the kind I am looking for, BUT all the works are not from the 20th century! I focus on that period of time. Thanks anyway for keeping your eyes open!

Best,
Tobias
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Re: Violin concertos for beginners
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2012, 06:26:30 PM »
Thanks a lot for the answer!

Yes, I already know the Jardanyi concertino, but don't know if it is especially for beginners.

But isn't here any violin music lessons beginner or violin teacher who knows something about the first violin concertos for the beginners? Especially those written in the 20th century? There must be dozens!
As far as I know, Jardanyi concertino is aimed for violin beginners. I see kids playing it but not really sure though.
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Re: Violin concertos for beginners
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2012, 07:33:01 PM »
I have this CD which might have something of interest to you.



http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=198302
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