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Re: Recordings That You Are Considering
« Reply #8900 on: September 04, 2012, 10:28:05 PM »
Not sure how the songs are treated in the Sony box,  but there are four CDs of melodiesin the DG box.  And there's no attempt to squash music into as few CDs as possible; in fact, the fault is the other way.  Preludes Book I, Preludes Book 11, and the Etudes each get one CD each; the CD containing Images and Children's Corner is well under an hour as well; the song CDs range from approximately 53 to 63 minutes, and only one goes over 60 minutes.  To add to the luxuriousness, there's a final CD of miscellaneous historical recordings.  I'm well satisfied with the DG set, but I can't compare it to the Sony set.
The Sony box was released before the DG set, but when I saw it had only a selection of the songs I decided to disregard it. It's pretty easy to aquire comprehensive collections of his orchestral, piano and chamber works at very fine prices (and most collectors will have most of it anyway), but his glorious and essential songs are another matter. In fact; I feel a big Debussy box with only a smattering of songs to be pretty pointless. 

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« Reply #8901 on: September 05, 2012, 09:47:35 AM »
Someone who hasn't enough self-respect to educate himself before forming opinions is not someone who takes himself seriously. Happily, he has plenty of company...and it's a damned sight better than taking himself too seriously!  ;) 8)

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« Reply #8902 on: September 05, 2012, 10:17:25 AM »
Hey, anyone got any recordings they're considering?

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« Reply #8903 on: September 05, 2012, 11:02:50 AM »
Hey, anyone got any recordings they're considering?

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Freischuetz with Bruno Weil

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Debussy Preludes with Alexei Lubimov

Shostakovich Cello Concertos with Mork




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« Reply #8904 on: September 05, 2012, 11:34:23 AM »
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Shostakovich Cello Concertos with Mork

Got Mork's disc of Britten's cello suites a few months ago, has bested Rost. and Hugh as my top. May have to check out his DSCH.

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« Reply #8905 on: September 05, 2012, 11:51:59 AM »
I'm not buying anything for a while, but what do people think of this Brilliant 3-CD Shosty's concertos?

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« Reply #8906 on: September 05, 2012, 06:24:53 PM »
The same question crossed my mind...

This might actually be the first time ever that I'm seriously considering one on those "composer box sets"! :o  8)

Any further comments on the issue are welcome. :)

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Q into a Debussy box?                  :o

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« Reply #8907 on: September 05, 2012, 11:49:02 PM »
I'm not buying anything for a while, but what do people think of this Brilliant 3-CD Shosty's concertos?


Thats a good set and the performances are all very good - In preference I now own the below trio set becuase the recordings are all in stereo :):



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« Reply #8908 on: September 06, 2012, 12:37:07 AM »
...but not damned yet.

Well, I only bought 4 and 6 and where is the FIRE and ANGUISH!
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« Reply #8909 on: September 06, 2012, 08:35:16 AM »


Liking what I've heard so far but am not sure there's enough grit to sustain my interest over the long haul. (Could he be the Anti-Shosty, who tends toward too much grit to sustain my interest over the long haul? ;) )
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« Reply #8910 on: September 06, 2012, 08:51:44 AM »
I'm not buying anything for a while, but what do people think of this Brilliant 3-CD Shosty's concertos?



It's not a good set. Contrary to what people say about Oistrakh, I find most of the performances of his I've heard to be dreadful. For the Violin Concerto No. 1, I really like Batiashvili's performance. For the Violin Concerto No. 2, Khachatryan's performance impressed me the most. Cristina Ortiz is a fine soloist but doesn't do well in Shosty's PCs. Get the Marc-Andre Hamelin Shosty recording on Hyperion instead. As far as the cello concerti, it's still hard to beat Heinrich Schiff in these works.
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« Reply #8911 on: September 06, 2012, 09:14:44 AM »
It's not a good set. Contrary to what people say about Oistrakh, I find most of the performances of his I've heard to be dreadful.

 ??? ???



By the way my list of absolute essentials would include DSCH Jr. and Maxim SCH in the piano concertos (Chandos) and the incredible Rostropovich world premiere of the first cello concerto. Samples of Melnikov's piano concertos have me VERY excited. But I don't know about a collection or box, sorry...

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« Reply #8912 on: September 06, 2012, 02:10:25 PM »
Thats a good set and the performances are all very good - In preference I now own the below trio set becuase the recordings are all in stereo :):
It's not a good set. Contrary to what people say about Oistrakh, I find most of the performances of his I've heard to be dreadful. For the Violin Concerto No. 1, I really like Batiashvili's performance. For the Violin Concerto No. 2, Khachatryan's performance impressed me the most. Cristina Ortiz is a fine soloist but doesn't do well in Shosty's PCs. Get the Marc-Andre Hamelin Shosty recording on Hyperion instead. As far as the cello concerti, it's still hard to beat Heinrich Schiff in these works.
??? ???

By the way my list of absolute essentials would include DSCH Jr. and Maxim SCH in the piano concertos (Chandos) and the incredible Rostropovich world premiere of the first cello concerto. Samples of Melnikov's piano concertos have me VERY excited. But I don't know about a collection or box, sorry...

Thanks for helping me in making a decision  ;D
Yeah, Melnikov ought to be good - he was a student of Richter.

How's Sitkovetsky ? I shall need Prokofiev's string concertos, too, at some point.

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« Reply #8913 on: September 06, 2012, 03:00:06 PM »
Thanks for helping me in making a decision  ;D
Yeah, Melnikov ought to be good - he was a student of Richter.

How's Sitkovetsky ? I shall need Prokofiev's string concertos, too, at some point.


String concertos? Violin Concertos? For the latter, try Vengerov & Rostropovich... one of the very few instances where the latter's enthusiasm overcame his innate inabilities as a conductor.

Get the original releases with the two (very fine, but less stunning) DSCH concertos (1 & 2)... or the Elatus release that couples the Prokofiev very conviently. (Cheap from Germany)

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« Reply #8914 on: September 06, 2012, 05:52:01 PM »

How's Sitkovetsky ? I shall need Prokofiev's string concertos, too, at some point.



Sitkovetsky is a lifeless player. No passion, no heart. He tries to play everything lyrically, which just doesn't work in Shostakovich or Prokofiev. Take a pass on that set. For the Prokofiev VCs, for me, it's still hard to beat Kyung Wha Chung/Previn on Decca, which is also coupled with a great performance of Stravinsky's VC. Here's a link:

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« Reply #8915 on: September 06, 2012, 07:13:10 PM »
Has anyone heard this recording?  I just got it and really love it.


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« Reply #8916 on: September 06, 2012, 08:05:09 PM »
How's Sitkovetsky ? I shall need Prokofiev's string concertos, too, at some point.

Give that one a miss, as he's fairly bland. I don't care for Vengerov either - his tone and vibrato are a real turn-off.
I'm afraid I have no positive recommendations  :-[

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« Reply #8917 on: September 06, 2012, 09:58:07 PM »
Thanks, John, Jens, and eyeresist.

The Chung looks very nice.
How is Perlman & Rozhdestvensky?



Regarding DSCH, Khachatryan's VC's as a part of this box (and perhaps Batiashvili), Dmitri Jr. & Maxim's PC's, and Schiff's CC's are the most tempting.

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« Reply #8918 on: September 07, 2012, 04:06:00 AM »
Re. Proky's violin concertos: I like Shaham better than Sitkovetsky (what's bland is the conducting of the two Davises), but the Prokofiev disc I turn to whenever I want to hear either of his great VCs is Josefowicz's scorcher. Rasty, sweet, playful, and wry. I still don't understand why this fabulous fiddler--who also champions new music--receives far less notice than many contemporaries who can't hold a candle to her.

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« Reply #8919 on: September 07, 2012, 04:15:45 AM »
Re. Proky's violin concertos: I like Shaham better than Sitkovetsky (what's bland is the conducting of the two Davises), but the Prokofiev disc I turn to whenever I want to hear either of his great VCs is Josefowicz's scorcher. Rasty, sweet, playful, and wry. I still don't understand why this fabulous fiddler--who also champions new music--receives far less notice than many contemporaries who can't hold a candle to her.



What I've heard from Josefowicz is excellent, but that's OOP  :(
Shaham looks nice, though (but more expensive than Chung, or especially Perlman).
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