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Re: What are you listening to?
« Reply #35320 on: November 08, 2008, 01:41:45 AM »
Why?

The Vänskä/Lahti performances in general to me have seemed both idiomatic and correct as well as superbly recorded. I have seen them perform Sibelius live as well and have been greatly impressed. Obviously I need to relisten to the Violin Concerto disc, but any indications as to what to listen for will be appreciated.


Very slow tempi, all seem to be one long adagio, no variations, or almost. Mannerisms like deliberate over studied playing, intellectual statements without essence, the violin recorded without a microphone but integrated into the orchestral sound, therefore barely noticeable when the orchestra plays loud, or when K, plays as soft as he can, not that it is necessary, but just for the show off. Empty headed music making from a musician with a big ego. Sorry for this tirade but you asked for it, and I feel pretty strongly about this disaster of a recording.
And dare no one say anymore that I think all discs I buy are wonderful, I would personally steer the bulldozer to smash all existing copies.
There!
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Re: What are you listening to?
« Reply #35321 on: November 08, 2008, 01:49:19 AM »
Some Boccherini to calm myself down! :P

His Divertimenti for Flute, two Violins, Viola, two Cellos and Contrabass (ad lib)
Opus 16, No. 1,4,5,6.
Eckart Haupt, Flute.
Mi-Kyung Lee, Violin I.
Silvia Walch, Violin II.
Diemut Poppen, Viola.
Ludwig Quandt, Cello I & II.
Gotz Teursch, Cello I & II.
Esko Laine, Contrabass.
Recorded in 1992.


Music that deserves your attention, expertly played, with great gusto, and breathtaking tempi, that gives the music a drive that is very exhilarating.
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Re: What are you listening to?
« Reply #35322 on: November 08, 2008, 01:52:42 AM »
Think of your heart & bloodpressure Harry ! It's only a CD! control your breathing : in through the nose, out through the mouth ...in, out, in out.... 0:)

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Re: What are you listening to?
« Reply #35323 on: November 08, 2008, 02:16:38 AM »
MOZART:  Serenades K 375 & 388            / Ensemble Philidor            (CALLIOPE)

A very beautiful version, superior to those of Jack Brymer, Reginald Kell, Harnoncourt and even Schneider. The Philidor Ensemble uses period instruments. Their interpretation is very nuanced and has a delightful color. The lightness, the sense of the rhythm, the phrasing (listen to the sublime Adagio of the K 375) cannot be found in any other version I know of.

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Re: What are you listening to?
« Reply #35324 on: November 08, 2008, 02:22:30 AM »
That was the only cd in my life I broke in thousand pieces, out of pure anger.
I am sorry to say, but for me this, is the worse possible recording you could get from Sibelius Violin concerto.
Even now I feel anger mounting.
After15 years still. :P
Most people seem to like it, but I would gladly break it again.


It must be the second, then, Harry. I distinctly remember your destruction of another CD, immortalized in your great opus Concerto for Hand, Hammer and Harnoncourt...

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Re: What are you listening to?
« Reply #35325 on: November 08, 2008, 02:26:53 AM »
That was the only cd in my life I broke in thousand pieces, out of pure anger.
I am sorry to say, but for me this, is the worse possible recording you could get from Sibelius Violin concerto.
Even now I feel anger mounting.
After15 years still. :P
Most people seem to like it, but I would gladly break it again.



This is one of my most beloved violin concerto recordings, mainly because of the wonderful rendition of the original version of the Sibelius concerto. Kavakos plays magnificently throughout both versions, though I find the performance of the original more compelling. There are huge dynamic contrasts, but the recording is very clear and detailed.

So, my friend, we seem to disagree here. And don't you dare come near my copy!  ;D ;)

PS. I'm listening to the violin/piano reduction of both versions at the moment, as performed by Sato/Gräsbeck.

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Re: What are you listening to?
« Reply #35326 on: November 08, 2008, 02:38:15 AM »
I would personally steer the bulldozer to smash all existing copies.
There!


I have just the soundtrack for the scene: Alkan's Allegro barbaro as performed by Jack Gibbons (in this case, depicting the vehemence of a determined mind). And cut!  8)

It must be the second, then, Harry. I distinctly remember your destruction of another CD, immortalized in your great opus Concerto for Hand, Hammer and Harnoncourt...


I seem to remember that; which recording was it about?

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Re: What are you listening to?
« Reply #35327 on: November 08, 2008, 02:48:58 AM »
It must be the second, then, Harry. I distinctly remember your destruction of another CD, immortalized in your great opus Concerto for Hand, Hammer and Harnoncourt...


Thanks, that made me laugh out loud, and I just needed that. ;D
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Re: What are you listening to?
« Reply #35328 on: November 08, 2008, 02:50:11 AM »

This is one of my most beloved violin concerto recordings, mainly because of the wonderful rendition of the original version of the Sibelius concerto. Kavakos plays magnificently throughout both versions, though I find the performance of the original more compelling. There are huge dynamic contrasts, but the recording is very clear and detailed.

So, my friend, we seem to disagree here. And don't you dare come near my copy!  ;D ;)

PS. I'm listening to the violin/piano reduction of both versions at the moment, as performed by Sato/Gräsbeck.



Just lock it away, when I come to Greece, that's all! ;D
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Re: What are you listening to?
« Reply #35329 on: November 08, 2008, 03:01:20 AM »
August Kuehnel. (1645-1700)

Viola da Gamba Sonatas & Partitas, (Kassel 1701)

The Spirit of Gambo:
Freek Borstlap, Ivanka Neeleman, Gesina Liedmeier, Viola da Gamba, (continuo)
Richard Egarr, Harpsichord.
Jan van Outryve, Lute.
Karel Smagge, Organ.
Recorded in 1997.


Stop the presses, and look in you purse, get out 6 euro's and buy this fabulous Gamba disc, never a better investment my friends. Very good sound and excellent performances of this unknown composer. You would not want to miss this, I am sure!
Balm for the soul, yah! ;D
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Re: What are you listening to?
« Reply #35330 on: November 08, 2008, 03:04:18 AM »
I seem to remember that; which recording was it about?


If I remember correctly, Harry didn't care much (to put it mildly) for Harnoncourt's Mozart recordings with the Concertgebouw Orchestra... (Harry?)

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Re: What are you listening to?
« Reply #35331 on: November 08, 2008, 03:06:21 AM »
If I remember correctly, Harry didn't care much (to put it mildly) for Harnoncourt's Mozart recordings with the Concertgebouw Orchestra... (Harry?)


No, it was the Schubert symphony box, his complete symphonies, yikes!
I shudder when I remember...... :P
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Re: What are you listening to?
« Reply #35332 on: November 08, 2008, 03:14:51 AM »
No, it was the Schubert symphony box, his complete symphonies, yikes!
I shudder when I remember...... :P


Poor you... Btw, you didn't write a Concerto, but a Fantasy. I just checked. It was your opus 3. Your opus 2 is the Concerto for Cavalry, Kavakos and Vänskä.

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Re: What are you listening to?
« Reply #35333 on: November 08, 2008, 03:33:52 AM »

disc 10: concertos


disc 2: Burleske, Parergon, Panethenaenzug.
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Re: What are you listening to?
« Reply #35334 on: November 08, 2008, 03:35:21 AM »
Excellent! Let us know how you like this.


Listened to disc 1. Like it a lot, but have not fully enjoyed them yet. That requires more listening.
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Re: What are you listening to?
« Reply #35335 on: November 08, 2008, 03:38:28 AM »
Poor you... Btw, you didn't write a Concerto, but a Fantasy. I just checked. It was your opus 3. Your opus 2 is the Concerto for Cavalry, Kavakos and Vänskä.


Awhh, good you remember me of it, I thought I did destroy all my scribblings.  ;D
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Re: What are you listening to?
« Reply #35336 on: November 08, 2008, 04:19:43 AM »


D958
"(Late-)Romantic music exposes or unnatural rest or unnatural unrest" (free from Nietzsche).

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Re: What are you listening to?
« Reply #35337 on: November 08, 2008, 04:39:33 AM »
This one again.
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Re: What are you listening to?
« Reply #35338 on: November 08, 2008, 04:46:59 AM »
       

I'm not a praticular Telemann fan, but this is great and exuberant music making by the old HIP bunch from the Low Countries: the Kuijken brothers and Gustav. You can tell they had a great time here.  :)

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Re: What are you listening to?
« Reply #35339 on: November 08, 2008, 05:37:22 AM »


PS. I'm listening to the violin/piano reduction of both versions at the moment, as performed by Sato/Gräsbeck.



I heard an extract from this on radio3 the other day. I liked the bit I heard, is it good? would you recommend it? I believe it had other violin /piano works by Sibelius too .

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