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« on: March 12, 2007, 08:37:57 AM » |
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As I was at the gym the other day - forced to listen to the trash they play on the radio there, I came across a song, you know, the type that they sing about "pimping" etc. to my surprise I noticed that the rhythm was from "Noi Siamo Zingarelle" from "La Traviata". Now, why does the song about "pimping" attract people more than the one about a falling woman? Does it stimulate its listeners or is it just there to give them the illusion of modern, "cool", etc?
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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2007, 09:41:20 AM » |
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Now, why does the song about "pimping" attract people more than the one about a falling woman? Does it stimulate its listeners or is it just there to give them the illusion of modern, "cool", etc?
I don't think the words are taken seriously. The beat, the danceability is more important and the words are just for shock effect. I've attended five weddings in the last three years and the DJs invariably play some raunchy songs. My nieces and nephews are all "good kids", college educated and gainfully employed. It was a bit of a shock, the first time, to see my darling "little" nieces (one now an elementary school teacher, another an Ohio State professor, another a medical intern, another a high school teacher) dancing suggestively and singing along to My Humps, seemingly having the time of their lives. Hey, I was young once too; I get it  Sarge |
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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2007, 02:52:37 AM » |
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Don't forget that the waltz in its day was considered extremely suggestive. ("Eeeek! They're HOLDING each other!" ) And what do you think those '60s lyrics like "Come on baby, light my fire" were about?  In fact, ever since Plato music has been considered lascivious and morally degrading by some. |
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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2007, 03:06:40 AM » |
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In fact, ever since Plato music has been considered lascivious and morally degrading by some.
I'd say, rather (and with Plato as the example), ever since Plato some music has been considered lascivious and morally degrading by some. Curiously, Plato tied morality to specific modes. |
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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2007, 03:08:44 AM » |
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Correction accepted. Very few apart from the Taliban leaders consider ALL music morally unacceptable. |
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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2007, 04:12:32 AM » |
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Dancing, on the other hand . . . .
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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2007, 04:41:34 AM » |
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As I was at the gym the other day - forced to listen to the trash they play on the radio there, I came across a song, you know, the type that they sing about "pimping" etc. to my surprise I noticed that the rhythm was from "Noi Siamo Zingarelle" from "La Traviata". Now, why does the song about "pimping" attract people more than the one about a falling woman? Does it stimulate its listeners or is it just there to give them the illusion of modern, "cool", etc?
Would you happen to remember what song this was? I am always curious about popular music that appropriates classical tunes. |
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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2007, 04:44:11 AM » |
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As I was at the gym the other day - forced to listen to the trash they play on the radio there, I came across a song, you know, the type that they sing about "pimping" etc. to my surprise I noticed that the rhythm was from "Noi Siamo Zingarelle" from "La Traviata". Now, why does the song about "pimping" attract people more than the one about a falling woman? Does it stimulate its listeners or is it just there to give them the illusion of modern, "cool", etc?
Drums. |
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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2007, 07:35:07 AM » |
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Drums.
Rossini has drums, why not him? |
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« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2007, 07:36:50 AM » |
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Would you happen to remember what song this was? I am always curious about popular music that appropriates classical tunes.
I have no clue of the name nor "artist". |
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« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2007, 07:37:52 AM » |
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Rossini has drums, why not him?
A constant beat on the drums.  |
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« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2007, 07:52:09 AM » |
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A constant beat on the drums. Ah, you mean that "pam, pam, papa-pampam" (repeated) almost all of them have? |
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« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2007, 08:21:18 AM » |
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Ah, you mean that "pam, pam, papa-pampam" (repeated) almost all of them have?
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« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2007, 10:37:38 PM » |
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« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2007, 09:04:15 AM » |
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A constant beat on the drums. Then how come the radio doesn't play Reich's 'Drumming'? You want constant, kids? YOU GOT IT! |
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