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« Reply #30 on: April 30, 2005, 06:57:47 AM » |
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Goodness, I never knew such a thing as a Handel enthusiast even existed until I found this forum. I shall examine his oratorios and operas, since I find the concerti grossi and the suites to be such dull affairs.
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« Reply #31 on: May 03, 2005, 12:16:51 AM » |
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This weekend I took the plunge and picked up Pinnock's set of Handel's orchestral works.  I've only heard the first disc so far, but I like what I've heard. My only previous Handel was the Water Music (Boulez) and Messiah. I shall listen some more and report back. Anyone else have this set? |
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The man that hath no music in himself,
Nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds,
Is fit for treasons, stratagems, and spoils.
The motions of his spirit are dull as night,
And his affections dark as Erebus.
Let no such man be trusted.
-- William Shakespeare, The Merchant of Venice
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« Reply #32 on: May 04, 2005, 01:09:16 PM » |
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GF Handel remains my favorite Baroque composer. I had, in the lp days, a recording of Messiah based on the first performance, which took place on Easter in 1742, I believe. What intrigued me about this perfromance was that the timpani was not heard at all until the Hallelujah Chorus, as Handel intended. The performance was conducted by the venerable Sir Neville Marriner. It was on the Argo label, which, I believe, no longer exists.
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'And the night shall be filled with music,
and the cares that infest the day,
shall fold their tents like the Arabs
and as silently steal away.'
from 'The Day is Done'
by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
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« Reply #33 on: May 04, 2005, 01:14:25 PM » |
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How is Handel's Keyboard music ? My favored element in Bach's music is the sublime control the latter has on polyphonic counterpoint, and i was wondering if Handel ever walked the same territory. I've been wanting to explore this composers music and i wouldn't mind starting on familiar grounds  |
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« Reply #34 on: May 18, 2005, 12:18:11 PM » |
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You know how you can just fall in love with a recording and play it over and over? For me that recording is Simon Preston's recording of "Israel in Egypt". It could not be better.
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Arcturos
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« Reply #35 on: May 18, 2005, 01:01:54 PM » |
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So I've started here a Handel appreciation thread. What are your favorite works of Handel? I am fond of his concertos for organ, oboe and the concerto grosso Op 6. Yes the organ concertos are some of his best pieces. |
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DavidW
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« Reply #36 on: May 18, 2005, 02:05:08 PM » |
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I'm glad that someone else likes the organ concertos. |
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« Reply #37 on: May 18, 2005, 02:07:36 PM » |
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Cuckoo and the Nightengale baby!
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DavidW
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« Reply #38 on: May 18, 2005, 02:19:49 PM » |
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Ah yeah! |
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« Reply #39 on: May 18, 2005, 02:26:42 PM » |
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So anyone have an opinion on whether the newly-found Gloria is actually by Handel or not?
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We labour under the delusion that today's performance is the best the world has known. In a true musical sense, the performance in Mozart's time was a lot better, from what I've read. The musicians played better together and they seemed to be more concerned. --WIlliam Russo, 1962
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DavidW
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« Reply #40 on: May 18, 2005, 02:27:53 PM » |
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Oh what's this? Would you mind providing a link to an article if you have one?
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« Reply #41 on: May 18, 2005, 10:19:44 PM » |
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When I say 'newly' discovered, I mean within the last four or five years. Some links: http://www.musicweb-international.com/HandelGloria/gloria.htmlhttp://gfhandel.org/gloria.htmI have Gardiner's recording and there's at least one other widely available one. I believe the current prevading thought is that it's not by him, but I'm not up on all the reasons. Nor do I feel could form a opinion without doing more research and listening to both it and other Handel works. |
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We labour under the delusion that today's performance is the best the world has known. In a true musical sense, the performance in Mozart's time was a lot better, from what I've read. The musicians played better together and they seemed to be more concerned. --WIlliam Russo, 1962
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DavidW
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« Reply #42 on: May 19, 2005, 03:26:15 AM » |
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Thanks for the links Kevin! I'm excited now... I want to hear this work. How amazing to discover a forgotten work that instead of being mediocre and esoteric could be a big thing... a masterpiece!  |
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« Reply #43 on: May 19, 2005, 03:19:21 PM » |
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Today I subscribed to Naxos' online service. For US$19.99/month you can stream virtually any CD of theirs, and I noticed they had the world premiere of this work. If you're interested.
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We labour under the delusion that today's performance is the best the world has known. In a true musical sense, the performance in Mozart's time was a lot better, from what I've read. The musicians played better together and they seemed to be more concerned. --WIlliam Russo, 1962
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The Handelite
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« Reply #44 on: May 20, 2005, 02:03:25 AM » |
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I am glad to see that Handel is so revered on this forum! Most of the people I run into find his music dull and forgettable. Or else they recognize him as the composer of "The Messiah" and nothing else of significance. I wonder if these people have heard the other oratorios, like Solomon and Israel in Egypt. Have they heard the operas? Maybe they have and they still aren't pleased.  |
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"[Handel] is the only person I would wish to see before I die, and the only person I would wish to be, were I not Bach." - Johann Sebastian Bach
"Truly, I would say the same myself if I were permitted to put in a word" - Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
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