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« on: December 04, 2005, 04:22:00 AM » |
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Any other fans of this great Italian serialist?
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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2005, 04:33:57 AM » |
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Any other fans of this great Italian serialist?
Oh yes, at least what I've heard (which is not much)! Here's a short list: Canti di prigionia (1938) and Canti di liberazione (c. 1950) - Part of a fascinating afternoon of choral music by Leon Botstein and the ASO, also with choral music of Nono. Quaderno Musicale di Annalibera (1952) - Charming piano piece written for the composer's daughter, for her 8th birthday. Piccola musica notturna (1953-54; arr. for chamber ensemble, 1960-61) - Opened the program last spring with Levine and the Met Chamber Ensemble...an unknown gem. --Bruce |
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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2005, 05:57:44 AM » |
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I'm dying to hear his final opera Ulysse. It was supposedly the culmination of his life's work and considered his masterpiece.
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2005, 02:08:43 AM » |
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Count me in. I don't have much in my collection---only the Variations and the Prisoner, but I want to hear more. Can anyone tell us much about this composer--his life, his attitudes, influences, etc? Maybe we should have one of those one-piece discussions of a work of his.
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2005, 07:13:01 AM » |
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Count me in. I don't have much in my collection---only the Variations and the Prisoner, but I want to hear more. Can anyone tell us much about this composer--his life, his attitudes, influences, etc? Maybe we should have one of those one-piece discussions of a work of his.
This is a fine article on the basics: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luigi_DallapiccolaHis main influences it seems to me were Schoenberg, Berg and Webern, followed by Italian Renaissance composers like Gabreilli and Monteverdi. His mature style is characterized by 'Mediterranean' lyricism, subtle and hushed Debussyan orchestration that emphazies the middle register (the viola and the clarinet), a almost Renaissance love of canons (they are EVERYWHERE in his work) although within a serial/modal harmonic language. His 'attitudes' were always very political, and he was a devoted liberal/libertarian/anti-fascist after his jewish wife was persecuted in Mussolini's 'Race Laws'. The love of freedom/liberty is a important part of so many of his works. Also he combined a very cultured love of great music, poetry and literature (especially Homer, Dante, Proust and Joyce-strangely enough-MY FAVORITE WRITERS!) with a mystical Catholicsm. I have a album of his orchestral works and they are fine, but it is his vocal works/operas that are his best. Again, I have not heard 'Ulisse', and I have read it is incredibly tiring and 'poorly paced' as it is all at a slow tempo and quiet, but an opera on 'Ulysses' that is in a mirror-like structure (like 'Lulu') and is influenced by Joyce, Berg and Monteverdi HAS to be ringer for ME. |
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2005, 08:42:22 AM » |
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Big fan of Luigi here.
Call him a melodist, not a serialist.
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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2005, 08:53:43 AM » |
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Big fan of Luigi here.
Call him a melodist, not a serialist.
Agreed. |
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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2005, 06:33:14 PM » |
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I saw the opera "The Prisoner" and it is a masterpiece. Threre is a very good recording, conducted by Dorati.
Regarding "Ulisse" I have the record but I listened to it only once. I didn't like it very much, but I need to hear it more times until I can reach a conclusion.
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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2005, 12:57:21 AM » |
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I have a recording of his excellent "Canti di prigonia." Had the privilege of seeing an outstanding porduction of "Il Prigoniero" and "Volo di Notte" at the Frankfurt Opera two seasons ago. Great stuff. Does anyone know if there is a good recording of "Volo di Notte" somewhere to be had?
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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2005, 01:14:57 AM » |
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Mensch - I do not know of any commercial recording of Volo di Notte. Thanks to R3's Dallapiccola's Triple in November 2004 I was able to record an excellent performance of Volo as well as the seldom heard Job and the popular Il Prigoniero. If you are a member of SoulSeek and contact me (wfpier) I will be glad to share.
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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2005, 01:34:02 AM » |
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In addition to the works mentioned above, I have a CD of work by Dallapiccola that certainly has one of the more interesting titles in music: "Three Questions with Two Answers". You guessed it, I bought it blind just for the title. It is not a masterpiece, but quite enjoyable nonetheless.
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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2005, 02:57:25 AM » |
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I saw the opera "The Prisoner" and it is a masterpiece. Threre is a very good recording, conducted by Dorati. That's the one I have. I bought it years ago on a London LP. It is next on my list to listen to once again. |
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« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2005, 05:52:21 AM » |
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There is also a great recording by Salonen that comes with 'Canti di Liberazione' if you can find it. I know it's OOP but you might be able to find it used on Amazon.
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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2005, 05:54:04 AM » |
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Mensch - I do not know of any commercial recording of Volo di Notte. Thanks to R3's Dallapiccola's Triple in November 2004 I was able to record an excellent performance of Volo as well as the seldom heard Job and the popular Il Prigoniero. If you are a member of SoulSeek and contact me (wfpier) I will be glad to share.
Sign me up f or that on soulseek! It's a work I've always wanted to hear. I'm 'garthhudson' I believe on soulseek.... |
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« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2005, 06:37:50 AM » |
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Garth - send me a message...
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