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« Reply #60 on: March 15, 2007, 06:57:56 AM »

Maybe it is a new policy since you last came up, Joe -- if you buy a ticket to another performance of a premiere, the second is at half price.

Don't put me on, Karl.
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« Reply #61 on: March 15, 2007, 07:05:19 AM »

Don't put me on, Karl.

Well, they really did that in the '05-'06 season.  I just spoke to someone, and that is not the case this year.
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« Reply #62 on: March 15, 2007, 07:08:08 AM »

Excellent. Except I live over the other side of the pond. Hopefully it'll come here at some point... apparently there was a pirate recording of the Cello Concerto floating about for years with Yo-Yo Ma, before the premiere official recording (brilliantly played by Sherry). I'd still like to hear the Ma version...

Which segment of the second figment are you referring to specifically Joe? I think on the whole I prefer the first figment - seems more satisfying somehow...
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« Reply #63 on: March 15, 2007, 07:18:42 AM »

I'm always surprised at the sheer brilliance of Symphonia: sum fluxae pretium spei. Love that piece!
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« Reply #64 on: March 15, 2007, 07:25:40 AM »

I'm always surprised at the sheer brilliance of Symphonia: sum fluxae pretium spei. Love that piece!

That's one I don't know at all.  Feel free to go on about why you like it, if you want!  Cheesy

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« Reply #65 on: March 15, 2007, 07:51:16 AM »

Excellent. Except I live over the other side of the pond. Hopefully it'll come here at some point...

Oh, without a doubt. In general, I think, Carter's music is more performed more widely over there than it is here, and I'm sure Levine will eventually travel with the piece. Meantime, there are a lot European performances of Mr. Carter's other music scheduled for next year. Check www.boosey.com, go to the Carter page and click on performances.

Then again, you could plan a trip to Boston.  Wink

The Philadelphia Orchestra will mark Leonard Bernstein's 90th birthday next season with all three of his symphonies, plus selections from On the Town and West Side Story. Naturally, not a peep about Carter.

The part of Figment No. 1 that's been sticking in my head is the hymnlike section about a third of the way through. You can't miss it. It's the part where the cello suddenly slows down and becomes very contemplative.
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« Reply #66 on: March 15, 2007, 07:55:03 AM »

Well for a start its sonically gorgeous - the slow movement especially has some of the most frankly beautiful writing by him that I have heard. In a way the piece seems like a summing up of his late style. Every detail seem to be perfectly in its place, every shimmering mood so expertly thought out. Its huge, especially by Carter's standards: movement timings 16:25, 17:30, 11:38, but needless to say it hangs together very well.

http://www.amazon.com/Elliott-Carter-Symphonia-Clarinet-Concerto/dp/B00000JSAJ/ref=sr_1_2/104-9064644-8866306?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1173909082&sr=8-2

Many good views there.

I'm sure Joe feels the same way about its quality and will be able to speak more eloquently about it.
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« Reply #67 on: March 15, 2007, 07:56:52 AM »

Which figment do you mean, 1 or 2?
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« Reply #68 on: March 15, 2007, 07:57:16 AM »

I'm sure Joe feels the same way about its quality and will be able to speak more eloquently about it.

Truth is, Guido, I'm still coming to terms with the piece. I'd like to read more about it from you.
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« Reply #69 on: March 15, 2007, 08:01:41 AM »

Which figment do you mean, 1 or 2?

No. 2, Remembering Mr. Ives. (See my avatar.) The section is marked "hymlike" in the score, and recalls Ives's more religious side. In "Labyrinth's of Time," there's a scene in which Sherry and Mr. Carter are going rehearsing the piece, and we see Mr. Carter decide to add the direction in English, rather than his customary Italian, because, he says, the word is closer to Ives's spirit.
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« Reply #70 on: April 03, 2007, 07:54:26 AM »

Update: Soloist in the new concerto will be for the BSO's principal horn James Sommerville
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« Reply #71 on: April 03, 2007, 09:42:25 PM »

Update: Soloist in the new concerto will be for the BSO's principal horn James Sommerville

He is no slouch, you know.
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« Reply #72 on: April 04, 2007, 03:10:06 AM »

He is no slouch, you know.
Did I say he was? Did I even imply he was? I figured anyone who can make it to the first chair of the BSO is no slouch.  Wink
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« Reply #73 on: April 04, 2007, 03:35:20 AM »

Did I say he was? Did I even imply he was?

No, and no, of course.
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