Is this profoundly moving, or what?

[greg]

Listen to this from 0:00 - 5:20
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/P24ZWhH-o6Q

while watching this video from 2:40- 8:00
this has to be done at the SAME EXACT TIME, please.... the ending lines up perfectly when done so.


http://www.kumby.com/welcome-to-the-nhk-episode-24/




NOTES:

It sounds good when you leave the volume up for the show, because it's mainly just dialogue. However, you might need to adjust it to your liking.

[greg]

Wow...... this is just as good. But ignore this and try the first suggestion.

The second she falls off the cliff, have it connect with 7:04 of this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/frgIBpWd_TI&feature=related

it's the big chord at the end of Mahler's 2nd. The only thing better than listening to this music is thinking of something that enhances the experience.... and this works as well as anything! 

[Renfield]

I admit I didn't do the soundtrack experiment with the videos, mainly because I've only read "Welcome to the NHK" in its manga iteration, and didn't want spoilers for how the anime version wraps up.


On a relevant note, however, The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya actually ends with the "Accende lumen sensibus" segment from the Hymnus of Mahler's 8th, to staggering effect!

Especially if one knows the text, the semantic interweaving of Mahler's (specific) outburst with the equivalent outburst at the peak of the crescendo that this entire anime embodies is "profoundly moving" indeed.

(Shostakovich's 7th and Tchaikovsky's 4th also feature. Do watch the series if you haven't: it's one of the real jewels of the contemporary anime catalogue - albeit easy to unjustifiably shrug off as puerile, alas.)


In fact, I had a significant change of mind on the Hymnus' underlying "sense" after seeing it used as (director) Ishihara Tatsuya used it, certainly far from the "big flashy choral piece for the finale" commercial staple.


I'd add a snide comment on "anime being for kids" here, but I hope I've indirectly also made that point.

[greg]

hehe i hope no kids are watching this show....



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Melancholy_of_Haruhi_Suzumiya

Several songs and musical pieces were included in the anime. Among the insert songs used were "God knows..." and "Lost my music" performed by Aya Hirano in episode twelve.[19] Segments of Symphony No. 4 in F Minor[20] originally composed by Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky, Symphony No. 7 in C Major, "Leningrad"[21] originally composed by Dmitri Shostakovich, and Daphnis et Chloé[22] originally composed by Maurice Ravel, were used in episode eleven, while Symphony No. 8 in Eb Major, "Symphony of a thousand",[23] originally composed by Gustav Mahler, was used in episode fourteen.

They actually have the whole series here:
http://www.kumby.com/category/the-melancholy-of-haruhi-suzumiya-episodes

so, considering the soundtrack they have, i'll have to check it out! 

I've never read the manga version of NHK, but i wonder if it's story is actually any different....

[Renfield]

The episode with the Shostakovich 7 is also brilliant in how it uses the music.

It's used as the soundtrack of a "space battle" computer strategy game, and as the episode phases between the hypothetical universe in which the game itself takes place and the "real" world, the soundtrack also phases from the full score to a PC-speaker reduction, respectively. But I hadn't noticed Daphnis et Chloé!


As for NHK, the manga is - from what I've gathered of the anime version from a friend who's watched it but not read the manga, like you - more introspective and social-commentary-oriented in its focus, than the anime.

[Keemun]

The music was timed quite well to the video, but I don't "get" anime and couldn't take the video seriously enough to be profoundly moved.  I voted "No" because there was no "sort of" option in the poll.  Nice work picking the music though.  Did you stumble onto the connection by accident, or were you trying out different music with the intent of finding a soundtrack?

[greg]

The music was timed quite well to the video, but I don't "get" anime and couldn't take the video seriously enough to be profoundly moved.  I voted "No" because there was no "sort of" option in the poll.  Nice work picking the music though.  Did you stumble onto the connection by accident, or were you trying out different music with the intent of finding a soundtrack?

That's completely understandable, especially since I'm just throwing a random show at everyone.  Really, it helps so much to have seen the whole series, so I think the question is a bit off. I'll ad a "there's something to this" option and a "not much effect" option, and delete the Yes/No.

I thought of the connection because while viewing those last few episodes, I enjoyed it in a way that I enjoy the best of Mahler's music. There's this specific vibe that's like a powerful drug to me- the idea of heaven and hell, despair and hope combined in one breath. This I just about never pick up while watching anime, and I suppose that it might be much more common in movies, but I can't think of much that has this kind of impact. One I can think of, though, is this movie that I hope someone can remember for me. The scenario was about a Jewish guy and his kid being brought into a concentration camp. The guy tells the kid through the whole movie that it's all just a game- it gets pretty elaborate how he has to explain this stuff. However, as they escape, he gets shot down. (what is this movie? can someone tell me?! lol) I think there's a common theme here- about good characters who end up dying. With the girl in the video, you'd understand a bit more having watched the entire series, because she's just like that. By the end, you really really don't want her to die.

The episode with the Shostakovich 7 is also brilliant in how it uses the music.

It's used as the soundtrack of a "space battle" computer strategy game, and as the episode phases between the hypothetical universe in which the game itself takes place and the "real" world, the soundtrack also phases from the full score to a PC-speaker reduction, respectively. But I hadn't noticed Daphnis et Chloé!

I watched the last episode to that show this morning to listen to the Mahler 8. It went on for a good few minutes. Pretty cool scene, although of course I didn't know what was going on, so that really ruins the effect lol. I would've never thought that music would've ever been set to an anime scene where a giant monster shows up and destroys a school!!!

As for NHK, the manga is - from what I've gathered of the anime version from a friend who's watched it but not read the manga, like you - more introspective and social-commentary-oriented in its focus, than the anime.

interesting............
i don't think i could read the manga, though, because i tried looking at the bookstore and couldn't find it.

[greg]

changed, although it might've been unfair to the other person who voted no 

[Renfield]

1) La Vita è bella

2) Bad call to watch only the last episode, as it essentially moots the whole point of the crescendo! Not to mention you are indeed not bound to get much out of it, beyond "big blue monster destroys world, is stopped".


In fact, this is why The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya is (IMO) so impressive: at every turn there is a more-or-less-mundane occurrence (for the context of an anime about an adolescent girl imagining her own reality), and under it a dazzling multitude of very serious alternative interpretations, allusions and implications anything but mundane.

Although I'll grant that it might require a degree of acquaintance with the topics it touches on, to notice.

[greg]

I hope I didn't ruin it for myself! 

Hm, if I understand you correctly, if I don't know much about the certain subjects in the show, it takes away half the fun?.....

well, i basically worked alone the whole weekend (with huge lines) so I got to talk to no one about this show. I know someone who has seen the first few episodes of NHK, but who knows, maybe he's finished it by now. I oughta get him to do this..... 

[imperfection]

Listen to this from 0:00 - 5:20
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/P24ZWhH-o6Q

while watching this video from 2:40- 8:00
this has to be done at the SAME EXACT TIME, please.... the ending lines up perfectly when done so.


http://www.kumby.com/welcome-to-the-nhk-episode-24/




NOTES:

It sounds good when you leave the volume up for the show, because it's mainly just dialogue. However, you might need to adjust it to your liking.

mehhh anime

[greg]

I guess I shouldn't expect my anime/symphony combo to be very popular, other than a couple of people. Usually, one isn't into both at the same time......

[Kullervo]

I liked it; probably more for the music than the images synching-up with the music, but it added a nice touch. I don't think I've ever followed an anime series other than Dragon Ball Z when I was 13.