Luigi Boccherini (1743-1805)!

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Opus106

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on November 25, 2010, 05:11:40 AM
Despite the fact that I already have all 5 of those disks in various incarnations, I think I will grab that box anyway.

He asked, out of sheer curiosity, "But why?".
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Navneeth

The new erato

Quote from: Opus106 on November 26, 2010, 04:20:42 AM
He asked, out of sheer curiosity, "But why?".
Pure madness I would guess. Unless there are space saving issues to be considered?

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Opus106 on November 26, 2010, 04:20:42 AM
He asked, out of sheer curiosity, "But why?".

Well, 1 is a used copy that I bought that plays well but is in very poor condition otherwise, and 2 of them are downloads that I purchased while the other 2 came out of the 70th birthday set (I don't have the set but a person was selling it as individual disks so I got a couple). So yes, I have all the music, but... :-\   :)

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Opus106

That "various incarnations" part now makes sense. :)
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Navneeth

Gurn Blanston

Not only that but a couple of guys, whose opinions I respect, mentioned to me the other day that if I waited long enough, everything would eventually come out as a box set... maybe the wait is over?  :D

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The new erato

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on November 26, 2010, 04:52:09 AM
Well, 1 is a used copy that I bought that plays well but is in very poor condition otherwise, and 2 of them are downloads that I purchased while the other 2 came out of the 70th birthday set (I don't have the set but a person was selling it as individual disks so I got a couple). So yes, I have all the music, but... :-\   :)

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Downloads doesn't count, so now I get it. Downloads are data files, not music.

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: erato on November 26, 2010, 04:58:53 AM
Downloads doesn't count, so now I get it. Downloads are data files, not music.

No, when you pay for them, that makes them music. :)  Anyway, they are data files on the CD too... just sayin'... :)

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SonicMan46

Quote from: Grazioso on November 26, 2010, 04:09:12 AM
I have their Op. 33 set on CPO: fine PI performances, well recorded. This should be a good one.

Grazioso & Gurn - may put that Op. 33 on my wish list -do not currently own those works; do have the Op. 2 early SQuartets on my large Capriccio box - Dave  :D

Grazioso

Quote from: SonicMan on November 26, 2010, 06:43:11 AM
Grazioso & Gurn - may put that Op. 33 on my wish list -do not currently own those works; do have the Op. 2 early SQuartets on my large Capriccio box - Dave  :D

Of the various Boccherini string quartet opuses I've heard so far, I'd rank op. 32 highest. Op. 33 consists of lighter, 2-movement works, but they're still certainly enjoyable.

I'm curious about that box set. I bought a 10-CD Capriccio set a while back, but there are no Op. 2 quartets, rather a miscellaneous grouping. (Op.2 is available on CPO from the modern-instruments--ugh--Sonare Quartet.) Is there another set I missed?
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SonicMan46

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Quote from: Grazioso on November 27, 2010, 04:47:09 AM
Of the various Boccherini string quartet opuses I've heard so far, I'd rank op. 32 highest. Op. 33 consists of lighter, 2-movement works, but they're still certainly enjoyable.

I'm curious about that box set. I bought a 10-CD Capriccio set a while back, but there are no Op. 2 quartets, rather a miscellaneous grouping. (Op.2 is available on CPO from the modern-instruments--ugh--Sonare Quartet.) Is there another set I missed?

I'm assuming that we have the same Capriccio box (shown below) - if so, then you know that only a single disc of String Quartets is included (G. 177, 194, 213, & 248); I went ahead and ordered the 2-disc set of Op. 58 but am now curious about your comments on the Op. 32 works?  I found the 2-CD set below (right) on Amazon USA for a decent price - will need to check on ratings - thanks.  Dave  :)

Edit: found a 1977 Gramophone review HERE- seems like the same recording, i.e. Op. 32 - will order today!

 


kishnevi

Any opinions on this pair of recordings?




I guess the best way I can describe my impression of Op. 32 as rendered here (I have no others with which I can contrast them ) is relatively early Haydn

Grazioso

Quote from: SonicMan on November 27, 2010, 06:53:29 AM
I'm assuming that we have the same Capriccio box (shown below) - if so, then you know that only a single disc of String Quartets is included (G. 177, 194, 213, & 248); I went ahead and ordered the 2-disc set of Op. 58 but am now curious about your comments on the Op. 32 works?  I found the 2-CD set below (right) on Amazon USA for a decent price - will need to check on ratings - thanks.  Dave  :)

Edit: found a 1977 Gramophone review HERE- seems like the same recording, i.e. Op. 32 - will order today!

 

Yes, the same set. I must have misunderstood you: in your original post, it sounded like you said you got the Op. 2 quartets within that set.

That Op. 32 set by the Esterhazy Quartet is awesome. Definitely pull the trigger  :)
There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact. --Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

SonicMan46

Quote from: Grazioso on November 28, 2010, 04:06:43 AM
Yes, the same set. I must have misunderstood you: in your original post, it sounded like you said you got the Op. 2 quartets within that set.

That Op. 32 set by the Esterhazy Quartet is awesome. Definitely pull the trigger  :)

Well, I do have the Op. 2 SQuartets but on the CPO label - and have just ordeed the Op. 32 & 58 works!   :)

SonicMan46

Well, just received two sets (2-discs each) of some of Luigi's many String Quartets; as stated before, I own plenty of his Quintets but the quartets seem to be less recorded; both of these performances are excellent (Gramophone link on the Op. 32 set w/ Jaap Schroder being one of the violinists) - despite the 1976 recording date on the Op. 32 works, the sound is just superb!  :D

QuoteBoccherini, Luigi (1743-1805) - String Quartets, Op. 32 & 58 on different labels and with different groups; really enjoying the Op. 32 works at the moment - published in 1780 (couple of years before Haydn's Op. 33) - these are a reissue recorded in 1976 by the Esterhazy Quartet w/ Jaap Schroder using PI techniques according to this old review from Gramophone HERE - both new arrivals!  :D

 

Bogey



Now listening to Disc 1.  As soon as my wife heard it playing. she snapped up Disc 2 to take with her in the car while running errands.  We both like the sound that is given off by recording in the hall that was used.  It reminded us of a chamber concert we heard played at Williamsburg. 
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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Bogey on January 08, 2011, 11:52:41 AM


Now listening to Disc 1.  As soon as my wife heard it playing. she snapped up Disc 2 to take with her in the car while running errands.  We both like the sound that is given off by recording in the hall that was used.  It reminded us of a chamber concert we heard played at Williamsburg.

Yeah, I'm keen on that box too, Bill. I have all the works otherwise, by three different cellists, but I like the playing of Puxeddu, as well as the sound. That's a very worthwhile box-o-sonatas. :)

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SonicMan46

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on January 08, 2011, 12:24:15 PM
Yeah, I'm keen on that box too, Bill. I have all the works otherwise, by three different cellists, but I like the playing of Puxeddu, as well as the sound. That's a very worthwhile box-o-sonatas. :)

Bill - I own and enjoy that box as well; believe that there may have been some minor complaints by someone in the listening thread not too long ago?  But, Puxeddu does quite well - there is an overall excellent (albeit brief) review HERE for those who may be contemplating a purchase; as usual, the price cannot be beat!  Dave

Bogey

Do any of you have a rec. for his Stabat Mater?
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SonicMan46

Quote from: Bogey on January 08, 2011, 02:03:01 PM
Do any of you have a rec. for his Stabat Mater?

Bill - I have MUCHO MUSIC by Luigi but only one vocal work, which is the Stabat Mater (along w/ another) shown below - this is available from BRO at the present for $10 - have not listened to the disc in a while, so cannot comment of whether it is the best one out there?  Hopefully others will 'chime in' - Dave