Greatness in Music

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Haffner

Quote from: dtw on October 02, 2007, 05:52:00 AM
And rock is a whole other world of tone.






Very interesting point, one that's clicking my brain even more "on" (this can take alot at times).

AnthonyAthletic

Quote from: Haffner on October 02, 2007, 06:28:07 AM
Hey, I don't have that Deep Purple cd yet! It's probably the only one I don't have (this situation is being remedied).

Absolute classic 2cd set, the Live in Tokyo concert. 

Live in London with MK III Purple is pretty good but for me doesn't come close to the Tokyo.  Coverdale/Hughes were a decent change after the 'first' leaving of Ian Gillan, but classic Purple is Gillan IMHO  ;D

http://rapidshare.com/files/56387131/Deep_Purple_-_Live_in_London__2CD_.rar

Disc 1

1. Burn (Live)
2. Might Just Take Your Life (Live)
3. Lay Down, Stay Down (Live)
4. Mistreated (Live)
5. Smoke On The Water (Live)

Disc 2

1. You Fool No One (Live)
2. Space Truckin' (Live)

"Two possibilities exist: Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying"      (Arthur C. Clarke)

Haffner

Quote from: AnthonyAthletic on October 02, 2007, 06:54:49 AM
Absolute classic 2cd set, the Live in Tokyo concert. 

Live in London with MK III Purple is pretty good but for me doesn't come close to the Tokyo.  Coverdale/Hughes were a decent change after the 'first' leaving of Ian Gillan, but classic Purple is Gillan IMHO  ;D

http://rapidshare.com/files/56387131/Deep_Purple_-_Live_in_London__2CD_.rar

Disc 1

1. Burn (Live)
2. Might Just Take Your Life (Live)
3. Lay Down, Stay Down (Live)
4. Mistreated (Live)
5. Smoke On The Water (Live)

Disc 2

1. You Fool No One (Live)
2. Space Truckin' (Live)



You are a very, very good man.

Have you ever checked out Live in Paris '75? It has the best versions of the songs from Stormbringer I've ever heard (you have to hear Gypsy off of that one). Blackmore's last show, and he smokes that Strat, trust me on this. His lead on Lady Double Dealer is blistering, and he emotes tremendously well on Gypsy.

I am a massive fan of Mark II, and Perfect Strangers as well. But several of the Mark III songs ar outstanding as well, imho.

AnthonyAthletic

Quote from: Haffner on October 02, 2007, 07:08:30 AM
Have you ever checked out Live in Paris '75? It has the best versions of the songs from Stormbringer I've ever heard (you have to hear Gypsy off of that one). Blackmore's last show, and he smokes that Strat, trust me on this. His lead on Lady Double Dealer is blistering, and he emotes tremendously well on Gypsy.

No, I haven't heard the Paris '75 recordings, sound excellent.

I can upload the Tokyo concert and pass you the links... ;)  The 'Child in Time' on the concert, different middle solo from Blackmore from the studio version, I prefer the studio version of 'Child' but on the live version Gillan screams on and on for about 4 minutes.  Your ears end up bleeding after this LOL

"Two possibilities exist: Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying"      (Arthur C. Clarke)

dtwilbanks

It was only a matter of time before the Greatness in Music thread circled 'round to Deep Purple.  ;D

karlhenning

I couldn't possibly have an opinion  0:)

AnthonyAthletic

Quote from: dtw on October 02, 2007, 07:18:40 AM
It was only a matter of time before the Greatness in Music thread circled 'round to Deep Purple.  ;D

Aye, Band around at 'Right time, Right place'....there are many more  ;D

Come on Karl, surely you have smoked a joint or two listening to the In Rock album  ;D

"Two possibilities exist: Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying"      (Arthur C. Clarke)

Haffner

Quote from: AnthonyAthletic on October 02, 2007, 07:17:04 AM


I can upload the Tokyo concert and pass you the links... ;)  The 'Child in Time' on the concert, different middle solo from Blackmore from the studio version, I prefer the studio version of 'Child' but on the live version Gillan screams on and on for about 4 minutes.  Your ears end up bleeding after this LOL






Sounds terrific. I am a Deep Purple/Rainbow/Ritchie Blackmore fanatic (you never guessed  ;D ;)?)

Haffner

Quote from: AnthonyAthletic on October 02, 2007, 07:24:13 AM
Aye, Band around at 'Right time, Right place'....there are many more  ;D

Come on Karl, surely you have smoked a joint or two listening to the In Rock album  ;D





Oh the Mighty In Rock, smasher of Led Zeppelin, rival of early Black Sabbath, Holy Grail of seminal hard rock!

Haffner

Quote from: dtw on October 02, 2007, 07:18:40 AM
It was only a matter of time before the Greatness in Music thread circled 'round to Deep Purple.  ;D





Most indubitably JA  ;D ;D!

karlhenning

Quote from: AnthonyAthletic on October 02, 2007, 07:24:13 AM
Come on Karl, surely you have smoked a joint or two listening to the In Rock album  ;D

No, we always get our joints from smokehouses in Virginia;  we haven't smoked our own hams in the family for some four generations  8)

dtwilbanks

Quote from: karlhenning on October 02, 2007, 07:28:48 AM
No, we always get our joints from smokehouses in Virginia;  we haven't smoked our own hams in the family for some four generations  8)

Karl is a prog-rocker, don'tchaknow.   8)

AnthonyAthletic

Quote from: Haffner on October 02, 2007, 07:26:04 AM
Oh the Mighty In Rock, smasher of Led Zeppelin, rival of early Black Sabbath, Holy Grail of seminal hard rock!

Sure was, many a night been mellowed out to the In Rock album...can't do it anymore (She won't let me) and the Brother in Law, who was my mellowing out partner, moved his ass over to Ohio, America.  

Now I sit alone with a six pack, the forum and a Mahler 6 on the weekends  ;)

"Two possibilities exist: Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying"      (Arthur C. Clarke)

JoshLilly

I've often wondered whether a lot of 20th (and now 21st) century music is less popular than older music because the composers have overstepped the line of what the human ear finds "naturally" pleasing. Naturally is probably not the right word, since I'm sure it's to a large extent culture-based, but I don't know any other word to use. I've heard symphonies from the 20th century that some people consider great, and I find that I can't even stand to hear them, they grate on me so badly. From before a certain chronological point, there may be music that I dislike, or even hate, but it never has that same impact on me, where I really can't even stand to have it playing in my presence. I know people will just say it's my "fault", but I seem to be very far from alone in this. For example, I don't like anything I've ever heard by Bruckner, but it's not so that I can't even stomach it if a CD of his music is playing near me. Some of his stuff, I really border on hate for it, but I'll live if someone is listening to a recording near me. But I heard some passages of a symphony by someone named Krenek, and I really couldn't stand the sound, it was physically unbearable to me. Obviously it is liked by some, but is it only me? How come many people have similar reactions? You pick the "worst" piece you can think of from the 18th century and play it for someone completely unfamiliar with "classical" music, and their response probably won't be physical revulsion, even though they think it's worthless, but playing many works of "modern classical" for them you can get some really drastic responses.

What is that all about? Are there "natural" sounds to the Human ear after all? How would certain far eastern music fit into this? I've heard older music from, say, China, and even if I don't like a piece, it never has that same painful effect on me as that Krenek symphony did. When I have negative (borderline physically) reactions to what people call "metal music", that is often because of the electrical instruments and screaming voices and repeated banging drums, not because of the notes themselves, if that makes any sense. In other words, if those same exact notes were performed by, I don't know, a string ensemble, I might hate it, but it wouldn't impact me the same way.

Again, this is all just me, but believe me when I say that I am not alone with my responses to a ton of "modern classical" music. Why is that the case? I know people can react with almost painful loathing to music labeled "atonal". But even if they exhibit pure derision or hatred I've never, ever heard of anyone reacting the same way to a piece from before 1850, for example. Why is that?

Haffner

Quote from: AnthonyAthletic on October 02, 2007, 07:30:20 AM
Sure was, many a night been mellowed out to the In Rock album...can't do it anymore (She won't let me) and the Brother in Law, who was my mellowing out partner, moved his ass over to Ohio, America.  

Now I sit alone with a six pack, the forum and a Mahler 6 on the weekends  ;)





I guess I'm lucky: my girl likes Purple. As to the Mahler 6th: oh, the HvK recording! A glimpse of both Heaven and Hell!

karlhenning

Quote from: JoshLilly on October 02, 2007, 07:30:34 AM
I know people can react with almost painful loathing to music labeled "atonal".

And I know people who can react with almost painful loathing to a piano which is just slightly out-of-tune, which is not the same issue as atonality.

If one tries to make the case that atonality is "unnatural," what is being said, then, about the people who just plain like that music, on first hearing?  For I know this sort of people, too.

Haffner

Quote from: karlhenning on October 02, 2007, 07:53:08 AM
If one tries to make the case that atonality is "unnatural," what is being said, then, about the people who just plain like that music, on first hearing?  For I know this sort of people, too.



I guess I'm "unnatural"; especially if works like the mighty Pierrot Lunaire, Shostakovich's 7th String Quartet, and Schnittke's Viola Concerto are considered "atonal"

dtwilbanks

Quote from: karlhenning on October 02, 2007, 07:53:08 AM
And I know people who can react with almost painful loathing to a piano which is just slightly out-of-tune, which is not the same issue as atonality.

If one tries to make the case that atonality is "unnatural," what is being said, then, about the people who just plain like that music, on first hearing?  For I know this sort of people, too.

Some tonal pallets are wider than others.

karlhenning

Quote from: dtw on October 02, 2007, 07:55:54 AM
Some tonal pallets are wider than others.

Very true -- though I think you mean "palates" . . . I don't deny that my variety of sonic taste could make use of a forklift, however  8)

dtwilbanks

Quote from: karlhenning on October 02, 2007, 07:57:16 AM
Very true -- though I think you mean "palates" . . . I don't deny that my variety of sonic taste could make use of a forklift, however  8)

Oops. Yep. It's all spell-check's fault. ;)