What or who created the universe?

[arkiv]

What or who created the materials and conditions that produced the Big Bang?
Why does the universe exist?
What is the purpose of existence of the living and non-living entities?
Is there a major force or god that created the universe?

[SonicMan46]

What or who created the materials and conditions that produced the Big Bang?
Why does the universe exist?................

Boy w/ just 39 posts, why do you dare to ask such a question? 

Good luck & lookin' forward to the responses - 

[arkiv]

Hi. 

According to Hawking, "the universe would be completely self-contained and not affected by anything outside itself. It would neither be created nor destroyed. It would just BE . . . What place, then, for a creator?"

But who initiated the Big Bang?
I think there is a major creator.

[orbital]

But who initiated the Big Bang?
I think there is a major creator.

Just one little note about the misconception above (then I'm outta here  )

"Who initiated the Big Bang?" is not a valid question. The notion of time begins with the Big Bang, there is no BEFORE you can apply to it or think in relation to it. As if that wasn't enough, there is no SPACE before Big Bang either  These two make all questions of your sort invalid.

Even if there is a Creator, the act of Creation was not a physical act that you can apply the attributes of causality to. So there is no need to bring the two together.
You either believe that there was a Creator who wished that Big Bang just happen, or not.

[springrite]

Don't you just love all the attempts to make personal belief into a "logical" argument? It is the greatest long-running comedy there is.

[david johnson]

'Don't you just love all the attempts to make personal belief into a "logical" argument? It is the greatest long-running comedy there is.'

the attempts to do so with personal disbelief is as funny.

'non-living entities'

?

What or who created the materials and conditions that produced the Big Bang?
God, but why assume there was a big bang?

Why does the universe exist?
it's the result of a previous action...a supernatural creation or physical event.

What is the purpose of existence of the living and non-living entities?
mostly to eat, sleep, reproduce...but not limited to those.

Is there a major force or god that created the universe?
yes, God.

dj

[Ten thumbs]

The universe became so that it can exist, otherwise there would be nothing. If there were no consciousness it wouldn't matter whether it existed or not. 

[Renfield]

Add some Heidegger, stir and serve.

Dare I kindly recommend for the nth time that you all take discussions like these to a philosophy forum? Where I to be ghastly frank, I might even suggest you're embarrassing yourselves, and these discussions often push the notion of "off-topic" almost to the point of "non sequitur".


"Oh, I was wondering, if I had a nuclear reactor with eight uranium rods and wanted to quadruple its output, what would be the best strategy?"

"I'm going to a safari in Africa, and am unsure as to what sort of calibre the bullets I take with me should be. Does a .38 drop an elephant?"


Believe me, I am the first person to insist that these issues are important (no, not the reactor and the bullets). But everything has its place, and also the know-how necessary to discuss it - least of all with the certainty a lot of you display on these sort of topics.


(That having been said, this is not intended to insult or belittle.

It's simply the best way I could find of framing my long-standing reservations about these threads.)

Edit: And I will delete my post if anyone considers it a personal insult.

[drogulus]

Don't you just love all the attempts to make personal belief into a "logical" argument?

    Yes. At least I love them more than attempts to make illogical arguments. I don't love them all equally, though.

     

Hi. 

According to Hawking, "the universe would be completely self-contained and not affected by anything outside itself. It would neither be created nor destroyed. It would just BE . . . What place, then, for a creator?"

But who initiated the Big Bang?
I think there is a major creator.

     I don't see how the concept of creation can be made to work. And though I don't think Hawking is exactly wrong I really don't like the way he puts it here. What does "anything outside itself" refer to? Does he mean "don't even bother thinking about something outside because it makes no sense"? If so he's right. But the way it's said merely indicates the universe is unaffected by what might exist outside, which is incoherent unless Hawking is also positing some kind of multiverse. I don't think he means to do that. What I think he's trying to say is that the universe is the name for everything and causality is internal to it, causality being defined by a succession of events in time.

[Bu]

Is there a major force or god that created the universe?

I was about to quote "The just shall live by faith" by St. Paul in Romans 1:17.  But, then I remembered that, somewhere else in Sacred Scripture that another inspired writer states: "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God" (Psalm 14).

So, am afraid I can't help much here.   Although, the Apostle's words seem the wisest.   0:)

[mn dave]

This created the universe.



Next question.

[ChamberNut]

Welcome back, Sean!  Or Saul?   

[hornteacher]

The Universe was created when the spaceship Terminus entered from a parallel dimension and the pilot jettisoned an unstable fuel tank while still in the time vortex.

Duh, I thought everyone knew that.......

[not edward]

Richard Dawkins, obviously.

[imperfection]

What or who created the materials and conditions that produced the Big Bang?
Why does the universe exist?
What is the purpose of existence of the living and non-living entities?
Is there a major force or god that created the universe?

Lang Lang.

[springrite]

Lang Lang.

You misread the question. The question was "What or Who Created" it. So, the Creator of the Big Bang is obviously Lang Lang's mother.

[Herman]

Ah, yes. I remember a long time ago when there were a lot of this kind of threads on GMG.

Invariably they wound up getting locked, due to acrimony.

Why anyone would want to discuss this on a music forum is anyone´s guess.

[Harry]

Where did the big bang come from, and before that..how became nothing something, and where did the nothing come from, just asking.....

[Brünnhilde forever]

It's always been there! So simple! 

[Harry]

It's always been there! So simple! 

And where does the "there" come from?