The Art of Fugue

prémont · May 04, 2023, 04:12:44 AM

Quote from: San Antone on May 03, 2023, 06:37:10 PMHas this been mentioned?

Lydia Maria Blank - Die Kunst der Fuge

Only for streaming, I suppose.

San Antone · May 04, 2023, 05:55:19 AM

Quote from: premont on May 04, 2023, 04:12:44 AMOnly for streaming, I suppose.

Does that disqualify her recording, in your mind, for consideration?

Streaming has taken over how most people listen to music, so it might not be mandatory in an artist's mind to release a CD or physical product.

prémont · May 04, 2023, 06:07:54 AM

Of course it doesn't disqualify the recording. It's just that I don't have the necessary gear for streaming.

San Antone · May 04, 2023, 06:27:45 AM

Quote from: premont on May 04, 2023, 06:07:54 AMOf course it doesn't disqualify the recording. It's just that I don't have the necessary gear for streaming.

I have to wonder, "why not."

prémont · May 04, 2023, 10:36:48 AM

Quote from: San Antone on May 04, 2023, 06:27:45 AMI have to wonder, "why not."

Well, maybe I at some point shall investigate the options, but I'm not sure that my Naim amplifier can work together with a streaming device, and if I can't listen on my main system my interest is vaning.

Dry Brett Kavanaugh · May 04, 2023, 11:21:36 AM

Guitar by Aurelien Delplat.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kSlqNjV3GoLfOIQldQvYGchwbHXGsloqM

DavidW · May 04, 2023, 11:49:22 AM

Quote from: premont on May 04, 2023, 10:36:48 AMWell, maybe I at some point shall investigate the options, but I'm not sure that my Naim amplifier can work together with a streaming device, and if I can't listen on my main system my interest is vaning.

Streamers have analog outs. Commonly both unbalanced and balanced. If you can plug in a cd player, you can plug in a streamer.

My Bluesound Node 2i is cheap and has rca connections, toslink and coax:

My Cambridge Audio which I'm about to sell has all that plus balanced XLR.

prémont · May 04, 2023, 02:35:27 PM

Is streaming mp3 quality in general?

DavidW · May 04, 2023, 05:05:16 PM

Quote from: premont on May 04, 2023, 02:35:27 PMIs streaming mp3 quality in general?

If you use Spotify... but I use Idagio (a classical music streaming service) which is flac. It is identical to a cd. Before that I used Qobuz which offers hd audio, as in the studio master.

Mandryka · May 04, 2023, 07:10:42 PM

Quote from: premont on May 04, 2023, 02:35:27 PMIs streaming mp3 quality in general?

LMB's AoF is only available in mp3 as far as I can see. The Byrd and the Italian compilation are available in a lossless format.

Her distribution company is a dog's dinner and I really wonder if she is unaware of how bad they are.

Generally Qobuz is lossless as is Tidal and maybe others, I subscribe to Qobuz and to Spotify. Five years ago I could hear a difference, not so much now - age I guess.

Mandryka · May 05, 2023, 07:27:31 AM

Quote from: premont on May 05, 2023, 03:58:52 AMFor now this may be the least complicated, so I'll try it.

I've been listening to it today with more concentration than before. You should hear it by hook or by crook. The harpsichord sounds fine even in lossy sound. It's quite a varied performance, with some of the cpt being contemplative and some much more lively. I never got the impression of it being tense or turbulent. Imaginative juxtaposition of the voices sometimes too, things which make you prick up your ear. Rubato mostly not too obtrusive for me. It's early days to reach a conclusion, but I feel quite positive as you could see, it could well be a keeper.

prémont · May 05, 2023, 12:00:31 PM

Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on May 04, 2023, 11:21:36 AMGuitar by Aurelien Delplat.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kSlqNjV3GoLfOIQldQvYGchwbHXGsloqM

I wonder how he - from a technical point of view - made this recording. Whatever he did he makes the music fluid, uncomplicated and listener-friendly. Not quite what I associate with this work.

Dry Brett Kavanaugh · May 05, 2023, 12:45:52 PM

Quote from: premont on May 05, 2023, 12:00:31 PMI wonder how he - from a technical point of view - made this recording. Whatever he did he makes the music fluid, uncomplicated and listener-friendly. Not quite what I associate with this work.

Harmonic progressions and all the notes are clear. He can't fool listeners.

prémont · May 05, 2023, 02:49:55 PM

Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on May 05, 2023, 12:45:52 PMHarmonic progressions and all the notes are clear. He can't fool listeners.

I suppose he uses multi-tracking but of course it's still very difficult to make the different voices sound so clear and precise as he is able to. No doubt about his technical brilliance.

Dry Brett Kavanaugh · May 05, 2023, 03:29:14 PM

Quote from: premont on May 05, 2023, 02:49:55 PMI suppose he uses multi-tracking but of course it's still very difficult to make the different voices sound so clear and precise as he is able to. No doubt about his technical brilliance.

I didn't think that he overdubbed guitar, but I maybe wrong. @Bachtoven what do you think?

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kSlqNjV3GoLfOIQldQvYGchwbHXGsloqM

Post Ed. I changed my mind. Yes he could have overdubbed for some pieces.

Bachtoven · May 05, 2023, 04:08:13 PM

Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on May 05, 2023, 03:29:14 PMI didn't think that he overdubbed guitar, but I maybe wrong. @Bachtoven what do you think?

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kSlqNjV3GoLfOIQldQvYGchwbHXGsloqM

Post Ed. I changed my mind. Yes he could have overdubbed for some pieces.

I think it's a MIDI performance and not a real guitar at all! I'm not hearing the normal attack on the strings, particularly the bass strings, and the ornaments definitely sound like MIDI. If that's the case, this guy is a complete fraud!

If you want it on guitar, this is one to get. He clearly states that he used two 8-string guitars:

Bachtoven · May 05, 2023, 04:23:14 PM

I recently bought tickets to hear this pianist play it in Berkeley next year. His recording is excellent.

aukhawk · May 06, 2023, 12:25:15 AM

+1 for Gorini. Rather indulgent, but definitely a favourite with me.

Quote from: premont on May 04, 2023, 02:35:27 PMIs streaming mp3 quality in general?

Quote from: DavidW on May 04, 2023, 05:05:16 PMIf you use Spotify... but I use Idagio (a classical music streaming service) which is flac. It is identical to a cd. Before that I used Qobuz which offers hd audio, as in the studio master.

That reply does a disservice to Spotify. Yes their stream is lossily compressed, but it is not mp3 and the quality is better than the best that mp3 can offer. These old ears of mine are admittedly too far gone to be any kind of arbiter, but I can't hear any difference at all between Spotify (premium) and a hi-rez 96/24 flac download of the same recording.

prémont · May 06, 2023, 02:59:22 AM

Quote from: Bachtoven on May 05, 2023, 04:08:13 PMI think it's a MIDI performance and not a real guitar at all! I'm not hearing the normal attack on the strings, particularly the bass strings, and the ornaments definitely sound like MIDI. If that's the case, this guy is a complete fraud!

It also struck me yesterday that this might be the case, and thinking it over again I think you are right.

Dry Brett Kavanaugh · May 06, 2023, 03:59:42 AM

Quote from: Bachtoven on May 05, 2023, 04:08:13 PMI think it's a MIDI performance and not a real guitar at all! I'm not hearing the normal attack on the strings, particularly the bass strings, and the ornaments definitely sound like MIDI. If that's the case, this guy is a complete fraud!

If you want it on guitar, this is one to get. He clearly states that he used two 8-string guitars:

Wow I never thought about MIDI! I thought that it was real. But I think you are right and I agree with what you said. Sorry about posting the unauthentic recording and thank you for the clarification. The albums look very interesting while I don't know about the artists. I will check them out.