Started by karlhenning, January 06, 2009, 05:22:42 AM
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Quote from: karlhenning on January 08, 2009, 07:03:53 AM4. But . . . how do we make the case that he is to considered a 'classical composer' rather than an unusually literate pop bandleader/performer/writer?
Quote from: Corey on January 08, 2009, 07:34:09 AMHey, if Laura Pausini can be in the Classical forum...
Quote from: ' on January 08, 2009, 07:41:49 AMYes, I think I prefer it. It could be No 1 (with a bullet).'
Quote from: ' on January 08, 2009, 07:52:57 AMBecause he has such a big and convincing foot in the classical world. Where would we put him if we only knew the Nagano, Boulez, Yellow Shark, Royal Philharmonic, Lumpy Gravy orch stuff, 200 Motels with the LA phil and Mehta, etc.
Quote from: 'I don't shop there, but I certainly find the Boulez and Columbia classical things in classical, in-store and on-linePlus aforementioned recordings/performances (Mehta, Nagano, Boulez, et al)
Quote from: 'You might be amused to look at Slonimsky's various Baker's entries on Zappa over the years. His opinion evolved. Nick changed his tune over the years (after he played with the band?)
Quote from: ' on January 08, 2009, 07:55:39 AMAh, but Billy the Mountain has such a delightful, well developed use of leitmotif: Billy, Ethyl, the Tonight Show theme'
QuoteQuote from: bwv 1080Uncle Meat is the earliest Zappa album I will repeatedly listen to. The earlier stuff is fun but dated.Yes, it doesn't wear quite so well. Uncle Meat is indeed the goods.Quote from: bwv 1080It's still hard to beat Hot Rats though.That, One Size Fits All, Weasels Ripped My Flesh . . . and quite a few of the later live albums . . . always fall fresh by my ears.
Quote from: bwv 1080Uncle Meat is the earliest Zappa album I will repeatedly listen to. The earlier stuff is fun but dated.
Quote from: bwv 1080It's still hard to beat Hot Rats though.
Quote from: John Adams. . . There seems to be a quality issue with Zappa's serious music that cannot be gotten around.
QuoteFZ: guitar and white stick with cork handleTony Duran: slide guitar Ian Underwood: piano and synthesizerDave Parlato: bass Jerry Kessler: electric celloJim Gordon: electric drumsMike Altschul: piccolo, bass clarinet and other windsJay Migliori: flute, tenor sax and other windsEarle Dumler: oboe, contrabass sarrusophone and other windsRay Reed: clarinet, tenor sax and other windsCharles Owens: soprano sax, alto sax and other windsJoann McNab: bassoonMalcolm McNab: trumpet in DSal Marquez: trumpet in BbTom Malone: trumpet in Bb, also tubaGlenn Ferris: trombone and euphoniumKenny Shroyer: trombone and baritone hornBruce Fowler: trombone of the upper atmosphereTom Raney: vibes and electric percussionRuth Underwood: marimba and electric percussion
Quote from: Dr. Dread on January 08, 2009, 11:32:53 AMJn Adams?
Quote from: karlhenning on January 08, 2009, 11:35:13 AMIn this post of James's
Quote from: mn dave on January 08, 2009, 07:31:07 AMHis most commercial may be Overnite Sensation and Apostrophe; his most popular anyway.
Quote from: karlhenning on January 09, 2009, 11:21:39 AMNot at all to discount your suggestion(s), mon vieux . . . they do raise one of the cruces of the biscuit, as it were.In the excerpt James offered, we find Jn Adams writing something of a conflicted tribute, in part because of the 'appeal to the eternal six-year-old in all of us' (though what a 6-year-old makes of the G-spot, is anyone's guess).Some music-lovers I know, who might from a purely sonic standpoint be game to give Zappa a chance, would find potty-mouth lyrics (at random example, "Fem-Bot in a Wet T-Shirt" from Joe's Garage, say) off-putting.Just another Zappigraphical consideration . . . .
Quote from: mn dave on January 09, 2009, 11:24:14 AMNah. J. Winter loves that stuff.
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