Anner and his legacy for just 19,95!

Started by Harry, May 24, 2007, 03:57:57 AM

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Harry

This fine box for so little money is a bargain I think.
What do you think? 11 cd's, 19,95.
Have it already and find it so fine, that I wanted to bring this at your attention again.

George

Quote from: Harry on May 24, 2007, 03:57:57 AM
This fine box for so little money is a bargain I think.
What do you think? 12 cd's, 19,95.
Have it already and find it so fine, that I wanted to bring this at your attention again.

Where is it available?   :)

Harry

Quote from: George on May 24, 2007, 04:00:20 AM
Where is it available?   :)

Well in Europe at JPC George.
And that's the only place I order! :)

Sergeant Rock

Thanks, Harry. Just placed my order  :)

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

George

Quote from: Harry on May 24, 2007, 04:05:38 AM
Well in Europe at JPC George.
And that's the only place I order! :)

Thanks.  :)

GAD! I recently bought the later version of his Bach Suites. Anyone know if the ones included here are the early or late recordings?  :-\

Bunny

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I love this box set!  It includes Beethoven's Music for Cello and Piano with Jos van Immerseel which is now out of print, and otherwise very difficult to find.

It's also available through HMV UK for about the same price.  The shipping to the USA is a bit less than the German postal rates, and the price includes the VAT (Value Added Tax) which is deducted when the album is shipped outside the European Union.

Quote from: George on May 24, 2007, 04:44:12 AM
Thanks.  :)

GAD! I recently bought the later version of his Bach Suites. Anyone know if the ones included here are the early or late recordings?  :-\

Sorry, but it has the later set.  But, it also includes Schubert's Quintet in C, Mozart's Divertimento k563, 4 Adagios and Fugues after Bach (the greatest HIP recording of the K.563); the Mendelssohn Octet; His great OOP recording "The Cello and the King of Prussia;" The Brahms Sonatas for Piano and Cello (with Lambert Orkis on Fortepiano); the Boccherini Concertos (with Tafelmusik); and the vivaldi Cello Concertos. 

I don't think anyone will go wrong with this set unless they are lucky enough to already have all of the music under separate covers.

Que

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Quote from: George on May 24, 2007, 04:44:12 AM
I recently bought the later version of his Bach Suites. Anyone know if the ones included here are the early or late recordings?  :-\

If I remember correctly it's the 2nd recording but I'm not 100% sure.
I think real gemms here are the Bach suites, the LvB sonatas, the Mozart and the Schubert. More than enough to justify the purchase - highly recommended!

1.CD Bach:Cellosuiten BWV 1007-1009
2.CD Bach:Cellosuiten BWV 1010-1012
3.CD Beethoven:Cellosonaten Nr. 1-3
4.CD Beethoven:Cellosonaten Nr. 4 & 5; Mozart-Variationen op. 66 für Cello & Klavier
5.CD Boccherini:Cellokonzerte Nr 3 & 11; Symphonie Nr. 4;Ouvertüre G. 521;Oktett G. 470
6.CD Brahms:Cellosonaten Nr. 1 & 2; Schumann:5 Stücke im Volkston op. 102
7.CD JP Duport:Sonate op. 2, 1 für 2 Celli & Klavier;JL Duport:Exercises Nr. 9 & 11 für 2 Celli;Beethoven Variationen WoO. 45 & 46 für Cello & Klavier;Romberg:Cellosonate Nr. 1
8.CD Mendelssohn: Oktett op. 20; Gade: Oktett op. 17
9.CD Mozart:Divertimento KV 563;Adagios & Fugen KV 404a Nr. 1-3, 6
10.CD Schubert:Streichquintett D. 956; Rondo D. 438
11.CD Vivaldi:Cellokonzerte RV 413 & 418; Konzerte für Streicher RV 117, 134, 143, 159; Konzert für Violine & Cello RV 547; Konzerte für 2 Violinen & 2 Celli RV 575; Konzert für 4 Violinen RV 549 Bylsma, Orkis, L'Archibudelli, Tafelmusik u. a.


Q

George


Bunny


FideLeo

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Quote from: Que on May 24, 2007, 05:52:24 AM
If I remember correctly it's the 2nd recording but I'm not 100% sure.
I think real gemms here are the Bach suites, the LvB sonatas, the Mozart and the Schubert. More than enough to justify the purchase - highly recommended!

.....
7.CD JP Duport:Sonate op. 2, 1 für 2 Celli & Klavier;JL Duport:Exercises Nr. 9 & 11 für 2 Celli;Beethoven Variationen WoO. 45 & 46 für Cello & Klavier;Romberg:Cellosonate Nr. 1
....

Q

Oh no!  You and Bunny are both developing a faulty memory....It's the first (and better in my book) recording included in the box even though the cardboard sleeves show cover pictures of the later recording.  Listen to your CDs, don't just look at them.... Also, if they have not corrected it, CD7 has a lot of mistakes in its documentation as well, i.e. track names and music don't match.
HIP for all and all for HIP! Harpsichord for Bach, fortepiano for Beethoven and pianoforte for Brahms!

George

Quote from: fl.traverso on May 24, 2007, 09:58:44 AM
Oh no!  You and Bunny are both developing a faulty memory....It's the first (1970s) recording included in the box even though the cardboard sleeves show cover pictures of the later recording.  Take a listen of your CDs, don't just look at them.... If they have not corrected it, CD7 has a lot of mistakes in its labeling as well, i.e. track names and music don't match.

Thanks! That is very good news!!!  :)

Que

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Quote from: fl.traverso on May 24, 2007, 09:58:44 AM
Oh no!  You and Bunny are both developing a faulty memory....It's the first (and better in my book) recording included in the box even though the cardboard sleeves show cover pictures of the later recording.  Listen to your CDs, don't just look at them.... Also, if they have not corrected it, CD7 has a lot of mistakes in its documentation as well, i.e. track names and music don't match.

I've never owned this particular set, hence the reliance on my memory!
But I'm very glad that you've shed your light on this darkness.... ;D

Q

FideLeo

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Quote from: Que on May 24, 2007, 10:07:47 AM
I've never owned this particular set, hence the reliance on my memory!
But I'm very glad that you've shed your light in this darkness.... ;D

Q

Sorry!  I didn't know you were in the dark!  :P

I've got some evidence for my assertion as well, although it is in Japanese. 
Look at the product page for this set at Tower Records Japan:

http://www.towerrecords.co.jp/sitemap/CSfCardMain.jsp?GOODS_NO=765420&GOODS_SORT_CD=102

Halfway down the page one sees some information printed in red: In the first instance, it says for CD1, 2 Bylsma's first recording was used, and it's the one where he played a real Baroque cello (i.e. not the 'post-op' Strad Servais ;)).  The "singing" quality in his approach is remarkable, and the sound of the instrument most unique.  All in all, a definite recording for the repertory and the raison d'être for the set.  In the second instance, which occurs a bit further down the page, a note reads that since this is a "Limited Edition" Sony is not making new pressings so faulty copies will only be exchanged at further notice.  (What other faults are there in this set? :-[)  Down below there is a list of all recordings included in the box.  Note that CD1, 2 (Bach Unaccompanied Cello Suites) have the production date of 1979
HIP for all and all for HIP! Harpsichord for Bach, fortepiano for Beethoven and pianoforte for Brahms!

Que

Quote from: fl.traverso on May 24, 2007, 10:20:29 AM
Sorry!  I didn't know you were in the dark!  :P

I've got some evidence for my assertion as well, although it is in Japanese. 
Look at the product page for this set at Tower Records Japan:

http://www.towerrecords.co.jp/sitemap/CSfCardMain.jsp?GOODS_NO=765420&GOODS_SORT_CD=102

I hope I didn't give the impression I didn't take your word for it?
It has been quite a while since I came across this set, so I'm not surprised that I remembered incorrectly.

Don't know if many of us here can read the linked text though...  :)

Q

George

Quote from: Que on May 24, 2007, 11:07:33 AM
I hope I didn't give the impression I didn't take your word for it?
It has been quite a while since I came across this set, so I'm not surprised that I remembered incorrectly.

Don't know if many of us here can read the linked text though...  :)

Q

Yeah, I tried two different Babel Fish's. To no avail.   :-\

FideLeo

#15
Quote from: Que on May 24, 2007, 11:07:33 AM
I hope I didn't give the impression I didn't take your word for it?
It has been quite a while since I came across this set, so I'm not surprised that I remembered incorrectly.


No, not at all.  I think we are understood there.  But I thought you said you "never owned this particular set"... which "set" is it?   Is it the original release on Seon, the Sony budget re-release, or this Limited Edition set?   I am the one in the dark here.   ;)

Quote

Don't know if many of us here can read the linked text though...  :)

Q

That's why I tried providing a translation of the parts that are relevant to our discussion here (pardon the dreadful red highlights), sketchy as it is!  :-[

HIP for all and all for HIP! Harpsichord for Bach, fortepiano for Beethoven and pianoforte for Brahms!

Que

Quote from: fl.traverso on May 24, 2007, 11:18:35 AM
No, not at all.  I think we are understood there.  But I thought you said you "never owned this particular set"... which "set" is it?   Is it the original release on Seon, the Sony budget re-release, or this Limited Edition set?   I am the one in the dark here.   ;)

I see. :) I was talking about the Jubilee Limited Edition set at issue here.

Q

FideLeo

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Quote from: Que on May 24, 2007, 11:24:12 AM
I see. :) I was talking about the Jubilee Limited Edition set at issue here.

Q

Meaning you own all these Bylsma recordings in their original release:o

I have more than half of its contents duplicated, but I thought what the h*** this is affordable.  ;D
HIP for all and all for HIP! Harpsichord for Bach, fortepiano for Beethoven and pianoforte for Brahms!

Bunny

Quote from: fl.traverso on May 24, 2007, 09:58:44 AM
Oh no!  You and Bunny are both developing a faulty memory....It's the first (and better in my book) recording included in the box even though the cardboard sleeves show cover pictures of the later recording.  Listen to your CDs, don't just look at them.... Also, if they have not corrected it, CD7 has a lot of mistakes in its documentation as well, i.e. track names and music don't match.

well!  Thank you for the correction.  I never played those particular cds because I have both sets of the suites already, and they have always been close at hand.  I merely assumed that with the picture from the later set, the suites would be those.  Ofcourse, if they make corrections to the later sets, they may very well put in the later recordings and retain the graphics.  Or, they may just leave it as it is, with only those who have both sets who atually play the recordings to make the distinction.

Bunny

Quote from: fl.traverso on May 24, 2007, 11:28:51 AM
Meaning you own all these Bylsma recordings in their original release:o

I have more than half of its contents duplicated, but I thought what the h*** this is affordable.  ;D

Yes, the same reasoning I used, and when I tried to obtain the Beethoven I found the prices being asked for the set which is now OOP were higher than the price of this set! :o

Moreover, I didn't have to purchase the Cello and the King of Prussia for the Beethoven variations.  It was even more of a bargain when I ordered it last year from HMV because the dollar was not as weak against the pound then.