What audio system do you have, or plan on getting?

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drogulus

Quote from: Bogey on January 02, 2009, 06:54:35 PM
Sorry to throw this one out again, but should I raise my floor speakers up off the floor a bit?

     Try it and see. These aren't actually tower speakers and they might open up a bit raised off the floor. Do they sound bass heavy to you? I look at that 15" woofer and wonder. It's possible though that they are balanced for floor placement and mounting them off the floor will make things worse.

     
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Bogey

Quote from: 71 dB on January 03, 2009, 05:19:59 AM
What speakers do you have? Floor speakers are (or at least should be) designed so that you don't need to raise them. Usually tweeter is supposed to be on the same level as your ears when you sit down to listen.

What do you want to gain by raising the speakers? Avoid reflection? What is wrong with the sound?

Quote from: drogulus on January 03, 2009, 02:07:34 PM
     Try it and see. These aren't actually tower speakers and they might open up a bit raised off the floor. Do they sound bass heavy to you? I look at that 15" woofer and wonder. It's possible though that they are balanced for floor placement and mounting them off the floor will make things worse.

     

Good points.  Thanks!
There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

Shrunk

The latest in audiophile accessories, from a new company obviously on the cutting edge of technology.  Every one a bargain.

http://www.nathanmarciniak.com/elemental/

Herman

Guy must have a lot of time on his hands.

I can't believe someone would go to the truble of creating a website for a bunch of lame jokes.

Also, 71dB would take offense these aids are not for the multi channel world.

DavidRoss

Nah, Poju already has a Müsicøné set up for every channel in his multi-channel system.  When tuned properly they're indispensable for enhancing vibrational fields.  Plus, if you cover one with tin foil and wear it like a hat, it will make you smart enough to understand how Elgar's multi-dimensional vibrational fields make his music superior to anyone else's--especially that overrated hack, Beethoven.  Note, however, that for the tin foil hat trick to work, you must first put it on and stand in an open field during a thunderstorm until the finger of God Ex Nihilo anoints you as the chosen one.
"Maybe the problem most of you have ... is that you're not listening to Barbirolli." ~Sarge

"The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money." ~Margaret Thatcher

Coopmv


Coopmv

Quote from: Coopmv on February 16, 2009, 05:37:49 PM
My last post was unsuccessful ...

Bill,    Here are my open-reel decks.  The smallest one (i.e. the one with the small reels) was the one that originally recorded the Christopher Hogwood's All Bach Program at the Library of Congress off the air back in the mid 80's.  I also digitized that tape via Audacity and played it yesterday on my desktop.


Bogey

Quote from: Coopmv on February 16, 2009, 05:38:52 PM
Bill,    Here are my open-reel decks.  The smallest one (i.e. the one with the small reels) was the one that originally recorded the Christopher Hogwood's All Bach Program at the Library of Congress off the air back in the mid 80's.  I also digitized that tape via Audacity and played it yesterday on my desktop.



Thanks Stuart!  Very cool.  I just love stereo equipment that weighs as much as a new 'fridge. 
There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

Coopmv

Quote from: Bogey on February 16, 2009, 05:52:32 PM
Thanks Stuart!  Very cool.  I just love stereo equipment that weighs as much as a new 'fridge. 

Bill,  I do not like most feather-weight equipments which are so commonplace today.  I just cannot see how a sub-10 lbs CD/DVD player, almost always Chinese-made, can provide good isolation when the drive is spinning so fast.  But people get what they paid for, what can I say?

Valentino

An uncle of mine had a Tandberg TD20A like that. A battleship. Tape costs at 7 1/2 ips was the same as the cost of an original LP...
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Bogey

Quote from: Valentino on February 16, 2009, 11:37:24 PM
An uncle of mine had a Tandberg TD20A like that. A battleship. Tape costs at 7 1/2 ips was the same as the cost of an original LP...

LOL....classic description!
There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

Daverz



Yet another phono cartridge to add to the collection, this one a trade-in on a broken Dynavector 10x5.  The Dynavector 20x is a popular one.

DavidRoss

Quote from: Daverz on February 17, 2009, 06:39:37 AM


Yet another phono cartridge to add to the collection, this one a trade-in on a broken Dynavector 10x5.  The Dynavector 20x is a popular one.
How does the sound compare to the 10x5, and can you describe your system to provide a context for your impressions, please?
"Maybe the problem most of you have ... is that you're not listening to Barbirolli." ~Sarge

"The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money." ~Margaret Thatcher

nut-job

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Quote from: Coopmv on February 16, 2009, 06:14:37 PM
Bill,  I do not like most feather-weight equipments which are so commonplace today.  I just cannot see how a sub-10 lbs CD/DVD player, almost always Chinese-made, can provide good isolation when the drive is spinning so fast.  But people get what they paid for, what can I say?

There is no need for mechanical isolation, if that is what you mean.  A $30 CD drive that weighs a few ounces, sitting in your computer can read data off a compact disc 32 times faster than your CD player does with absolutely no errors.  A good audio CD player is expensive because it has a decent power supply and because the digital-to-analog converter and subsequent analog components utilize high quality components.  The power supply tends to add some weight, but the good circuitry doesn't have to.

Daverz

Quote from: DavidRoss on February 17, 2009, 07:25:28 AM
How does the sound compare to the 10x5, and can you describe your system to provide a context for your impressions, please?

I just ordered it.  I'll report as soon as I get it.  It does have a micro-ridge stylus and is the low output version, while the 10x5 is elliptical and only comes in a hight output version.  My system is described here:

http://cgi.audioasylum.com/systems/8291.html

I really like the AT33PTG cartridge I'm using now, and it's an incredible bargain.  But I'd like to see if I can get a little more warmth and midrange presence (and I had that broken 10x5 sitting in the closet, so...).  Other cartridges I suppose I could have tried in that price range or lower are the Denon 103 (I think I'd have to add some mass to the headshell for that one, and you better have lots of clean gain for its flea output), or one of the Ortofon 2M color series of moving magnet cartridges (I haven't had much luck with moving magnets, though).

DavidRoss

 8)  Although I liked some of the characteristics of the modest Grado Platinum MM I was using, I got tired of the low level hum in my system.  I found a deal on the improved 10x5 that I couldn't pass up and have been content--but have been curious about what improvement the 20x might offer.  I'm not about to pursue the nth degree of audio nirvana by chasing tinier and tinier incremental improvements at greater and greater expense.  I'm more of a bang-for-the-buck sort of guy--of course, the marginal tipping point differs from person to person...and with my disposable income as well!

As for the Denon--I considered the Zu upgrade for only $100 or so more, but passed mainly because I didn't want to spring for a transformer, too!
"Maybe the problem most of you have ... is that you're not listening to Barbirolli." ~Sarge

"The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money." ~Margaret Thatcher

Daverz

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Quote from: DavidRoss on February 17, 2009, 08:24:45 AM
8)  Although I liked some of the characteristics of the modest Grado Platinum MM I was using, I got tired of the low level hum in my system. 

Hum from the turntable motor? 

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I found a deal on the improved 10x5 that I couldn't pass up and have been content--but have been curious about what improvement the 20x might offer.  I'm not about to pursue the nth degree of audio nirvana by chasing tinier and tinier incremental improvements at greater and greater expense.  I'm more of a bang-for-the-buck sort of guy--of course, the marginal tipping point differs from person to person...and with my disposable income as well!

As for the Denon--I considered the Zu upgrade for only $100 or so more, but passed mainly because I didn't want to spring for a transformer, too!

Note that the output of the 20x low output version is, at .3mV, not much more than the .25mV output of the Denon, so unless you have the gain for it, you'd probably want to go for the high output version, which will have a different sound than the low output version.  There's also a medium output (1mV) version of the DV20x made specially for VPI. 

Coopmv

Quote from: Valentino on February 16, 2009, 11:37:24 PM
An uncle of mine had a Tandberg TD20A like that. A battleship. Tape costs at 7 1/2 ips was the same as the cost of an original LP...

I showed photo of my TD20A in a post from a few days ago ...

Valentino

That was the photo I was referring to, Coopmv.
It's great that enthusiasts like yourself keep and use these magnificent machines. These days there are more effective ways of storing music, but that doesn't matter.
My uncle sold his TD20A. Too many maintenance hours for him. He transferred all his radio recordings to hard disk first.
We audiophiles don't really like music, but we sure love the sound it makes;
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Coopmv

Quote from: Valentino on February 20, 2009, 11:25:31 PM
That was the photo I was referring to, Coopmv.
It's great that enthusiasts like yourself keep and use these magnificent machines. These days there are more effective ways of storing music, but that doesn't matter.
My uncle sold his TD20A. Too many maintenance hours for him. He transferred all his radio recordings to hard disk first.

Open-reel decks are generally quite durable.  The problems these days are the space (10.5" reels are large) and it is a very expensive media due to limited production if you can even find them.  However, to get equivalent sound, you will need gigabytpes on your hard-drive.  I digitized a live concert of Christopher Hogwood and the AAM from an open-reel tape a few months ago, it took up about 1.4 GB of my hard-drive.