history, geography and music in North America

Started by Benny, January 28, 2009, 05:54:16 PM

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Benny

So much potential, so little achievement!

Let's see:

A Moldau for the Mississippi;

A "Leningrad" for the American Revolution;

A Sensemaya for the Adena Mountbuilders

A tone poem for the Trail of Tears

A Don Quixote for Geronimo

But we do have Dvorak's New World Symphony

"The need to be right is the sign of a vulgar mind."
(Albert Camus)

Renfield

#1
Quote from: Benny on January 28, 2009, 05:54:16 PM
A "Leningrad" for the American Revolution;

This does sound like something I'd want to hear, by a composer of appropriate skill.

And I think I know at least one who's quite acquainted with Shostakovich's idiom... Karl, how about it? Fancy a large scale orchestral project? :D

;)

Florestan

Quote from: Renfield on January 28, 2009, 06:09:02 PM
This does sound like something I'd want to hear, by a composer of appropriate skill.

Isn't the music form "The Patriot" enough?   ;D :D
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

karlhenning

Quote from: Renfield on January 28, 2009, 06:09:02 PM
This does sound like something I'd want to hear, by a composer of appropriate skill.

And I think I know at least one who's quite acquainted with Shostakovich's idiom... Carl, how about it? Fancy a large scale orchestral project? :D

;)

Well, you know . . . Dmitri Dmitriyevich actually lived in the city under siege.  Washington crossed the Delaware rather before my time  8)

Of course, any proposed commission I should consider quite thoroughly  ;D

Florestan

Quote from: karlhenning on January 29, 2009, 04:28:56 AM
Well, you know . . . Dmitri Dmitriyevich actually lived in the city under siege.  Washington crossed the Delaware rather before my time  8)

Just wait and pray you live long enough to witness the Chinese besieging New York.  ;D :D








(just a joke, of course)
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

karlhenning

I've heard tell that the Hudson River separates New York City from Albany . . . .

Florestan

Quote from: karlhenning on January 29, 2009, 05:11:23 AM
I've heard tell that the Hudson River separates New York City from Albany . . . .

Don't count on that. Rumor has it in The Diner that the Chinese are very good at navigating American waters...
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

ChamberNut


karlhenning


Christo

... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

Archaic Torso of Apollo

formerly VELIMIR (before that, Spitvalve)

"Who knows not strict counterpoint, lives and dies an ignoramus" - CPE Bach

Opus106

Quote from: Spitvalve on January 29, 2009, 05:38:34 AM
Requiem for the American Auto Industry

I'm sure Stockhausen would've come up with something for two turbo-charged engines and a radiator.
Regards,
Navneeth

Superhorn

   America has things like Charles Ives'  Holidays Symphony, with its depiction of Thanksgiving,etc, and the four movements can be performed separately,
William  Schuman's  New  England  Tryptich, The Grand Canyon Suite by Ferde Grofe, John Corigliano's first symphony, dedicated to AIDS victims,
  the operas Nixon in China by John Adams, Appamatox by Philip Glass,
Carlisle Floyd's Susannah, Virgil Thomson's The Mother of Us All, Howard Hanson's Merry Mount,based on New England Puritan life, Ned Rorem's Our Town,based on the Thornton Wilder play, etc.
  This is not a list of works to be ashamed about,and there's a lot more.

Benny

Quote from: Superhorn on January 29, 2009, 07:40:36 AM
   America has things like Charles Ives'  Holidays Symphony, with its depiction of Thanksgiving,etc, and the four movements can be performed separately,
William  Schuman's  New  England  Tryptich, The Grand Canyon Suite by Ferde Grofe, John Corigliano's first symphony, dedicated to AIDS victims,
  the operas Nixon in China by John Adams, Appamatox by Philip Glass,
Carlisle Floyd's Susannah, Virgil Thomson's The Mother of Us All, Howard Hanson's Merry Mount,based on New England Puritan life, Ned Rorem's Our Town,based on the Thornton Wilder play, etc.
  This is not a list of works to be ashamed about,and there's a lot more.
Don't take this thread in a negative way. I just think there's a tremendous amount of momentous historical events and remarkable geographic features that have not been captured in composition. But let us pray that Grofe's Grand Canyon Suite will not be the only work written about such a unique land formation. ;D
"The need to be right is the sign of a vulgar mind."
(Albert Camus)


Renfield

#15
Firstly, apologies to Karl for misspelling his name, above.

It's Jung, he's the first [C]arl I encountered, and now all [K]arls are also Carls in my head, regardless of recent knowledge or experience. Terrible! :o ;)


Secondly, and on topic, how about a Variations On A Theme type of work for the 44 (so far) presidents?

For some reason, this idea strikes me like it would be interesting, and perhaps quite entertaining to listen to.

greg

44 variations? That'd end up being a bit long. I'd imagine at least an hour and a half.

Renfield

Quote from: G$ on January 29, 2009, 06:27:21 PM
44 variations? That'd end up being a bit long. I'd imagine at least an hour and a half.

Well, there's a lot of presidents to account for!

greg

Maybe I'll write my own, except within 5 minutes. But I'm warning you, it just might end up sounding a little bit schizophrenic.  8)

Florestan

Quote from: Renfield on January 29, 2009, 06:22:44 PM
Secondly, and on topic, how about a Variations On A Theme type of work for the 44 (so far) presidents?

It would take a lot of hard work and imagination to go from Yankee Doodle (var. 1) to Dies Irae (var. 43).  ;D
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy