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Re: How did GMG begin?
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2009, 11:49:56 AM »
Rob, please be assured I wasn't blaming you or anyone / anything for the loss of archives. It's just one of those things that happen over time. I think in the beginning (2003 / 2004) we were just exhilarated and assumed we were writing these posts for eternity or its internet equivalent. By now most people are wiser, but certainly not sadder.

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Re: How did GMG begin?
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2009, 11:59:43 AM »
The database still exists (and the data is still there), but I do not have the database skills to repair it. (anyone??)

I would like to emphasize this part. Any volunteers for the job would be proclaimed forum heros upon successful restoration - an overwhelming honour - and I'm sure some medals will be handed out as well.  8)

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Re: How did GMG begin?
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2009, 12:17:19 PM »
Herman brings up something interesting.

We have had correspondence that told us much about life and culture in the past.  Now that we have transitioned to electronic correspondence over ink and paper, we are in danger of loosing the bulk of what we've written.  Future generations might not have the same window into our generation, that we've had in past generations.

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Re: How did GMG begin?
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2009, 12:17:47 PM »

The forum was very rudimentary, with very few features. It had a single "board" and members of guests could post a message and get replies, but that was about it. No PM's, no images, no moderators, and a very garish colour scheme (hey, I still like it).

sorry to bring it up  >:D... as i seem to recall didn't you allow a forum vote to decide on it, and the consensus was for this more pastoral option.. :D

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Re: How did GMG begin?
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2009, 12:19:23 PM »
Rob's original GMG was mainly a board for newbies, as I recall. Then -   I'm not sure whether it was 2003 or 2004  -  a whole bunch of refugees from CMG moved to GMG. (Gurn, Todd, Lilas, Tony / Ezodisy, DavidW, me, many others) Since these guys were a little more sophisticated GMG changed a little, and the board got subdivided into the three or four sections of the Music Room, as I recall. There was a huge increase in traffic, too. There were enormous threads on Haydn, Chopin, and of course Beethoven, with a very high level of information and (kindly) passion. A bunch of guys from the NYT music forum joined (Karl among others), upping the chatter level and the Diner was created. There was a brief period ACDouglas graced our boards. Eric, at that point was a psychotherapist with a peculiar sense of smell, I seem to recall. (And a love of Debussy's Faun, obviously.) After long debates moderators were instituted, which only seemed to make matters worse. I think it's fair to say GMG is a much more peaceable kingdom now than three years ago.

i also remember that Steve Molman, another on the roll call of knowledgeable sophisticates, was also a forum member for a brief period when GMG started out..  :)

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Re: How did GMG begin?
« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2009, 01:19:53 PM »


I heard that Prince was a member back in the day.  ;D

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Re: How did GMG begin?
« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2009, 01:22:52 PM »
i also remember that Steve Molman, another on the roll call of knowledgeable sophisticates, was also a forum member for a brief period when GMG started out..  :)


Oh yes, I wasn't giving a exhaustive list of names (plus some people have changed their handles, like Lilas).

I remember Molman was mad at me for a week or so, about some moderation thing. His musical advice was excellent. Wonder what he's up to currently.


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Re: How did GMG begin?
« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2009, 02:05:10 PM »
i also remember that Steve Molman, another on the roll call of knowledgeable sophisticates, was also a forum member for a brief period when GMG started out..  :)


We came over by the dozens back then.  Only a few of us are still here posting. :-\

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Re: How did GMG begin?
« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2009, 02:11:38 PM »
We came over by the dozens back then.  Only a few of us are still here posting. :-\

Yes, probably a dozen or so. Even so, 5-6 years is a long time for a core group in the Internet society nowadays. Hell, a year or two is a long time! :o

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Re: How did GMG begin?
« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2009, 02:12:43 PM »
Rob, please be assured I wasn't blaming you or anyone / anything for the loss of archives. It's just one of those things that happen over time. I think in the beginning (2003 / 2004) we were just exhilarated and assumed we were writing these posts for eternity or its internet equivalent. By now most people are wiser, but certainly not sadder.

Thanks for those pics!

I didn't think you were blaming me. But, as I recall, the fault was caused by a sloppy database upgrade by me, so I do take responsibility for the loss of the old forum.

I am sure it is still recoverable, because the data is all there. All I need is someone with mySQL skills to help me repair the database. Then I could make the old forum a read-only archive, and have this forum still active.

I have tried repairing it myself, but the fault is beyond my skill level.

Volunteers - submit resume below.

cheers
Rob
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Re: How did GMG begin?
« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2009, 02:15:54 PM »
Yes, probably a dozen or so. Even so, 5-6 years is a long time for a core group in the Internet society nowadays. Hell, a year or two is a long time! :o

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Yeah internet years = dog years. :D

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Re: How did GMG begin?
« Reply #31 on: January 31, 2009, 03:03:17 PM »
I didn't think you were blaming me. But, as I recall, the fault was caused by a sloppy database upgrade by me, so I do take responsibility for the loss of the old forum.

I am sure it is still recoverable, because the data is all there. All I need is someone with mySQL skills to help me repair the database. Then I could make the old forum a read-only archive, and have this forum still active.

I have tried repairing it myself, but the fault is beyond my skill level.

Volunteers - submit resume below.

cheers
Rob

May I tentatively suggest you request the help of a very talented chap at the R3OK forum? He's the rather ecentric member going by the name of Sydney Grew, and he has single-handledly effected a working offline recovery version of an SMF forum which would otherwise have disappeared forever into the cyber-ether following the collapse of the hosting firm. To give you an idea of what Mr Grew pulled off, read this thread.

FK

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Re: How did GMG begin?
« Reply #32 on: January 31, 2009, 03:57:42 PM »
Oh, he's made himself eccentric here on one or two occasions, FK  8)

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Re: How did GMG begin?
« Reply #33 on: January 31, 2009, 04:03:08 PM »
Well, if he's also a member here, I'd suggest Rob approaches him. It can't hurt to ask. ;)

FK

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Re: How did GMG begin?
« Reply #34 on: January 31, 2009, 04:06:31 PM »
True enow!

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Re: How did GMG begin?
« Reply #35 on: January 31, 2009, 04:09:33 PM »
May I tentatively suggest you request the help of a very talented chap at the R3OK forum? He's the rather ecentric member going by the name of Sydney Grew, and he has single-handledly effected a working offline recovery version of an SMF forum which would otherwise have disappeared forever into the cyber-ether following the collapse of the hosting firm. To give you an idea of what Mr Grew pulled off, read this thread.

Eccolo.

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Re: How did GMG begin?
« Reply #36 on: January 31, 2009, 04:32:51 PM »

Brünnhilde forever

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Re: How did GMG begin?
« Reply #37 on: January 31, 2009, 06:34:36 PM »
It must have been in 2002 or very early 2003 when news of a new classical music forum reached the New York Times and it's posters in the Classical Music - CMF - and the Opera - OF - sections. A number of New Yorkers stuck their toes in to test the GMG water, but didn't like the thread format, they were more comfortable in what I call their Kaffeeklatsch version.

I have searched my memory for some time now and still can come up with only three former New Yorkers now happy at GMG:

Karl Henning, Mark Simon, and I, nee uffeviking. There was ACD but he didn't stay long.

If I missed any, you'll certainly correct me!  ;)

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Re: How did GMG begin?
« Reply #38 on: January 31, 2009, 06:54:13 PM »
Yeah you forgot Pinkie!  I think he might have been banned from CMG at that time for being crazed and annoying, so I would consider him an NYT poster (he posted on both forums). ;D

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Re: How did GMG begin?
« Reply #39 on: January 31, 2009, 07:34:39 PM »
Please refresh my memory, David, who is Pinkie?  ???