Emil Gilels

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Peregrine

#20
Quote from: Holden on February 06, 2009, 05:29:54 PM
32 Variations in C minor WoO 80 (EMI)

There's a fab live version of this on one of the Melodiya box sets. Gilels roars through the piece, very exciting!

Yes, we have no bananas

Mandryka

#21
Quote from: aquariuswb on February 06, 2009, 12:57:58 PM
Gilels' "Hammerklavier" — do you love it or hate it?

>:D

There's a live Gilels Hammerklavier first movement on youtube -- I think a comment says it's from the brilliant box. Does anyone know the whole thing? I think it sounds excellent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfishyZbcjw

I like Gilels studio Hammerklavier -- but I prefer Gould. And I also love Brendel's live performance from Vienna on Phillips.

Does anyone like Schnabel's Hammerklavier?
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

Mandryka

#22
Quote from: Holden on February 06, 2009, 05:29:54 PM
Gilels is in my top 5 of all time. There are recordings of his that I consider indispensible and it's his consistency the at times translates into genius that make him so special for me. Those recordings are:

LvB:
Op 28 (DG),
Op 53 (Live in Aix-enProvence 1966)
Op 57 live in Moscow 1961
Op 81a (DG)
32 Variations in C minor WoO 80 (EMI)

PC #4 (Ludwig/Philharmonia)

Saint-Saens: PC # 2 (Cluytens)
Schubert: Moments Musicaux
Schumann: Nachtstucke Op 23
Grieg: Lyric Pieces
Brahms: PC#1 (Bohm)
Brahms: Fantasiestucke Op 116
Mozart Concerto for 2 pianos K365 (With Elizaveta Gilels)
Tchaikovsky Piano trio in A minor (scratchy MP3 copy)

I agree with you about the Russian Waldstien, but can you give me a link to the Aix Appassionata?. I have never heard of it.

Is that your top PC4? I like it very much, but I want to find the greatest PC4 ever.

Do you prefer Gilels' Grieg to Richter's. I only have the Richter, and I'm wondering whether to get the Gilels too (silly question really!)
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sporkadelic

Quote from: Mandryka on February 06, 2009, 10:45:59 PM
Do you prefer Gilels' Grieg to Richter's. I only have the Richter, and I'm wondering whether to get the Gilels too (silly question really!)

I don't have the Richter, but the Gilels disc is wonderful.  The two pianists make different selections anyway, so having both would not be a complete duplication of repertoire.

Peregrine

Quote from: Mandryka on February 06, 2009, 10:35:23 PM
Does anyone like Schnabel's Hammerklavier?

Yes, very much so. Schnabel, Richter, Pollini and Gilels would be my favourites here.
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val

I saw Gilels in concert. Sometimes he seemed distant, almost absent. But when he was deeply inspired it was un unforgettable experience.
The same with his recordings.

My favorites are:

Beethoven:  Sonata opus 106 / Piano Concerto n. 4 with Leopold Ludwig

Brahms: Fantasies opus 116 (recording of 1983) / Piano Concerto n. 2 with Jochum

Prokofiev:  Sonata n. 8

Schumann:  Nachtstücke

Grieg:  Lyric Pieces (anthology)

Tchaikovsky:  2nd Piano Concerto with Kondrashin


Peregrine

#26
Rachmaninoff, Prelude Op.23/5

http://www.youtube.com/v/VXU7I_Yyi2Y
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samuel

His Brahms 2 with Reiner/CSO from the 1950s is still, in my opinion, one of the greatest concerto recordings ever made. Superior in virtually every aspect compared to his sluggish remake with Jochum.

Que

I'm generally speaking not a Gilels fan, but his Tchaikovsky no.1 with Reiner is terrific: a rather "classical" and intelligent reading which is not overdone in terms of sentimentality or virtuosity, as is often the case.



Q

Renfield

#29
I "swear by" Gilels' Beethoven 4th with Ludwig; and I love his Brahms with Jochum, especially the 1st concerto, and the Grieg Lyric Pieces.

Otherwise, I also appreciate his Waldstein as an accomplishment, as well as the Hammerklavier to some extent...

But I wouldn't say he's one of my favourite pianists in general. :)

George

Quote from: Holden on February 06, 2009, 05:29:54 PM
Gilels is in my top 5 of all time. There are recordings of his that I consider indispensible and it's his consistency the at times translates into genius that make him so special for me. Those recordings are:

LvB:
Op 28 (DG)...


Inspired by your recommendation, I listened to the Pastoral sonata from this box:



My first listen to this performance last year made me think it was way too slow for Allegro in the first movement, but taken on its own terms, it is a gorgeously played and recorded performance. You are absolutely right.  :)

I bet Tony and Sarge would love this one.

Coopmv

Quote from: George on February 07, 2009, 06:47:05 AM
Inspired by your recommendation, I listened to the Pastoral sonata from this box:



My first listen to this performance last year made me think it was way too slow for Allegro in the first movement, but taken on its own terms, it is a gorgeously played and recorded performance. You are absolutely right.  :)

I bet Tony and Sarge would love this one.

If I find the time, I need to re-listen to this set.  I breezed through this set last year when it arrived and have never played any of its CD's again ...

George

Quote from: Coopmv on February 07, 2009, 07:46:14 AM
If I find the time, I need to re-listen to this set.  I breezed through this set last year when it arrived and have never played any of its CD's again ...

Start with that Pastoral sonata. A unique and gorgeous performance.

Coopmv

Quote from: George on February 07, 2009, 07:50:04 AM
Start with that Pastoral sonata. A unique and gorgeous performance.

Absolutely.  But the objective for later this month or March is to grab that Annie Fischer's set once Qualiton starts running its annual sales ...

aquablob

Quote from: Coopmv on February 07, 2009, 08:00:13 AM
Absolutely.  But the objective for later this month or March is to grab that Annie Fischer's set once Qualiton starts running its annual sales ...

Yeah, I still need to get her set, too. Expectations will be very high, what with George's, Todd's, and some others' ravings!

George

Quote from: aquariuswb on February 07, 2009, 09:07:13 AM
Yeah, I still need to get her set, too. Expectations will be very high, what with George's, Todd's, and some others' ravings!

For me, Annie is #1 in 13 out of the 32


George


Coopmv

Quote from: George on February 07, 2009, 09:13:16 AM
For me, Annie is #1 in 13 out of the 32

There is a chance I may reach 7-8 sets of Beethoven Piano Sonatas.  I am not sure if there are more than this number of sets worth collecting.  I already have the sets by Kempff and Gilels while the set by Gulda is on its way.  Add in the Annie Fischer's set, I will have 4 sets.  Are there other sets that are worth collecting?

George

Quote from: Coopmv on February 07, 2009, 09:41:15 AM
There is a chance I may reach 7-8 sets of Beethoven Piano Sonatas.  I am not sure if there are more than this number of sets worth collecting.  I already have the sets by Kempff and Gilels while the set by Gulda is on its way.  Add in the Annie Fischer's set, I will have 4 sets.  Are there other sets that are worth collecting?

So we don't go further off-topic, I will respond via PM.  :)