If the GMG regulars were record label owners

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Ken B

Quote from: Brian on September 07, 2015, 12:23:16 PM
I think both of them together would fit on one CD...

No La Mer!

Unless it's played by an all kazoo orchestra.

Jo498

Yes, the (modern) Schuppanzigh Quartett should record all Beethoven quartets on old instruments. I am not sure but I think op. 59,1+2, 127, 131 and 130/133 have never been recorded on period instruments. And if I am not imagining an op.132 with the Collegium Aureum quartet that recording is 40 years old and LP only. The Quatuor Mosaiques have played op.130/133 in concert but recorded only op.18.
op.18, the cello sonatas, the two famous violin sonatas and a few trios are the only Beethoven chamber music somewhat well covered by PI recordings.

There are very few PI Schubert string quartets either, no D 887 and no Quartettsatz to my knowledge and only a couple or so of the early quartets, about two of the a minor and d minor quartets.
PI Mozart quartets are mostly unavailable (and I am not sure all the early ones were recorded in this fashion), the same holds for the two late quintets.

It's quite amazing: There are more PI Schumann symphony cycles than Mozart mature string quartets and quintets.
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Pat B

Quote from: Jo498 on September 07, 2015, 02:08:51 PM
Yes, the (modern) Schuppanzigh Quartett should record all Beethoven quartets on old instruments. I am not sure but I think op. 59,1+2, 127, 131 and 130/133 have never been recorded on period instruments. And if I am not imagining an op.132 with the Collegium Aureum quartet that recording is 40 years old and LP only. The Quatuor Mosaiques have played op.130/133 in concert but recorded only op.18.
op.18, the cello sonatas, the two famous violin sonatas and a few trios are the only Beethoven chamber music somewhat well covered by PI recordings.

There are very few PI Schubert string quartets either, no D 887 and no Quartettsatz to my knowledge and only a couple or so of the early quartets, about two of the a minor and d minor quartets.
PI Mozart quartets are mostly unavailable (and I am not sure all the early ones were recorded in this fashion), the same holds for the two late quintets.

It's quite amazing: There are more PI Schumann symphony cycles than Mozart mature string quartets and quintets.

I don't worry too much about number of recordings. One is enough, if it's good and available.

Beethoven: I think you are right about the 5 quartets. There's a recent op.132 by Terpsycordes. I just spotified it. It's good. Aside from the quartets, the gaps are mostly arrangements of other works, or WoO. Pat B Records would attempt to reissue Castle Trio's op.70 from Smithsonian (other recordings are readily available of #1 but not #2).

Schubert: The Skalholt Quartet have done D887 and the Quartettsatz, and the Edding Quartet have also done the Quartettsatz, but I think all of these could be bettered.

There are a couple of Haydn symphonies (79 and 81 IIRC) that haven't been done yet. Antonini has a cycle underway, but who knows when he'll get to those, if indeed that project reaches completion. I'm pretty sure there are also some gaps in his chamber music.

A lot of mid- and late-Romantic era stuff hasn't been done. Some of the instruments had become modern by then, but gut strings were the norm until World War I.

Jo498

Thanks, I did not know about the quartet recordings you mention by Terpsychordes and others. Apparently the Mosaiques has played *all* the Beethoven quartets in concert but they have put out hardly any CDs in the last years.
FWIW I don't really miss PI Beethoven or Schubert quartets, I just think it is pretty odd that ~40 years after the Collegium Aureum chamber stuff of those composers there are still so many pieces missing in such recordings
Tout le malheur des hommes vient d'une seule chose, qui est de ne savoir pas demeurer en repos, dans une chambre.
- Blaise Pascal

kishnevi

Quote from: Jo498 on September 07, 2015, 02:08:51 PM
Yes, the (modern) Schuppanzigh Quartett should record all Beethoven quartets on old instruments. I am not sure but I think op. 59,1+2, 127, 131 and 130/133 have never been recorded on period instruments. And if I am not imagining an op.132 with the Collegium Aureum quartet that recording is 40 years old and LP only. The Quatuor Mosaiques have played op.130/133 in concert but recorded only op.18.
op.18, the cello sonatas, the two famous violin sonatas and a few trios are the only Beethoven chamber music somewhat well covered by PI recordings.

There are very few PI Schubert string quartets either, no D 887 and no Quartettsatz to my knowledge and only a couple or so of the early quartets, about two of the a minor and d minor quartets.
PI Mozart quartets are mostly unavailable (and I am not sure all the early ones were recorded in this fashion), the same holds for the two late quintets.

It's quite amazing: There are more PI Schumann symphony cycles than Mozart mature string quartets and quintets.

Immerseel has made two PI recordings of the complete violin sonatas, one on DHM with Jaap Schroder, and one much more recent with Midor Seiler.  I prefer the Schroder cycle.

North Star

Terpsycordes' D887 and Quartettsatz is released quite soon 8)
The people want PI recordings of the late Beethoven string quartets!
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snyprrr

Quote from: Bogey on September 03, 2015, 06:21:38 PM
If had a record label it would be exclusively spy/crime music played in movies and television, but played exclusively by bands and orchestras that did not originally record it, but put their own spin on it. 

Believe it or not, Harmonia Mundi tried one recently and I hope they continue to roll them out.



Occasionally I would release a special cd where groups could also record spy/crime music that never was used for tv or movies, but to the unattended ear one would assume that it had been.

My band does a 20 minute 'Dragnet Medley'


20 minutes ;)... name it

Pat B

Quote from: North Star on September 08, 2015, 12:23:41 PM
Terpsycordes' D887 and Quartettsatz is released quite soon 8)

Excellent! They put two live performances of Quartettsatz on youtube, which I prefer to the Skalholt and Edding recordings. And this is the coupling I need (I have Festetics in D804 and Mosaiques in D810).

Re: Beethoven Violin Sonatas. I spotified Schröder (5 and 9) and sampled Seiler (both with Immerseel) and passed on both. I wish he had done them (or at least a selection) with Vera Beths. I'm happy with Fleezanis-Huvé though. There's also a PI cycle on Denon, and one on Globe, though what I've heard of the latter sounds more conventional to me. The relevant point here is that these works are much better served than the quartets.

Brian

Found this old thread from 7 years ago while searching for something else, and thought that it would be fun to bump and see what people think now.  8)

Todd

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vandermolen

Vandermolen Records would focus on releasing on CD recordings which currently only exist on LP, including:

Klaus Egge: Symphony No.1 conducted by Gruner-Hegge

Gordon Jacob: Concerto for Two Pianos

Bax: Symphony No.3 LSO Downes

Khachaturian: Symphony No.1 (LSO, Tjknavorian)

+ I would focus on recording works by living composers such as 'Dona Nobis Pacem' by Andrew Campling - also the works of GMG Forum composers.

I expect that my label would soon go bust due to the absence of popular classics, but that would be my aim.
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Que

Quote from: Marc on September 05, 2015, 02:14:14 AM
Then, I would reissue both (now OOP) Ewald Kooiman's and Bram Beekman's Bach organ boxsets from respectively Coronata and Lindenberg Music.

Quote from: Jo498 on September 07, 2015, 02:08:51 PM
Yes, the (modern) Schuppanzigh Quartett should record all Beethoven quartets on old instruments.

Unfortunately, neither of these whishes have come true sofar...

I would add to the wishlist: the complete keyboard works of Soler by Bob van Asperen.

In general, as a record label I would buy the Naïve and some other, smaller back catalogues and start delving for reissues.

Spotted Horses

Hopefully my record label could stave off bankruptcy long enough to issue complete Bacewicz and Maconchy editions.

k a rl h e nn i ng

Quote from: Spotted Horses on August 05, 2022, 01:55:23 AM
Hopefully my record label could stave off bankruptcy long enough to issue complete Bacewicz and Maconchy editions.

Nice!
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Irons

If I won the lottery I would buy the Supraphon back catalogue of chamber music. I would then hire the best remastering engineers and repackage in the most attractive way. I would lose a packet but doesn't matter as I have just won the lottery. 8) 
You must have a very good opinion of yourself to write a symphony - John Ireland.

Pohjolas Daughter

Quote from: Irons on August 05, 2022, 08:32:23 AM
If I won the lottery I would buy the Supraphon back catalogue of chamber music. I would then hire the best remastering engineers and repackage in the most attractive way. I would lose a packet but doesn't matter as I have just won the lottery. 8)
+1  Though I would also add in some orchestral music too.  ;D

PD

DavidW

The absolutely complete Haydn edition

The Simpson edition

And then mostly just hit those baroque era and modern era composers that are sparsely recorded.

San Antone

Making only period instrument recordings, from Medieval to late-19th early-20th century composers.  Complete series.

Papy Oli

2019 - launches a label specialised in English composers.
2020 - scraps the catalogue and re-specialises in French composers
2021 - scraps the catalogue and re-specialises in JS Bach and Baroque
2022 - scraps the catalogue and re-specialises in Operas

I have no idea what I am doing in this job...

:P
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