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Re: Cato's Grammar Grumble
« Reply #4720 on: August 30, 2020, 09:32:47 AM »
RIP the letter "d" in "supposed". It had a good run, but the end is near, so we might as well pay our respects now. It will be joining its brother, the fallen "d" in "iced cream".  :blank:

Oh was it "iced cream" originally? How about “it is supposed to be” though?
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Re: Cato's Grammar Grumble
« Reply #4721 on: September 10, 2020, 01:30:42 PM »
Considering the more vital ways in which journalists are letting us down, the verbal slips may sem unimportant, but:
"Senate Republicans attempted to pass a more narrow coronavirus stimulus bill..." What, never heard of narrower?
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« Reply #4722 on: September 10, 2020, 03:50:01 PM »
Considering the more vital ways in which journalists are letting us down, the verbal slips may sem unimportant, but:
"Senate Republicans attempted to pass a more narrow coronavirus stimulus bill..." What, never heard of narrower?

I cringe more and more at seeing the word "more" instead of the "-er" ending for Comparative Adjectives.  A similar problem is evident with "most" and the Superlative.  e.g.  "Most stupid" instead of "stupidest."

I am also cringing more at the use of Ā, as in "late," for the pronunciation of the Indefinite Article.  e.g. "That is Ā new car."  :o ??? :'(  There are several Blondie Bubbleheads on the local T.V. news who use this monstrosity almost constantly.
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« Reply #4723 on: September 30, 2020, 10:55:10 AM »
A machine-printed - not hand-written - sign seen recently at a grocery store:

"Coupons cant be used for shipt items."

To be sure, the second is the more grievous error, but both make us wonder: "Did the computer really not have Spell-Check?!"

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« Reply #4724 on: September 30, 2020, 11:18:30 AM »
Part II:

And we have this sign at a local Taco Bell restaurant:

             FREE JOBS!

Truly this puzzling sign fathers at least a few questions:

How many people are paying a company so that they may have the privilege of working there?  I know that I would gladly pay my school for the wonderful experiences of teaching students and  70+ hour weeks!  Yet, mirabile creditu, the Catholic Church in fact pays me to work there!   0:)

Are there jobs with entrance fees?  I know that with certain positions e.g. The Mafia, there are entrance tests involving the disposal of wise guys, but a fee?

Is the word "volunteer" perhaps more appropriate?   I do know some people who would work at Taco Bell just to be able to sample the food or smell the aromas.  And we all know, as we go through Life, we should take time to stop and smell the quesos!   8)
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Re: Cato's Grammar Grumble
« Reply #4725 on: November 21, 2020, 10:41:32 PM »
Our local Indian restaurant has a beautifully printed sign in the window - “Allergies and intolerance available on request. Please ask any member of staff”. ;D
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« Reply #4726 on: February 06, 2021, 04:08:25 AM »
Maybe of interest, maybe not

https://theoatmeal.com/comics/misspelling
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« Reply #4727 on: February 07, 2021, 08:16:43 AM »
Maybe of interest, maybe not

https://theoatmeal.com/comics/misspelling

I didn't get this one: There is no A in "definitely". Can someone please explain it to me?



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Re: Cato's Grammar Grumble
« Reply #4728 on: February 07, 2021, 08:21:10 AM »
I didn't get this one: There is no A in "definitely". Can someone please explain it to me?
I think I’ve seen it spelled “definately” or even “definatly”

And then, I’ve many times heard “nuclear” pronounced “nukelar” (even by one of my professors at the University of Chicago!  ::))...
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Re: Cato's Grammar Grumble
« Reply #4729 on: February 07, 2021, 08:41:32 AM »
I think I’ve seen it spelled “definatly”...

That's the problem with etymological spelling, even educated people can't have it right always. I was in France ca. 1999 and I asked a French Ph. D. candidate how to spell correctly, exercise or exercice. He scratched his head, took a pen, scribbled something and then told me: I believe it's exercice but I'm not sure. He was right, but there...  ;D

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And then, I’ve many times heard “nuclear” pronounced “nukelar” (even by one of my professors at the University of Chicago!  ::))...

I wonder how that professor would have pronounce Puccini. (Puke-seeny seems a good guess  :laugh: )
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Re: Cato's Grammar Grumble
« Reply #4730 on: February 07, 2021, 09:23:42 AM »
It’s very tempting for me to write definately as phonetically it’s more accurate than an i, I in fact sometimes have to remind myself of the etymology.

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« Reply #4731 on: February 07, 2021, 09:31:56 AM »
It’s very tempting for me to write definately as phonetically it’s more accurate than an i, I in fact sometimes have to remind myself of the etymology.

I've always pronounced it dee-fine-it-lee. Have I been wrong?
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« Reply #4732 on: February 07, 2021, 09:38:29 AM »
I've always pronounced it dee-fine-it-lee. Have I been wrong?

Def-in-ut-lee for me.
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« Reply #4733 on: February 07, 2021, 09:40:07 AM »
Def-in-it-lee for me.
You might be just right, now that I think of it.

But then again, how do you pronounce define? Dee-fine, or Def-in?

But then again again, English pronunciation is the most illogical and counterintuitive of all the languages I can speak or read.  :laugh:
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« Reply #4734 on: February 07, 2021, 09:41:19 AM »
You might be just right, now that I think of it.

Sorry, meant to put Def-in-ut-lee.
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« Reply #4735 on: February 07, 2021, 09:45:32 AM »
Def-in-ut-lee.

Oh, dear! That's really counterintuitive.  :D


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« Reply #4736 on: February 07, 2021, 10:19:23 AM »
But then again, how do you pronounce define? Dee-fine, or Def-in?

But then again again, English pronunciation is the most illogical and counterintuitive of all the languages I can speak or read.  :laugh:

Dif-ine although you should bear in mind that the primary function of any language is to identify the foreigners. ;)
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« Reply #4737 on: February 07, 2021, 10:43:53 AM »
Dif-ine although you should bear in mind that the primary function of any language is to identify the foreigners. ;)

 :D :D :D

Okay, how would you pronounce this:

În patria noastră multe păduri sunt.

The above is a legit, grammatically correct Romanian sentence which differs from the original Latin by one word* and two diacritics only.  ;)

* this one word being of Latin origin as well

Original Latin: In patria nostra multae silvae sunt,
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Re: Cato's Grammar Grumble
« Reply #4738 on: February 07, 2021, 01:39:16 PM »
I didn't get this one: There is no A in "definitely". Can someone please explain it to me?





As with many of the other examples, a too-common spelling error, among native speakers.
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« Reply #4739 on: February 07, 2021, 06:37:56 PM »
Dif-ine although you should bear in mind that the primary function of any language is to identify the foreigners. ;)

I pronounce it deh-fine.

:D :D :D

Okay, how would you pronounce this:

În patria noastră multe păduri sunt.

The above is a legit, grammatically correct Romanian sentence which differs from the original Latin by one word* and two diacritics only.  ;)

* this one word being of Latin origin as well

Original Latin: In patria nostra multae silvae sunt,


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