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Re: Cato's Grammar Grumble
« Reply #4820 on: June 15, 2022, 10:53:05 AM »
I am temporarily in the center of Ohio, home of certain television reporters who are very inept with the English language.

This morning - (and I am not making this up, sadly) - a 30-something, becoming the victim of a scrambled vocabulary on camera, used the following word quite naturally, as if he had used it often:


"...un-understansible.
 

I believe the full statement was similar to: "Everybody seemed to like Jack's Restaurant.   Why it closed down is just un-understansible!"


While this curious coinage is comprestandible, I suspect it will not catch on!   8)


 
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Re: Cato's Grammar Grumble
« Reply #4821 on: June 15, 2022, 11:37:39 AM »
It baffles Science!
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« Reply #4822 on: June 15, 2022, 01:59:50 PM »

It baffles Science!


Ah yes, it does indeed! 



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« Reply #4823 on: June 17, 2022, 10:42:37 AM »
How do you un-un something ? 🧐

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« Reply #4824 on: June 17, 2022, 12:43:43 PM »
How do you un-un something ? 🧐

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« Reply #4825 on: June 17, 2022, 01:16:30 PM »
Although in this case the un is part of "under", so one under-stands something.
It might help to point to the German verb meaning "understand" is verstehen, while the verb meaning "stand" is stehen.

This does raise the question why we don't refer to lack of understanding as overstanding. Such are the quirks of English.

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« Reply #4826 on: June 17, 2022, 01:27:49 PM »
Sometimes, avoiding quirkiness is an underarching consideration.

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« Reply #4827 on: June 18, 2022, 05:14:58 AM »
A few years ago, for the sake of filling in the gaps in the periodic table, the as yet undiscovered chemical elements up to 118 were given temporary names such as Ununtrium (113), Ununpentium (115), Ununseptium (117) and Ununoctium (118). These are now known as Nihonium, Moscovium, Tennessine and Oganesson.

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« Reply #4828 on: June 18, 2022, 05:21:12 AM »
A few years ago, for the sake of filling in the gaps in the periodic table, the as yet undiscovered chemical elements up to 118 were given temporary names such as Ununtrium (113), Ununpentium (115), Ununseptium (117) and Ununoctium (118). These are now known as Nihonium, Moscovium, Tennessine and Oganesson.

At a semi-wild guess, I wonder if Tennessine is associated with the Oak Ridge labs....
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Re: Cato's Grammar Grumble
« Reply #4829 on: June 18, 2022, 05:40:56 AM »
A few years ago, for the sake of filling in the gaps in the periodic table, the as yet undiscovered chemical elements up to 118 were given temporary names such as Ununtrium (113), Ununpentium (115), Ununseptium (117) and Ununoctium (118). These are now known as Nihonium, Moscovium, Tennessine and Oganesson.

That's where David Cameron must have taken the inspiration for his Unobtainium from...  ;D
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« Reply #4830 on: June 18, 2022, 05:46:41 AM »
At a semi-wild guess, I wonder if Tennessine is associated with the Oak Ridge labs....

Yes, didn’t know you were into nuclear physics Karl. ;)

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« Reply #4831 on: June 18, 2022, 05:54:06 AM »
Yes, didn’t know you were into nuclear physics Karl. ;)

No, but a previous girlfriend hailed from Oak Ridge. She was nuclear by association :)
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« Reply #4832 on: June 18, 2022, 05:58:20 AM »
No, but a previous girlfriend hailed from Oak Ridge. She was nuclear by association :)

I presume you two had some hot fusions...  ;)
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« Reply #4833 on: June 28, 2022, 11:19:18 AM »
A good article, but the headline manages to mis-parse Henry V.

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« Reply #4834 on: July 05, 2022, 07:40:40 AM »
Although in this case the un is part of "under", so one under-stands something.
It might help to point to the German verb meaning "understand" is verstehen, while the verb meaning "stand" is stehen.

This does raise the question why we don't refer to lack of understanding as overstanding. Such are the quirks of English.

A language with very derstandable rules, perhaps.
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« Reply #4835 on: July 15, 2022, 04:21:30 AM »
From an article about a Broadway brouhaha:

"... We found the few good things people had said, stood by her, and kept going. The critics were not wrong, but we tried to major on (her) sweetness and innocence..."

 ??? ??? ??? "to major on"

In a university or college you can major in a subject.  Obviously that is a completely different context.

And so, what is wrong with "we tried to focus on (or upon)..." ?

Broadway slang of some sort?  If so, it fails our tests of wit and nuance!   0:)   8)
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« Reply #4836 on: July 15, 2022, 04:34:41 AM »
Woof!
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« Reply #4837 on: August 05, 2022, 04:03:59 AM »
On the BBC News website today:

"Four Vietnamese men missing after mill fire named"

Not really a subject for jokes, I appreciate, but I do wonder what they named it.
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« Reply #4838 on: August 05, 2022, 05:33:21 AM »
(* chortle *)
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