Cato's Grammar Grumble

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Ghost of Baron Scarpia

Quote from: André on December 08, 2018, 09:07:49 AM


Columbia is proud to advertise this as a nonbeakable record (bottom right). Aren't records supposed to be broken ?

Shellac records were, not the newfangled vinyl LP's, apparently.

Ken B

Quote from: Ghost of Baron Scarpia on December 13, 2018, 08:03:12 AM
Shellac records were, not the newfangled vinyl LP's, apparently.
Shellac was better than vinyl! So much warmer.  ::)

Cato

Quote from: Ken B on December 13, 2018, 08:31:20 AM
Shellac was better than vinyl! So much warmer::)

Riiight!!!  ;)  I will take the lack of scratches, blips, bloops, and static of CD's any day!

Speaking of which, my first CD (London label: Ashkenazy conducting Schoenberg's Verklaerte Nacht and Wagner's Siegfried Idyll is now over 30 years old, and sounds great!
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

Ghost of Baron Scarpia

Quote from: Ken B on December 13, 2018, 08:31:20 AM
Shellac was better than vinyl! So much warmer.  ::)

I just read that the first gramophone records Emil Berliner tried to market were made of rubber.

Ken B

Quote from: Ghost of Baron Scarpia on December 13, 2018, 11:00:19 AM
I just read that the first gramophone records Emil Berliner tried to market were made of rubber.
You haven't lived until you've heard gutta-percha cylinders.

Mandryka

Quote from: JBS on December 12, 2018, 01:44:15 PM
Motivated by a post from Facebook.
Are people actually using "chef" as a verb? As in "Norma's Diner has been cheffed by Harvey for the last ten years."

A similar thing happened in French when Jacques Chirac said, to the astonishment and amusement of everyone, un chef c'est fait pour cheffer
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

Cato

From last year: Wall Street Journal sports reporter Jason Gay on the curious phrase from American football on whether or not a player had caught the football, namely, "survive the ground."  Video "Instant Replay" is now used to adjudicate a disputed catch! 

Which things came to mind when we are at a movie theater yesterday and saw a preview for Liam Neeson's latest revenge epic.

W.S.J. Dec. 21, 2017:

QuoteThen the Replay Overlords intervened, and what very much looked like a catch became...

Not a catch.

The ruling on the replay was that the ball did not "Survive the Ground," which sounds like the title of a Liam Neeson movie.

BAD GUY: No! No don't throw me off this rooftop, Liam Neeson.

LIAM NEESON
: If you don't tell me where she is, you'll never...survive the ground.

;)
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

JBS

A bit ago, SimonNZ posted a book by Antonia Fraser, Perilous Question, which prompted me to get a copy to read from the library.

The illustrated plates begin with a portrait of William IV  in the full robes of the Garter, captioned thus:

William IV by Sir Martin Archer Shee, who came to the throne in July 1830, aged 65.

Hollywood Beach Broadwalk

Cato

Quote from: JBS on December 25, 2018, 08:50:37 AM
A bit ago, SimonNZ posted a book by Antonia Fraser, Perilous Question, which prompted me to get a copy to read from the library.

The illustrated plates begin with a portrait of William IV  in the full robes of the Garter, captioned thus:

William IV by Sir Martin Archer Shee, who came to the throne in July 1830, aged 65.

OY!  Good ol' antecedent and ending problems!  8)
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

Karl Henning

Clause without a verb.

Lock control at foot of bed when oxygen administering equipment.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

André

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 28, 2018, 08:54:00 AM
Clause without a verb.

Lock control at foot of bed when oxygen administering equipment.

You are getting fluent in Hospitalese, my friend  ;D.

Cato

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 28, 2018, 08:54:00 AM

Clause without a verb.

Lock control at foot of bed when oxygen administering equipment.



Quote from: André on December 28, 2018, 09:38:40 AM

You are getting fluent in Hospitalese, my friend  ;D.


:D

This reminded me of the old complaint about doctors' indecipherable handwriting.

The Ohio legislature recently voted to bring back penmanship instruction, because the latest research shows penmanship in the "digital age" is still crucial for eye-hand co-ordination, concentration, and reading.

See:

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0956797614524581


And:

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/2018/12/06/more-cursive-schools-ohio-bill-encourages-penmanship/2227029002/
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

Mandryka

#4572
If you look at premont's posts there's a fabulous thing he got from a hospital in Denmark

Tiden læger alle sår,
heldigt nok at tiden går.

Anyway it's very good to see these posts from Karl, long may the recuperation continue.
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

zamyrabyrd

Quote from: Cato on December 28, 2018, 03:45:53 PM

This reminded me of the old complaint about doctors' indecipherable handwriting.


Now of course, they use computers. There was some mumbo-jumbo in Latin on prescriptions back in the Old Days.
"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one."

― Charles MacKay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

Karl Henning

Quote from: zamyrabyrd on December 31, 2018, 08:56:58 PM
Now of course, they use computers. There was some mumbo-jumbo in Latin on prescriptions back in the Old Days.


And the challenge now is training the voice -recognition software
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Cato

Today in an antique shop I saw an actual Balalaika for sale.



Or was it?  Because the tag said it was...




BAKLAVA!!!   ;)   0:)
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

Ken B


Karl Henning

Another road where maybe I
Could see another kind of mind there.

Okay so I've only just noticed that "there" is superfluous.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

NikF4

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on February 16, 2019, 05:14:38 AM
Another road where maybe I
Could see another kind of mind there.

Okay so I've only just noticed that "there" is superfluous.

I often notice the same thing when people compose an image.  ;D

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot