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Re: Cato's Grammar Grumble
« Reply #340 on: March 09, 2009, 05:51:19 AM »
You writin' a opry, feller?

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« Reply #341 on: March 09, 2009, 05:52:09 AM »
You writin' a opry, feller?

That would be fun.

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« Reply #342 on: March 09, 2009, 12:13:58 PM »
Quote from: on cbs.com
He has campaigned for Sen. John McCain in 2008.

No, no, no.  The present perfect here is no good as of 1 Jan 09.

Faugh!  A major news website!

It has got to be cast in the simple past now: He campaigned for Sen. John McCain in 2008.

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Re: Cato's Grammar Grumble
« Reply #343 on: March 09, 2009, 12:52:18 PM »
Aye.

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« Reply #344 on: March 09, 2009, 12:58:56 PM »
No, no, no.  The present perfect here is no good as of 1 Jan 09.

Faugh!  A major news website!

It has got to be cast in the simple past now: He campaigned for Sen. John McCain in 2008.

The illiterati are everywhere and have infiltrated areas one would hope are still pristine!  But no: one can no longer trust "better" newspapers to have good grammar or style as one of their missions!

I used to send my students of History to find articles in 1920's newspapers, or even ones from the 19th century, and then had them compare those to our sorry examples of contemporary journalism.  And our complaint goes beyond the simple sycophantic proskinesis which the media performs nowadays before the hemidemisemi-Lincoln wannabe of the White House.  

Even their flattery is flat!   $:)  And when it isn't, it's laughable!   8)

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Re: Cato's Grammar Grumble
« Reply #345 on: March 10, 2009, 03:39:54 AM »
Under the idea that, once one starts grumbling about a problem, one's ears will suddenly hear more examples of that problem, we can file this incident from last night:

At a craft store where my wife has deposited our life's savings, she was politely chatting with the more than plump, bearded, lisping 20-something cashier about the vicissitudes of life these days, like the plague of bicephalous deer in Franklin County, when suddenly I heard:

"There was this woman that just buyed a whole bunch of frames..."

My mind echoed instantly: "Buyed???  Buyed??? BUYED???"
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« Reply #346 on: March 10, 2009, 04:36:11 AM »
"There was this woman that just buyed a whole bunch of frames..."

My mind echoed instantly: "Buyed???  Buyed??? BUYED???"

So that's not one you can abuyed?  ;)

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Re: Cato's Grammar Grumble
« Reply #347 on: March 10, 2009, 05:05:56 AM »
So that's not one you can abuyed?  ;)

Wocka Wocka!  And on top of that, I can't afford a Ford either!   8)
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Re: Cato's Grammar Grumble
« Reply #348 on: March 10, 2009, 05:12:36 AM »
Lord love a duck.

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« Reply #349 on: March 10, 2009, 05:23:43 AM »
Just heard on radio, during a talk about football:

It's useless to make a comparison between Fergusson [pause] Fergusson is different.
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« Reply #350 on: March 10, 2009, 05:28:25 AM »
Well, between you, Andrei, I see nothing wrong with that  ::)

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« Reply #351 on: March 10, 2009, 05:35:17 AM »
Both me don't, but still thought it was funner.
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Re: Cato's Grammar Grumble
« Reply #352 on: March 10, 2009, 06:38:11 AM »
Lord love a duck.

I saw that movie!  c. 1967?  One of the worst ever, except for Tuesday Weld in those sweaters!   :o

A girl named Tuesday!  Reminds one of G.K. Chesterton's The Man Who Was Thursday!

Of course, The Addams Family had the daughter named Wednesday!

Don't get me started on people who give their children weird names!   $:)

Karl: Where is that picture from?  East Germany?
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« Reply #353 on: March 10, 2009, 06:49:10 AM »
Outside the Fenway entrance of the MFA.

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« Reply #354 on: March 10, 2009, 08:44:25 AM »
Outside the Fenway entrance of the MFA.

Aha!  Is that the "monster" wall of legend?

Concerning "between" and "I" one must reiterate that "I" is always wrong with prepositions: "Just between you and me..."  The affected illiterati, who use "I" here in an attempt to sound very correct, end up of course sounding like schnooks.
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« Reply #355 on: March 10, 2009, 09:57:39 AM »
It is interesting that language development is mostly driven by the illiterate. How often do we see new words invented by those unaware that a perfectly good word exists already!
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A look—a word—and we are wholly changed.

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Re: Cato's Grammar Grumble
« Reply #356 on: March 10, 2009, 10:13:46 AM »
"Continuity IRA Shot Dead Officer"

Even when forced to limit a headline to 5 words, this reads strangely...
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Re: Cato's Grammar Grumble
« Reply #357 on: March 10, 2009, 02:46:39 PM »
It is interesting that language development is mostly driven by the illiterate. How often do we see new words invented by those unaware that a perfectly good word exists already!

I would change that to "deterioration" of course!   0:)
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Re: Cato's Grammar Grumble
« Reply #358 on: March 10, 2009, 05:31:19 PM »
To paraphrase Jeeves: There is no place where verbs do not matter.

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Re: Cato's Grammar Grumble
« Reply #359 on: March 10, 2009, 05:49:02 PM »
What Einstein said,
it does disturb,
how matter
can become a verb.'

Hah!

It's ancient usage, though, you know.

Somewhere I read a story that Sir Thomas More talked someone out of committing suicide by discussing the difference in grammar between nothing matters and nothing chatters.