People having 0% clue but who are 100% Blahblah Bullshit Experts

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Tapio Dmitriyevich

February 11, 2009, 08:45:37 AM Last Edit: February 11, 2009, 08:47:56 AM by Wurstwasser
Well, it's about some older guy (let's say, "Mr. Clueless") out of my family. His wife tells "yes, he's interested in Classical music sometimes" - well, I have never realized this. But this guy knows anything -at least he tells so.
Well, a couple of years ago I explained to him "It's Beethovens 3rd which is called 'Eroica'"- but he insisted on this being wrong. OK, I resigned and thought "it's alright, calm down, just Blahblah, this guy is not interested in music at all." He never appeared to be.

Last week, my wife had no time to go to concert with me. As it is an subscription, well, I asked several people, OK, now "Mr C." was the man.

Me: Schubert Sym9 (or 8 - "The Great") and Beethoven#7 is being played
Him: I'll go with you only if Beethoven is played!
(/me thinks: Oh, yeah, the clueless: BEETHOVEN GOOD! KARAJAN GOOD!)
Me: As I said, Beethoven 7. Along with Schubert. About the same style, not too modern...
Him: Then I'll come with you.
Him: Hmm. SCHUBERT IS SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM BEETHOVEN.
Me: Well, compared with, say, Shostakovich era... From their style I'd say they are comparable...
Him: SCHUBERT IS SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. COMPLETELY.

In my car, that evening...

(Shostakovich Sym. #4 is playing...)
HIM: Oh, what is this?
Me: Schubert Symphony No. 12
Him: Not what we listen to tonight?
Me: No no...

Huahahaa. :D :D :D :D :D :D

DavidRoss

#1
February 11, 2009, 09:02:26 AM
He should run for Congress, or get a job as a political analyst on network TV.  (I know you're not a Yank, but from what I've seen of life this phenomenon is universal.)
"Maybe the problem most of you have ... is that you're not listening to Barbirolli." ~Sarge

"The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money." ~Margaret Thatcher

eyeresist

#2
February 11, 2009, 04:55:08 PM
Are you sure he doesn't post in this forum? ;)

DavidRoss

#3
February 11, 2009, 05:31:15 PM
Quote from: eyeresist on February 11, 2009, 04:55:08 PM
Are you sure he doesn't post in this forum? ;)
Ack!  You found me out!
"Maybe the problem most of you have ... is that you're not listening to Barbirolli." ~Sarge

"The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money." ~Margaret Thatcher

eyeresist

#4
February 11, 2009, 06:36:05 PM
Heh. I saw an episode of "Beauty and the Geek" recently, where a prospective Beauty was stumped by the question "Who wrote Beethoven's fifth?"  Of course, being a geek, I was shouting at the screen "His fifth what?"

Tapio Dmitriyevich

#5
February 11, 2009, 08:07:29 PM
Quote from: eyeresist on February 11, 2009, 04:55:08 PMAre you sure he doesn't post in this forum? ;)
Yes. "No english,  no candies."

Florestan

#6
February 12, 2009, 12:12:40 AM
A Romanian songwriter, accused of composing music which has no artistic merit whatsoever, retorted:

Some people like my music, though; not everybody listens to Schopenhauer.

It's 100% true and recorded on camera.
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Wanderer

#7
February 12, 2009, 12:56:12 AM
I've been told that a Greek pop singer once claimed (s)he liked all 32 of Beethoven symphonies (or was it that (s)he enjoyed reading Schubert?).

The new erato

#8
February 12, 2009, 01:26:15 AM
If you think music is bad for Bullshitters, just wait till you get into wine!

sul G

#9
February 12, 2009, 06:00:20 AM
Quote from: Florestan on February 12, 2009, 12:12:40 AM
A Romanian songwriter, accused of composing music which has no artistic merit whatsoever, retorted:

Some people like my music, though; not everybody listens to Schopenhauer.

It's 100% true and recorded on camera.

Cynic.  ;D I'm sure he/she must actually have said Chopin 'n Hauer, referring, of course, to the 'other' Viennese originator of a twelve tone technique.

Florestan

#10
February 12, 2009, 06:01:04 AM
Quote from: sul G on February 12, 2009, 06:00:20 AM
Cynic.  ;D I'm sure he/she must actually have said Chopin 'n Hauer, referring, of course, to the 'other' Viennese originator of a twelve tone technique.

:D
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

sul G

#11
February 12, 2009, 06:02:29 AM
...and anyway, even if that's not quite right, the statement itself is correct - after all, when was the last time any of us listened to a nice bit of Schopenhauer?  ;D )

DavidRoss

#12
February 12, 2009, 08:15:54 AM
Quote from: eyeresist on February 11, 2009, 06:36:05 PM
Heh. I saw an episode of "Beauty and the Geek" recently, where a prospective Beauty was stumped by the question "Who wrote Beethoven's fifth?"  Of course, being a geek, I was shouting at the screen "His fifth what?"
And, having been trained in logical analysis and critical thinking, I whisper (not shout), "Why would it matter?"  ;D
"Maybe the problem most of you have ... is that you're not listening to Barbirolli." ~Sarge

"The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money." ~Margaret Thatcher

Florestan

#13
February 12, 2009, 08:23:44 AM
Quote from: sul G on February 12, 2009, 06:02:29 AM
...and anyway, even if that's not quite right, the statement itself is correct - after all, when was the last time any of us listened to a nice bit of Schopenhauer?  ;D )

Then the guy should have said : Hey, look, at least some people like my music while nobody listens to that old fart Schopenhauer!
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

karlhenning

#15
February 12, 2009, 09:18:25 AM
Schopenhauer got any books on CD?  Maybe read by Patrick Stewart?

karlhenning

#16
February 12, 2009, 09:19:34 AM
Quote from: sul G on February 12, 2009, 06:00:20 AM
. . . Chopin 'n Hauer, referring, of course, to the 'other' Viennese originator of a twelve tone technique.

Tchah!

Opus106

#17
February 12, 2009, 09:24:30 AM
Quote from: DavidRoss on February 12, 2009, 08:15:54 AM
And, having been trained in logical analysis and critical thinking, I whisper (not shout), "Why would it matter?"  ;D

If it's Beethoven's fifth biography, then it would. ;)
Regards,
Navneeth

DavidRoss

#18
February 12, 2009, 09:34:52 AM
Quote from: opus67 on February 12, 2009, 09:24:30 AM
If it's Beethoven's fifth biography, then it would. ;)
Lawyer, eh?
"Maybe the problem most of you have ... is that you're not listening to Barbirolli." ~Sarge

"The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money." ~Margaret Thatcher

Opus106

#19
February 12, 2009, 09:37:54 AM
Quote from: DavidRoss on February 12, 2009, 09:34:52 AM
Lawyer, eh?

;) Just the effect of interacting with other loop-hole finders, I guess.
Regards,
Navneeth
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