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Re: Gurn's Classical Corner
« Reply #540 on: June 17, 2009, 07:32:26 AM »
I heard some string quartets by Rosetti and they put me to sleep :/

In the good way, or the bad way? ???

btw- what is UP with those craaazy CPO covers??? :o Not very "classical"!

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« Reply #541 on: June 17, 2009, 07:33:37 AM »
And no one's heard those Albrechtsberger SQs?

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« Reply #542 on: June 17, 2009, 08:37:09 AM »
And no one's heard those Albrechtsberger SQs?


So you won't be surprised. ;D It is a very good CD, a good purchase for anyone interested in Haydn's or Mozart's quartets. They are not in the front line of the most excellent quartets of the period, but they are beautifully written. Even if Albrechtsberger was famous as teacher of counterpoint, he doesn't display any exaggerated profusion of it: these are austere works that invite for a pleasant listening. A very pleasant one, I'd say.

It was a very beautiful experience. When thinking that Haydn said (to Hummel I guess) that everything that was beautiful came from God, it was inevitable to link all the trip to Haydn's very religious approach to life: the visit to his mausoleum, the performance of Die Schöpfung - a religious composition -, and so on. :)

Here is what Gabriel wrote about it. I think he is the only one so far who has heard it, although SonicMan, like me, has it on his wish list. 8)

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Re: Gurn's Classical Corner
« Reply #543 on: June 17, 2009, 09:02:36 AM »
Here is what Gabriel wrote about it. I think he is the only one so far who has heard it, although SonicMan, like me, has it on his wish list. 8)

Well, Gurn is correct - the SQ disc is still on my 'wish list' - I have the Trios disc on order (as shown on the previous page); but Gabriel's positive review was the prompt to add the recording to my list -  :D

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« Reply #544 on: June 22, 2009, 12:12:28 PM »
Almost three months ago I was just happy as a clam listening to the modern music and going about my research, when two things happened simultaneously. I got the ABQ/Teldec box with the Mozart SQs, and robnewman showed up challenging people to listen outside their comfort zones (so to speak, puhleeze, don't pick on me here).

Ever since, I've been on this "classical" kick, and, oh boy, it's getting deep. I'm obsessed with finding the holy grail of c minor and g minor SQs! My general rule is that I won't get it unless it has a minor key SQ on it (which, of course, I've broken!).

Boccherini, Haydn, Dittersdorf, Pleyel...ha!... I can almost tell them apart now! Medic!!!

However, The Artist Known As Mozart does seem to stand out. No one else yet has as much chromatic noodling, for one; and there is a songfulness here missing in others (Andante con moto in K428; the Dissonance SQ). These SQs are quite unique.

One of the most interesting things I've learned is that not everyone wrote SQs in 4 mvmts. Most everyone other than H & M wrote in 3 mvmts., which were substantial, so that SQ timings were about the same no matter how many mvmts. were used. Also, 2 mvmt. SQs were also a feature of a lot of the French SQs (Saint-Georges, Gretry, Gossec, etc.) of the time.

Also, the stylistic change between Haydn's Op.20 and the later maturation of the "classical" sound is really interesting. Op.20 seems almost anachronistic. I seem to like it better than some of the mid-period type SQs before LvB.

But Haydn does seem to emerge as the big daddy. Though the Haydn "sound" seems to run through most all of the composers, he always seems to be at the forefront, his SQs seem the most "interesting." I liked the story about how it dawned on him that the entire civilised Western world considered him the "doyen" of music, and how his Op.77 SQs have such a majestic, opulent gait and demeanor.

I must say, though, through all this, I stttill like minor keys betters, for which, the classical era is not really that well known for (and even some minor key SQs that seem to have been written as trick major key works!). Still, I have found some hints of romanticism here and there (Haydn Op.20, for instance).

I am, however, trying to extricate myself from this quagmire before I run out of gas money!!!

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« Reply #545 on: June 28, 2009, 12:00:37 PM »
Maybe this one has already come up, but I'd think this recording would be a no-brainer for classical fanatics:



Six symphonies by Vanhal.  Not quite Mozart, rather short works (15 minutes average) but very inventive use of the orchestra and sometimes arresting themes.  The third work on the disc, the "Sinfonia Comista" in C is a standout work, infectious with truly brilliant orchestration.  Nicely performed and recorded.

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« Reply #546 on: June 28, 2009, 12:03:30 PM »
Maybe this one has already come up, but I'd think this recording would be a no-brainer for classical fanatics:



Six symphonies by Vanhal.  Not quite Mozart, rather short works (15 minutes average) but very inventive use of the orchestra and sometimes arresting themes.  The third work on the disc, the "Sinfonia Comista" in C is a standout work, infectious with truly brilliant orchestration.  Nicely performed and recorded.


Thanks for that tip. I have a couple of the Vanhal disks on Naxos, and I like the music more than the playing. But Concerto Köln is one of my top favorite bands. I, for one, will have to give this one a go. :)

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Re: Gurn's Classical Corner
« Reply #547 on: June 28, 2009, 12:42:02 PM »
It's an essential disc, indeedie, and much better than the already good Naxos ones. Such wiry energy!
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« Reply #548 on: June 28, 2009, 12:59:25 PM »
And beware you'll pay a kings ransom for them on an American site, they are bargain releases in Europe.  MDT.  They have an offer on "Das Alte Werk" that is worth checking out.

http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/pages/search/searchresults.asp?sFilter1=DAW0509


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Re: Gurn's Classical Corner
« Reply #549 on: June 29, 2009, 05:39:44 AM »
Note that that disc is part of this larger set from Concerto Koln, comprising works by other unknowns from the Classical era.

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« Reply #550 on: June 30, 2009, 06:51:20 AM »
It's an essential disc, indeedie, and much better than the already good Naxos ones. Such wiry energy!

Indeed! ;) Lovers of minor keys should be delighted with this selection of symphonies (4 out of 5), outstandingly performed. (However, my favourite Vanhal symphony is the "great" D major, D4 in the Bryan catalogue, if I'm not mistaken).

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« Reply #551 on: June 30, 2009, 06:53:24 AM »
I like when Sara says, "Indeedie." Heh.

Anyway, I just bought this:


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« Reply #552 on: June 30, 2009, 07:53:36 AM »
Note that that disc is part of this larger set from Concerto Koln, comprising works by other unknowns from the Classical era.



That looks sweet.  For US purchasers, taking shipping into account MDT is a better deal than jpc.

http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product//2564698899.htm

I'm severly tempted, although I already have the Vanhal disc.
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« Reply #553 on: June 30, 2009, 08:29:43 AM »
I like when Sara says, "Indeedie." Heh.


I guess she thinks Indeedie is less rude and pompous than Indeed.   ;D

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« Reply #554 on: June 30, 2009, 09:59:46 AM »
Note that that disc is part of this larger set from Concerto Koln, comprising works by other unknowns from the Classical era.

 

As w/ many others in this thread, the Concerto Köln is a favorite group of mine, also!  8)

I have that 'box set' (above left) on my 'wish list' - but just received them in the 2-CD addition added above (right) -  Antonio Rosetti's Symphonies - now an absolute steal on the Apex label (recordings from 1995/97); Rosetti has been discussed extensively earlier in this thread, so if you like this band, then yet another consideration (and not repeated in the larger box!) -  :)
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Re: Gurn's Classical Corner
« Reply #555 on: July 02, 2009, 07:48:15 PM »
Gurn and others, what do you know about Spech? I'm listening to a string quartet of his played by the Festetics and its good stuff :) Never heard his name before and there isn't much info on him to be found.

Im surprised how good this quartet is...I've only heard num 2 in g minor.

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Re: Gurn's Classical Corner
« Reply #556 on: July 03, 2009, 09:53:24 AM »
Hmmm

What do you think people?

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Re: Gurn's Classical Corner
« Reply #557 on: July 03, 2009, 10:03:42 AM »
Hmmm

What do you think people?

Nice, and well played too!

Q

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« Reply #558 on: July 03, 2009, 06:23:51 PM »
Nice, and well played too!

Q

Do you know anything about this guy Q? It seems there are only 2 cds of his music, but judging by this quartet why is that so?
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Re: Gurn's Classical Corner
« Reply #559 on: July 06, 2009, 08:15:30 AM »
Pichl???