Goffredo Petrassi(1904-2003)

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snyprrr

I remember Chris Rouse picking up the Pesko set when it came out.

Mirror Image

Petrassi is A-OK in my book. I particularly enjoyed his Partita.

snyprrr

Quote from: Mirror Image on June 30, 2013, 09:44:21 PM
Petrassi is A-OK in my book. I particularly enjoyed his Partita.

Do you have the 8 Concerti?

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Quote from: snyprrr on July 01, 2013, 06:15:46 AM
Do you have the 8 Concerti?

No, I wish but the recording on Stradivarius is OOP. :(

snyprrr

Quote from: Mirror Image on July 01, 2013, 07:18:58 AM
No, I wish but the recording on Stradivarius is OOP. :(

going for $$$HUNDREDS$$$ everywhere, arrrgh!!!  Yea, I'd really like the physical here. I just say the Dynamic set of SQs is also going for over $100. I think the Golden Age of Amazon may be coming to a close,... that place, 'Any Book', is selling eeeverything for ridiculous LA prices.

lescamil

Quote from: snyprrr on July 02, 2013, 08:05:53 AM
going for $$$HUNDREDS$$$ everywhere, arrrgh!!!  Yea, I'd really like the physical here. I just say the Dynamic set of SQs is also going for over $100. I think the Golden Age of Amazon may be coming to a close,... that place, 'Any Book', is selling eeeverything for ridiculous LA prices.

Did you listen to it on MOG for the time being? It's completely free. Everyone likes physical, but if you wanna hear it now, you gotta do what you gotta do.
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I'm streaming (up to concerto 4 for orchestra) on Rdio canada as well. It's the Tamayo recording. While I hear no distinct "voice" of the composer, the pieces are attractive. He's one of the many composers of the many (b.1895-1920)of his generation to start with neoclassicism, then serial and "avant guard" during the 50s and 60s onward.  These concerti are nice. I'll listen to all of them. Great use of color...rhythm isn't very imaginative, however. ( so far...)

snyprrr

Quote from: lescamil on July 02, 2013, 08:56:48 AM
Did you listen to it on MOG for the time being? It's completely free. Everyone likes physical, but if you wanna hear it now, you gotta do what you gotta do.

You're right. Will do. I'm such a 'physical' whore, arrrgh!!!

Seriously though, don't you live in LA, where AnyBook sells cds for hundreds? The Golden Age of Amazon is over???

snyprrr

Quote from: lescamil on July 02, 2013, 08:56:48 AM
Did you listen to it on MOG for the time being? It's completely free. Everyone likes physical, but if you wanna hear it now, you gotta do what you gotta do.

I just sampled the intros of the first four on YT, but they're sooo good I can't stand it. I just can't sit in from of computy and listen, arrgh!! Well, I may go back, but yes, they have an exciting disposition... looks like I found my white whale, haha!!

Parsifal

I'm finding Petrassi very interesting.

Moving on from the first Concerto for Orchestra to the Piano Concerto, the music strikes me as very colorful and engaging.

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Next I will have to dig into the Stratavarius set of complete Concerti for Orchestra, which has languished on my shelf for some time, now.


snyprrr

Quote from: Scarpia on July 21, 2013, 07:37:35 AM
I'm finding Petrassi very interesting.

Moving on from the first Concerto for Orchestra to the Piano Concerto, the music strikes me as very colorful and engaging.

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Next I will have to dig into the Stratavarius set of complete Concerti for Orchestra, which has languished on my shelf for some time, now.

gaaah, and he we poor plebes suffer the hunger whilst you... you... republicans... and your embarrassment of riches... ahhh, my spleen!!


This set may be the biggest cd tragedy of all time. I have contacted  to no avail. I mean, COME ON!! Ya don't think you'd sell a few copies???

And when is someone going to release the Uncut version of...

snyprrr

This Petrassi Thread really kicks in the old CDCDCD, but there just are no funds. :'(

springrite

Quote from: snyprrr on July 21, 2013, 08:56:44 AM
This Petrassi Thread really kicks in the old CDCDCD, but there just are no funds. :'(

Time to sell some to fund new purchases?
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

Parsifal

Quote from: snyprrr on July 21, 2013, 08:49:53 AMThis set may be the biggest cd tragedy of all time. I have contacted  to no avail. I mean, COME ON!! Ya don't think you'd sell a few copies???

We all have our pain.  For me it is the legendary Honegger cycle from Luisi.

snyprrr

Quote from: Scarpia on July 21, 2013, 10:38:02 AM
We all have our pain.  For me it is the legendary Honegger cycle from Luisi.

???, what's THAT?! :-*

Brian

Naxos is about to release the piano concerto and flute concerto.

From the Naxos liner notes:

"The Flute Concerto is one of Petrassi's boldest compositions. Dedicated to the talented flautist Severino Gazzelloni, it was composed in 1960, in the wake of the Concertos for orchestra Nos 2–6 (1951–57) and three chamber works—a string quartet, a Serenata (both 1958) and a string trio (1959)—traces of which are clearly audible here, particularly in the sections in which the orchestra is treated as a chamber ensemble.

"Here Petrassi does away with the high strings, using only cellos and double basses; he also omits flutes and oboes, but includes clarinets, bassoons, horns, trumpets and trombones as well as a large percussion section, harp and guitar. Throughout the work, the instruments work on a rotational basis: the introduction is entrusted to the solo cellos and basses, guitar, harp and percussion. The brass only come in at bar 35, the woodwind at bar 57. These interventions are characterised by a vast formation of different timbres."

http://www.naxos.com/catalogue/item.asp?item_code=8.573073

snyprrr

Quote from: Brian on January 07, 2014, 05:51:20 PM
Naxos is about to release the piano concerto and flute concerto.

From the Naxos liner notes:

"The Flute Concerto is one of Petrassi's boldest compositions. Dedicated to the talented flautist Severino Gazzelloni, it was composed in 1960, in the wake of the Concertos for orchestra Nos 2–6 (1951–57) and three chamber works—a string quartet, a Serenata (both 1958) and a string trio (1959)—traces of which are clearly audible here, particularly in the sections in which the orchestra is treated as a chamber ensemble.

"Here Petrassi does away with the high strings, using only cellos and double basses; he also omits flutes and oboes, but includes clarinets, bassoons, horns, trumpets and trombones as well as a large percussion section, harp and guitar. Throughout the work, the instruments work on a rotational basis: the introduction is entrusted to the solo cellos and basses, guitar, harp and percussion. The brass only come in at bar 35, the woodwind at bar 57. These interventions are characterised by a vast formation of different timbres."

http://www.naxos.com/catalogue/item.asp?item_code=8.573073

Now we have a Capriccio New Release of the Piano Concerto, bringing to 3?! (is there a fourth?) the number of new modern recordings of the Piano Concerto, along with the Partita and the other ubiquitous piece. All of a sudden I'm not all that drawn to Petrassi, he's very declamatory and insistent- in that hectoring Italian way- sometimes, as with the String Quartet- I might call it the "Simpson Syndrome" haha- it's not 1945 anymore and I'm just not up for a lot of that mid century Classical loudness. And Petrassi's music sounds as angry as anyone's from the period.

I'm glad I istened to the Pesko recording of the "8 Concerti"- some of the recordings are quite mm-eh and do not compare favourably with the Tamayo. Why that is OOP is beyond me. Still, I'm now more drawn to the other Stradivarius disc of Orchestral Music, the one with 'Frammento' on it.

For me, Petrassi's finest moments probably come from the yet other Stradivarius disc, with the 'Creator/Igor' piece- there's some nice variety there, or the disc with two faces- the Aura disc of various pieces, including the two choral pieces. Yet, the "9 Concerti" are the mother lode, his 'Symphonies'. I might prefer the smaller pieces.

Howares Petrassi's Choral Works?

San Antone

Interesting that this thread was bumped, I was listening to his music this morning ~ Poema per archi e trombe (1977/1980)

https://www.youtube.com/v/7YtzIZXh3-Y

kishnevi

Quote from: Brian on January 07, 2014, 05:51:20 PM
Naxos is about to release the piano concerto and flute concerto.

From the Naxos liner notes:

"The Flute Concerto is one of Petrassi's boldest compositions. Dedicated to the talented flautist Severino Gazzelloni, it was composed in 1960, in the wake of the Concertos for orchestra Nos 2–6 (1951–57) and three chamber works—a string quartet, a Serenata (both 1958) and a string trio (1959)—traces of which are clearly audible here, particularly in the sections in which the orchestra is treated as a chamber ensemble.

"Here Petrassi does away with the high strings, using only cellos and double basses; he also omits flutes and oboes, but includes clarinets, bassoons, horns, trumpets and trombones as well as a large percussion section, harp and guitar. Throughout the work, the instruments work on a rotational basis: the introduction is entrusted to the solo cellos and basses, guitar, harp and percussion. The brass only come in at bar 35, the woodwind at bar 57. These interventions are characterised by a vast formation of different timbres."

http://www.naxos.com/catalogue/item.asp?item_code=8.573073

Listened to this CD the other day.  It's obvious the flute concerto belongs to a different period than the piano concerto and the music from the ballet Orlando (a suite from which is included)--about twenty five years apart, and his style certainly seems to have undergone considerable change:  the works from the 1930s are much more in the 20th Century Romantic vien, while the Flute Concerto is, if not truly a serialist composition,  very firmly in the category of post WWII 'modern' music--albeit managing to be an extremely virtuoso showpiece for flute.   I liked the flute concerto least, but given my preferences, that should not be surprising.

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Quote from: snyprrr on July 21, 2013, 04:57:24 PM
???, what's THAT?! :-*

An incredibly rare set that I managed to snag a copy of a year or so ago for $40. You should see the prices it's going for now. ??? My measly $40 is nothing!