Started by AB68, March 04, 2009, 11:40:08 AM
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Quote from: XB-70 Valkyrie on March 15, 2009, 09:32:56 PMWell?
QuoteI am wondering about the tempo indication and tempo of the first movement. "Molto moderato" is very uncommon and usually used a modifier, e.g. in "Allegro molto moderato" (although this particular combination is also uncommon). In Haydn and Beethoven "Moderato" movements are often highly embellished with figurations in (demi-semi? semi-demi-quavers) whereas Schubert's figurations (like the turn at the end of the second theme) are 16ths, there are only a few arpeggio flourishes with 32nds, also tone repetitions in triplets that seem to indicate a fairly flowing tempo.Now there is the curious fact, that "early" recordings of that sonata tend to a comparably brisk tempo, basically an "Allegro moderato", close to the first movement of Beethoven's trio op.97 that shares the key and has a somewhat similar main theme. In fact, of the fastest interpretations I find, all but one (Lupu) are before 1970 or by "older" pianists born in the early 20th century. (unless indicated without exposition repeat)Schnabel 1937 13:54Wührer 1950s 12:31Erdmann 1951 (Radio Bremen, there are more recordings/broadcasts but I have only this) 12:13Annie Fischer 1960 12:45Horowitz (date?) 13:07 (Urania, not sure where this stems from, his late DG is 19:14 incl. the repeat which is still faster than "typical" more recent performances)Curzon (rec date? in Decca box) 13:15Lupu 18:15 (incl. repeat would be ca. 13:30 without)Haskil (?) 13:41 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqd7VG21ApwSofronitsky 1956 14:03 (there is another much slower one at 17:30 on youtube)Rubinstein 14:17 (there is later slower one)With repeat they would take ca. 17-19 min. Nowadays almost all pianists take the repeat and they are typically around 20-22 min; the fastest "recent" one I am aware of (but there are probably many I have not checked) is Lupu and he is faster than Schnabel but considerably slower than Wührer, Fischer or Erdmann.
Quote from: zamyrabyrd on August 14, 2017, 07:40:58 AMIt was a surprise to read in Interpretating Bach at the Keyboard by Badura-Skoda, that tempi in the Baroque era were considerably faster. This inference was derived from a discovery of "organ-rolls", many of them destroyed but enough remaining to upset entrenched beliefs about slower speeds.
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