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Re: New Releases
« Reply #11200 on: January 26, 2021, 09:09:01 PM »
Thank you. The photo spread with discs laid out showed a lot of the album artwork and it looked like they all used the cover designs if the mono era, but obviously that photo only includes 15 or so of the covers. Pretty courageous to sell $200 of mono stuff in 2021!

I'll probably just wait until separate downloads come to Qobuz and pick up some of the more interesting stuff (Sibelius, Prokofiev, American composers, Albeniz).  I already downloaded the album with Sandor's Bartok 3 and the Miaskovsky Symphony 21 when it was released as part of the Sandor box.

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Re: New Releases
« Reply #11201 on: January 27, 2021, 04:09:31 AM »
I'd wish companies would make some clever selections instead of churning out this colossal "bricks".

I really don't need more Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms and Strauss waltzes from these conductors....

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« Reply #11202 on: January 27, 2021, 05:17:48 AM »
I'd wish companies would make some clever selections instead of churning out this colossal "bricks".

I really don't need more Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms and Strauss waltzes from these conductors....

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« Reply #11203 on: January 27, 2021, 06:13:29 AM »
I'd wish companies would make some clever selections instead of churning out this colossal "bricks".

I really don't need more Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms and Strauss waltzes from these conductors....

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I respect the sentiment but unfortunately most of these companies seem incapable of the cleverness needed to make the right selections... I'm thinking of the Blomstedt San Francisco box that was a random assortment of half his legacy there, the big Academy of St Martin in the Fields box that had tons of Joshua Bell for marketing reasons and not enough 20th century music, some of those "Decca Sound" and "Living Stereo" boxes of classic recordings everyone already has, etc. Or even the "complete Boston Symphony on DG" box where those clever people managed to forget two albums  >:( The Decca box where they asked Vladimir Ashkenazy to choose his own personal top 50 favorite albums is really good, though. Maybe giving artists more control is key. Sad Ormandy can't help!

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« Reply #11204 on: January 27, 2021, 07:39:33 AM »
I respect the sentiment but unfortunately most of these companies seem incapable of the cleverness needed to make the right selections... I'm thinking of the Blomstedt San Francisco box that was a random assortment of half his legacy there, the big Academy of St Martin in the Fields box that had tons of Joshua Bell for marketing reasons and not enough 20th century music, some of those "Decca Sound" and "Living Stereo" boxes of classic recordings everyone already has, etc. Or even the "complete Boston Symphony on DG" box where those clever people managed to forget two albums  >:( The Decca box where they asked Vladimir Ashkenazy to choose his own personal top 50 favorite albums is really good, though. Maybe giving artists more control is key. Sad Ormandy can't help!

I remember for the Philips "Great Pianists of the 20th Century" series they took some expert advice, and the selections were generally excellent!

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« Reply #11205 on: January 27, 2021, 08:25:08 AM »
Or even the "complete Boston Symphony on DG" box where those clever people managed to forget two albums

Were any licensing issues involved?  Sometimes it may not be possible to put together truly complete boxes for legal reasons.  And with older recordings, there have been cases where original source material is gone or not usable.  If the artist or ensemble appeals, and a couple items are missing, that's fine.  Maybe I've just abandoned hopes and worries about completeness (LvB sonata cycles aside), and instead choose to revel in the unlimited amount of entertainment available for nickels.
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« Reply #11206 on: January 27, 2021, 08:51:01 AM »
I remember for the Philips "Great Pianists of the 20th Century" series they took some expert advice, and the selections were generally excellent!

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Yes! I think Sony's recent program reissuing boxes dedicated to various pianists famous and obscure (Janis, Masselos, etc.) was partly advised by Jed Distler. And Eloquence has done excellent jobs choosing everything for their boxes.

Were any licensing issues involved?  Sometimes it may not be possible to put together truly complete boxes for legal reasons.  And with older recordings, there have been cases where original source material is gone or not usable.  If the artist or ensemble appeals, and a couple items are missing, that's fine.  Maybe I've just abandoned hopes and worries about completeness (LvB sonata cycles aside), and instead choose to revel in the unlimited amount of entertainment available for nickels.
In the case of the DG BSO box, the omissions were a Franck symphony with Ozawa and a Gidon Kremer concerto coupling of Shostakovich 2 and Shosty's re-arrangement of the Schumann concerto. Both have since been released by DG in other boxes I think (complete Kremer concerto box and some sort of Ozawa tribute). It is still, disc for disc, a consistently super good box and one of my favorites...just the other day re-sampled Tilson Thomas's early Piston and Debussy.

Agreed with the rest of your post, although Barenboim disowning his Liszt sonata made me even more curious to hear it.

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« Reply #11207 on: January 27, 2021, 09:11:54 AM »
In the case of the DG BSO box


But what are the licensing requirements, and were they addressed at the time the BSO box was issued?  These things can change over time, apply to defined issues/reissues only, and so on.  Without detailed knowledge we only surmise.  The licensing issue could potentially apply to any big box.  And given the current state of the recording industry, where artists explicitly own copyrights more and more frequently, future reissue programs will likely become more convoluted, not less.
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« Reply #11208 on: January 27, 2021, 12:59:45 PM »
According to someone on r.m.c.r, this is just the mono recordings.

That’s entirely possible, but that would mean Ormandy recorded the Franck symphony, the Prokofiev 7th, Scheherazade and the Brahms PC 2 with Serkin twice in mono ? That’s a lot of time spent in the studio, as he also recorded all of those again in stereo. We might have an 180 disc stereo box coming !!

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« Reply #11209 on: January 27, 2021, 05:45:36 PM »
That’s entirely possible, but that would mean Ormandy recorded the Franck symphony, the Prokofiev 7th, Scheherazade and the Brahms PC 2 with Serkin twice in mono ? That’s a lot of time spent in the studio, as he also recorded all of those again in stereo. We might have an 180 disc stereo box coming !!

There are only two Brahms PC2s with Ormandy in the Serkin box.  So it must be mono and early stereo recordings.

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Re: New Releases
« Reply #11210 on: January 27, 2021, 08:16:41 PM »
Coming in April:



I have no idea what’s on the program, but I’ll do a little research and post my findings here.
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« Reply #11211 on: January 27, 2021, 08:30:55 PM »
Coming in April:



I have no idea what’s on the program, but I’ll do a little research and post my findings here.

Please do, but good luck.
This looks intriguing, so I searched around a bit to absolutely no avail.

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« Reply #11212 on: January 27, 2021, 08:32:15 PM »
Please do, but good luck.
This looks intriguing, so I looked around a bit to absolutely no avail.

Like you, I haven’t found any info on it. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see. I could imagine Berio’s Folk Songs being on this program, but that’s just speculation of course.
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« Reply #11213 on: January 27, 2021, 08:34:42 PM »
Yeah, Folk Songs seem most likely, but I'm not particularly interested in another recording thereof. Hoping against hope for some more novel selections.

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« Reply #11214 on: January 27, 2021, 09:01:12 PM »
Yeah, Folk Songs seem most likely, but I'm not particularly interested in another recording thereof. Hoping against hope for some more novel selections.

We’ll just have to wait and see.
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Re: New Releases
« Reply #11215 on: January 27, 2021, 09:30:55 PM »
The goal of many of these big boxes is to persuade you to buy music you already have, in exchange for a few bits and pieces that you don't.
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Re: New Releases
« Reply #11216 on: January 29, 2021, 06:45:54 AM »
This March, Brilliant is releasing a box set of the complete nine symphonies cycle of one of the least famous composers who wrote nine symphonies... Ecuadorian Luis H. Salgado. The recordings feature Ecuador's own Cuenca Symphony Orchestra.

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« Reply #11217 on: January 29, 2021, 06:48:42 AM »
Wikipedia states that Salgado "was regarded as one of the most influential and prolific composers of his country."  I believe that to be true.
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« Reply #11218 on: January 29, 2021, 07:08:34 AM »
This just appeared on Naxos Music Library - it was posted to iTunes in 2010, but I am taking this opportunity to tell you what's on it.



Contents of "I Am Hungover":

Britten - Young Person's Guide to Orchestra (Maazel)
Bizet - Petite Suite (Martinon)
Debussy - Children's Corner (Weissenberg)
Dukas - Sorcerer's Apprentice (Levine)

Apparently hungover people appreciate music for children?  ::)

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« Reply #11219 on: January 29, 2021, 07:09:45 AM »
According to German amazon L. Schayegh's recording of Bach's Sonatas and Partitas for Solo Violin will be released on Feb. 5. - label: Glossa:

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