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Re: New Releases
« Reply #12560 on: October 26, 2021, 06:22:40 PM »
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The Hindemith disc looks interesting.
vers la flamme should buy the Szymanowski disc to use it for eye exams.  :)

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Re: New Releases
« Reply #12561 on: October 26, 2021, 06:26:29 PM »
Saint-Saens is clearly in vogue. Though I imagine the Warner symphonies are just a subset of their larger box?

The Falla box is also an interesting one.

Well, it is his anniversary year. Come next year, he'll go back to being neglected and largely forgotten. :)

A side note: it's a bit surprising that Stravinsky didn't get more love on this anniversary of his passing. I mean we got some sets from DG, Decca and Warner, but they're all rehashes of older performances in each label's back catalogs. I didn't see anything that made me think: "Now, I've got to have that!"
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Re: New Releases
« Reply #12562 on: October 26, 2021, 06:29:25 PM »

The Hindemith disc looks interesting.
vers la flamme should buy the Szymanowski disc to use it for eye exams.  :)

Hah! :D
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« Reply #12563 on: October 26, 2021, 06:30:41 PM »

The Falla box is also an interesting one.

It has four (possibly more) recordings of El Amor Brujo: one each of the two versions De Falla composed, at least one historical recording, and at least one arrangement or transcription.

I am interested. But I'm not sure I'm that interested. The main draw for me is that it includes Atlantida.

ETA: also four La Vida Breves and three Three Cornered Hats
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Re: New Releases
« Reply #12564 on: October 26, 2021, 06:35:08 PM »
It has four (possibly more) recordings of El Amor Brujo: one each of the two versions De Falla composed, at least one historical recording, and at least one arrangement or transcription.

I am interested. But I'm not sure I'm that interested. The main draw for me is that it includes Atlantida.

Which I'm sure can be bought second-hand somewhere if one looks around.
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« Reply #12565 on: October 26, 2021, 06:42:00 PM »
Saint-Saens is clearly in vogue. Though I imagine the Warner symphonies are just a subset of their larger box?

The Falla box is also an interesting one.
The big Warner Saint-Saens box has the Martinon symphony cycle; this Macelaru one is new. Macelaru was a student in conservatory when I attended the same university 2007-10, I saw him perform a few times, and it's fun watching his career grow.

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Re: New Releases
« Reply #12566 on: October 26, 2021, 06:45:09 PM »
It has four (possibly more) recordings of El Amor Brujo: one each of the two versions De Falla composed, at least one historical recording, and at least one arrangement or transcription.

I am interested. But I'm not sure I'm that interested. The main draw for me is that it includes Atlantida.

ETA: also four La Vida Breves and three Three Cornered Hats


Ugh. And this is the kind of over-stuffing that usually turns me off boxes of this sort. Especially "historical recordings". You do get some instances where recordings are of genuine historical interest (and I note that Falla himself appears to be involved) but often it just means "old recordings we can no longer sell on their own".

I get that some people like having multiple versions of the same work rather more than I do. But in this sort of context it really does tend to feel like an exercise in record companies working out how they can get more money out of people. Get them to buy more CDs than they really want to because there isn't an alternative.

Usually there is an alternative these days: the second-hand market. Or heck, streaming or downloads of the bits I actually want to hear.
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Re: New Releases
« Reply #12567 on: October 26, 2021, 06:45:21 PM »
The big Warner Saint-Saens box has the Martinon symphony cycle; this Macelaru one is new. Macelaru was a student in conservatory when I attended the same university 2007-10, I saw him perform a few times, and it's fun watching his career grow.

Ah okay.
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« Reply #12568 on: October 26, 2021, 06:52:03 PM »
I'm happy for the historical add-ons to those Warner boxes. They've included stuff like Falla and Ravel performing their own works, and other stuff that just isn't available any other way (because of their own terrible catalog management). And ultimately for the addition of a couple extra discs, we're usually only talking about $3-4. They're not making some huge fortune. It's for total nerds like me.

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« Reply #12569 on: October 26, 2021, 07:01:06 PM »
I'm happy for the historical add-ons to those Warner boxes. They've included stuff like Falla and Ravel performing their own works, and other stuff that just isn't available any other way (because of their own terrible catalog management). And ultimately for the addition of a couple extra discs, we're usually only talking about $3-4. They're not making some huge fortune. It's for total nerds like me.

The Warner Stravinsky box is a juicy one: a whole series of recordings by or including Stravinsky from the 30s that aren't in the Sony/Columbia sets.

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« Reply #12570 on: October 26, 2021, 07:04:28 PM »
Which I'm sure can be bought second-hand somewhere if one looks around.

There a couple of other things in the set that I have only one recording, or even none (Homenajes).

On another angle:
Do you have a contents list for the Mariss Jansons set?

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Re: New Releases
« Reply #12571 on: October 26, 2021, 07:06:41 PM »
There a couple of other things in the set that I have only one recording, or even none (Homenajes).

On another angle:
Do you have a contents list for the Mariss Jansons set?

Yep, here you go:

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« Reply #12572 on: October 26, 2021, 07:11:37 PM »
And ultimately for the addition of a couple extra discs, we're usually only talking about $3-4. They're not making some huge fortune. It's for total nerds like me.

We're talking about increasing the profit margin on each individual nerd so that the overall effect is to make significantly more money with a minimum of effort. That's kind of the point of the exercise.

But it's really no different to record company behaviour generally, ie it's not confined to classical. Every "greatest hits" of anniversary reissue of a pop album is practically guaranteed to have a few bonuses to induce people who already own most of the material to cough up more money to get those otherwise unobtainable extras.
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Re: New Releases
« Reply #12573 on: October 26, 2021, 07:17:46 PM »
Yep, here you go:

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Thanks. I'll definitely look out for that. But I hope those SACDs are really SACD hybrids.

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« Reply #12574 on: October 26, 2021, 07:56:57 PM »
Thanks. I'll definitely look out for that. But I hope those SACDs are really SACD hybrids.

I'm pretty sure they will be. I haven't known this label to release purely SACD recordings.
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Re: New Releases
« Reply #12575 on: October 27, 2021, 09:52:46 AM »
A new recording, I believe.



I forgot about this before, I think it’s a wonderful video

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Re: New Releases
« Reply #12577 on: October 27, 2021, 11:40:36 PM »
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

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« Reply #12578 on: October 28, 2021, 05:37:38 AM »
What's the music like?

Very tonal.  He does a lot of music for films and video games too.  Here is an excerpt:
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Re: New Releases
« Reply #12579 on: October 29, 2021, 05:57:11 AM »
Oh, the version my college roommate used was "all cats look the same in the dark." Your version makes much more sense.
Edit: and googling I see "your" version goes back to the 1500s, wow.

Now, the specific use to which he put the metaphor, that was something I had never liked!

I wonder if this started as something quite literal (1500s diet with low vitamin A = poor night vision) then morphed into a metaphor?