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Re: New Releases
« Reply #8180 on: December 19, 2018, 06:20:04 AM »
I do not recall commenting on these particular recordings - and I am not familiar with (all of) them...  8)

If you search the forum for "Oxbridge" you'll find that it is actually Mandryka used that term for a certain style of performing Early Music, and that you've had in fact discussions with him in the past on that topic.

Anyway, that doesn't take away from the fact that for Early Franco-Flemish repertoire, I am inclined to look for a different style than the Hilliard's.

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Oxbridge for the vowel sounds, especially prominent in some people who sing for Mary Berry, maybe only Brits notice it. What is it exactly that you and others find a bit offputting about the Hilliard approach?

I have a slight quibble with Hilliard, by the way. I don't like the way that the countertenor is, at least in some recordings, so forward and prominent. And sometimes I feel that Rogers Covey-Crump's style could do with a bit more colour, tension and relief.
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Re: New Releases
« Reply #8181 on: December 19, 2018, 08:25:33 AM »
Just for the record, here is the thread from the Early Music Club (EMC) that I remembered from a few years ago:

I'm assuming this box has been mentioned, but if not - it is a good one.  I was reminded of it by a post of a different recording of the Ockeghem Requiem in the New Purchases Thread -



Has all my favorites.

It's great deal. But stylistically outdated IMO. For me personally the British choral style and Franco-Flemish composers simply does not compute... ::)
These days there are plenty of preferable alternatives by other ensembles. :)

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I totally agree. They sound to cold and clinical (to generalize absurdly).

And continuing ...

I would say earthy or more human than angelic. There is more to the issue about some of British ensembles than just OVPP. It is about the choral/ ensemble sound, particularly the male voices - both low and high, it is about phrasing, diction. Music is usually transposed upwards to accomadate the taste for a higher , more "angelic" sound of choirs with larger propotions of female voices and male altos. (Just listen to the grumbling basses in  the Huelgas ensemble in comparison) It is simply not always idiomatic or authentic....

Please don't mind me and enjoy nonetheless,  I am simply pointing out that there is more out there and it might be of interest to you. :)
Ockeghem by the French Ensemble Musica Nova or Ensemble Organum, or De la Rue by the Flemish ensemble Capilla Flamenca can be a very satisfying experience.

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Anyway - for me all of the groups mentioned have their merits and the only kind of group that I choose to avoid are all female groups, or groups where the female voices dominate the sound.  I vastly prefer male voices, and lower voices primarily.  If transposition is to occur I want it to go down, not up.  OVPP or 2VPP over larger groups.

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Re: New Releases
« Reply #8182 on: December 19, 2018, 09:55:40 AM »
Just for the record, here is the thread from the Early Music Club (EMC) that I remembered from a few years ago:

Your memory is obviously better than mine.. :)

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  I vastly prefer male voices, and lower voices primarily.  If transposition is to occur I want it to go down, not up.  OVPP or 2VPP over larger groups.

And it seems our tastes are not far apart...

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Re: New Releases
« Reply #8183 on: December 20, 2018, 07:17:02 PM »
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Re: New Releases
« Reply #8184 on: December 21, 2018, 03:59:16 PM »













Also coming, the complete Robert Casadesus Columbia recordings spread across 65 CDs, presumably of the original jackets variety.  I'm wondering if the couple items excluded from the long OOP Casadesus Edition will be included.  I'm good with the long box.
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« Reply #8185 on: December 21, 2018, 05:31:32 PM »
A Paavo album with no Paavo on the cover?! Has that happened since he was a kid recording for BIS?

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Re: New Releases
« Reply #8186 on: December 21, 2018, 05:41:00 PM »
I am inclined to nominate the Bartok for the ugly CD thread. Are they suggesting Bartok can be played in their sleep?

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Re: New Releases
« Reply #8187 on: December 21, 2018, 08:30:58 PM »
Advice to Andris Nelsons: never a good idea to look up when you are going down the stairs.

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Re: New Releases
« Reply #8188 on: December 22, 2018, 01:19:45 PM »
A Paavo album with no Paavo on the cover?! Has that happened since he was a kid recording for BIS?


I perused his site to get a sense.  It's actually common for him not to appear on the cover, especially for big name soloist recordings of various concerti.  He also doesn't seem to be on any covers of recordings with the Orchestre de Paris.
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« Reply #8189 on: December 22, 2018, 03:04:45 PM »
Advice to Andris Nelsons: never a good idea to look up when you are going down the stairs.
Possibly a reference to the time when Shostakovich slept out on the landing of the stairs in his building so that his family wouldn’t be disturbed when the NKVD came to arrest him, but that was later than the works in that album (around the time of the 10th Symphony & Song of the Forests)

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Re: New Releases
« Reply #8190 on: December 23, 2018, 12:10:20 AM »
I am inclined to nominate the Bartok for the ugly CD thread. Are they suggesting Bartok can be played in their sleep?

I quite like that cover, actually.
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« Reply #8191 on: December 24, 2018, 08:13:07 PM »
Amazon US actually has a detailed track listing. Unusual for them this far in advance


The price has actually declined by $11-$12 to $63.29.
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Re: New Releases
« Reply #8192 on: December 26, 2018, 07:35:28 AM »


About time.









Of those Koeckerts.





Also on the big box front there's a new complete Giulini box from DG, a complete Thielemann orchestral recordings box from DG, and the long-rumored Casals Edition on Sony.
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Re: New Releases
« Reply #8193 on: December 28, 2018, 10:25:30 AM »
More JANUARY + early FEBRUARY
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Mahler 2
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An image to go with that.


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Re: New Releases
« Reply #8194 on: December 31, 2018, 12:15:19 PM »
Not too early to start thinking about FEBRUARY


... no artwork available to me yet:

Arriaga - Orchestral Works
BBC Philharmonic / Juanjo Mena

Tasmin Little Plays Amy Beach, Clara Schumann, and Ethel Smyth
with John Lenehan

Jean-Efflam Bavouzet Plays Schumann
Sonata No. 3 + Faschingsschwank aus Wien + Gesang der Frühe + the late Drei Klavierstücke

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Also coming on Ondine, but only back cover artwork is available to me:
We have front cover art now.



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Re: New Releases
« Reply #8195 on: December 31, 2018, 04:59:23 PM »
Two reissues from Ensemble Organum on January 4



And a brand new Stile Antico on January 11


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Re: New Releases
« Reply #8196 on: December 31, 2018, 05:01:44 PM »









Some Asian market items of at least a little interest.
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« Reply #8197 on: January 02, 2019, 08:31:43 AM »
Capucon brothers with Argerich and Haitink playing Schumann:



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Re: New Releases
« Reply #8198 on: January 05, 2019, 07:46:22 AM »


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Re: New Releases
« Reply #8199 on: January 05, 2019, 07:54:59 AM »
Advice to Andris Nelsons: never a good idea to look up when you are going down the stairs.
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