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Re: New Releases
« Reply #11580 on: May 08, 2021, 08:09:55 AM »
Do you have the complete Art of the Netherlands, all 51 tracks?

How many tracks are missing compared to the LP set?

Which doesn't look very indispensable anyway?

https://www.discogs.com/Early-Music-Consort-Of-London-David-Munrow-The-Art-Of-The-Netherlands/release/4488654

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« Reply #11581 on: May 08, 2021, 08:17:10 AM »


Thanks.
The apparent Works for Piano II bewildered me - it's volume 54 of Mode's Cage Edition, and there were plenty of previous piano recordings... ???
But the typeface is confusing, it's actually Works for Piano 11!

https://moderecords.com/catalog/the-works-for-piano-11/

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« Reply #11582 on: May 08, 2021, 08:42:33 AM »


This one confused me momentarily. I thought it was the "Works for Piano II" - as in the Roman numeral for 2 - and I wondered when volume I was released. And is it the piano works of Cage or Feldman? (Or both?)

But a little Googling tells me that this is in fact volume 11 in a series of the piano works of John Cage. Led astray by the font!

I didn't know Feldman did an arrangement of Cheap Imitation (a piece I've never actually heard - the original is for solo piano, I think). I might like to hear this.

EDIT: Ha, I see T.D. beat me to it. :)
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« Reply #11583 on: May 08, 2021, 09:30:27 AM »
How many tracks are missing compared to the LP set?

About one half of the instrumental music from vol. 2.
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« Reply #11584 on: May 08, 2021, 10:22:44 AM »
About one half of the instrumental music from vol. 2.

Ah, in that case I'll pass.
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« Reply #11585 on: May 08, 2021, 11:49:17 AM »
Ah, in that case I'll pass.

I compared the original LP release which I owned to the later CD rerelease (the one Que listed) which I own. I don''t know if the forthcoming Warner rerelease includes the instrumental works which were missing on these CDs - time will show. I have the missing tracks in digitized version somewhere, but don't know if I can find them easily. As far as I recall there was a devasting error on one of those tracks, which didn't make it to the CD release..
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« Reply #11586 on: May 08, 2021, 01:14:05 PM »
This one confused me momentarily. I thought it was the "Works for Piano II" - as in the Roman numeral for 2 - and I wondered when volume I was released. And is it the piano works of Cage or Feldman? (Or both?)

But a little Googling tells me that this is in fact volume 11 in a series of the piano works of John Cage. Led astray by the font!

I didn't know Feldman did an arrangement of Cheap Imitation (a piece I've never actually heard - the original is for solo piano, I think). I might like to hear this.

EDIT: Ha, I see T.D. beat me to it. :)

It's even more confusing...
I thought Cheap Imitation was a rather well-known piece, and was surprised to see it only included in Vol. 54 of the Cage Edition.
But Stephen Drury already recorded the solo piano version on mode 63, Vol. 17 of the Cage EditionPiano Works 3.
It's also been recorded in Wergo's Cage series, by Schleiermacher on MDG and many others (https://johncage.org/pp/John-Cage-Work-Detail.cfm?work_ID=37).
I don't yet own a recording, might go for Simonacci on Brilliant Classics. I have some other Cage piano CDs by Simonacci; he's IMO far from the best interpreter out there, but his recordings don't cost much.

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Re: New Releases
« Reply #11587 on: May 09, 2021, 01:34:53 AM »
This one confused me momentarily. I thought it was the "Works for Piano II" - as in the Roman numeral for 2 - and I wondered when volume I was released. And is it the piano works of Cage or Feldman? (Or both?)

But a little Googling tells me that this is in fact volume 11 in a series of the piano works of John Cage. Led astray by the font!

I didn't know Feldman did an arrangement of Cheap Imitation (a piece I've never actually heard - the original is for solo piano, I think). I might like to hear this.

EDIT: Ha, I see T.D. beat me to it. :)

I encountered the exact same problem yesterday, with a listing on Amazon confusing Volume 11 of Grieg piano works with Volume 2. In that case the font on the cover wasn't nearly so deceiving, but someone within the Amazon system was deceived anyway.
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« Reply #11588 on: May 09, 2021, 07:24:58 AM »
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Re: New Releases
« Reply #11589 on: May 09, 2021, 11:11:58 AM »
     


https://www.challengerecords.com/artists/1239356182

Two new Cappella Pratensis releases.
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« Reply #11590 on: May 09, 2021, 12:03:39 PM »
     


https://www.challengerecords.com/artists/1239356182

Two new Cappella Pratensis releases.

Very interesting!  :) 

The 1st volume is a reissue:




According to their website the total series of "The Den Bosch Choirbooks" will be five volumes
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« Reply #11591 on: May 09, 2021, 05:58:27 PM »
Regarding Ms. Shebanova:

Anyone familiar with her?

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« Reply #11592 on: May 09, 2021, 07:23:37 PM »
Very interesting!  :) 

The 1st volume is a reissue:




According to their website the total series of "The Den Bosch Choirbooks" will be five volumes

Oh yes, it’s a nice recording. I heard half of it last night after listening to some of Beauty Farm’s de la Rue. In fact - it showed how very special the Beauty Farm is, despite the strengths of Stratton Bull.  Beauty Farm have raised the bar considerably.
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« Reply #11593 on: May 09, 2021, 10:35:42 PM »
Interesting, not at least for the lovely, potentially sparkling Fantaisie, which hasn't received that many recordings, relatively speaking. Argerich did a great Debussy Violin Sonata with Gitlis, but this will probably be different, due to his style. And the Cello Sonata is usually a gem (she recorded it before, such as with Maisky).

Unfortunately, Barenboim is the pianist for the two sonatas. Argerich only plays the Fantaisie.

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« Reply #11594 on: May 11, 2021, 03:26:51 AM »
Oh yes, it’s a nice recording. I heard half of it last night after listening to some of Beauty Farm’s de la Rue. In fact - it showed how very special the Beauty Farm is, despite the strengths of Stratton Bull.  Beauty Farm have raised the bar considerably.
Those Beauty Farm "album" covers are something!

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« Reply #11595 on: May 11, 2021, 04:20:22 AM »


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« Reply #11596 on: May 11, 2021, 04:54:01 AM »
Unfortunately, Barenboim is the pianist for the two sonatas. Argerich only plays the Fantaisie.

OK, a mixed bag then.

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« Reply #11597 on: May 11, 2021, 07:02:40 AM »
By chance I listened to his vol.1 yesterday. I find him a bit solid and ascetic. But of course the completist in me shall acquire vol.2 too.

Well I went back to Vol 1 today (Gilbert Rowland’s Froberger) and listened to the C major suite - and really enjoyed it! So looking forward to Vol 2 now, which must be immanent - I don’t know about stolid and ascetic - there’s some imaginative embellishments in the lament, the first movement of that suite.

(To my horror I noticed some dreadful Froberger has been released. A bloke called Pierre Portier who uses a piano of sorts, and another called Bernd Walter, who seems to make transcriptions of Froberger for piano and orchestra.)
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« Reply #11598 on: May 11, 2021, 04:01:03 PM »
Apparently, this box set hasn’t even been officially released yet:



And yet, I have my hands on it right now. The DG website shows a release date of August 2021 and another site I visited gave September 2021 as its release date. Another oddity is this box set isn’t even listed on Amazon. So I suppose my question here is: I bought this off JPC, how is it possible for them to sell this set when the official product release date is in August?
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« Reply #11599 on: May 11, 2021, 05:14:41 PM »
Apparently, this box set hasn’t even been officially released yet:



And yet, I have my hands on it right now. The DG website shows a release date of August 2021 and another site I visited gave September 2021 as its release date. Another oddity is this box set isn’t even listed on Amazon. So I suppose my question here is: I bought this off JPC, how is it possible for them to sell this set when the official product release date is in August?

Curious. I would have suggested a difference between the German release date and some others, but then would DG not reflect the German one? Hmm.

Also, this is a re-release of a series of "Unknown Richard Strauss" albums from roughly 20 years ago on the Koch label.

EDIT: Even more interestingly, the German language version of the DG website provides a link direct to JPC. The English language version doesn't.

https://www.deutschegrammophon.com/de/komponisten/richardstrauss

https://www.deutschegrammophon.com/en/composers/richardstrauss
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