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Re: The Diamond Mine
« Reply #180 on: September 01, 2021, 03:57:56 AM »
Quote from: Irons on August 31, 2021, 10:35:31 PM
My choice would be Constant Lambert as he would have the most interesting things to say on other composers (Music Ho). Also he would buy me a beer or two. :P
An interesting choice - I'm sure that his son Kit (manager of 'The Who') would be interesting to talk to. I could also talk to Constant about cats!
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Re: The Diamond Mine
« Reply #181 on: September 01, 2021, 04:01:03 AM »
Quote from: Irons on August 31, 2021, 10:37:05 PM
Missed this, Jeffrey. How interesting.
Thanks Lol. If I remember correctly the Care Home offered to put me through to him directly but I thought that this might be something of an imposition, so I wrote to him instead.

By the way, Constant and Kit Lambert are buried (or their ashes are) in Brompton Cemetery, down the road from where I grew up.
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Re: The Diamond Mine
« Reply #182 on: September 01, 2021, 06:16:44 AM »
Quote from: vandermolen on September 01, 2021, 04:01:03 AM
Thanks Lol. If I remember correctly the Care Home offered to put me through to him directly but I thought that this might be something of an imposition, so I wrote to him instead.

By the way, Constant and Kit Lambert are buried (or their ashes are) in Brompton Cemetery, down the road from where I grew up.

Father and son together is good.

I have a thing about cemeteries Jeffrey, they are so peaceful and with sense of the past and our forbearers. As weird as it sounds due to being cut of from our family because of Covid my wife and I found ourselves on last Christmas morning strolling around Leatherhead Cemetery looking for the grave of Lydia Mordkovitch. Didn't find it, but the surroundings matched my wife's mood!
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Re: The Diamond Mine
« Reply #183 on: September 01, 2021, 10:53:37 AM »
Quote from: Irons on September 01, 2021, 06:16:44 AM
Father and son together is good.

I have a thing about cemeteries Jeffrey, they are so peaceful and with sense of the past and our forbearers. As weird as it sounds due to being cut of from our family because of Covid my wife and I found ourselves on last Christmas morning strolling around Leatherhead Cemetery looking for the grave of Lydia Mordkovitch. Didn't find it, but the surroundings matched my wife's mood!
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This might interested you Lol:
https://www.royalparks.org.uk/parks/brompton-cemetery/explore-brompton-cemetery/constant-lambert
I love the painting of Constant Lambert by Christopher Wood.
When I lived in Earl's Court I would often walk through Brompton Cemetery - a number of famous people are buried there.
Another image of CL with his beautiful wife:
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Re: The Diamond Mine
« Reply #184 on: September 02, 2021, 05:27:29 AM »
Has Constant Lambert invaded David Diamond's thread or?
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Re: The Diamond Mine
« Reply #185 on: September 02, 2021, 05:38:59 AM »
Quote from: vandermolen on September 01, 2021, 10:53:37 AM
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This might interested you Lol:
https://www.royalparks.org.uk/parks/brompton-cemetery/explore-brompton-cemetery/constant-lambert
I love the painting of Constant Lambert by Christopher Wood.
When I lived in Earl's Court I would often walk through Brompton Cemetery - a number of famous people are buried there.
Another image of CL with his beautiful wife:


Blimey, Margot Fonteyn got around, didn't she!

Apologies to Maestro and David Diamond.
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Re: The Diamond Mine
« Reply #186 on: September 02, 2021, 09:08:28 PM »
Quote from: Maestro267 on September 02, 2021, 05:27:29 AM
Has Constant Lambert invaded David Diamond's thread or?
Good point. My apologies.
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Re: The Diamond Mine
« Reply #187 on: September 15, 2021, 05:12:38 AM »
Just finished my first listen to David Diamond's third symphony. A convulsively energetic first movement, a ghostly slow movement with considerable dissonance and sensuality, an energetic scherzo, followed by a return to the mood of the second movement, with a slow finale that ends quietly.

A satisfying work; I think the second movement was my favorite part. The ending left me a little puzzled. Schwarz's recording is well done, perhaps the slow movements were a bit more tentative than I would have preferred.

Given the quality an accessibility of this music, I'm surprised Diamond isn't better represented on record.
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Re: The Diamond Mine
« Reply #188 on: September 15, 2021, 07:14:28 AM »
Quote from: Spotted Horses on September 15, 2021, 05:12:38 AM
Just finished my first listen to David Diamond's third symphony. A convulsively energetic first movement, a ghostly slow movement with considerable dissonance and sensuality, an energetic scherzo, followed by a return to the mood of the second movement, with a slow finale that ends quietly.

A satisfying work; I think the second movement was my favorite part. The ending left me a little puzzled. Schwarz's recording is well done, perhaps the slow movements were a bit more tentative than I would have preferred.

Given the quality an accessibility of this music, I'm surprised Diamond isn't better represented on record.
Yes, I'm surprised that it's the only recording. I rank it as one of the Great American 3rd Symphonies, alongside those by Roy Harris, Copland, William Schuman, Paul Creston and Howard Hanson. If you don't know them have a listen to symphonies 1,2 and 4 which are all great IMO.
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Re: The Diamond Mine
« Reply #189 on: September 15, 2021, 07:38:44 AM »
Quote from: vandermolen on September 15, 2021, 07:14:28 AM
Yes, I'm surprised that it's the only recording. I rank it as one of the Great American 3rd Symphonies, alongside those by Roy Harris, Copland, William Schuman, Paul Creston and Howard Hanson. If you don't know them have a listen to symphonies 1,2 and 4 which are all great IMO.

Yes, I have the Schwarz recordings of 2 and 4. Seems like Delos' Diamond cycle ran out of steam. There is a Berstein recording of the 4th symphony, and I am curious to hear that.
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Re: The Diamond Mine
« Reply #190 on: September 15, 2021, 10:46:52 AM »
Quote from: Spotted Horses on September 15, 2021, 07:38:44 AM
Yes, I have the Schwarz recordings of 2 and 4. Seems like Delos' Diamond cycle ran out of steam. There is a Berstein recording of the 4th symphony, and I am curious to hear that.
The Bernstein 'American Masters' CD is probably my favourite recording in the entire series as it also features the best version of Roy Harris's Third Symphony (better than the DGG remake) as well as Diamond's 4th Symphony. Diamond's First Symphony is a favourite of mine as well.
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Re: The Diamond Mine
« Reply #191 on: October 16, 2021, 02:13:07 PM »
Some may yet remember the GMG'er weirdears (Chris Forbes, who was a student of Diamond's.

I've just learnt of Chris's piece Threnody Variations for Orchestra 2, in memoriam David Diamond ... a fabulous piece, I think:

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/nEiPGM304XE" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/nEiPGM304XE</a>
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Re: The Diamond Mine
« Reply #192 on: October 17, 2021, 11:14:29 PM »
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 16, 2021, 02:13:07 PM
Some may yet remember the GMG'er weirdears (Chris Forbes, who was a student of Diamond's.

I've just learnt of Chris's piece Threnody Variations for Orchestra 2, in memoriam David Diamond ... a fabulous piece, I think:

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/nEiPGM304XE" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/nEiPGM304XE</a>
I remember weirdears (great name!) and the Threnody 2 sounds very good - interesting that he was taught by DD.
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