Kurt Atterberg (1887-1974)

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vandermolen

Very much agree with the last two posts here as I have also derived much pleasure from the CD whilst finding the performance of the wonderful Symphony 5 'Funebre' too fast. If my memory serves me correctly (am on holiday away from my CD collection :'() Jarvi did much the same with Raff Symphony 5 'Lenore'.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

relm1

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Quote from: vandermolen on July 24, 2015, 06:06:23 AM
Very much agree with the last two posts here as I have also derived much pleasure from the CD whilst finding the performance of the wonderful Symphony 5 'Funebre' too fast. If my memory serves me correctly (am on holiday away from my CD collection :'() Jarvi did much the same with Raff Symphony 5 'Lenore'.

Agreed.  The Jarvi Atterberg is for those who are listening in rush hour traffic and on their third cup of coffee rather than someone in a reflective mode contemplating the mysteries of life. 

This is a great recording of No. 5:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008BCCQMO/ref=dm_ws_sp_ps_dp

This is just so freaking gorgeous:
https://youtu.be/4ebIM6pm294?t=340

vandermolen

Quote from: relm1 on July 24, 2015, 07:28:27 AM
Agreed.  The Jarvi Atterberg is for those who are listening in rush hour traffic and on their third cup of coffee rather than someone in a reflective mode contemplating the mysteries of life. 

This is a great recording of No. 5:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008BCCQMO/ref=dm_ws_sp_ps_dp

This is just so freaking gorgeous:
https://youtu.be/4ebIM6pm294?t=340

Agreed on all fronts. I have that fine Swedish recording of Symphony 5 too - it is my favourite version. The Musicweb review of the Jarvi version compared it with CPO but made no mention of it.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Brian

The CPO Atterberg series continues in September! Cello Concerto and French Horn Concerto, with soloists Nikolai Schneider and Johannes-Theodor Wiemes. Ari Rasilainen is back in charge.

PaulR

Quote from: Brian on August 13, 2015, 12:32:54 PM
The CPO Atterberg series continues in September! Cello Concerto and French Horn Concerto, with soloists Nikolai Schneider and Johannes-Theodor Wiemes. Ari Rasilainen is back in charge.
Thought for sure they released the cello concerto before with Rasilainen in charge, but my mind has made things up again.  :)

Will be interested to hear how it compares with Mørk/Jaarvi's version.  Though I still need to hear the horn concerto :)

Mirror Image

Quote from: Brian on August 13, 2015, 12:32:54 PM
The CPO Atterberg series continues in September! Cello Concerto and French Horn Concerto, with soloists Nikolai Schneider and Johannes-Theodor Wiemes. Ari Rasilainen is back in charge.

Excellent!

vandermolen

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Super new release of Atterberg's Third Symphony, the 'West Coast Pictures'. Jarvi has been accused of racing through some earlier releases but not here; in fact the magical opening of the Symphony is played more slowly that the rival CPO and excellent Sixten Ehrling version, investing it with great poetry and slumbering power. The recording is spectacular allowing me to hear so much more detail than in earlier recordings.
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"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

mahler10th

Quote from: vandermolen on February 26, 2016, 02:44:57 PM
Super new release of Atterberg's Third Symphony, the 'West Coast Pictures'. Jarvi has been accused of racing through some earlier releases but not here; in fact the magical opening of the Symphony is played more slowly that the rival CPO and excellent Sixten Ehrling version, investing it with great poetry and slumbering power. The recording is spectacular allowing me to hear so much more detail than in earlier recordings.
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Jarvi has been accused of racing through some earlier releases but not here...

It is exciting to hear Jarvi play in such form, Jeffrey.  This is the best release in the series yet, and for once in a very long time Jarvi has that wonderful sound he cultivated when he was with the SNO in the eighties.  This version of Symphony 3 is outstanding and glorious sounding.  I just LOVE Atterbergs output, and I'm amazed to say Jarvi has done the best job with it yet...reference stuff for me!   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Brian

By coincidence, I'm listening right now! 8 minutes into the "Storm" movement, which seems a little bit under-powered, but that might be these headphones' fault. This is definitely Jarvi's best Atterberg CD so far, though!

Brian

OK, symphony's over. This is definitely Jarvi's best outing yet, but there is a MAJOR weakness: the weak percussion! Through the storm section, the cymbals and their friends seem too far back, too shy. But the real problem is at the climax of the finale, when Rasilainen gives us that immaculately-timed super-hit of bass drum, cymbal crash, and timpani roll all in one thrilling unison as the rest of the orchestra plays its biggest chord. But Jarvi doesn't time the cymbal crash right...and there's no bass drum!!!

At least the harp at the end is perfect!

relm1

Quote from: Brian on March 04, 2016, 06:49:41 AM
OK, symphony's over. This is definitely Jarvi's best outing yet, but there is a MAJOR weakness: the weak percussion! Through the storm section, the cymbals and their friends seem too far back, too shy. But the real problem is at the climax of the finale, when Rasilainen gives us that immaculately-timed super-hit of bass drum, cymbal crash, and timpani roll all in one thrilling unison as the rest of the orchestra plays its biggest chord. But Jarvi doesn't time the cymbal crash right...and there's no bass drum!!!

At least the harp at the end is perfect!

I agree with you.  I believe it is a 20 year old live concert performance of the Symphony which explains the balance issue (less mics on stage in concert than in studio) and the odd reason why the interpretation is better than the others...it was from Jarvi's glory days.

vandermolen

Quote from: Brian on March 04, 2016, 06:27:47 AM
By coincidence, I'm listening right now! 8 minutes into the "Storm" movement, which seems a little bit under-powered, but that might be these headphones' fault. This is definitely Jarvi's best Atterberg CD so far, though!
I reviewed it very positively on Amazon UK. Another reviewer was very negative, making the same point about the underpowered storm. I still enjoyed it enormously and agree that it's Jarvi's best Atterberg symphony yet. Any views on the recording under Sixten Ehrling which was my introduction to this fine symphony? Good to hear the different views about No.3.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

relm1

Quote from: vandermolen on March 04, 2016, 09:42:49 AM
I reviewed it very positively on Amazon UK. Another reviewer was very negative, making the same point about the underpowered storm. I still enjoyed it enormously and agree that it's Jarvi's best Atterberg symphony yet. Any views on the recording under Sixten Ehrling which was my introduction to this fine symphony? Good to hear the different views about No.3.

The Sixten ehrling is the go to performance and a very fine recording.  Highly recommended...it just has so much atmosphere and driving energy plus architectural planning which tends to be lacking in today's recordings. 

vandermolen

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Quote from: relm1 on March 05, 2016, 01:24:23 AM
The Sixten ehrling is the go to performance and a very fine recording.  Highly recommended...it just has so much atmosphere and driving energy plus architectural planning which tends to be lacking in today's recordings.
Thanks very much. Will listen to it later.
Have just done so. The Ehrling performance conveys the greatest sense of urgency and is a great performance although I suspect that I will keep returning to the Jarvi which I like very much for both the performance and immediacy of the recording.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

vandermolen

#114
For some reason Symphony 6 passed me by. I have now discovered Beecham's old recording (1928), beautifully restored on Dutton and have come to realise what an engaging work it is:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Atterberg-Symphony-No-Mozart-34/dp/B01G64LKSY/ref=sr_1_7?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1464724651&sr=1-7&keywords=Atterberg+symphony+6
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Zeus

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I'm just starting to get to know Atterberg. Based on the above discussions I decided to steer clear of the recent Chandos/Jarvi series. Instead I got two CPO discs:


Symphonies 3 & 6





Cello Concerto / Horn Concerto





Hopefully these should be enough for a nOOb like me.


I listened to the Symphony #3 last night, and was really impressed, particularly by the second movement.
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Quote from: Judge Fish on January 26, 2017, 05:00:29 AM
I'm just starting to get to know Atterberg. Based on the above discussions I decided to steer clear of the recent Chandos/Jarvi series. Instead I got two CPO discs:


Symphonies 3 & 6





Cello Concerto / Horn Concerto





Hopefully these should be enough for a nOOb like me.


I listened to the Symphony #3 last night, and was really impressed, particularly by the second movement.

Excellent! Atterberg's 3rd is pure magic IMHO. Stunning work.

vandermolen

"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

André

The 5th too is a great work, in its more subdued, moody way. As well as the scrumptious piano concerto. And the delightful 3rd Suite, for viola and cello.

vandermolen

Quote from: André on January 26, 2017, 01:56:24 PM
The 5th too is a great work, in its more subdued, moody way. As well as the scrumptious piano concerto. And the delightful 3rd Suite, for viola and cello.
No 5 'Funebre' is my favourite.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).