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Re: Kodály's Covert Clan
« Reply #60 on: June 09, 2021, 03:03:41 PM »
Like you, that is one I haven't heard in some time as well. The Symphony didn't leave an impression on me at the time; maybe I will revisit it again. Your video of Tortelier on Chandos is one I have, paired with a Concerto for Orchestra and Theatre Overture I am not remembering too well either.

Concerto for Orchestra is my personal favorite while I like his other works as well.

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Re: Kodály's Covert Clan
« Reply #61 on: June 09, 2021, 10:07:23 PM »
No mention (recently at least) for Kodaly's chamber music or works for unaccompanied chorus.  These are two fields where I think he particularly excelled.  Much as I enjoy the (quite small) body of orchestral music I can't say it sticks with me in a way other works do....



The frustrating thing is that apart from some hard to find and expensive Hungaraton discs the chorus works are all but impossible to source.

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Re: Kodály's Covert Clan
« Reply #62 on: June 10, 2021, 02:06:07 AM »
No mention (recently at least) for Kodaly's chamber music or works for unaccompanied chorus.  These are two fields where I think he particularly excelled.  Much as I enjoy the (quite small) body of orchestral music I can't say it sticks with me in a way other works do....

The frustrating thing is that apart from some hard to find and expensive Hungaraton discs the chorus works are all but impossible to source.

Plus there are so many volumes of unaccompanied choral works on Hungaroton. But, it was this folk-based music that he centered his music education philosophies around, so they remain important. I don't know them nearly as well as I probably should. For another day...
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Re: Kodály's Covert Clan
« Reply #63 on: June 10, 2021, 02:21:40 AM »
Plus there are so many volumes of unaccompanied choral works on Hungaroton. But, it was this folk-based music that he centered his music education philosophies around, so they remain important. I don't know them nearly as well as I probably should. For another day...

yes indeed but there are some discs which focus more on the concert rather than educational works and there is a lot of glorious music there.  Also, there is such a strong central European tradition in their choirs that the actual sound these groups make is wonderful (I think much the same about Smetana and Jancek's choral music)

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« Reply #64 on: June 10, 2021, 02:23:39 AM »
Also, there is such a strong central European tradition in their choirs that the actual sound these groups make is wonderful (I think much the same about Smetana and Jancek's choral music)

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Re: Kodály's Covert Clan
« Reply #65 on: June 11, 2021, 02:27:27 AM »
No mention (recently at least) for Kodaly's chamber music or works for unaccompanied chorus.  These are two fields where I think he particularly excelled.  Much as I enjoy the (quite small) body of orchestral music I can't say it sticks with me in a way other works do....



The frustrating thing is that apart from some hard to find and expensive Hungaraton discs the chorus works are all but impossible to source.
I haven't heard his string quartets before but will see if I might be able to listen to them online....looking forward to it!  :)

Agreed!
VonStupp,

Are you a fan of his music for cello and cello/piano?  That was how I was first introduced to his music.  When I heard his Sonata for Solo Cello, my jaw dropped!

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Re: Kodály's Covert Clan
« Reply #66 on: June 11, 2021, 10:47:22 AM »
I haven't heard his string quartets before but will see if I might be able to listen to them online....looking forward to it!  :)  Are you a fan of his music for cello and cello/piano?  That was how I was first introduced to his music.  When I heard his Sonata for Solo Cello, my jaw dropped!

I am afraid my knowledge of Kodály ends with his choral and orchestral music. I will make sure to check out this sonata you mentioned!
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Re: Kodály's Covert Clan
« Reply #67 on: June 12, 2021, 05:16:44 AM »
I am afraid my knowledge of Kodály ends with his choral and orchestral music. I will make sure to check out this sonata you mentioned!
VS
I did find this video for you with Janos Starker.  If you're not familiar with his recordings, you should really check them out.  He was an amazing cellist and was justly identified with this work.  I was trying to find an earlier film of him (from the 1950's) which I had stumbled across once but am unable to now.  The sound level is a bit low here; I would suggest either using headphones or if you have a decent pair of computer speakers hooking them up.  There are also other recordings of him on youtube from either LPs, concerts, etc. too.  I don't play the cello or any other instrument, but it looks to me to be an exceedingly difficult piece to play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5D4_cZ0f0s

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p.s.  The Kodaly starts about 30 minutes in (see comments...think that it was the third one down for timings).
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Re: Kodály's Covert Clan
« Reply #68 on: June 12, 2021, 06:31:13 AM »
I did find this video for you with Janos Starker.  If you're not familiar with his recordings, you should really check them out.  He was an amazing cellist and was justly identified with this work.  I was trying to find an earlier film of him (from the 1950's) which I had stumbled across once but am unable to now.  The sound level is a bit low here; I would suggest either using headphones or if you have a decent pair of computer speakers hooking them up.  There are also other recordings of him on youtube from either LPs, concerts, etc. too.  I don't play the cello or any other instrument, but it looks to me to be an exceedingly difficult piece to play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5D4_cZ0f0s

PD

p.s.  The Kodaly starts about 30 minutes in (see comments...think that it was the third one down for timings).

I do have a couple of János Starker on Mercury Living Presence; the Dvorak Cello Concerto and the Bach Cello Suites come to mind. I see there was a 'Starker plays Kodaly' on Delos; I may check it out too. Thanks and I will check out that video the next time I can sit at a computer! VS
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Re: Kodály's Covert Clan
« Reply #69 on: June 12, 2021, 01:50:41 PM »

I have the following CD in the mail, after several recommendations attesting to it being a superb set of performances and it seems a fine introduction to those interested in this composer:



Just ordered this, knowing little of Kodály's music, but liking what I heard. I reckon it should be a good introduction.