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Re: Six favourite symphonies by (really) lesser-known composers.
« Reply #200 on: March 05, 2017, 07:54:45 AM »
Aarre Merikanto: #2
Luis de Freitas Branco: #3
York Bowen: #2
Jan van Gilse: #3
Ludolf Nielsen: #3
Bernard Zweers: #3

Bonus tracks
George W. Chadwick: #3
August de Boeck: Symphony in G major
Alexander Gretchaninov: #5

The first two I like although the Freitas Branco No.4 is my favourite of his cycle. Never really got on with Bowen. I like the Gretchaninov No.4. Didn't realise there was a No.5  ::)
Listening to the Madetoja symphonies at the moment. Very sad that the almost complete manuscript of No.4 was apparently stolen at a railway station.
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Re: Six favourite symphonies by (really) lesser-known composers.
« Reply #201 on: March 05, 2017, 08:21:13 PM »
The first two I like although the Freitas Branco No.4 is my favourite of his cycle. Never really got on with Bowen. I like the Gretchaninov No.4. Didn't realise there was a No.5  ::)
Listening to the Madetoja symphonies at the moment. Very sad that the almost complete manuscript of No.4 was apparently stolen at a railway station.

Yes. Gretchaninov wrote 5 symphonies: 2nd, 4th and 5th are the most appealing IMHO. I haven't listened to those symphonies by Madetoja. I hope heard them very soon  ;D

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« Reply #202 on: March 06, 2017, 06:13:52 AM »
Six lesser-knowns that I came to know - or, in the case of Ben-Haim, heard again after 35 years - more recently:

Paul Graener, Symphony in D Minor 'Schmied Schmerz' Op. 39 (1912)
Bernhard van Dieren, Symphony No. 1 'Chinese' or 'Choral' Symphony (1914)
Eivind Groven, Symphony No. 1 'Towards the Mountains' (1938/51)
George Enescu, Symphony No. 5 in D Major (for tenor, female chorus and orch.) (1941)
Paul Ben-Haim, Symphony No. 2 Op. 36 (1945)
Willem van Otterloo, Symphony No. 2 (1945-46)



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Re: Six favourite symphonies by (really) lesser-known composers.
« Reply #203 on: March 08, 2017, 01:41:30 PM »
Six lesser-knowns that I came to know - or, in the case of Ben-Haim, heard again after 35 years - more recently:

Paul Graener, Symphony in D Minor 'Schmied Schmerz' Op. 39 (1912)
Bernhard van Dieren, Symphony No. 1 'Chinese' or 'Choral' Symphony (1914)
Eivind Groven, Symphony No. 1 'Towards the Mountains' (1938/51)
George Enescu, Symphony No. 5 in D Major (for tenor, female chorus and orch.) (1941)
Paul Ben-Haim, Symphony No. 2 Op. 36 (1945)
Willem van Otterloo, Symphony No. 2 (1945-46)
I really like both of the Ben-Haim symphonies.
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Re: Six favourite symphonies by (really) lesser-known composers.
« Reply #204 on: March 15, 2017, 04:58:42 AM »
  • Avet Terterian: Symphony No. 3
  • Lepo Sumera: Symphony No. 2
  • Kamran Ince: Symphony No. 2
  • Brenton Broadstock: Symphony No. 4, Born from Good Angel's Tears
  • Thieri Pécou: Symphonie du Jaguar
  • Alireza Mashayekhi: Symphony No. 9, My World

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« Reply #205 on: May 17, 2019, 08:19:43 AM »
Ross Edwards: Symphony No 1 'Da pacem Domine' (Australian) ABC CD
Never forgot the recommendation, and am now finally listening to my own copy - actually two copies, as I bought both performances in last week's ABC sales at JPC (Germany).
One is with the Sydney SO under David Porcelijn, the other the Adelaide SO under Richard Mills:
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« Reply #206 on: May 24, 2019, 12:56:28 PM »
It's been more than 2 years I didn't post anything here. At the moment I have these others:

Mamoru Samuragochi/Takashi Niigaki - Symphony No. 1 Hiroshima. This was actually written by the latter and was attributed to the former in one of the more resonated hoaxes of recent times. It's a mighty and impressive score, very in the vein of Mahler, lasting around 80 minutes. Niigaki also composed another interesting symphony, the Symphony Litany.

Kalervo Tuukkanen - Symphony No. 3 The Sea

Finn Mortensen - Symphony

Philip Sawyers - Symphony No. 2

Francisco Mignone - Sinfonia Tropical

Thomas Schmidt-Kowalski - Symphony No. 3

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Re: Six favourite symphonies by (really) lesser-known composers.
« Reply #207 on: May 24, 2019, 12:59:22 PM »
  • Avet Terterian: Symphony No. 3
  • Lepo Sumera: Symphony No. 2
  • Kamran Ince: Symphony No. 2
  • Brenton Broadstock: Symphony No. 4, Born from Good Angel's Tears
  • Thieri Pécou: Symphonie du Jaguar
  • Alireza Mashayekhi: Symphony No. 9, My World

You mentioned my favorites by Terterian and Sumera. The Terterian with its arresting timpani passages, at first I thought it was a timpani concerto. The Sumera has a transcendent feel to it which appeals to me largely. I don't know the others you posted, but certainly they seem interesting.

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Re: Six favourite symphonies by (really) lesser-known composers.
« Reply #208 on: May 24, 2019, 03:50:10 PM »
Halvor Haug: Symphony No. 1
Halvor Haug: Symphony No. 2
Kevin Puts: Symphony No. 1
Kevin Puts: Symphony No. 2
Lepo Sumera: Symphony No. 2
Pehr Nordgren: Symphonies 3

Honorable Mention:
Derek Bourgeois: Symphony No. 9
Derek Bourgeois: Symphony No. 33

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« Reply #209 on: May 24, 2019, 11:19:50 PM »
Great to see so many 'new' symphonies here; I recall being very much impressed by all the Sumera, Haug, Nordgren and Terterian I heard (but it's all some time ago). 'New' symphonies I've been playing and highly enjoying over the last couple of months include:

Volkmar Andreae (1879-1962), Symphony in C (1919)
Luís de Freitas Branco (1890-1955), Symphony No. 2 (1926)
Ina Boyle (1889-1967), Symphony No. 1 'Glencree' (1927)
Czesław Marek (1891–1985), Sinfonia (1928)
Cyril Rootham (1875-1938), Symphony No. 2 (1938)
Paul Ben-Haim (1897-1984), Symphony No. 1 (1940)
Paul Graener (1872-1944), Wiener Symphonie (1941)
Arthur Benjamin (1893-1960), Symphony No. 1 (1945)
Paul von Klenau (1883-1946), Symphony No. 9 (1945)
Jan Koetsier (1911-2006), Symphony No. 2 (1946)
Walter Braunfels (1882-1954), Sinfonia Brevis (1948)
Mathieu Vibert (1920-1987), Symphonie funèbre (1949)
Jean-Michel Damase (1928-2013), Symphonie (1952)
Grace Williams (1906-1977), Symphony No. 2 (1956)
Hendrik Andriessen (1892-1981), Symphonie Concertante ['No. 5'] (1962)
Wilhelm Georg Berger (1929-1993), Symphony No. 4 (1964)
Ester Mägi (*1922), Symphony (1968)
Ruth Gipps (1921-1999), Symphony No. 4 (1972)
Ross Edwards (*1943), Symphony No. 1 'Da pacem Domine' (1991)

If I had to pick out six favourites - I have - they would be those by Andreae, Rootham, Ben-Haim, Benjamin, Andriessen, Gipps.  ;D
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Re: Six favourite symphonies by (really) lesser-known composers.
« Reply #210 on: May 24, 2019, 11:27:31 PM »
Never forgot the recommendation, and am now finally listening to my own copy - actually two copies, as I bought both performances in last week's ABC sales at JPC (Germany).
One is with the Sydney SO under David Porcelijn, the other the Adelaide SO under Richard Mills:

I have the two recordings as well Johan. Am glad you enjoyed it as I see that it's added to your favourites list above.
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« Reply #211 on: May 24, 2019, 11:43:43 PM »
Tishchenko: Symphony No. 7
Butterworth: Symphony No. 1
Sterndale-Bennett: Symphony in G minor
Gipps: Symphony No. 2
Lyatoshynsky: Symphony No. 3
Mathias: Symphony No. 2

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« Reply #212 on: May 27, 2019, 12:25:33 PM »
Halvor Haug: Symphony No. 1
Halvor Haug: Symphony No. 2
Kevin Puts: Symphony No. 1
Kevin Puts: Symphony No. 2
Lepo Sumera: Symphony No. 2
Pehr Nordgren: Symphonies 3

Honorable Mention:
Derek Bourgeois: Symphony No. 9
Derek Bourgeois: Symphony No. 33

I wish I could find a recording of Puts’ 1st Symphony. The 2nd is a deeply impressive work.
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« Reply #213 on: May 27, 2019, 12:34:03 PM »
I forget when I last posted on this thread, but here goes:

Alan Bush: Symphony no. 2 Nottingham
Jean-Michel Damase: Symphonie
Ulvi Cemal Erkin: Symphony no. 1
Alexander Moyzes: Symphony no. 7
Ludolf Nielsen: Symphony no. 3
Yngve Sköld: Symphony no. 2

Hon. mentions:
Aubert Lemeland: Symphony no. 9
Edvard Mirzoyan: Symphony for Strings and Timpani
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« Reply #214 on: May 27, 2019, 01:03:29 PM »
I don't know too many lesser known (at least on this forum) symphonies, but lately I have been impressed with:

Symphony No. 7, Op. 49, "Les dances de la vie" by Tournemire, a unique and grabbing work.

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« Reply #215 on: May 27, 2019, 01:27:51 PM »
I don't know too many lesser known (at least on this forum) symphonies, but lately I have been impressed with:

Symphony No. 7, Op. 49, "Les dances de la vie" by Tournemire, a unique and grabbing work.

Tournemire was a composer of great imagination and originality. It’s just a shame that most of the recordings of his symphonies available are rather poor (especially the ones on Marco Polo). I’d love to hear what a top-tier orchestra, conductor, and record company could do with his music.
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« Reply #216 on: May 27, 2019, 07:35:08 PM »
Tournemire was a composer of great imagination and originality. It’s just a shame that most of the recordings of his symphonies available are rather poor (especially the ones on Marco Polo). I’d love to hear what a top-tier orchestra, conductor, and record company could do with his music.

His Symphony 'Moscow' is especially good and I agree that he was a fine composer
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« Reply #217 on: May 27, 2019, 08:04:43 PM »
I continue to read these lists with great interest.
Here's (another  ::)) new list from me, choosing different works from my original list:

Damase: 'Symphonie' (pleased to see that this is still a hit for Kyle  :))
Ruth Gipps: Symphony 4 (fabulous new release)
Freitas Branco: Symphony 4
Rootham: Symphony 2
Puts: Symphony 2
Bate: Symphony 4
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« Reply #218 on: May 28, 2019, 12:05:40 AM »
Willem Pijper: symphony nr. 2
Willem Pijper: Symphony nr. 3
Mathijs Vermeulen: Symphony nr. 4 "Les victoires"
Eivind Groven: Symphony nr. 2
Gunther Kochan: Symphony nr. 2
Victor Kalabis: Symphony nr. 2

I hope Koechlin's mighty symphony nr. 2 will get a new (and very complete) recording
Belgian symphonies I like: Sternefeld 1 & 2 (Brueghel) , Meulemans 6 (The sea) and 12, Norbert Rosseau Symphony op. 53.

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« Reply #219 on: May 28, 2019, 02:20:05 AM »
Willem Pijper: symphony nr. 2
Willem Pijper: Symphony nr. 3
Mathijs Vermeulen: Symphony nr. 4 "Les victoires"
Eivind Groven: Symphony nr. 2
Gunther Kochan: Symphony nr. 2
Victor Kalabis: Symphony nr. 2

I hope Koechlin's mighty symphony nr. 2 will get a new (and very complete) recording
Belgian symphonies I like: Sternefeld 1 & 2 (Brueghel) , Meulemans 6 (The sea) and 12, Norbert Rosseau Symphony op. 53.
+1 for 'Sinfonia Pacis' by Kalabis.
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