Six favourite symphonies by (really) lesser-known composers.

Started by vandermolen, March 23, 2009, 04:21:40 AM

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jimmosk

And Daverz has also recommended Ludolf Nielsen's 3rd.

While I wouldn't call it a favorite, Siegfried Wagner's symphony is also pretty good -- and unexpectedly Mahlerian.
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"On the whole, I think the whole musical world is oblivious of all the bitterness, resentment, iconoclasm, and denunciation that lies behind my music." --Percy Grainger(!)

snyprrr

Ha...the more you guys throw syms at me, the stronger my resolve to enjoy what I already have grows!!! 0:) 

weakness!!! weakness I say!!! $:)

ahh...life with no cares...


WeRoica

Rued Langgaard      --> 2  "Vaarbrud"  - 1912-14
Kurt Atterberg        --> 7  "Sinfonia Romantica", Op. 45  - 1942
Dag Wiren              --> 2  Op. 14 - 1963
Joachim Raff           --> 8  "Frülingsklange", Op. 205  - 1876
Niels Gade              --> 4   in B flat major, Op.20 - 1842
Alice Mary Smith     --> in A minor  -  1876

not edward

I don't think I'd seen this particular iteration of this thread before, though I've contributed to previous ones.

It was good to see mention of Corcoran and Terterian: both the symphonies mentioned there are striking works that I listened to a great deal at one point.

My own personal six would probably contain some of the following, though some of these composers might not be deemed obscure enough:

Popov 1
Langgaard 4
Brian 8
Hartmann 6
Gerhard 1
Ustvolskaya 3
Kancheli 6
B. A. Zimmermann Symphony in One Movement
"I don't at all mind actively disliking a piece of contemporary music, but in order to feel happy about it I must consciously understand why I dislike it. Otherwise it remains in my mind as unfinished business."
-- Aaron Copland, The Pleasures of Music

schweitzeralan

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Quote from: Teresa on March 29, 2009, 03:52:21 AM
I really love Turina's Sinfonía sevillana and William Grant Still's `Afro-American' Symphony.  I haven't heard the others, so many new composers I've discovered thanks to this thread.  Thanks everyone!  ;)

Are you familiar with William Grant Still's piano works? Like Seven Traceries?  Or the 5 Preludes? The music is quite different from the Afro American, "Blues" style which permeate his symphonic works.  The piano works tend to be modal, much chord parallel, exotic minor and overall impressionistic. It's like a sort of dual personality.  I didn't care personally for a couple of his symphonies.  I wonder if there are some orchestral pieces that are similar to, let's say, "Marionette."

Teresa

Quote from: schweitzeralan on May 15, 2009, 04:35:16 AM
Are you familiar with William Grant Still's piano works? Like Seven Traceries?  Or the 5 Preludes? The music is quite different from the Afro American, "Blues" style which permeate his symphonic works.  The piano works tend to be modal, much chord parallel, exotic minor and overall impressionistic. It's like a sort of dual personality.  I didn't care personally for a couple of his symphonies.  I wonder if there are some orchestral pieces that are similar to, let's say, "Marionette."
No I am sorry to say, I'm not into solo piano works but more into orchestral works though I do like a lot of piano with orchestra works. 

Sorin Eushayson

#107
Here I am again!  ;D

Shout out to Symphony No. 3 by one Franz Berwald.  That thing'll knock your socks off!!!  :o

Check out the F-Sharp Minor symphony of American composer George Frideric Bristow while you're at it, too. ;)  The only one of Bristow's works recorded, it seems...  :'(

vandermolen

New list:

Alf Hurum: Symphony (thanks to Greg)

Samuel Jones: Symphony 3 'Palo Duro Canyon' (Naxos)

Balanchivadze: Symphony No 1 (great work - not on CD unfortunately)

Rudolph Simonsen: Symphony No 1 'Zion' (CPO)

Vladimir Scherbachov: Symphony No 5 (Northern Flowers)

Armstrong Gibbs: Symphony No 3 'Westmorland' (Marco Polo)

"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Dundonnell

Quote from: vandermolen on May 16, 2009, 03:24:07 AM
New list:

Alf Hurum: Symphony (thanks to Greg)

Samuel Jones: Symphony 3 'Palo Duro Canyon' (Naxos)

Balanchivadze: Symphony No 1 (great work - not on CD unfortunately)

Rudolph Simonsen: Symphony No 1 'Zion' (CPO)

Vladimir Scherbachov: Symphony No 5 (Northern Flowers)

Armstrong Gibbs: Symphony No 3 'Westmorland' (Marco Polo)



I have the Scherbachov but have not yet had time to listen to it. The Hurum is great, isn't it :) One of the best Norwegian symphonies I have heard!

vandermolen

Quote from: Dundonnell on May 16, 2009, 02:19:16 PM
I have the Scherbachov but have not yet had time to listen to it. The Hurum is great, isn't it :) One of the best Norwegian symphonies I have heard!

You will like the Scherbachov (although it goes a bit Socialist Realist in the last movement) - yes, the Hurum is great.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

vandermolen

#111
I should have included Robin Orr's Symphony in one movement - in some ways my favourite type of symphony - craggy, tonal, epic and darkly moving (and this in 17 minutes). It reminds me a bit of Havergal Brian (ie Symphony No eight) and also Carlos Chavez (Symphony No 4).  It must have been really at odds with the musical thinking of the period 1960-3 when it was composed. It features on a very interesting CD:

"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

snyprrr

Wait a minute...considering your latest list (the most humorously obscure list I've ever seen...good work!), I would almost have to consider Orr almost a household name, at least on the thread! ;D

You did recommend him to me a while back. Have you been ordering too many cds? $:)

jimmosk

Quote from: snyprrr on May 20, 2009, 08:05:24 PM
...considering your latest list (the most humorously obscure list I've ever seen...good work!),

How could that be the most obscure list you've ever seen, when all but one of them are on in-print CDs, including big labels like Marco Polo and CPO?  Surely there are lots of symphonies that were only ever released on LP [edit: I originally mistyped 'CD' here], or never recorded at all... anyone know of a page that is to symphonies what Tobias Bröker's list is to violin concertos?
Jim Moskowitz / The Unknown Composers Page / http://kith.org/jimmosk
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"On the whole, I think the whole musical world is oblivious of all the bitterness, resentment, iconoclasm, and denunciation that lies behind my music." --Percy Grainger(!)

schweitzeralan

Quote from: Dundonnell on May 16, 2009, 02:19:16 PM
I have the Scherbachov but have not yet had time to listen to it. The Hurum is great, isn't it :) One of the best Norwegian symphonies I have heard!

Of those composers mentioned in your list I am familiar only with C. Armstrong Gibbs.  His Westmorland symphonies are fine.  I love his piano works entitled "Lakeland Pictures."  Very English in the Baxian, Moeran, Howells tradition.

vandermolen

Quote from: snyprrr on May 20, 2009, 08:05:24 PM
Wait a minute...considering your latest list (the most humorously obscure list I've ever seen...good work!), I would almost have to consider Orr almost a household name, at least on the thread! ;D

You did recommend him to me a while back. Have you been ordering too many cds? $:)

You can never buy "too many CDs" (although my wife would dispute this..."must you buy ANOTHER CD?"...she doesn't understand  :'(

"humorously obscure list"!!!
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Dundonnell

Quote from: vandermolen on May 16, 2009, 03:51:02 PM
You will like the Scherbachov (although it goes a bit Socialist Realist in the last movement) - yes, the Hurum is great.

I like the first three movements of the Scherbachov very much...but yes, the last movement does rather let the piece down! I found the accompanying Suite "The Tobacco Captain" terribly twee and wearisome though.

owlice


vandermolen

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Quote from: Dundonnell on May 28, 2009, 05:42:54 AM
I like the first three movements of the Scherbachov very much...but yes, the last movement does rather let the piece down! I found the accompanying Suite "The Tobacco Captain" terribly twee and wearisome though.

Yes, I will not be playing the Tobacco Captain again!

Two great new discoveries thanks to Greg:

Stale Kleiberg: Symphony No 1: The Bell Reef (1991) which commemorates the sinking of a ship, in 1537 (we history teachers like dates) carrying five bells destined for a Stavanger Cathedral - the bells could then, according to legend, sometimes be heard chiming beneath the waves - wonderfully atmospheric and deeply moving score, especially the last movement which features the chiming bells between the waves.

Yngve Skold: Symphony No 2 (1937)
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

owlice

:: sighs ::

:: checks bank balance ::

:: Googles for a source for two great new discoveries ::