120 Greatest Chamber Works!!!

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George

#20
March 26, 2009, 07:47:03 AM
Quote from: DavidRoss on March 26, 2009, 07:15:36 AM
It's not a knock on Schumann, for instance, to say he doesn't quite stand with Bach, and I suspect he would be the first to agree.  The issue really is about the meaning of words.  If "great" is to mean anything in this context other than "yeah, dude, I heard of him," then we must restrain our use of it instead of applying it to every Tom, Dick, and Harry just because we like their music.  Hell, I like Copland, Barber, Gershwin, and Ives.  I like them a lot, in fact.  And they're also Americans, like me, and there just might be a little bit of national pride in their accomplishments.  Plus they had some influence in 20th Century music, and damned near everyone knows who they are.  But none of that makes them great, certainly not in the way we all agree that Beethoven and Mozart were great, and to claim otherwise is just foolishness.

Great post, David.

bwv 1080

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March 26, 2009, 07:56:05 AM
Personally I find it helpful to have my computer in front of me when listening to chamber music, that way I can access my personal ranking database and revise or add to the rankings as needed.  Once the list got above 1,203 entries I found that I needed to attach MP3 clips and PDFs of the score to each entry so as to better assess which work was superior to the others.  It also allows me to complile a list of results from Chi-square analysis of my list compared to other publish lists.  The p-value of the first 120 names of my list ver 2009.03.26.v3.2 is 0.08532 which means that I am in agreement at the 5% significance level.

DavidRoss

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March 26, 2009, 08:00:31 AM
Quote from: bwv 1080 on March 26, 2009, 07:56:05 AM
Personally I find it helpful to have my computer in front of me when listening to chamber music, that way I can access my personal ranking database and revise or add to the rankings as needed.  Once the list got above 1,203 entries I found that I needed to attach MP3 clips and PDFs of the score to each entry so as to better assess which work was superior to the others.  It also allows me to complile a list of results from Chi-square analysis of my list compared to other publish lists.  The p-value of the first 120 names of my list ver 2009.03.26.v3.2 is 0.08532 which means that I am in agreement at the 5% significance level.
Straight out of the MENSA Manual on Music Appreciation, I see.



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bwv 1080

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March 26, 2009, 08:35:50 AM Last Edit: March 26, 2009, 09:01:22 AM by bwv 1080
Quote from: DavidRoss on March 26, 2009, 08:00:31 AM
Straight out of the MENSA Manual on Music Appreciation, I see.

Well, I am one of the co-authors



QuoteDo intellectuals really have more fun?

Yes, you should see the shenanigans at the local chapter meetings when we tabulate our results among the group and complile a histogram.

George

#24
March 26, 2009, 08:45:38 AM
Quote from: DavidRoss on March 26, 2009, 08:00:31 AM
Do intellectuals really have more fun?

Only at others' expense.

DavidRoss

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March 26, 2009, 08:46:18 AM
Quote from: bwv 1080 on March 26, 2009, 08:35:50 AM
Yes, you should see the shenanigans at the local chapter meetings when we tabulate our results among the group and complile a histogram.
With approximately 3.271 x 106 recordings to rank, microtonal spectrum analysis of the resulting color chart must really be a blast!
"Maybe the problem most of you have ... is that you're not listening to Barbirolli." ~Sarge

"The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money." ~Margaret Thatcher

DavidRoss

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March 26, 2009, 08:51:56 AM
Quote from: George on March 26, 2009, 07:47:03 AM
Great post, David.
Thanks, George.  (Sorry, I almost missed that in my enthusiasm over Steve's ranking method.  I shared it with my wife and she immediately got to work on a program that can do the analysis straight off the digital data file and spare us all the inevitable imprecision that creeps in when we actually listen to the recordings!  Maybe we can bundle it with the new MP3 HD coder announced on another thread!)
"Maybe the problem most of you have ... is that you're not listening to Barbirolli." ~Sarge

"The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money." ~Margaret Thatcher

Bogey

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March 26, 2009, 08:54:06 AM
Quote from: DavidRoss on March 26, 2009, 08:51:56 AM
Thanks, George.  (Sorry, I almost missed that in my enthusiasm over Steve's ranking method.  I shared it with my wife and she immediately got to work on a program that can do the analysis straight off the digital data file and spare us all the inevitable imprecision that creeps in when we actually listen to the recordings!  Maybe we can bundle it with the new MP3 HD coder announced on another thread!)

Can I get that on vinyl....mono preferred.

There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

George

#28
March 26, 2009, 08:55:38 AM
Quote from: Bogey on March 26, 2009, 08:54:06 AM
Can I get that on vinyl....mono preferred.



Sorry, only available on SACD.
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