Big name artists in big box sets

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Coopmv

Quote from: Lethe on May 22, 2009, 07:13:36 AM
Hehe, nice one ;D I agree, of all the majors, Sony has been by far the stupidest in letting mountains of wonders rot in unavailability ::)

Someone should write a letter to Howard Stringer, the Welsh-born American CEO of Sony, the first non-Japanese CEO to run Sony so he can do some house-cleaning at Sony/BMG Classics ...

Grazioso

Quote from: Brian on May 22, 2009, 06:18:41 AM
Not big enough for us.  ;D

I agree, but it's (slightly) better than nothing. If they ever get their act together and follow EMI and Universal's lead and release some huge boxes of (properly remastered) Ormandy, Szell, and Lenny, I'll be first in line to buy them. Hello, Sony, do you want my money??
There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact. --Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

George

Quote from: Grazioso on May 23, 2009, 04:18:28 AM
Hello, Sony, do you want my money??

;D

I suggest offering bananas instead.

Coopmv

Quote from: George on May 23, 2009, 04:28:04 AM
;D

I suggest offering bananas instead.

Sony has already stepped on banana peel.  Its earnings have gone to hell ...


haydnguy

I think it was Sony that put software on their audio CD's without telling anyone several years ago and then ended up having to recall all of them and offer refunds and replacements. Truly stupid.  :-X

Coopmv

Quote from: BaxMan on May 23, 2009, 03:30:22 PM
I think it was Sony that put software on their audio CD's without telling anyone several years ago and then ended up having to recall all of them and offer refunds and replacements. Truly stupid.  :-X

Sony is still too hardware-centric and it may not be a good idea for the company to remain in the movie and music business in the long run.  The Dutch electronics giant Philips used to have its own music business in Polygram/Polydor and ended up selling it to focus on hardware.  The Sony business model is akin to the concept of financial supermarket, which has been proven time and again not to work ...

Brian



The new erato

Quote from: Lethe on May 22, 2009, 07:13:36 AM
Hehe, nice one ;D I agree, of all the majors, Sony has been by far the stupidest in letting mountains of wonders rot in unavailability ::)
They managed to reissue the Gould/Rozniak recording of Hindemiths Marienleben, at 77 minutes, as a CD double, with no texts, at single disc full price (or duble disc budget price). Whether that is proof of that stupidity, or of a certain business acumen, I'm not completely sure.

Coopmv

Quote from: erato on May 24, 2009, 01:51:48 AM
They managed to reissue the Gould/Rozniak recording of Hindemiths Marienleben, at 77 minutes, as a CD double, with no texts, at single disc full price (or duble disc budget price). Whether that is proof of that stupidity, or of a certain business acumen, I'm not completely sure.

Instead of coming out with a worthy successor to the game-changing Walkman, Sony let Apple stole the thunder with iPod.  Now I do not know how popular iPod is in Europe, but it is extremely popular in the US (I don't own one as I am the anti-Apple person so far).  Mind you when Sony first came out with the Walkman and then the Discman and the Trinitron TV, it did not yet have much entertainment business, ie movie and music.  These days, Sony has been losing money hands over fists overall.  You have to wonder if the entertainment side of its business should be let go ...

Coopmv

Quote from: erato on May 24, 2009, 01:51:48 AM
They managed to reissue the Gould/Rozniak recording of Hindemiths Marienleben, at 77 minutes, as a CD double, with no texts, at single disc full price (or duble disc budget price). Whether that is proof of that stupidity, or of a certain business acumen, I'm not completely sure.

Sony Music has no clue as to how to correctly price its classical CD's.  While its roster of artists are by no means superior to those of its competitors, Sony Music continuously overprices its CD's IMO.  This shows a total lack of business acumen.  In this era when consumers shop for values and Sony Music really does not have any special values to offer, people will not overpay to get Sony CD's, period.

Brian

Quote from: Coopmv on May 24, 2009, 09:27:22 AM
Sony Music has no clue as to how to correctly price its classical CD's.  While its roster of artists are by no means superior to those of its competitors, Sony Music continuously overprices its CD's IMO.  This shows a total lack of business acumen.  In this era when consumers shop for values and Sony Music really does not have any special values to offer, people will not overpay to get Sony CD's, period.
Yeah, their Fabio Luisi CDs are $24, so I won't touch 'em.

Coopmv

Quote from: Brian on May 24, 2009, 09:47:50 AM
Yeah, their Fabio Luisi CDs are $24, so I won't touch 'em.

Brian, Pardon my ignorance, but who is Fabio Luisi?


Bulldog

Quote from: Brian on May 24, 2009, 09:47:50 AM
Yeah, their Fabio Luisi CDs are $24, so I won't touch 'em.

But they're SACDs.  Not impressed?

Coopmv

Quote from: Bulldog on May 24, 2009, 10:05:53 AM
But they're SACDs.  Not impressed?

Does Sony actually release hybrid SACD's?

Brian

Quote from: Coopmv on May 24, 2009, 09:49:50 AM


Brian, Pardon my ignorance, but who is Fabio Luisi?


He leads the Dresden Staatskapelle.

Bulldog


Coopmv

Quote from: Brian on May 25, 2009, 10:11:54 AM
He leads the Dresden Staatskapelle.

Did he succeed Herbert Blomstedt?

Brian

Quote from: Coopmv on May 25, 2009, 10:19:07 AM
Did he succeed Herbert Blomstedt?
From Wikipedia (dates are the beginnings of each conductor's term):
Otmar Suitner (1960) · Kurt Sanderling (1964) · Martin Turnovský (1966) · Herbert Blomstedt (1975) · Hans Vonk (1985) · Giuseppe Sinopoli (1992) · Bernard Haitink (2002) · Fabio Luisi (2007)

Daverz

Quote from: Brian on May 22, 2009, 06:18:41 AM
Not big enough for us.  ;D

Since Sony was Sony/BMG when they issued this, they could have included some of Ormandy's RCA recordings that have only been available in Japan (e.g. the Mendelssohn Walpurgisnacht only available from Tower Japan).  They've already been digitized.  But there there is lots of great Ormandy stuff that has never been on CD, like his Prokofiev Symphonies 4, 6 (one mono, one stereo), and 7; and some great recordings of American symphonies by Harris, Schuman, and Piston that could use remastering.  Instead we get a very unimaginative box of retreads.