Brahms VC

Started by Michel, May 29, 2007, 12:22:34 AM

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Steve

Quote from: Rabin_Fan on June 07, 2007, 10:45:55 PM
Heard the Milstein-Fistoulari, Heifetz-Reiner and Krebbers in succession during the drive to work today.

For fiery-ness, Milstein is tops. Heifetz's last mvt is not very stable in terms of rhythm. Krebbers is excellent for rhythm in the last mvt.

Not stable in rhythm?

Rabin_Fan

Krebbers was after Heifetz on my I-Pod. His rhythm is more commanding relative to Heifetz in the 3rd mvt. Check it out if you have both versions.

mahlertitan

no mention for Mutter/Karajan?

Steve

Quote from: MahlerTitan on June 11, 2007, 08:05:59 AM
no mention for Mutter/Karajan?

Mutter's Brahms.......  :o

Not for me, mon vieux.

mahlertitan

Quote from: Steve on June 11, 2007, 08:08:19 AM
Mutter's Brahms.......  :o

Not for me, mon vieux.

i think it's fine, and deserves a mention.

MishaK

Quote from: MahlerTitan on June 11, 2007, 09:33:08 AM
i think it's fine, and deserves a mention.

Yes, but only the Karajan version, not the later Masur-slo-mo-molasses-fest.

mahlertitan

Quote from: O Mensch on June 11, 2007, 10:12:47 AM
Yes, but only the Karajan version, not the later Masur-slo-mo-molasses-fest.

yeah, of course i am talking about the karajan version.

Rabin_Fan

Mutter-Karajan - tempos, rhythm, playing all very fine. It is just her vibrato and tone that is an acquired taste for me.

Sergeant Rock

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Quote from: MahlerTitan on June 11, 2007, 08:05:59 AM
no mention for Mutter/Karajan?

Quote from: MahlerTitan on June 11, 2007, 09:33:08 AM
i think it's fine, and deserves a mention.

You know I love her, MT.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Sergeant Rock

I like her Brahms too  ;D

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

head-case

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Quote from: hornteacher on May 29, 2007, 03:10:18 AM
Hahn/Marriner

8)

After listening to excerpts, I would say this is the worst recording of the Brahms VC I have ever heard, mostly because of Marriner. 

head-case

Quote from: MahlerTitan on June 11, 2007, 08:05:59 AM
no mention for Mutter/Karajan?

It is one of those CD's that's been on my shelf for a long time, but I recall it as a very fine effort, indeed.

MishaK

Quote from: head-case on June 11, 2007, 02:44:50 PM
After listening to excerpts, I would say this is the worst recording of the Brahms VC I have ever heard, mostly because of Marriner. 

I think you need to listen again on a better system. The violin playing is unquestionably superlative, even if the orchestral work is a bit square.

Philoctetes

David Oistrakh is the one I prefer.
Though I am not really a huge fan of concertos in general.

hornteacher

Quote from: head-case on June 11, 2007, 02:44:50 PM
After listening to excerpts, I would say this is the worst recording of the Brahms VC I have ever heard, mostly because of Marriner.

.......in your opinion, (and you are entitled to it), but the people who awarded it a Grammy and made it a bestselling CD would tend to disagree.

op.110

Quote from: Steve on June 11, 2007, 08:08:19 AM
Mutter's Brahms.......  :o

Not for me, mon vieux.

I bought her live recording of the Brahms with the New York Philharmonic (Masur). By far the worst purchase I've ever made. EVER.

op.110

After replying, I realize people have already mentioned her recording with Masur, but it's worth emphasizing that it's a piece of garbage.

BorisG

Quote from: MahlerTitan on June 11, 2007, 08:05:59 AM
no mention for Mutter/Karajan?

Not my favorite, but it's certainly up there. DG has a good coupling for it with Mendelssohn.

head-case

Quote from: hornteacher on June 11, 2007, 04:23:50 PM
.......in your opinion, (and you are entitled to it), but the people who awarded it a Grammy and made it a bestselling CD would tend to disagree.

Britney Spears has also won a grammy award and sold many many times more records.  I guess that makes Britney Spears even better.  The people the made Hahn a best selling artist and Grammy winner are the ones that stare at her cute little boobs on the record covers, again very similar to the case of Britney Spears.
>:D

Harry Collier

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Quote from: head-case on June 11, 2007, 09:49:25 PM
Britney Spears has also won a grammy award and sold many many times more records.  I guess that makes Britney Spears even better. 


I've never heard Britney in Brahms -- thought she was more a Prokofiev girl. Seriously, you make a good point. It is difficult to separate success due to extraordinary musical ability from success due to good ability plus a first-class publicity machine (plus, today, the essential possession of first-class boobs if you are a female violinist, pianist or singer).