Recordings that you enjoy: Beethoven Symphony #9

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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on April 21, 2013, 06:32:52 PM
I was going to say I have this one, but I don't.  The currently available set (avec chapeau) was recorded in 1999, with a totally different set of soloists (the most recognizable name among them being Rene Pape), so apparently he's recorded the Ninth (at least) twice with Staatskapelle B.   

Meanwhile,  a propos this thread,  I'm ordering this one in another tab of my browser even as I post here.
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We'll see how MTT does.

Yes, I have that other one too. I'm not sure I would jump out and say that the 8 year intervention there really improved his thoughts on the work. They were already very good!  Still, I will be listening to that one very soon, as it has been well over a year now.

Thanks for the tip on the MTT. I was thinking I should hear what  he has to say, but hadn't run across this disk yet. I have it listed now. :)

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Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on April 21, 2013, 06:32:52 PM

I can't help but think, "Whatever for?" Still, I suppose I ought to hear it at least once before forming an opinion about its musical merit.
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Quote from: DavidRoss on April 23, 2013, 10:38:24 AM
I can't help but think, "Whatever for?" Still, I suppose I ought to hear it at least once before forming an opinion about its musical merit.

Sort of my thought too. I would have liked to hear Blomstedt with that orchestra, but I don't guess he ever did it. Still, MTT might surprise me. :)

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kishnevi

Quote from: DavidRoss on April 23, 2013, 10:38:24 AM
I can't help but think, "Whatever for?" Still, I suppose I ought to hear it at least once before forming an opinion about its musical merit.

"whatever for?" 
Why,  so I could have at least one recording of the Ninth that Gurn doesn't have!
;D

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on April 23, 2013, 06:21:33 PM
"whatever for?" 
Why,  so I could have at least one recording of the Ninth that Gurn doesn't have!
;D

:D Enjoy your (temporary) victory. Mine is in the mail. ;)  But seriously, I'm delighted when someone points out a version that I don't already have if it isn't more than 50 years old. I wish I could find an Erich Kleiber, for example, without buying a whole new cycle that I don't really want. Oh well.... :)

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Karl Henning

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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: karlhenning on April 24, 2013, 04:30:50 AM
. . . never even conceived that it might be possible . . . .

He recorded one in the late '50's, just finding it is quite a challenge. Ones from 1947 are right out.... :)

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Hah!

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Opus106

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on April 24, 2013, 04:23:42 AM
I'm delighted when someone points out a version that I don't already have if it isn't more than 50 years old.

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I wish I could find an Erich Kleiber, for example, without buying a whole new cycle that I don't really want. Oh well.... :)

https://groups.google.com/d/topic/symphonyshare/udTJfengF3o/discussion [No plastic or paper included. Sorry.]

QuoteLudwig van Beethoven
Symphony No. 9 in D minor

Wilma Fodor de Bode (soprano)
Maria Matilde Siano (mezzosoprano)
Aurelio Alvarez (tenor)
Nicolas Fornella (bass)
OSSODRE Orchestra
SODRE Choir
Erich Kleiber

Montevideo
12th August, 1939

There's more Kleiber, father and son, where that came from.
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Navneeth

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Opus106 on April 24, 2013, 07:41:03 AM
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https://groups.google.com/d/topic/symphonyshare/udTJfengF3o/discussion [No plastic or paper included. Sorry.]


There's more Kleiber, father and son, where that came from.

Thanks for that link, although I finally have one on the way. Hard to find outside of the complete cycles. :-\

There is an Erich Kleiber on Archipel with the Vienna Philharmonic, released in ~2004. I can't determine the date of performance though. And Archipel....  :(  Doesn't matter as I can't find it anyway. However, I found a listing for one on Music & Arts; now, that's something to look for. Newer than 1939 wouldn't really hurt my feelings, Nav. I just can't seem to bring myself to enjoy some of that old stuff more than once, then it sits on the shelf forever after.  I'll go look there though, never know, maybe something hiding.... :)

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Opus106

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on April 24, 2013, 07:54:35 AM
There is an Erich Kleiber on Archipel with the Vienna Philharmonic, released in ~2004. I can't determine the date of performance though. And Archipel....  :(  Doesn't matter as I can't find it anyway. However, I found a listing for one on Music & Arts; now, that's something to look for. Newer than 1939 wouldn't really hurt my feelings, Nav. I just can't seem to bring myself to enjoy some of that old stuff more than once, then it sits on the shelf forever after.  I'll go look there though, never know, maybe something hiding.... :)

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http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/Archipel%2BRecords/ARPCD0077

This is from 1952, apparently. The disc is available at Presto for $8; but I understand that building a wormhole from Warwickshire to Nowhere, Texas would far outweigh the cost of the disc. ;D
Regards,
Navneeth

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Opus106 on April 24, 2013, 08:03:58 AM

http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/Archipel%2BRecords/ARPCD0077

This is from 1952, apparently. The disc is available at Presto for $8; but I understand that building a wormhole from Warwickshire to Nowhere, Texas would far outweigh the cost of the disc. ;D

:D   Yes, that's the one I saw. The appeal was also in the Vienna Philharmonic series that I've been working on.

Maybe I can find it stateside; I'll have a go at it, especially now you've given me a date to work with. :)

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DavidRoss

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Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on April 21, 2013, 06:32:52 PM

Quote from: smartassSFSfanI can't help but think, "Whatever for?" Still, I suppose I ought to hear it at least once before forming an opinion about its musical merit.
BTW, I listened to this via MOG and liked it quite a bit. Big, bold, powerful Beethoven, yet nuanced and detailed. Some will doubtless complain about MTT's gear changes, but I liked 'em. Few, however, could fail to appreciate the tightness of the band, the gorgeous winds, and the magnificent lower strings and vocals in the fourth movement. I will be interested to hear what Gurn & Jeff think of it.

Hmmm...although I need another LvB 9 like Gloria Steinem needs a bicycling fish, this one's getting another hearing soon, and if that goes well, then it will probably make its way into my shopping cart.

And it's good enough to convince me to give MTT/SFS's other LvB recordings a chance.
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Quote from: DavidRoss on April 24, 2013, 10:17:44 AM
BTW, I listened to this via MOG and liked it quite a bit. Big, bold, powerful Beethoven, yet nuanced and detailed. Some will doubtless complain about MTT's gear changes, but I liked 'em. Few, however, could fail to appreciate the tightness of the band, the gorgeous winds, and the magnificent lower strings and vocals in the fourth movement. I will be interested to hear what Gurn & Jeff think of it.

Hmmm...although I need another LvB 9 like Gloria Steinem needs a bicycling fish, this one's getting another hearing soon, and if that goes well, then it will probably make its way into my shopping cart.

And it's good enough to convince me to give MTT/SFS's other LvB recordings a chance.

Interesting, David; you liked it better than I expected you to, then. I hope that I do too. :)  Given that I have always had a soft spot for the SFS, having heard them several times in the 2 years I lived out there, I'm always surprised at how little of their recorded legacy that I own. Yet another reason to snap this up. :)

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Quote from: karlhenning on April 24, 2013, 10:16:03 AM
Nav, you're such an enabler ; )

Yes, and I really need one of those too....  0:)

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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on April 24, 2013, 10:24:48 AM

Quote from: DavidRoss on April 24, 2013, 10:17:44 AM
BTW, I listened to this via MOG and liked it quite a bit. Big, bold, powerful Beethoven, yet nuanced and detailed. Some will doubtless complain about MTT's gear changes, but I liked 'em. Few, however, could fail to appreciate the tightness of the band, the gorgeous winds, and the magnificent lower strings and vocals in the fourth movement. I will be interested to hear what Gurn & Jeff think of it.

Hmmm...although I need another LvB 9 like Gloria Steinem needs a bicycling fish, this one's getting another hearing soon, and if that goes well, then it will probably make its way into my shopping cart.

And it's good enough to convince me to give MTT/SFS's other LvB recordings a chance.

Interesting, David; you liked it better than I expected you to, then. I hope that I do too. :)  Given that I have always had a soft spot for the SFS, having heard them several times in the 2 years I lived out there, I'm always surprised at how little of their recorded legacy that I own. Yet another reason to snap this up. :)

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I wasn't really looking for another Op.125, you know . . . .
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Pat B

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on April 24, 2013, 04:23:42 AM
I'm delighted when someone points out a version that I don't already have if it isn't more than 50 years old.

Well, I already pointed out 2 (Stokowski and Bernstein '89 :) ). Here's one that might be more up your alley.

I stumbled upon a copy of Immerseel's first (1999 Sony) recording of the 9th. I have found very little information and no reviews for it. The soloists are Callataÿ, Kroese, Siebert, and Bästlein. Timings are in the same ballpark as his later Zig Zag recording (which I don't have).

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I guess it's easy to find in Germany but not very common elsewhere.

It arrived in today's mail. I'll post my thoughts after I listen to it, which might be next week.

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Pat B on April 25, 2013, 06:39:57 PM
Well, I already pointed out 2 (Stokowski and Bernstein '89 :) ). Here's one that might be more up your alley.

I stumbled upon a copy of Immerseel's first (1999 Sony) recording of the 9th. I have found very little information and no reviews for it. The soloists are Callataÿ, Kroese, Siebert, and Bästlein. Timings are in the same ballpark as his later Zig Zag recording (which I don't have).


I guess it's easy to find in Germany but not very common elsewhere.

It arrived in today's mail. I'll post my thoughts after I listen to it, which might be next week.

True, you did. Unfortunately, those are two that I really don't have an interest in. This one, however, which I never even heard of before (why is that, I wonder??) is something else again. Absolutely looking forward to your impressions, and will very likely be forming my own soon too. Thanks for that link!  :)

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