Which lost work would you most like discovered?

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toledobass

#20
May 29, 2007, 07:38:46 PM
How about the Haydn Double Bass concerto, of which only the first few measures exist.


Allan

val

#21
May 30, 2007, 12:24:28 AM
DUFAY: Requiem. Possibly the first Requiem ever composed. And lost.

and

the operas of MONTEVERDI.

Greta

#23
May 30, 2007, 01:47:01 AM
Yep, that's an easy one, definitely Sibelius' 8th.

The eternal question of did any of it survive is one that will haunt me until real proof is discovered either way. Every time I listen to his 7th, which is mindblowing -  I get that niggling thought of the copyist sitting in front of the 8th, going through it, page by page carefully notating each note...  :-\

This article is very interesting as to some possible clues to the sort of work it might have been:

Sibelius Eight: What Happened To It?

From the article -

"Towards the end of the 1940s, possibly in 1947, Nils-Eric Fougstedt the conductor paid a visit to Sibelius at his home, Ainola. He later reported having seen on the shelf there the 8th Symphony "with separate choral parts"."

Can you imagine?  :o

techniquest

#24
May 30, 2007, 03:17:44 AM
What a fascinating artcle - thanks for the link. Now I would definitely like to hear the 8th. And, of course the Mahler 'Dresden' symphonies; and Shostakovich's 16th.

looja

#25
May 30, 2007, 03:36:04 AM
I would like to discover some Chopins lost works...If I'm not mistaken, some of Chopin works were lost in a house fire many decades after Chopins death which belonged to a person related to Chopin.

karlhenning

#27
May 30, 2007, 04:45:06 AM
Quote from: Hector on May 30, 2007, 04:43:25 AM
Beethoven's 10th.

That's not a lost work;  it's a work he didn't get around to.

karlhenning

#28
May 30, 2007, 04:46:24 AM
Quote from: techniquest on May 30, 2007, 03:17:44 AM
. . . and Shostakovich's 16th.

Ditto.

Neither of these is at all the same matter as the Sibelius Eighth, which was actually completed, and actually destroyed.  Just clarifying.

AnthonyAthletic

#29
May 30, 2007, 04:48:22 AM
Has that Mahler violin concerto surfaced yet?  ;D  The violin concerto of a thousand?

There's probably a concerto or two inside the symphonies, thing is, you just can't hear em  ;)

"Two possibilities exist: Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying"      (Arthur C. Clarke)

karlhenning

#30
May 30, 2007, 04:51:37 AM
Quote from: AnthonyAthletic on May 30, 2007, 04:48:22 AM
The violin concerto of a thousand?

You fill me with A Nameless Fear, Tony!  ;D

AnthonyAthletic

#31
May 30, 2007, 04:53:53 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on May 30, 2007, 04:51:37 AM
You fill me with A Nameless Fear, Tony!  ;D

Is the Resurrection still "Lost" music to you Karl?  What are the chances of discovery anyday soon  ;)

"Two possibilities exist: Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying"      (Arthur C. Clarke)

Sergeant Rock

#32
May 30, 2007, 05:01:29 AM
Quote from: AnthonyAthletic on May 30, 2007, 04:48:22 AM
Has that Mahler violin concerto surfaced yet?  ;D  The violin concerto of a thousand?

Ah, yes, I forgot about that one. I've heard rumour it employed seven solo violins: can you imagine a lineup like this: Hahn, Chang, Jansen, Fischer, Batiashvili, Pogostkina and Mutter, all on stage, all in strapless gowns, playing for two hours! Wow...

Sarge

 
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

AnthonyAthletic

#33
May 30, 2007, 05:06:27 AM
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on May 30, 2007, 05:01:29 AM
Ah, yes, I forgot about that one. I've heard rumour it employed seven solo violins: can you imagine a lineup like this: Hahn, Chang, Jansen, Fischer, Batiashvili, Pogostkina and Mutter, all on stage, all in strapless gowns, playing for two hours! Wow...

Sarge


Count me in for a couple of tickets Sarge...a sight worth seeing  ;D

"Two possibilities exist: Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying"      (Arthur C. Clarke)

Sergeant Rock

#34
May 30, 2007, 05:08:08 AM
Quote from: AnthonyAthletic on May 30, 2007, 04:53:53 AM
Is the Resurrection still "Lost" music to you Karl?

I think Karl still has a theological problem with it: any work that postulates a resurrection without judgment is heresy and cannot be countenanced ;D

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

AnthonyAthletic

#35
May 30, 2007, 05:10:05 AM
I think, sometime in the near future Karl will be hearing Klemperer's live Bavarian Resurrection and reporting to us some good news  ;)

"Two possibilities exist: Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying"      (Arthur C. Clarke)

Sergeant Rock

#36
May 30, 2007, 05:15:18 AM
Quote from: AnthonyAthletic on May 30, 2007, 05:10:05 AM
I think, sometime in the near future Karl will be hearing Klemperer's live Bavarian Resurrection and reporting to us some good news  ;)

If that doesn't do it, nothing will, Tony. As I've said several times in the past, we Mahlerites continue to pray for Karl in the hope that someday he will finally see the light and be guided to musical salvation.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

AnthonyAthletic

#38
May 30, 2007, 05:26:27 AM Last Edit: May 30, 2007, 05:28:22 AM by AnthonyAthletic
Will keep the vigil for you Karl, whilst you work on the Resurrection Symphony for the 21st Century  :D

Just spin track 4, listen to Urlicht/DJB....the cd is worth the price for that alone!!

And if you get time, could you listen to it and listen to Kaplan's DG recording and let me know what the 100 or so Kaplan amendments were  ;D  I spotted the first one, no longer do the opening strings tremble....anyone up for the other 99-ish  ;)

"Two possibilities exist: Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying"      (Arthur C. Clarke)
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