Which lost work would you most like discovered?

Started by Ten thumbs, May 29, 2007, 12:54:42 PM

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Well maybe my choice is an odd one but as you all know i am a fan of Fanny Mendelssohn, so i would like her Easter Sonata to be found. We know she played it to a private audience and a search on Google confirms the occasion when Felix played the first movement in public but the wherabouts of the manuscript is currently unknown. I do have real hopes as there are rumours that it is in a private collection somewhere. Incidentally, I see a link here with Biber. He seems to be the only other composer to have used that title. 
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Easy: whatever remains of the finale of Bruckner's 9th. Harnoncourt claims that there was a lot more material at Bruckner's death but that several pages were kept as mementos by relatives and friends and are presumed lost, though some have resurfaced in recent years and have formed the basis of more recent "completion" versions.

The new erato

Any of the lost operas of Monteverdi. Or Schutz' opera Adriadne. Or Sibelius 8rh symphony. If you pardon me I can' say that the prospect of a lost sonata by Fanny Mendelssohn makes me tremble in anticipation, however nice it may have been.

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The Chant Funebre Stravinsky wrote at the death of Rimsky-Korsakov. Stravinsky considered it his best piece by that time.

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Quote from: erato on May 29, 2007, 01:07:41 PM
If you pardon me I can' say that the prospect of a lost sonata by Fanny Mendelssohn makes me tremble in anticipation, however nice it may have been.

Do you mean, the prospect of losing a Fanny sonata?

I'm all for it!

Quote from: Larry Rinkel on May 29, 2007, 01:10:55 PM
The Chant Funebre Stravinsky wrote at the death of Rimsky-Korsakov. Stravinsky considered it his best piece by that time.

I'll sign on here!

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Mark

Litolff's First Concerto Symphonique ... destroyed by fire, IIRC. :(

Maciek

It seems to me there are too many. I just can't make myself pick one... :-\ ::) 0:)

Gurn Blanston

Mozart's Cello Concerto in F (all lost except the 8 bar incipit in the B & H catalog from 1770 or so).

The 3 Bassoon Concertos that Mozart composed for some obscure Count or other. Not even an incipit left... :'(

Also, wouldn't mind to have the trumpet concerto he wrote in Italy, even though it was very early on (around K 46).

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This is very easy to answer: the four "Dresden" symphonies of Gustav Mahler. The manuscripts belonged to Mahler's friend the Baroness von Weber and were kept in her library in her house in Dresden. There is anecdotal evidence that Mengelberg saw them and even spent an afternoon playing through them on the piano. They may have included works Mahler composed while at the conservatory: Symphony (No.1), Symphony (No.2) in A minor, and the Nordische Symphonie.

Well, we know what happened to Dresden near the end of the war. What remained of the library was sent to Berlin but so far there is no trace of the Mahler manuscripts.

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Chaszz

Lost concertos by Bach, of which there are supposed to be several.

not edward

How about two very different French symphonies: Boulez's for piano and orchestra (destroyed by accident by a cleaning lady) and Alkan's symphony for orchestra (as opposed to for the one for solo piano)?
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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on May 29, 2007, 04:26:35 PM
Mozart's Cello Concerto in F (all lost except the 8 bar incipit in the B & H catalog from 1770 or so).

The 3 Bassoon Concertos that Mozart composed for some obscure Count or other. Not even an incipit left... :'(

Also, wouldn't mind to have the trumpet concerto he wrote in Italy, even though it was very early on (around K 46).

8)

Good ones, Gurn!

Also, the 20 string quartets that Brahms tossed into his beloved furnace .........

karlhenning

Quote from: MrOsa on May 29, 2007, 04:02:16 PM
It seems to me there are too many. I just can't make myself pick one... :-\ ::) 0:)
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on May 29, 2007, 04:26:35 PM
Mozart's Cello Concerto in F (all lost except the 8 bar incipit in the B & H catalog from 1770 or so).

The 3 Bassoon Concertos that Mozart composed for some obscure Count or other. Not even an incipit left... :'(

Also, wouldn't mind to have the trumpet concerto he wrote in Italy, even though it was very early on (around K 46).

8)

Splendid, and entirely characteristic of each of you!  8)

karlhenning

I'd sort of like to hear the Shostakovich Twelfth Symphony, as he had written it before he apparently decided at the eleventh hour that it wouldn't do, and he re-wrote it in compositional haste unusual even for him.

not edward

Quote from: karlhenning on May 29, 2007, 05:49:02 PM
I'd sort of like to hear the Shostakovich Twelfth Symphony, as he had written it before he apparently decided at the eleventh hour that it wouldn't do, and he re-wrote it in compositional haste unusual even for him.
The rewrite's pretty awful, really--certainly my least favourite of the 15 by some way.

I keep putting it on every couple of years in an attempt to find some redeeming features, but I can't help thinking only a totally over-the-top performance can make it work at all.
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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on May 29, 2007, 04:26:35 PM
Also, wouldn't mind to have the trumpet concerto he wrote in Italy, even though it was very early on (around K 46).

Wouldn't that have been something had Mozart revisited the trumpet concerto later in life!




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karlhenning

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on May 29, 2007, 04:26:35 PM
Also, wouldn't mind to have the trumpet concerto he wrote in Italy, even though it was very early on (around K 46).

8)

Oh, but it was rediscovered, and Shostakovich reworked it for trombone in the first movement of his Ninth Symphony8)