Which lost work would you most like discovered?

Started by Ten thumbs, May 29, 2007, 12:54:42 PM

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Lilas Pastia

Quote from: edward on May 29, 2007, 05:14:46 PM
How about two very different French symphonies: Boulez's for piano and orchestra (destroyed by accident by a cleaning lady) and Alkan's symphony for orchestra (as opposed to for the one for solo piano)?

I read in an old Paris Match that the cleaning lady was awarded the Légion d'Honneur.
There's a picture of an obviously moved President Giscard d'Estaing pinning the rosette on her ample bosom.


karlhenning

Quote from: Lilas Pastia on May 30, 2007, 06:41:27 AM
I read in an old Paris Match that the cleaning lady was awarded the Légion d'Honneur.
There's a picture of an obviously moved President Giscard d'Estaing pinning the rosette on her ample bosom.

:-)

Nunc Dimittis

Symphonies 1 & 2 by Peter Mennin.  He withdrew them.  I do not know if the scores still exist or were destroyed.  

Also, Symphony no. 5 by Villa-Lobos.  Only known score was lost.  V-L was not at his most inspired in the symphonies but I would like to hear it just once.  
"[Er] lernte Neues auf jedem Schritt seines Weges, denn die Welt war verwandelt, und sein Herz war bezaubert." - Hesse

Haffner

I'd be thrilled to hear Wagner's arrangement/conducting of Don Giovanni.

techniquest

Another lost work: "Prometheus Unbound" for chorus and orchestra by Havergal Brian.

canninator

Probably been mentioned already but the two obvious that come to mind are the Finale of Bruckner's 9th and anything of Sibelius' 8th.

schweitzeralan

Quote from: Ten thumbs on May 29, 2007, 12:54:42 PM
Well maybe my choice is an odd one but as you all know i am a fan of Fanny Mendelssohn, so i would like her Easter Sonata to be found. We know she played it to a private audience and a search on Google confirms the occasion when Felix played the first movement in public but the wherabouts of the manuscript is currently unknown. I do have real hopes as there are rumours that it is in a private collection somewhere. Incidentally, I see a link here with Biber. He seems to be the only other composer to have used that title. 
Now over to you:

Sibelius' 8th Symphony.  Did many of his contemporaries, minus his admirers, believe Sibelius was too conservative? Why did he burn his score?

ChamberNut

Everything that Brahms got rid of since he thought they were not up to his standards.  Mr. Brahms, let us be the judge of that dammit!  ;D

Sorin Eushayson

Seriously, no one here has mentioned Mozart's lost cello concerto?  His lost trumpet concerto?  The 'Paris' sinfonia concertante he wrote so proudly to his father about???  Discoveries of those would really get the music community excited, not to mention yours truly!  ;D

Brian

Quote from: Sorin Eushayson on August 15, 2009, 07:17:51 PM
Seriously, no one here has mentioned Mozart's lost cello concerto?  His lost trumpet concerto?
Only on, I don't know, the first page.

ChamberNut

In all seriousness, I cannot rest until they find that one lost Cantata for Johann Sebastian Bach and Georg Philipp Telemann.

greg

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on May 29, 2007, 04:36:56 PM
This is very easy to answer: the four "Dresden" symphonies of Gustav Mahler. The manuscripts belonged to Mahler's friend the Baroness von Weber and were kept in her library in her house in Dresden. There is anecdotal evidence that Mengelberg saw them and even spent an afternoon playing through them on the piano. They may have included works Mahler composed while at the conservatory: Symphony (No.1), Symphony (No.2) in A minor, and the Nordische Symphonie.

Well, we know what happened to Dresden near the end of the war. What remained of the library was sent to Berlin but so far there is no trace of the Mahler manuscripts.

Sarge
That'd be nice.

prémont

#52
Certainly the last page of the unfinished Fugue a 3 soggetti (Contrapunctus 14) from the Art of Fugue - if it ever existed.
Reality trumps our fantasy far beyond imagination.

DFO

Karl Goldmark's second v.c. Never published as far as I know :(

Air

"Summit or death, either way, I win." ~ Robert Schumann

Wanderer

Quote from: edward on May 29, 2007, 05:14:46 PM
Alkan's symphony for orchestra (as opposed to for the one for solo piano)

Quote from: Kullervo on May 29, 2007, 05:17:19 PM
Sibelius's 8th

These two for starters.

mahler10th



Cez

#58
This one's SUPER easy (for me, anyway):
(1) the symphonies of Muzio Clementi, most of which were destroyed by his housekeeper (either burned for kindling or used as butcher paper; I can't recall exactly; anyway her great granddaughter worked for Boulez :) ).  The Clementi tatters that escaped destruction are FANTASTIC.  Haydn on steroids.
(2) Clementi's lost piano concerti, the 8th of Moscheles, Litolff's 1st
(3) Mendelssohn's lost cello concerto
(4) The bunches of "lost" works from Mozart's Paris years:  the 4-wind sinfonia concertante, one or two oboe concerti, the second Paris symphony (jury's out on whether he really wrote the oboe concerti and the symphony, or if he was just lying to Pops in his letters to get him off his back -- some say this does it/doesn't it exist question even applies to the concertante itself)
(5) Any lost symphonic fragments of Schubert (especially the final movements of the Unfinished), Schumann, Rott.
(6) Sullivan's cello concerto (burned, but sort of reconstructed by Mackerras)

But if I could only have *one*:  The Clementi symphonies.

(and not lost, but left unfinished: Mozart's double concerto for piano/violin (K315f), and his sinfonia concertante for violin/viola/cello (K320e).  Magnificent torsos, both.)

monafam

I'd like to know if Hovhaness really destroyed hundreds of his earlier works and what those were.  If the claims are true, I believe they were more avant-garde than his later production....

If a composer decides to destroy his own work -- is it really "lost?"