Make a Jazz Noise Here

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NJ Joe

I don't own this, but I'd go for the whole enchilada.  You know right off that no two performances of any given song will sound alike.  This is a great band, and hearing these performances might push you closer toward Miles rabidity.  And the price is right.
"Music can inspire love, religious ecstasy, cathartic release, social bonding, and a glimpse of another dimension. A sense that there is another time, another space and another, better universe."
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San Antone

Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on March 25, 2014, 02:26:56 PM
Opinions please.

The full set is four CDs and a DVD, filled with multiple performances of the same songs.
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The single disc is one performance each of the songs, presumably what the producers thought was the best performance of each song,  and of course no DVD.
http://www.amazon.com/JAZZ-CD-Miles-Davis-Quintet/dp/B00BXDPGPC/ref=sr_1_28?ie=UTF8&qid=1395785418&sr=8-28&keywords=Miles+Davis+Quintet+Live+in+Europe
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I can get the single CD version for about $15, or the full set for about $29.  (The listing for the single CD doesn't actually contain the ASIN number, so I've given the complete URL in case the usual ASIN link does not work.)

While I like Miles, I'm not a rabid fan. 

Would I find the extra performances on the full set to be worth the price difference? At the moment the DVD is exercising gravitational pull towards the full set.

I consider it mandatory for any fan of the second great quintet.  It is a good compliment to the boxset of their complete sessions.

toledobass

I would get the whole thing.  It is easily worth it for the music alone and the DVD is a VERY nice bonus with 2 concerts to view.  The level of music on this so fine, you will want to have it all. 


Tom 1960

I own the Miles set and it was an easy purchase since I already qualify as a rabid fan. I must own close to 30 or more recordings at last check.  >:D

Archaic Torso of Apollo

Quote from: escher on February 01, 2014, 06:30:31 AM
I'm not a great fan of fusion, but Pools is a real classic of the genre. Not just for the solos, but the tune itself composed by Don Grolnick is worth of Wayne Shorter. Sophisticated, original and catchy at the same time. One of the few standards written in the eighties.

Hmm, been listening to this lately (the whole Steps Ahead first album actually) and I found a comment somewhere that sums up my reaction: "It is the kind of song that most people I know find not very interesting at first, but after listening to it 10 times, they just can't stop listening." It really does pull you in, and the Brecker solos are amazingly intense for such "cool" music. The whole album is good, and I love the "Trio" at the end; seems to be some modern classical influence there.
formerly VELIMIR (before that, Spitvalve)

"Who knows not strict counterpoint, lives and dies an ignoramus" - CPE Bach

Octave

Can anyone recommend some ~recent (maybe post 2000) jazz that I might like if I am looking for something with the kind of energy that Tim Berne's Bloodcount band (and some of his other groups, longrunning or ad hoc) had in the ~1990s?  I especially loved those three PARIS CONCERT records on Winter & Winter, with structures and freejazzy solos intermingling kind of in the spirit of 1960s live Mingus, albeit with more vamps.  (I don't need the vamps.)  I guess Tim Berne has remained quite busy since 2000, but I've heard a number of those records...I'm looking for other voices.  Emphasis on composition as well as playing, preferably not just head/blow/head, if possible.

I'm familiar with Mats Gustafsson's The Thing and other groups, also Barry Guy's London Jazz Composers Orchestra (and whatever that somewhat smaller band was that succeeded it); those are good points of reference, too.
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escher

Quote from: Velimir on March 27, 2014, 07:05:25 PM
Hmm, been listening to this lately (the whole Steps Ahead first album actually) and I found a comment somewhere that sums up my reaction: "It is the kind of song that most people I know find not very interesting at first, but after listening to it 10 times, they just can't stop listening."

It was exactly my reaction too. Very subtle piece.

torut

Quote from: Octave on March 28, 2014, 05:16:10 AM
Can anyone recommend some ~recent (maybe post 2000) jazz that I might like if I am looking for something with the kind of energy that Tim Berne's Bloodcount band (and some of his other groups, longrunning or ad hoc) had in the ~1990s?  I especially loved those three PARIS CONCERT records on Winter & Winter, with structures and freejazzy solos intermingling kind of in the spirit of 1960s live Mingus, albeit with more vamps.  (I don't need the vamps.)  I guess Tim Berne has remained quite busy since 2000, but I've heard a number of those records...I'm looking for other voices.  Emphasis on composition as well as playing, preferably not just head/blow/head, if possible.

I'm familiar with Mats Gustafsson's The Thing and other groups, also Barry Guy's London Jazz Composers Orchestra (and whatever that somewhat smaller band was that succeeded it); those are good points of reference, too.
You may already know it, but this is really powerful and wild. The tunes are composed but with very free improvisations. There are vamps as usual in Vandermark's music.

Vandermark 5 Special Edition - The Horse Jumps and the Ship is Gone (2010)
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Ken Vandermark - tenor saxophone & Bb clarinet
Tim Daisy - drums
Kent Kessler - bass
Fred Lonberg-Holm - cello
Dave Rempis - alto & baritone saxophone
Magnus Broo - trumpet
Havard Wiik - piano

Archaic Torso of Apollo

Quote from: toledobass on January 24, 2014, 12:58:27 PM
I damn near bought vinyl copies of 80/81 and Bright Size Life last night!

I'm listening to 80/81 right now and seriously digging it. I haven't heard much of Metheny - is this characteristic of him?
formerly VELIMIR (before that, Spitvalve)

"Who knows not strict counterpoint, lives and dies an ignoramus" - CPE Bach

Archaic Torso of Apollo

Quote from: sanantonio on February 11, 2014, 06:30:30 AM
Dave Holland is great.   


He sure is! Conference of the Birds is my favorite post-1970 jazz album (not that I've heard that much).
formerly VELIMIR (before that, Spitvalve)

"Who knows not strict counterpoint, lives and dies an ignoramus" - CPE Bach

Artem

Solid recording. My first Art Ensemble of Chicago cd.

torut

I like Doom Jazz.

Bohren & Der Club Of Gore - Kleinerfinger (2005)
https://www.youtube.com/v/PcGV3whXtTs

toledobass

Quote from: Velimir on March 31, 2014, 07:50:42 AM
I'm listening to 80/81 right now and seriously digging it. I haven't heard much of Metheny - is this characteristic of him?

I'm not really the one to ask here.  I have liked everything I've heard by him, but it is still only a small percentage of his output, and most of it being from this century. What I do notice is there is an individuality of expression that is him, but every album is very different from the next. 

Hopefully someone with a better grasp of his catalog and career can help us out.

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Mirror Image

Quote from: Velimir on March 31, 2014, 07:50:42 AM
I'm listening to 80/81 right now and seriously digging it. I haven't heard much of Metheny - is this characteristic of him?

I can't I'm fond of 80/81 for the simple fact that I don't care for Michael Brecker's saxophone playing and have never thought Metheny did well with horn players of any kind. His Unity Band albums weren't my cup of tea at all, but I do feel that Metheny's best work seems to be behind him. Are you familiar with the Pat Metheny Group? I think this is where Metheny was at his best, especially when he had Lyle Mays co-writing, arranging, and playing piano and keyboards. I think when Mays left the PMG, a piece of Metheny went with him. All in my opinion of course.

This said, my favorite PMG albums are Offramp, Still Life (Talking), and Imaginary Day.

Ken B

Quote from: Mirror Image on April 03, 2014, 08:16:21 PM
I can't I'm fond of 80/81 for the simple fact that I don't care for Michael Brecker's saxophone playing and have never thought Metheny did well with horn players of any kind. His Unity Band albums weren't my cup of tea at all, but I do feel that Metheny's best work seems to be behind him. Are you familiar with the Pat Metheny Group? I think this is where Metheny was at his best, especially when he had Lyle Mays co-writing, arranging, and playing piano and keyboards. I think when Mays left the PMG, a piece of Metheny went with him. All in my opinion of course.

This said, my favorite PMG albums are Offramp, Still Life (Talking), and Imaginary Day.
Pat Metheny http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=plL2VDAoThU

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Archaic Torso of Apollo

Quote from: Mirror Image on April 03, 2014, 08:16:21 PM
I can't I'm fond of 80/81 for the simple fact that I don't care for Michael Brecker's saxophone playing and have never thought Metheny did well with horn players of any kind. [...]
This said, my favorite PMG albums are Offramp, Still Life (Talking), and Imaginary Day.

I like Brecker's playing (indeed everyone's on that album), so no problem for me. But I'll look into your recommendations.
formerly VELIMIR (before that, Spitvalve)

"Who knows not strict counterpoint, lives and dies an ignoramus" - CPE Bach

San Antone

I was not a huge fan of the Metheny group but have enjoyed some of his recordings with others or solo.  I liked Song X with Ornette Coleman and enjoyed this

The Orchestrion Project

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Quote from: sanantonio on April 04, 2014, 02:09:22 PM
I was not a huge fan of the Metheny group but have enjoyed some of his recordings with others or solo.  I liked Song X with Ornette Coleman and enjoyed this

The Orchestrion Project

wow, very cool.  Had lost touch w metheny after The Way Up

Artem

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Artem

This is a great CD. Burrell is backed by a chamber orchestra, but it doesn't become too lush sounding.

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