Malipiero's mausoleum

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snyprrr

Quote from: karlhenning on April 11, 2014, 10:20:56 AM
Gorm, do I have the Fifth Symphony? . . .

I thought you had the 5/6/8/11 disc. Anyhow, if you didn't have ANY of the Symphonies, get the one with 7 and that one with 5/6/8/11. That leaves 1-4, which can most certainly be sampled at a later, non-essential, date.

Frankly, I've been listening a LOT to that set of PCs. The fast movements go by pretty quick, leaving this idyllic slow movement to savour. This set reminds me a bit of Chailly's Hindemith set, always dipping in to something different!

Karl Henning

Quote from: snyprrr on April 12, 2014, 09:03:07 AM
Frankly, I've been listening a LOT to that set of PCs. The fast movements go by pretty quick, leaving this idyllic slow movement to savour. This set reminds me a bit of Chailly's Hindemith set, always dipping in to something different!

An excellent rec, thanks!  I enjoy that two-fer thoroughly.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Dude, you called it:  each and every one of those slow movements is a gem. One is enraged that the composer of such exquisite beauty is so broadly neglected!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: snyprrr on April 12, 2014, 09:03:07 AM
I thought you had the 5/6/8/11 disc. Anyhow, if you didn't have ANY of the Symphonies, get the one with 7 and that one with 5/6/8/11. That leaves 1-4, which can most certainly be sampled at a later, non-essential, date.

Indeed, I do. Re-listening to the Fifth, now.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

snyprrr

Quote from: karlhenning on June 06, 2014, 10:39:55 AM
Dude, you called it:  each and every one of those slow movements is a gem. One is enraged that the composer of such exquisite beauty is so broadly neglected!

limpid... wan moonlight... Mozatean...I've never heard any such spare beauty as there... I picture parties at a castle on the river at night... ahhh...

Quote from: karlhenning on June 06, 2014, 11:07:27 AM
Indeed, I do. Re-listening to the Fifth, now.

It might have been nice to have that 5th on the PC set- but it's such a nice, angular work and the MarcoPolo sound gives it that gothic '60s quality. Tell me what you like out of 8 (a bit more brooding) and 11 (capricious). 11's got some fruity winds and is a perfectly craggy work- do you think Havergal fans would enjoy this?

I might be ready for a little SQ action,... they're so summery... and it IS! $:)

snyprrr

Quote from: karlhenning on June 06, 2014, 10:39:55 AM
Dude, you called it:  each and every one of those slow movements is a gem. One is enraged that the composer of such exquisite beauty is so broadly neglected!

I haaave to ask you about the Kabalevsky PC 1-4: do you know them? I'm kind of getting the same 'thing' as in the GFM 1-6; not as wonderful perhaps, but in their own way exuding, to me, the same atmosphere- do ya do ya?? huh huh??

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

snyprrr

Quote from: karlhenning on April 11, 2014, 10:20:56 AM
Gorm, do I have the Fifth Symphony? . . .

Took 5/6/8/11 with me yesterday. I just love GFM's Late Symphonies, they are so craggy, blurting out fanfares, only to fold in on itself in melancolie,... I suppose Brian fans take note...

The Marco Polo (now on Naxos) recording really is pretty good, passing for at least a CPO.


Malipiero is so friendly! Even in his cantankerous way,The Joy is unmistakable. Things pop and sputter,... he almost reminds me of 'Chitty Chitty Bang Bang'...


Symphony No.5, 'In eco', features 2 Pianos, and is probably GFM's most angular Symphony, though, the contours are as in other GFM. The pianos sound a lot like glittering fountains, with both cascading over each other. It's certainly muuuch more appealing than the 'Dialoghi' Concerto for 2 Pianos, or the other one for 2 Pianos alone.- but, those are later works. No.5 comes from the '40s, and is much more pleasant.



Karl Henning

Aye, it is time for more Malipiero Mania!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

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Quote from: karlhenning on November 21, 2014, 06:59:05 AM
Aye, it is time for more Malipiero Mania!

Yes! It's been awhile since I've listened to any of his music myself. Have you or any one else bought that new recording on Naxos?

Edit: Oh well, I just did. :) I'll let you guys know how it is here.

Karl Henning

Thanks for the alert!  Once Santa leaves the traditional Amazon gift card in my stocking . . . .

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Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Mirror Image

Quote from: karlhenning on November 21, 2014, 08:07:33 AM
Thanks for the alert!  Once Santa leaves the traditional Amazon gift card in my stocking . . . .

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You're welcome. I listened to some of this recording via Naxos Music Library, sounded quite nice.

snyprrr

Piano Concertos 2-3 right now... boy!, this was good stuff when we were frothing earlier, but right now it's really really really good stuff!! Just Perfect Music...  CinemaScope all the waaay!!

Karl Henning

I think the pf cti are my favorites by Gianni Malipiero . . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

snyprrr

Quote from: karlhenning on November 22, 2014, 09:20:46 AM
I think the pf cti are my favorites by Gianni Malipiero . . . .

Check out the Violin Concerto on YT. It's rawer- GFM is a little different with string textures.

Klaze

I've got 2 discs;

A disc with chamber music: the Sonata a tre and other works on BMG Ricordi.

--> Like it a lot!

Then i had another disc with orchestral works on Naxos: Tre Commedie/Stradivarius/Cimmarosiana/Gabrieliana

--> This I thought was incredibly uninspired, to the extent that I thought it must be another composer.

Well, maybe I should investigate the Piano Concertos or Symphonies.

snyprrr

Quote from: Klaze on November 22, 2014, 11:37:19 PM
I've got 2 discs;

A disc with chamber music: the Sonata a tre and other works on BMG Ricordi.

--> Like it a lot!

Then i had another disc with orchestral works on Naxos: Tre Commedie/Stradivarius/Cimmarosiana/Gabrieliana

--> This I thought was incredibly uninspired, to the extent that I thought it must be another composer.

Well, maybe I should investigate the Piano Concertos or Symphonies.

I also have the Ricordi, yes, all around very nice; the Naxos has only trifles, yes it's not for us.

i would definiyely suggest the PCs, or the String Quartets on Dynamic (only that one), or the Naxos with Symphony No.7. I like Symphony No.6 on Denon (maybe his sunniest work).

Moonfish

Malipiero: Cello Concerto          Mainardi/RCO/van Beinum        1/41  [live]

My first listen ever to Malipiero's music and I was quite impressed with his cello concerto. The first two movements were quite alluring and built a soundscape I was drawn to. In contrast I was not too thrilled with the third movement that had more of a 20th century chaotic flavor even though it redeemed itself as it progressed.  Is the cello concerto a "typical" soundscape for Malipiero's works or can one expect a wide variety of tonal worlds?  Regardless, the cello concerto was definitely a positive experience for me. So are the new Naxos releases by La Vecchia worthwhile exploring?



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Anna Lappé

snyprrr

Quote from: Moonfish on April 29, 2015, 04:10:03 PM
Malipiero: Cello Concerto          Mainardi/RCO/van Beinum        1/41  [live]

My first listen ever to Malipiero's music and I was quite impressed with his cello concerto. The first two movements were quite alluring and built a soundscape I was drawn to. In contrast I was not too thrilled with the third movement that had more of a 20th century chaotic flavor even though it redeemed itself as it progressed.  Is the cello concerto a "typical" soundscape for Malipiero's works or can one expect a wide variety of tonal worlds?  Regardless, the cello concerto was definitely a positive experience for me. So are the new Naxos releases by La Vecchia worthwhile exploring?





Well, the CC is actually a very minor piece, but, yes, GFM has a spiky, quirky, charming quality that runs through all his developments.

BUT--- YOU MUUUUST---- you must get the set of Piano Concerti that we have been raving about on this Thread. And, try either the disc with Symphony 7 (Naxos/Marco Polo) or 3/4,... to start with.

The Violin Concerto, also, you WILL like a lot! ;)



ALSO- the String Quartets on DYNAMIC- don't get the one on ASV, MUST be Dynamic version.




THEN, you can go on to the Late Symphonies which are a craggy as can be- Havergal? I am building up a Honegger-Malipiero bridge that is quite compelling.

Moonfish

Quote from: snyprrr on May 04, 2015, 07:03:33 AM
Well, the CC is actually a very minor piece, but, yes, GFM has a spiky, quirky, charming quality that runs through all his developments.

BUT--- YOU MUUUUST---- you must get the set of Piano Concerti that we have been raving about on this Thread. And, try either the disc with Symphony 7 (Naxos/Marco Polo) or 3/4,... to start with.

The Violin Concerto, also, you WILL like a lot! ;)



ALSO- the String Quartets on DYNAMIC- don't get the one on ASV, MUST be Dynamic version.




THEN, you can go on to the Late Symphonies which are a craggy as can be- Havergal? I am building up a Honegger-Malipiero bridge that is quite compelling.

The CPO release of the PCs???
I really did like the cello concerto quite a bit. It doesn't seem like it has been recorded for quite a while?
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