Erik Satie

San Antone · April 24, 2025, 03:33:52 AM

Quote from: AnotherSpin on April 23, 2025, 11:09:39 PMThe Abramović Method for Music, which was used during Igor Levit's 2015 Goldberg Variations concert, is Marina Abramović's attempt to turn classical music listening into something truly special — a ritual of silence and sensory isolation meant to clear the mind and bring the audience into full presence. The idea is that by entering a meditative state beforehand, listeners can connect more deeply with the music.

That's all well and good but I have no desire to become a part of one of her conceptual art installations. I often meditate, for 15-20 minutes. And I also listen to music - not at the same time.

Mandryka · April 24, 2025, 12:14:28 PM

Honestly, I think the idea that you can prepare a bunch of greenhorns for a meditation by asking them to sit silently in a hall for half an hour is nonsense. At the very least, they need to guide them through a systematic relaxation of their bodies. The idea that they will be able to focus in a meditative state on music for more than a few minutes is equally nonsense. Did she give them instructions about what to do when their mind wonders, or when they get cramp?

It's an experience machine, art as experience machine., like a roller coaster or a ghost train.

AnotherSpin · April 24, 2025, 12:57:10 PM

Quote from: Mandryka on April 24, 2025, 12:14:28 PMHonestly, I think the idea that you can prepare a bunch of greenhorns for a meditation by asking them to sit silently in a hall for half an hour is nonsense. At the very least, they need to guide them through a systematic relaxation of their bodies. The idea that they will be able to focus in a meditative state on music for more than a few minutes is equally nonsense. Did she give them instructions about what to do when their mind wonders, or when they get cramp?

It's an experience machine, art as experience machine., like a roller coaster or a ghost train.

Yes, that's true — meditation is a practice one has to learn, and it may not work right away.

At the same time, I'm not quite sure what exactly Abramović was offering in her method. Perhaps she had a unique ability to transmit, to truly convey what she intended to those around her.

In a completely different context, I've witnessed similar things myself, so I know it's indeed possible.

Mister Sharpe · June 26, 2025, 02:21:25 PM

Some incredible, spreadable news re: Eric Satie - NEW WORKS by that eccentric, loveable, laudable master!! To be released tomorrow on Erato, marking the centenary of his death, 27 newly discovered short works of his played by Alexandre Tharaud. Japanese composer Sato Matsui and British musicologist and composer James Nye spent months digging into the archives of the Bibliothèque nationale and other institutions to carefully reconstruct Satie's neat but tiny, faded pencil scrawl in notebooks he compiled in his Montmartre bistro days. Don't know about you, but I'm ordering a copy!

Mandryka · June 27, 2025, 12:35:31 AM

Jean-Paul Fouchécourt on marvellous form in Socrate here.

Mister Sharpe · June 27, 2025, 05:53:05 AM

Quote from: Mandryka on June 27, 2025, 12:35:31 AM

Jean-Paul Fouchécourt on marvellous form in Socrate here.

Oh, I need to hear that. Love Socrate, possibly, indeed likely, the most moving musical experience of all my days...

Mister Sharpe · July 02, 2025, 06:19:41 AM

No revelation but lots of information re: Satie in an article from yesterday's NY Times, July 1, 2025, "Satie's Music Will Always Be Popular. But Will We Ever Understand It?" by Joshua Barone.

Mandryka · July 02, 2025, 10:01:18 AM

Quote from: Mister Sharpe on July 02, 2025, 06:19:41 AMNo revelation but lots of information re: Satie in an article from yesterday's NY Times, July 1, 2025, "Satie's Music Will Always Be Popular. But Will We Ever Understand It?" by Joshua Barone.

Can you get this in the States? Katheryn Stott on Sports et Divertissements. She thought that Queffelec's recording was specially good. She's right about that I think.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0lm7qyw

Mister Sharpe · July 02, 2025, 11:23:18 AM

Quote from: Mandryka on July 02, 2025, 10:01:18 AMCan you get this in the States? Katheryn Stott on Sports et Divertissements. She thought tat Queffelc's recording was specially good. She's right about that I think.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0lm7qyw

Thanks, Mandryka, I listen to BBC3 often and have heard other record reviews. For some reason that I'll need to investigate, I can't get this one. Still, re: Anne Queffélec's talents I need no convincing. I bought this when it came out which happened to coincide with my really rabid Satie phase! (different from my regular rabid Satie phase which is ongoing and permanent).

milk · July 02, 2025, 02:31:53 PM

Maybe having kids has made my brain soft but I like these imaginings of Satie w/harpsichord and bells. I think there's so much one can do with the genius of Satie.

Florestan · July 03, 2025, 08:19:44 AM

This is one of the best Satie recordings ever:

especially for Juliette's performance of the songs: truly cabaret-style voice and performance. Highly recommended.

This is very good as well:

Mandryka · July 03, 2025, 08:57:01 AM

Quote from: Florestan on July 03, 2025, 08:19:44 AMThis is one of the best Satie recordings ever:

especially for Juliette's performance of the songs: truly cabaret-style voice and performance. Highly recommended.

This is very good as well:

If you want cabaret style, without a doubt the Satie piano to hear is Jean Joel Barbier.

Florestan · July 03, 2025, 08:59:40 AM

Quote from: Mandryka on July 03, 2025, 08:57:01 AMIf you want cabaret style, without a doubt the Satie piano to hear is Jean Joel Barbier.

Will investigate, thanks.